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any to suggest?

i watched Sex and Lucia (genre: drama/romace) tonight and found myself wondering why i was watching it in parts, but very happy that i stuck it out...subtitles and all.

Plot Outline: Various lives converge on an isolated island, all connected by an author
whose novel has become inextricably entwined with his own life.

the story is very good...conflicted, twists, turns, etc. and the sex...is raw, and real in an artful way. some may feel it's a bit on the pornographic side (NC-17) but it's really real...and if real sex is pornographic to you then warning in watching/renting this movie.
the cinematography was great and the location was amazing!! give me the house on the island with an internet connection and i'd be set. Smile

i got mine from netflix...and its a rated version, i've heard there is an unrated version out there that is even rawer (if that's a word).

Paz Vega is a natural latina beauty.



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Man, I LOVE foreign films! Matter of fact, I watch more of those than I do mainstream movies. Here are some of my favorites.

Raise the Red Lantern (China)
Once Were Warriors (New Zealand, all Polynesian cast)
Whale Rider (New Zealand, all Polynesian)
Audition (Japan, horror flick)
Kama Sutra (India/England)
Ju Dou (China)
Eat, Drink, Man, Woman (Taiwan/China)
The Fringe Dwellers (Australia, all Aboriginal cast)
Malena (Italian)
Lovers (Spain, VERY good movie!)
Monsoon Wedding (India)

There are so many, but that's all I can think of now. Every year I go to the International Film Festival. Wish I could get some of them on video.

What I want to see?

Rabbit Proof Fence
Mira Nair, director of Mississippi Masala, finally has her first movie Salaam Bombay on DVD. Miss. Masala is also on DVD.

2 great movies by Mira Nair.

Definitely see City of God

And also this indie movie called "Reflections" directed by this first time director Michael K. Harris. Really great. It's out on VHS and DVD. Ask your video rental store and ask for it.
Ok, I rented Rabbit Proof Fence today and CRIED! It will move you the same way Roots did when it first came out.

It's the true story of the Aboriginal struggle against the racist azz, genocidal policy of children being forcibly removed from their families in order to wipe out black language, culture, and ultimately, the people themselves.

This particular story is true,and the two surviving real life women depicted are shown at the end of the movie.

This policy was in full effect in Australia until 1970! So many children beaten, abused, brainwashed, and damaged by those devils. They are presently suing for reparations and they deserve it!!!


type these things into your browser and read these articles.

"vivid memories of a stolen generation

Also,

type in "Stolen Generation", and look for link similar to this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_876000/876165.stml

I tried doing hyper and it didn't work, that's why I'm doing this.
here are more foriegn's that a co-worker recommended:

Italian for Beginners (Swedish? - comedy)
Amelie (French - comedy)
Horseman on the Roof (French - romance/drama - lead man is hot!)
Amores Perros (mexican - drama)
Talk to Her (Spanish)
All About My Mother (Spanish -same director as Talk to Her)
Il Postino (Italian - comedy/drama)


this is great sharing these like this! i feel like i've found buried treasure Smile

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rabbit-proof fence...

A MUST SEE...

this was an amazing movie and amazing story!!

one of the scenes that sticks with me the most is when the 'man' is explaining how to breed out the Aborigine race out by continuing to create new generations with white blood.

hmmm, could this be something happening in america today?

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I loved Sex and Lucia. It made me go buy Lovers of the Artic Circle by the same director (Julio Medem), but Sex and Lucia was much hipper and better-crafted, imo. And a great achievement for digital cinematography.

The unrated version which I saw was definitely not suitable for children, but if you're into the symbolism of it (the lighthouse, the lagoon, etc.) and want to interpret the sexing up of the story and how that's fictionalized, fantasized and all that, I'd recommend seeing the unrated version.
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Originally posted by MBM:
How does Netflix work? Is it a good service? Why not just drop by the local Blockbuster?

There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela



Netflix is my savior!! I still have my Blockbuster and Hollywood video memberships--but never use them.

The concept behind Netflix is...

1. Pick your plan:
Select the number of movies you want to have "out" at once--plans range from 3-8 or 9 movies at a time...the more movies out the higher the cost of the plan. (3 movie plan - $19.99 per month)

2. Pick as ALL the movies you want to see and keep them in a your queue in the order that you want to see them. It's important to keep your queue list full.

3. The way to stay ahead of the gimick is to watch and return your movies in a timely manner.--the faster you watch them the faster you get the next movie on your list, and the more movies you watch for your monthly plan fee.

Blockbust I think charges 5 bucks or more for a new release. For $20, thats 4 movies out for 3-5 days, then late fees if their late.

