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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
True, these are sadly too absent from the Asian-American Community. There are good Asian-American musicians, artists and entertainers, I'm not sure I would say the entertainers are "great" (as in universally notoriable). Just like Afrian-Americans, Asian-Americans also face a glass ceiling in this country as well. They are expected by White Americans to be nothing more than businessmen and scientists. Just keep serving YT and keep their noses to the grind. I think some Asian-American...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Guest ·
Reading for COMPREHENSION is fundamental. I SAID FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE WHITE LIBERAL RACIST as long as the Black man does not express any notions of REAL INDEPEDENCE - such as the drive for REPARATIONS - then the Black man will remain in the good graces of the White Protective Liberal. When Ted Kennedy is "attacking the system" on behalf of the BQPF he is a friend who will help them acheive their goals WITHIN THE SYSTEM ITSELF. When the issue of REPARATIONS comes about it is TED...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Rowe: I don't have the same views as your date. It is not about "working hard". PLENTY of people "work hard". For me it is about CULTURE and the PROCESS for achieving these cultural directives. Many Asian families have the concept of "Shame upon the family". This "pressure" is put upon the kids to have them act in line with some sort of principles and dignity as they conduct their lives. SURELY all of them do not abide by this all of the time but atleast it can serve as a course correction...
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Re: What makes caucasians white?

Empty Purnata ·
On racial categories, one case-in-point on how broad "racial" categories are is Central Asians. Central Asians (peoples from Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Kahazakstan, Turkey, Iran, etc.)are Caucasoid, yet they don't resemble Western Europeans very much. Central Asians have rounded (actually, semi-Monogoloidic eyes), big noses, fullish lips, wavy and/or curly hair, and brown skin. About 100,000 years ago, some Central Asians traveled eastward into Asia (which...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: PBS: African American Lives

Faheem ·
PBS TO OFFER SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH February 1 – February 28, 2006 Alexandria, VA - January 25, 2006 - From history to culture to drama to independent film, PBS features year-round programming both created by and about African Americans. In honor of Black History Month, PBS will broadcast a variety of new and encore presentations that celebrate the rich history of African Americans. The centerpiece for this month of special programs is a four-hour series by Henry Louis...
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Re: Who Were You In Your Last Life?

Rowe ·
I don't know how you feel about it, but you were male in your last earthly incarnation: You were born somewhere in the territory of modern South China around the year 725. Your profession was that of a digger, undertaker . Your brief psychological profile in your past life: Revolutionary type. You inspired changes in any sphere - politics, business, religion, housekeeping. You could have been a leader. The lesson that your last past life brought to your present incarnation: You are bound to...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
OOh. Why don't you do a study so we can find out who the evil race-mixers are? China lost manufacturing jobs as the US was losing them ... and many more at that. So, what were you saying?
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
I never said that race mixing is evil....just noting some people cannot seem to find worthy black folks to marry and most often these folks are conservatives. Hmmmmmm Oh look at you do the jig around China. The fact is that Much of Chinas growth is related to US direct foreign investment. My question is why not China could grow from its own capital investment at the same rate and does not the direct foreign investment coming from the US mean that the US has LOST those investment dollars? If...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
That's like saying when I buy something from someone, every person other than that someone loses. Ridiculous. No one in either side is made worse off in your hypothetical. A company is taking its own money and investing it. It's not taking someone else's money. There's no zero-sum here.
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Well...you seem to not understand that competition produces winners and losers and hence by its nature represents a zero sum. Given population growth, there need to be economic growth and job growth just to keep up with providing opportunity for an expanding population. Thus, when there is capital to be invested which creates jobs and income for peoples. Geographic locations compete for the investment dollars. Some win and some lose. Even within the United States, there has been a migration...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It is not at all obvious that A's gain is B's loss. That's why your argument about manufacturing jobs fell flat. If a US company takes its profits and invests them in China, tell me, who has "lost" something? Investment seekers in the US may have "lost" competition for investment dollars, but they have not lost anything tangible. They are just as well off as they were before the US company decided to invest its profits. Some specific group may not be as well off as they could have been , but...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Kweli4Real ·
Welcome back Toussaint. I see that you remain firm in your "free market globalism." Yet, you refuse to recognize that with globalism there are in fact losers that really weren't even in the game. You ask: I say ask any of the 100's of thousands of US employees that lost their sources of livelihood. For those above, globalism is in fact a zero-sum game. The globalism that you promote is exploitively as well as myopic. But for a Black person to support, let alone, promote a system that has...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
The situation was that a company decides to invest money in China. You can't just assume job turnover (let alone job loss) from that situation. Business invest in other countries all the time, and it doesn't equate to job loss or job turnover. If you had decided to insert your ignorance in the beginning of the debate rather than in the middle, you might've known that. If I buy noodles from China, that doesn't mean someone in the US loses their job. People in the US are just as well off as...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
If free trade is so horrible, then why has Hong Kong, which has the most open economy in the world become richer than the nation that had colonized it(UK)? Maybe Noah should go tell them how they're being exploited. Why have tens of millions been lifted out of poverty in China since they opened up their economy and practice free trade in their special economic zones? Maybe Nmag should hurry up and tell them how free trade is just for white people. Why has the same happened for India? It is...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint, you seem to be a less intellectually worthy opponent than in the past, unless I am confusing you with someone else. First, do not put words in my mouth. I never made a pro or con argument in regards to free trade, my argument was against your denial of zero sums. The first thing that you need to note about Hong Kong is that it was a City-state, like Singapore. These small populations are easily turned around by direct foreign investment from large wealthy nations, pumping in...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Here is a real work example of zero sum Toussiant. Who can forget the neocons' claim that under their leadership America creates its own reality? Remember the neocons' Iraq reality--a "cakewalk" war? After three years of combat, thousands of casualties, and cost estimated at over $1 trillion, real reality must still compete with the White House spin machine. One might think that the Iraq experience would restore sober judgement to policymakers. Alas, neocon reality has spread everywhere. It...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

