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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the New and Old Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns slavery. If anything,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the Old and New Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids - or even condemns - the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Frenchy ·
Nice try. We were talking about BLACK gay people when I asked you the question and you responded, AND I QUOTE: "let black gays march with the gay rights types......they have more in common than I do with any of them" ( Full Text here ) Because you do contradict yourself. You express something and then claim to not feel one way or the other. As the quote above demonstrates, you clearly have formed opinions about gay people, the gay movement, gay BLACK people, etc.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
I want to know how is it that few people link the current day Voucher Movement with its historical predecessor. With all the anti-school desegregation machinations where Whites tried to get government funding for their private schools... I'm like trying to see how come that RACIST history is ignored or forgotten.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
Do you think the vocher movement today has the intention to desegregate ??? If the U.S. models its educational system like Poland or Belgium, most likely American schools will be segregated, but the segregation probably will not matter, because poor performing schools will be shut down, and the students from the poor performing schools will be put into educatinally better schools.So the children from poor performing schools will not be left hanging.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
I don't think either JWC or SweetWuzzy quite got Nmag's clear point. With all the anti-school desegregation machinations where Whites tried to get government funding for their private schools... I'm like trying to see how come that RACIST history is ignored or forgotten. To answer Sweet... The intention is for Whites to obtain government subsidies for their private school perogatives. The problem and even the reason for concern over integration is how it is an American Social/Political Fact...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Empty Purnata ·
Now there is no debating that. Anyone who tries to deny the fact that "school vouchers" have a racist past, and most likely a racist modern-day intent, have their heads buried in the ground. Of course, many White racists will deny it to the end, and their Black-faced, chicken-eating, greasy-grinnin', coon-shuffling lackies will follow them to the ends of the Earth and beyond.
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Guest ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: A Declaration of Unity and Vested Interest in America

James Wesley Chester ·
No, I didn't write it. But does kinda look like 'my stuff'. Right? Out of curiosity, and with it being the MLK Holiday, I thought I would post this piece without credits. This piece is the seminal resolution of the Free African Society Convention of 1817 held in Philadelphia at Bethel A.M.E. Church. The convention and its resulting resolution was in repudiation of the American Colonization Movement to deport African American-Americans. It is the seminal document to the foundation of African...
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Kweli4Real ·
by JWC Maybe Williams is catching on to what most Black Conservatives eventually come to realize-"He be ni@@er, too." The Conservative movement only pays [Black Conservatives] as long as they can be trotted out to the "reasonable white public" as the proof that "See, our-policies-and-condemnations-can't-be-racist-because-here's-a-Black-saying-the-same-thing." [Remember the Ossie Davis character in "Get On The Bus"?] But, as Nmaginate alludes to, when it was publicized that Williams was...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

James Wesley Chester ·
How do African Americans create a "unity paradigm" that works for the highly stratified "black diaspora?"---Nmaginate The group I am referencing is that group that is of unknown African ancestry. That group may be expanded to include any other person of African ancestry who a citizen of, or resident in, the United States. And I guess I should add all those involved should be speaking to the best needs for African America, as indicated in your initial phrase of the quote. Having said that...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/01/25/nigeria.hostages.reut/index.html WARRI, Nigeria (Reuters) -- Villagers fled Nigeria's lawless delta on Wednesday amid fears of military reprisals after a wave of attacks on foreign oil companies by ethnic Ijaw militia. The army deployed more troops to key installations and oil companies tightened security around their offices a day after heavily armed men stormed the headquarters of Italian oil firm Agip, robbing a bank on the premises and killing...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

HonestBrother ·
(1) Is this taking into account another 100 years of Jim Crow? (2) It's controversial exactly what Lincoln and the Union troops were sacrificing for - i.e., was it to end slavery or was it to preserve the Union? And there were also non-altruistic reasons for white northerners to oppose slavery. For example, many white northern industrialists feared that if the south industrialized that it would have a tremendous competitive advantage due to access to a huge pool of free slave labor. (3) But...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

