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Re: Why Slave-Era Barriers to Black Literacy Still Matter

Nmaginate ·
Another Wealth Gap, Meritocracy MYTH Busting link: http://www.impactpress.com/articles/augsep01/divide80901.html
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Aborigines target sudanese refugees

FireFly ·
thanks for this... I haven't been reading newspapers the past week so it's news to me. One thing though, Toowoomba is in Queensland and Balga is in Western Australia. If you look at a map of Australia you'll see we are a h-u-g-e continent and these places are very far apart. And very different. On a positive note, most people feel this way: "Ms Maasakker said the Sudanese had added another dimension to Toowoomba, and made the town more cosmopolitan." and also this way... "Mr Farrell said the...
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Re: Should Black People...

FireFly ·
I think everyone should be able to BE who they are - unless their behaviour is unacceptable to any part of society. As for the big guy running around the block an extra time, or going out of his way.... for myself, as a white woman, if a big guy (of any race) was getting in an elevator with me alone late at night, then just a smile from anyone would make me feel at ease if I felt uneasy. But I would only feel uneasy if I picked up that vibe. I don't expect special treatment. I don't believe...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Should Black People...

powerflower ·
The context was how we behave in public in general, getting on an elevator, entering a building, walking down the street, etc. As far as commerce is concerned, an good business person should have good customer service skills period. As a business person, if the clients you want are multi-racial then you need to cater to them so that you can get their business. That means treating them with respect, in certain cases trying to anticipate their desires, etc. That goes for Black and White and...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
Oh, now I get it. In comparison to other middle class communities of other races, unfortunately the Black Middle Class seems to be busy trying to emmulate the White Middle Class. A community of selfish, over-privileged "rugged individualists" with that tired old "conservative Protestant work ethic" of "everyone pull yourself up by your own bootstraps". Pesonally, I think African-Americans need to get away from this "middleclassness" mentality. We should be concerned about improving our...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
We can't let this important issue die. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...&address=132x2352250
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
This is a POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR folks. Please note the classic RACIAL GRAVITATIONAL PULL TRICK. Rather than me PUTTING FORTH FACTS I am supposed stay within the confines of what a GOOD KNEEGROW is supposed to think. If there is any point that you can refute PLEASE DO SO. If this were the most LIBERAL president and there was an attack full of LIES I would have posted the very same data. Please tell me in advance Kevin - what else is Bush currently destorying that you and Isome are going...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Kevin41 ·
CF...you cannot even stay within the confines of coherent thought.....and yes you are the great white defender....but before you put things in your racial context......what do you think my take is on ward coonerly or clarence thomas? you think they get a pass from me because of their race? Go back and read what I think of em....and then come back and tell me what I said is based entirely on race.....you say allot of stupid shit CF...but hey, how many times do you find that out on a daily...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
I'm curious, kevin41: what do you think of Afrimericans who were born in poverty yet mainatined their extreme conservative bias throughout the tough years? This isn't a question on whether or not you agree with their views. Despite what some people may believe not all superconservative Blacks did a 180 once they reached a certain level of prominence--some were ultra right-wing through it all and used that conservative ethos to get where they are. As for the health care issue, it never ceases...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Isome ·
A couple years back I was discussing an AMA report that, in addition to the issues delineated in your post, showed: "...African Americans are more likely to be denied authorization by their primary care physician , even after adjusting for severity of symptoms. The cause of this association is unclear, but raises substantial concerns about the equity with which gatekeeping is practiced. The findings could represent a difference in severity of illness that was inadequately measured by a...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
UN: If study after study shows this then HOW DOES THIS EVIDENCE CHANGE YOUR STRATEGY ? If it is the case that RACIAL PREFERENCE for your own kind is paramount then IS IT LOGICAL for your end game to be to stop the people in power from doing this OR SHOULD IT BE to [/b]develop a system FOR YOUR OWN PEOPLE[/b] so that people who look like you are servicing people who look like you, insuring the quality level that you desire? Is it logical to try to change the basic properities of kryptonite so...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

MBM ·
Too bad, CF, you don't understand that those in power and wealth got there in large part through illegal, immoral, and exploitive ways. They seek to "lock in" their immorally obtained lead in society and fear true and free competition with anyone. And BTW - this has NOTHING to do with political and social conservatism.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
Constructive Feedback: thank you for ASS uming you know where I stand. If you have read any of my posts, you would know that I am for voluntary Black separatism and strengthening our own communities economically and politically through self-investment, not through asking the Democrats to through us a bone (or smiling when we perceive the conservatives do). Why do you criticise people who agree with you? At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that it is a f*cked up thing to do to deny a...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Interesting. So let me ask you MBM - you have some measure of wealth in your posession. A house, a car, computer equipment. Can we conclude that you have gotten these things as well from skullduggery and thuggery but just is lesser portion than they did? Did Michael Vic or Earl Graves, both of whom are millionaires receive their fortunes in the manner that you indicate? You are throwing out some gross generalizations today man.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
There have been plenty of studies done on racial disparities on medical treatment. SOME have shown that even Black practitioners provide a lower standard of care to Black patients. In my view it has to do with the amount of insurance that is available to the individual based on the job that they work, the general standard of the medical facility itself (as compared to one in a more wealthy facility and YES plain ole racism. Michael has documented the tale of shoddy medical care at MLK...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Nmaginate ·
Your slip is showing... I can see your PUSSY! BTW, I missed your comment-response when MBM said this, earlier, where you thought the word "LIBERALIZE" had some special magic there, too: But thanks for showing your True White DEFERENCE Colors. And, I'm the one who knows calls you "WHITE". Kevin, I believe, calls you a Foot Shufflin', Bowed Head, Uncle Tom, NUTS ON YOUR CHIN (oops! That's Faheem) Lackey NEGRO! Get it straight, WHITE BOY! And while you're at it, direct your comments to the MBM...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: What makes caucasians white?