Frenchy ·
Then tell me when the last time was that you looked for an eligible man to date. Since I am apparently "wrong" about what I see and experience and so are these other sistas. Please, break it down for us and tell us what it is exactly that we run into out there. Clearly, we are all bitter liars inventing fantastic stories so that we can remain single and childless. What does that have to do with the price of beans in China? That speaks exclusively to your experience with women . It says ZIP,...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It really takes a true spin artist to take an unprecedented decrease in poverty and turn it into a bad thing. Unbelievable. It's sad that folks who sit here with all kinds of comforts are opposed to others striving for those same things. And suggesting that these folks would be better off with less choices... in a barter society? lol... now I remember why I got bored with this board a while back. Every rich nation started off poor like the nations I mentioned. They all had to develop and go...
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Re: Please, please read and digest

Faheem ·
The U.S. is still trying to flex its muscle towards Iran while China and Russia are using the U.S. arogance to their advantage. ========================== China-Iran Energy Talks Complicate Nuclear Standoff February 17, 2006; Page A6 China and Iran are trying to conclude a multibillion-dollar oil-and-gas deal in coming weeks, underscoring how China's appetite for energy could undermine Washington's efforts to isolate Iran. An agreement would seal a memorandum of understanding signed by China...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

nayo ·
""don't buy that rhetoric. And beyond that, many of the very people who make that argument aren't so keen at recognizing or attacking actual material elements that function as "tools that maintain White Supremacy/Racism." I maintain that the focus on the N-Word is DWELLING ON THE SUPERFICIAL. __________________________________________ I do'nt believe that we disagree entirely here. You assume that that is my focal/focus for all things 'white supremacist'--- 'the 'N' word'; that is patently...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
No. I assumed nothing. I was clear in qualifying what I said (and feel) by saying: "...many of the very people who make that argument aren't so keen at recognizing or attacking actual material elements..." I was simply stating my position. Not attacking or assuming anything about yours for we have not had that type of discussion. That is not in contention. But those things mention as "Bulls In The China Shop" really don't speak to "tools" that function in a way to institutionalize and...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Pace Tua ·
Toussaint, a few of your assumptions are flawed. For one, the assumption that free-market economies are free. This may be more or less true, but for us it's getting less and less true with each passing year. Government de-regulation, government interference, corporate collusion and monopolistic practices are limiting that free-market more and more over time. The result is less choice, not more. Good cases in point are the lack of enforcement of anti-trust laws that are on the books and the...
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Melesi ·
You're not thinking. "I" didn't do any of this, do not want any of this, don't agree with it when it is tried, so you are not talking about me no matter how much you want to pretend you are. ++++++++++++++++++++++++ What the hell do you call prayer in school? ++++++++++++++++++++++++ How does this apply to the topic? The first public school in America was Christian, in Boston. It was run, as most things were, by the Brethren, who, though not exactly right-wing, were nonetheless oppressive.
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Re: The Left Hand of God