SistahSouljah ·
Yeahhhhhh they just chose to participate in the crimes against humanity first. Makes me wanna vomit.
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Re: PBS: African American Lives

Faheem ·
PBS TO OFFER SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH February 1 – February 28, 2006 Alexandria, VA - January 25, 2006 - From history to culture to drama to independent film, PBS features year-round programming both created by and about African Americans. In honor of Black History Month, PBS will broadcast a variety of new and encore presentations that celebrate the rich history of African Americans. The centerpiece for this month of special programs is a four-hour series by Henry Louis...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Activists keep alive memory of Iowa's civil-rights pioneers Fifty years ago, three blacks facing discrimination said enough was enough Edna Griffin challenged prejudice 50 years ago by asking to be served at the Katz Drug Store in downtown Des Moines. A year later she and two other blacks had their right to equal service affirmed. It was a watershed event in the civil-rights movement. By SHIRLEY SALEMY REGISTER STAFF WRITER Originally published 6/21/1998 On a hot summer afternoon, two Des...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Edna Griffin did the right thing By REKHA BASU REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published 1/26/1998 Before institutional memory has faded, and the 88-year-old's time is over, Des Moines should erect a monument to Edna Griffin. Chances are you don't know Griffin's name. No building or street carries it. Iowa schoolchildren don't learn it when they study the civil rights movement. And when lifetime Service Awards bearing the name of Martin Luther King Jr. were handed out to the governor and four...
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

ricardomath ·
It seems to me that any example of progress can be use as an arguement that racism is dead, and we now live in a color-blind society. I see such arguements being made all the time right now, against Afirmative Action or whatever, even without a penny of reparations being made. Of course, some people would add reperations to their long list of reasons that they already have. There's nothing special about a supposed backlash resulting from reperations. Every step forward does that.
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

Nmaginate ·
One thing to note, though, is how markedly different African-Americans are regarded when compared to Jews and Japanese-Americans. Though made out of fear or other such emotions, they are hardly misplaced. There is plenty of reasons to have those "fears"/emotions. They just don't make logical sense because, legally, there really is no reason to believe that it would go down that way (i.e. written in statutes), regardless of animosity Whites, even White legislators, etc. may hold. In even...
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

Nmaginate ·
Thank you, Ricky!! I'll be saving that one!
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

ZAKAR ·
yea it was nice, I love old Joe Lowery, with my mother and sistas being hard working SCLC members it made me proud to see the President of the organization, standing up speaking truth to power. Did you all see sista Shabazz, its beautiful how the queen mothers of the movement (Betty,Coretta, and Merley)bonded with one another and supported each others family. If the men would do that we would be much further down the road to liberation
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

Kweli4Real ·
You're being sarcastic, right? How better to celebrate a person's life than to give farther voice to their message? More sarcasm, right? Just so we're clear ... The GOP "don't come around" because they are diametrically opposed to what the Civil Rights Movement represents[ed]. And, why would anyone that even care to make a group, or someone, that is on record as being, at best apathetic, but in many cases, hostile to your very personhood, comfortable? Oh, I get it. It's that ole "turn the...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

kresge ·
Some of you may have seen this article, but I thought I would throw it into the mix from the site Race Traitor . The White Anti-Racist Is an Oxymoron: An Open Letter to "White Anti-Racists" By Tamara K. Nopper I received an annoying e-mail about white people and their struggle to do anti-racist work. I keep reading and hearing white people talk about their struggle to do anti-racist organizing, and frankly it gets on my nerves. So I am writing this open letter to white people who engage in...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