Nexflix you pay the same $20 and can watch as many movies as you can get through in a month having 3 movies out at once.

no late fees, no shipping charges, movies delivered to your mailbox, no midnight drives to the movie rental store to turn a movie in...just walk to your mailbox and send it back in the pre-paid envelope its shipped to you in.

they generally offer the first month "free" with membership--if you don't get a pop-up with a trial-free code..I have plenty of codes to offer. PM me Smile

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Originally posted by Nykkii:
rabbit-proof fence...

_ A MUST SEE..._

this was an amazing movie and amazing story!!

one of the scenes that sticks with me the most is when the 'man' is explaining how to breed out the Aborigine race out by continuing to create new generations with white blood.

hmmm, could this be something happening in america today?

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I often wonder the same thing. When one takes into account the history of our brethren in in the U.K. and how they were STRONGLY encouraged to inter-marry with whites(still are from what I understand)and the situation with the our aboriginal family it becomes very easy to draw those conclusions.

How in the heck did my letters come out red Confused

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May the high praises of YAH be in their mouth and a two edged sword in their hand, To execute vengence on the peoples;to bind their kings with chains,and their nobles in shackles of iron,to carry out the sentence written against them.
This is the glory of the saints (psalms149)
Can anyone recommend "City of The Gods",from Brazil,I heard that was supposed to be very good

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May the high praises of YAH be in their mouth and a two edged sword in their hand, To execute vengence on the peoples;to bind their kings with chains,and their nobles in shackles of iron,to carry out the sentence written against them.
This is the glory of the saints (psalms149)
Huey! Was that hot or what??!! Damn that was a good movie! I don't know how many people here have the "Black starz channel"...it sucks 90% of the time,but the other 10% is black foreign films from france, africa, south america, etc., and they're reeaally good. When I look at alot of the crap black hollywood puts out...we got a lot of catching up to do.

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May the high praises of YAH be in their mouth and a two edged sword in their hand, To execute vengence on the peoples;to bind their kings with chains,and their nobles in shackles of iron,to carry out the sentence written against them.
This is the glory of the saints (psalms149)

[This message was edited by IMMORTAL LOGIC on August 23, 2003 at 11:32 PM.]
I.Logic, is it just me but most of the black hollywood movies out there are a rip off the last film that came before it.

"Deliver Us From Eva" was another one of those Soul Food/Waiting To Exhale/The Wood/The Best Man/Love Jones Psuedo-romantic comedy clones.

The Brothers were the worst. It bit off all of those films above, including Jungle Fever and Boyz N the Hood...but I'll talk about that film another time.

Speaking of sorry, do you know that TBS Superstation is going to have a Martin Lawrence film weekend?
huey--my brotha--no disrespect, but martin lawrence (?), deliver us from eva(?)---umm, very valid topic, but more suited for it's own thread.

let's try to keep this one about foriegn or independent films.

thanks!!

this week i have:

Irreversible
Eat Drink Man Woman
and Read My Lips...

I'll report back once I've watched them. Smile

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In the King of Prussia

The judge is played by Martin Sheen. The defendants play themselves. One of the defendents, Phil Berrigan, was a dear friend of mine (not to mention former cellmate) who sadly passed away reciently.

The Plowshares 8 Action was the first in a series of roughly 70 similar actions from 1980-2003. Prison sentences have varied for each plowshares-disarmament action. The sentences have ranged from suspended sentences to 18 years. The average sentence for plowshares activists has been between one and two years.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000JGDB/ref=cm_rev_all_1/104-7543358-9223955?v=glance&s=video&vi=customer-reviews



PLOWSHARES EIGHT:

September 9, 1980 Daniel Berrigan, Jesuit priest, author and poet from New York City; Philip Berrigan, father and co-founder of Jonah House in Baltimore, MD; Dean Hammer, member of the Covenant Peace Community in New Haven, CT; Elmer Maas, musician and former college teacher from New York City; Carl Kabat, Oblate priest and missionary; Anne Montgomery, Religious of the Sacred Heart sister and teacher from New York City; Molly Rush, mother and founder of the Thomas Merton Center in Pittsburgh and John Schuchardt, ex-marine, lawyer, father and member of Jonah House, entered the General Electric Nuclear Missile Re-entry Division in King of Prussia, PA where nose cones for the Mark 12A warheads were made.