HonestBrother ·
I did not claim one had to be religious in order to be oppressive nor have I ever gone on record as being for the elimination of religion. Nor have I ever expressed the view that by getting rid of religion we would also rid ourselves of hatred, ambition, and oppression. I've actually expressed opposite views on a number of occasions. So where you get these ideas is beyond me. Back to the subject. OK. I accept that I shouldn't identify you with the religious right. But I will go so far as to...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Melesi ·
oshun, Please read what I wrote. I did not say that Greece got nothing from Egypt. Of course it did. The Greeks even said so, and that is still in the history of Greece. I first read that a long time ago in one of those huge Time-Life coffee-table picture books of Greece. So please do not say that whites "edit out" that information to keep it from everybody. I learned it from whites themselves. Besides, that's not my point. My point is twofold: 1. The Greeks were good enough thinkers to have...
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Re: Dropout Gates says: Get degree

FireFly ·
well, that's a relief Bill...
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

ZAKAR ·
I for people who are always anticipating the fall of the US. I'd be careful. You, your families, your children, all of us ARE the US. The US is not just land and government, people make up a nation and whether you feel you've been excluded or not, when the ship goes down, you go down with it. Instead of stating what many see as being the inevitable, why don't you dooms-day crier's start thinking of ways to save the ship. I paraphrase Eldridge Cleaver when I challenge you to check yourself...
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Re: Condi for President? No thank you.

nayo ·
The comment towards the end of this article, is relatively disengenuous, as it minimizes the historical significance of 'the trades' industrial side;and while slavery had ended, it is obvious who was working the cotton fields. (isolated comment near the end.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rice's Beatle break from diplomacy U.S. secretary of state in Liverpool, will meet British counterpart From Elise Labott CNN Thursday, March 30, 2006; Posted: 8:19 p.m.
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Re: Illegal Immigration

EbonyRose ·
U.S. Immigration Bill Could Hurt Mexicans By MARK STEVENSON MEXICO CITY (AP) - A proposal in Congress to legalize millions of undocumented migrants in the United States could backfire by slashing the amount of money they send home, Mexican economists warn. The argument goes like this: Mexicans who have permission to work in the United States will want to bring their families north to live with them, eliminating the main reason they send money home. That would hurt Mexican businesses that...
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

HonestBrother ·
They control the systems of information... anyone who is not in line with their thinking is 'fringe'... and will not gain significant access to the corridors of power... They've given the appearance of democratic legitimacy to virtual one party corporate rule... Even WalMart can afford to keep the "Communist Manifesto" in stock...now that their largest source of cheap labor is Red China...
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Re: Incentives

Empty Purnata ·
Communism, at least in it's original definition, is not state socialism. The original definition of communism (the one I was working with) is a stateless society with collective ownership and decision making. Communism is also supposed to be a postmonetary society, money doesn't exist in a communist society. Clearly, that hasn't occurred and was certainly not what was going on in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union had what is called "state socialism" (a state goverment attempting to enact...
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Re: Bush: Won't rule out nuclear strike

Shango67 ·
He is certainly not the brightest cat. At least Clinton, Bush 41, Nixon (forget Watergate... the dude normalized relations with China during his presidency and he did it without the help of Congress... and politically speaking, that was no easy task), and Carter had the intellectual and MENTAL capacity to do the job. Bush 43 is not only lacking ability, he is probably still suffering from dyslexia.
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

Yemaya ·
OK my question is why does the Pan African movement have to include going back to Africa?? I'm very interested in your logic about this, MBM. I don't think that we need to go back to Africa. I think that the main issue is creating a unified front. To make people of African descent proud to be African and to have the resources that enable us to hold our own as a people. Give you an example. Chinese people. They have China, but if you go in major cities there's a chinatown. They have Chinese...
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

tmonster ·
I agree, where is little congo or nigeria town?
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Re: Incentives

umbrarchist ·
Garbage is a higher class of trash. Like an empty tin can that used to contain caviar versus an empty tin can that used to contain tuna. Adam Smith advocated a system in which each individual pursuing his self interest resulted in what was best for society as a whole. But Adam Smith did not live in a world of planned obsolescence and Freudian marketing techniques. The self proclaimed cpitalists in this society hold up Adam Smith as their Lawgiver (see Planet of the Apes) but they don't talk...
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Re: Incentives

Empty Purnata ·
Have you gone elitist on me now? True. Capitalism doesn't sound that bad in Adam Smith's original envisionment of it. Adam Smith, although a capitalist, was actually pretty socialistic in heart in many of his views. He believed that people would be able to use capitalism to benefit society as a whole and he had a real disdain for businessmen and aristorcracy. However, he also distrusted the people, he believed that capitalism could be properly used by "enlightened statesmen" and "philosopher...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

ZAKAR ·
Its not that most black kids think learning is acting white or their only chance at getting a head is through sports and entertainment. The fact of the matter is in the last 10 or 15 years the nature of the economy began to change so rapidly people were not prepared for it. Instead of the technical schools and shop classes many kids would get into were cut out. The construction jobs dried up because of the undercutting by illegal labor.Manufacturing shut its doors and moved to Mexico, India...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