folobatuyi ·
Dear Art-girl, My understanding of the difference in the pigmententation btw the various racial groups lies in the relative amounts of melanin in the melanocytes that lie in the skin. It has been said that everyone has the same number of melanocytes (melanin producing cells) but the ones in darker complexioned folks produce more of the dark pigment melanin...which in my opinion would confirm the commonality of man as one race and the varying amounts of melanin being reflective of the region...
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
PARITY? That's funny - when I listen to Bloomberg or CNBC each morning on the ride to work I hear about "financial justification", "shareholder value" and "bottom line profits". It seems to me that Sir Jesse Jackson is attempting to apply to Wall street some concepts that don't necessarily fall into their way of doing business - and that is GREEN. Very soon few workers will need to worry about their "Pensions". An increasing number of their employers will be switching to 401k programs. The...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: 2005 Lynching

Kweli4Real ·
I saw this article at another site. They got to talking about lynching, defining it and talking about how politicians have misappropriated it [Goolge: Clarence Thomas+High Tech Lynching]. Then they got to questioning how the SC law defines lynching as "any attack on a person by a group that causes injury" [paraphrasing]. They all gave reasons for the disconnect between the SC law and lynching's historic racial context; some even priased the law's "color-blindness." I would argue that the...
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Re: Some sobering statistics on poverty

Pace Tua ·
Unfortunately, these numbers and what they mean have become "normalized", in the sense put forward by Edward Herman in his book "Triumph of the Market". It can only be so, as capitalism panders to the uncontrolled greed and self-interest of the few. These statistics have to be accepted, normalized or else people would realize something is wrong and this is a threat to capitalist culture. And there is a method to all this as well. One of the cornerstones is to promote the banality of evil.
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

MidLifeMan ·
Like I said, in an ideal world or maybe a fairytale land race wouldn't be an issue. But in the context of the "real world" and this country it has been, and probably will be for a long time. So love/empathy/trust/loyalty is relevant and I didn't say or imply that they are not, I never said anyone was deficient and like I said, whatever floats another man's boat so I'm not "dictating "anything to anyone. And all of the talk about "love should only matter" is, as I said, great in an ideal...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

Black Viking ·
I saw the show. It was very interesting to me because I'm bi-racial. The question that kept comming to me about that mother was, "How do you act white? Is there a specific way that white people act?" The mother also said she thought her daughter wasn't black enough. So, of course, similar questions present themselves,"How black is black enough? How does one portray blackness?" I think the mother's unaddressed problem is that her daughter is more than half-white. She has very Aryan features...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

HonestBrother ·
Maybe Constructive Feedback knows this guy?
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

qty226 ·
I think this is really good advice for those that date interracially.
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Re: AN UNEVEN HAND: THE DISCIPLINE GAP IN SEATTLE SCHOOLS

Nmaginate ·
In the other thread, you referenced a White Blog with a bunch of BS written about the study. Though this was an attempt to be intelligent as opposed to just speaking in the talking point Language of Right vs. Left STUPIDITY, the following quote from one of the respondants shows exactly how bankrupt their objections are: Somehow, it didn't occur to our friend that, by the same consideration/comparison token, there is no way to make a case against the racial discrimination claim (as he and his...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
No, because Black children are not White or Asian children. Black children are just as academically capable, smart, and competent as other children , but because they are Black, they are often times treated differently than other children, particularly in academic environments. Thus, whatever "academic handicaps" that Black students develop as result of past and present mistreatment is not "self-inflicted," but inflicted upon them by society. And this is what "racial identity education"...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
First off, I think it's important for everyone to assess and reassess their goals frequently. Because life, and our lives don't remain static. So it is a great question to ask of ourselves - what is our version of the American (or Australian) dream? Wanting a house (territory), a car (mobility), and income (security) is fine, however the perception and reality of the so-called American Dream depend entirely on the person dreaming the dream. OK call me a wet blanket but... A lot of people...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

Rowe ·
It sadens me that we don't see and/or appreciate this kind of beauty more often. Who determines what is "ugly?" Where have all the Black models gone? - a supermodel analyzes racist factors in several industries that impact jobs in the media and fashion modeling industry by Veronica Webb In the fall of 1994, I shared the cover of YSB with Black male model Clayton Hunter and with Roshumba, who had been featured in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue three years in a row. I, like more than a...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! PUSSY!!! Over << here >> PUSSY!!! Man, I feel like the Gap Band singing, "You Can't Keep Runnin'"... But your PUNK ASS is full of sprints. Why is it that RHETORIC is the only and best tool in your busted ass tool box, CON-Feed? Never the one to engage. So you just BULLSHIT! Now, let's have it. What is the source of your Flailing, Grasping ISSUES? You obviously will never understand or submit to comprehending ENLISH!!! What's up with this connection you're trying to...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Sweetwuzzy ·
Yup. All the time. Racism is such a dirty word, and unlike the past, it is taboo to be openly racist, so racist must pretend that they are not racist and that racism does not exist.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
As nicely as I can say it....... STFU, "WHITE BOY!!" When you say things like this: Point out the fact that they are making use of some of the very same tactics that are now illegal after years of their protests and you are likely to be attacked...certainly verbally attacked, maybe physically attacked. YOU MIGHT BE A WHITE BOY ! Seriously though, take that BS right up off my thread. You know, that WHITE BOY BS!! You know, like this WHITE BOY BS: So, CF? Any other Stormfront-like opinions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
 
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