They hammered on two nose cones, poured blood on documents and offered prayers for peace. They were arrested and initially charged with over ten different felony and misdemeanor counts. In February 1981, they underwent a jury trial in Norristown, Pennsylvania. During their trial they were denied a "justification defense" and could not present expert testimony. Due to the Court's suppression of individual testimony about the Mark 12A and U.S. nuclear war-fighting policies, four left the trial and returned to witness at G.E. They were re-arrested and returned to court. They were convicted by a jury of burglary, conspiracy and criminal mischief and sentenced to prison terms of five to ten years. They appealed and the Pennsylvania Superior Court reversed their s. conviction in February 1984. The State of Pennsylvania then appealed that decision. Following a ruling in the fall of 1985 by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court in favor of the State on certain issues (including the exclusion of the justification defense), the case was returned to the Superior Court Appeals Panel. In December of 1987, the Superior Court of Pennsylvania refused their appeal, but ordered a re-sentencing. This ruling, however, was appealed to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. In February 1989 the Pennsylvania Supreme Court denied a hearing of any further issues in the case, and on October 2, 1989 the U.S. Supreme Court announced it would not hear the Plowshares Eight Appeal.

On April 10, 1990 the Plowshares Eight were resentenced by the Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas in Norristown and, with neither the prosecutor nor G.E. making any recommendations or asking reparations, paroled for up to 23 and 1/2 months in consideration of time already served in prison. Judge James Buckingham listened attentively to statements by defendants, attorney Ramsey Clark, Dr. Robert J. Lifton, and Professors Richard Falk and Howard Zinn, placing the "crime" in the context of the common plight of humanity, international law, America's long tradition of dissent, and the primacy of individual conscience over entrenched political system.

For a chronology of plowshares actions: http://www.plowsharesactions.org/Chronology.html


"La vida te da sorpresas...
Sorpresas te da la vida...",
¡Ay, Dios!

Rubén Blades---Pedro Navaja


Plowshares Actions
The Nuclear Resister
School of the Americas Watch



[This message was edited by ricardomath on September 03, 2003 at 01:19 AM.]
to keep a history of all of our INDIE recommendations in one place...

I'm adding YSSYS's post about 30 Years to Life:

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Originally posted by Yssys:
If you all live near a big city, like Dallas, NYC, LA, Miami you must go see this movie. It's called 30 years to Life. It was selected by the Sundance Movie Festival thingie. Smile. If they don't have it in your city, demand it. We need more movies depicting ourselves on screen.
Check it out for yourselves, Timbaland did the soundtrack.
http://www.thirtyyearstolife.com/


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quote:
Originally posted by Nykkii:
this week i have:

Irreversible
Eat Drink Man Woman
and Read My Lips...

I'll report back once I've watched them. Smile



Eat Drink Man Woman was suggested by Toumani, and one thing i'll say to anyone who might rent it--DO NOT WATCH THIS ON AN EMPTY STOMACH!

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I had previously seen the movie Tortilla Soup (involving a Mexican family)which was based on Eat, Drink, Man Woman so I knew the story. It was interesting to see it with an Asian family at the foundation.

--Three grown women still live with their father who has one simple rule: Don't mess with his tradition and his lovingly prepared Sunday evening feast. What could be simpler?

great movie! if you watch Tortilla Soup or Eat, Drink, Man, Woman just be sure to eat first!!

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I've seen Brotherhood of the Wolf, i'm a cinematography freak, so i loved it.

Here are a couple other ones

Leon (The Professional in the U.S.) Make sure if you get the DVD you get the one called Leon and not the Professional, they actually changed it for U.S. screens.

The japanese (original) version of "The Ring", and also, "The Eye" Both of those movies are very scary.

I'm not really in the whole foreign/independent scene so that's all i've seen.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte
Whale Rider--


EXCELLENT film!! If you haven't had the opportunity to see it, rent it! its a great family film to watch especially with your daughters, or any young female.

IMDB Plot Summary:

On the east coast of New Zealand, the Whangara people believe their presence there dates back a thousand years or more to a single ancestor, Paikea, who escaped death when his canoe capsized by riding to shore on the back of a whale. From then on, Whangara chiefs, always the first-born, always male, have been considered Paikea's direct descendants. Pai, an 11-year-old girl in a patriarchal New Zealand tribe, believes she is destined to be the new chief. But her grandfather Koro is bound by tradition to pick a male leader. Pai loves Koro more than anyone in the world, but she must fight him and a thousand years of tradition to fulfill her destiny.

the value and worth you place on yourself will determine the people you will attract.
yuk! i thought "Brotherhood of the Wolf" sucked. stupid plot. but it did have some good martial art seens.
Talk to Her--very very good, a little bit disturbing. it makes you think.
Rabbit Proof Fence--one of my favorites, everyone should see it.
El Norte---very good, we are watching it in my spanish class right now.
Run Lola Run--its really cinemagraphically?-dont know how to spell-good. its really an interesting story.
Catfish in Black Bean Sauce--REALLY GOOD!!! its a great movie and a great story about an interracial couple.

OK. But the one everyone has to see is Bowling for Columbine. even though it came out nationwide, it was quickly pulled out of theatre and is still considered an independent film. this movie is amazing. so many truths about this country are revealed. thats why they pulled it. I suggest everyone see this movie with someone so discussion can follow.

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