HonestBrother ·
Zakar, this is pecisely part of the point I was trying to make. I was not trying to diss on the poor. To answer LibDem's question: No...I would not move back to the neighborhood I grew up in. Because to do so would require me to quit my job and uproot myself 400 miles away to a city and state where I haven't lived for more than 25 years. I would not do that even if the neighborhood was a wealthy one (which it is not). I grew up on the "bad side" of town... and you know what? I didn't know it...
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Re: The African Presence in China & Japan

James Wesley Chester ·
Thanks for a very interesting and informative piece. It ties in well with the information on sea-going, square-sail vessels moving between China and the east coast of Africa. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The African Presence in China & Japan

Fabulous ·
Originally posted by James Wesley Chester: Thanks for a very interesting and informative piece. It ties in well with the information on sea-going, square-sail vessels moving between China and the east coast of Africa. PEACE Jim Chester -------------------- You're welcomed, Mr. Jim Chester. I thought the article was pretty interesting & informative myself. I'm amazed by our history & just how far it extends (geographically).
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Re: The African Presence in China & Japan

Huey ·
Do you think this ancient past will further influence the economic trade between China and the African continent?
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
In the sense that the war(s) on Hussein were an effort to prevent hussein from dominating and controlling the world's oil as he has obviously expressed his desire to do so, then yes, it was a war to 'protect' the world's oil reserves from being monopolized by a rogue dictator. But no mbm, Friedman is a fruitcake, and the ignorance regarding Korea is truly amazing considering you were presumed a 'thinking' individual mbm. (thats right, I'm not letting you hide behind friedman) Again, I will...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

MBM ·
SERGEANT, SO GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK WITH YOUR UNIQUE TAKE ON THE WORLD! First of all, in this thread I've made NO comments about anything other than saying that Friedman's article is interesting. Your comments directed to me are therefore, presumably, indicative of either your inability to read or some personal hang-up that you may suffer from. Either way - you should get help! That said, do you remember the Bush Doctrine and what that is all about? It's about PREEMPTING threats. The fact...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
That was the expected response mbm, thats why I clarified that at least for me, it would not suffice for you to hide behind an article that YOU posted here. Don't play that I didn't say it nonsense, you KNOW you support most that silly article, else why post it at all. And Friedman is notorious for being a nitwit. Lets see, 12 full years of UNITED NATIONS resolutions, negotiations, meetings, and sometimes threats and clinton had ALREADY installed the SANCTIONS, thats WORLD multilateralism...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

MBM ·
So, who was the greater terrorist threat, Iraq or Saudi Arabia? Let's see, where's Osama Bin Laden from? Where were most of the 9/11 terrorists from? Bush holds hands with SA yet overruns a country that we have been "patrolling" and "inspecting" since 1991? Huh? Why is it that apparently you can only connect Iraqi dots? There has always been far greater evidence about Saudi complicity in violence and terrorism than an emasculated Iraq. Thank you for clarifying the finer points of the Bush...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

darkbuck ·
A country founded by white men??? How can you discover something that is already inhabited by a race of people??? The IT field is a PRIME example of diversity. During the late 90's, most IT departments were filled with minorities from EVERYWHERE, India, China, Japan, Hong Kong, Africa, Jamaica, etc. I know because I was one of them. I even ran into people that I couldn't tell what race they were. The big thing at that time in congress were them putting a cap on the Hb1 vistas that was...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

sergeant ·
I like you too mbm, although I often disagree with you politically and socially. I read literally because words are important, and we need to mean what we say and say what we mean. Theres far too little of that round here, and it leads to misperceptions and misinterpretation, something I see daily on these boards. (in fact you are doing it now) To conclude, here is the question again: "Where and when has 'diversity' been anyone's strength? Now, when he hear that phrase uttered, are the...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Here's a nice expose on Clark from the Washington Post. Clark seen as talented, testy By Vernon Loeb, The Washington Post From his plebe year at West Point, retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark was always first in his class, a step ahead of his peers. His rise to the top of the U.S. military seemed almost preordained, given his drive, intellect and burning will to win. BUT CLARK, 58, who won the Purple Heart and Silver Star in Vietnam in 1970 and commanded NATO's air war in Kosovo 29 years later,...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

sergeant ·
"but nobody throughout history did what the first Americans did. It is unprecedented." You seem like a nice man, but your statement is UTTER nonsense. Why was the great wall of china built, for example? That is but one of millions of examples of what people have done to people throughout human existance. And get this, the 'monguls' of northern asia, the very same people some of whom later migrated into North America, whom we now call 'native americans', are you familiar with the history of...
 
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