HonestBrother ·
So which is it? 1) Either the masses don't understand modern art: 2) Or they do understand it and just don't appreciate it: And how can you coherently speak of the "world view of modern art" as if that were one clearly identifiable thing? I can point to so called modernist and postmodernist artists who had very different world views and ideologies. Some of them, like T.S. Elliot, were professing Christians. And, lastly, how is being inaccessible to the masses per se a spiritual problem?
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love Coretta Scott King who was forever beautiful, gracious, and just as visionary as her famous husband: Martin Luther King , who was studying for his doctorate in theology at Boston University, had told a mutual friend he was looking for a wife. The friend gave him Coretta Scott's phone number but when he came calling she was not impressed. "I saw this green car coming up the street and this short man," she said in an interview. "He leaned over to open the door, and when I got in the car...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
Great that you posted these musings Melesi. I don't have common reference points with you as far as a diet of Arthur Miller or Jose Ortega y Gassett, so my response is more intuitive, being someone who does draw and paint. And therefore subjective, which all discussion of art ultimately is. I'd like to know your own personal thoughts and interactions on/with modern art though, references aside. First off, every artist is an individual. They may be popularist, obscure, political, commercial,...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO, know the hell you're talking about before you open your mouth. Again, THE INTENT or "how it is meant" coming from a White person is IRRELEVANT!!! Second, Black people use of the term has nothing to do with how Black people should regard White people's use of it. There is NO SITUATION (or a very .0000001% few) where a White person can say the word and it not be inherently problematic. As they say, Black people use it AMONGST THEMSELVES as a term of endearment/affection. Simply put,...
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Re: Changing 'black' studies for the times

ZAKAR ·
I hope you didnt interpret what I said as wanting to deminish African Americans in the African American Studies Department because it couldnt be further from the truth. I just simply state that just by ignoring our history before we came to the US is not gonna help anyone, and wanting to isolate our problems here in America as local when its all in a global context. Epecially with the type of Economy the World is moving into. It would be much benifical to teach our children all our history...
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Re: Changing 'black' studies for the times

James Wesley Chester ·
Those pioneers who started the blacK studies movement had a focus on africa and our africaness as well as our contributions here in the US---ZAKAR You are more likely to be right about that than I in that I have never had a course in that program. Still I would have thought those programs would have been first focused on African America, then the relationship with the history related to Africa. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO?? Put up or SHUT UP! HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"? Put up or SHUT UP! You called it "hypocrisy", you invoked the Civil Rights Movement et al... Answer the question. What the FUCK does that mean? HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"? "ALL" my azz! Answer the question. What is the "OBJECTIVE TREATMENT" in this whole WHITES CAN'T SAY THE N-WORD thingy that amounts to anything worth mentioning in the same conversation as the Civil Rights...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Here is a real work example of zero sum Toussiant. Who can forget the neocons' claim that under their leadership America creates its own reality? Remember the neocons' Iraq reality--a "cakewalk" war? After three years of combat, thousands of casualties, and cost estimated at over $1 trillion, real reality must still compete with the White House spin machine. One might think that the Iraq experience would restore sober judgement to policymakers. Alas, neocon reality has spread everywhere. It...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Ummmm.... That was an answer to a different question. And the question was NEVER about you "personally." See!? You faked like you answered THE SECOND ONE. HOW WOULD...? HOW ARE...? = Different questions. And, again, NEITHER asked about you "personally." But, thanks... Now it's all clear that all your talk about the thing with the teacher being "JUST AS RACIST" and it being "BIGOTRY" is/was nothing but BULLSHIT!! I read all of that. And all of that is IRRELEVANT! You're still speaking about...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Nigeria Militant Leader Warns Foreign Oil Workers to Leave Amid Fresh Violence By Osmond Chidi, AP WARRI, Nigeria (AP) - A Nigerian militant leader reportedly warned foreign oil workers out of the country's troubled delta by midnight Friday as an army helicopter gunship exchanged fire with militants in the latest violence to strike the region. The British Broadcasting Corp. reported militant commander Godswill Tamuno had announced his Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta was...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Guest ·
Funny how you wouldn't answer the very question that I put forth with regard to left-wing progressivism in our community AMONG BLACK PEOPLE. Here is my shot: The Black community has traditionally been bound by CULTURAL PRECEDENT. For the longest you had a mother and grandmother who warned against "Shacking" and who could read the character of a "date" that you brought home the very first time they met them. Economically, prior to our forefathers moving North we worked the land. There was a...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

MBM ·
What wing of the conservative movement is driving/running the Republican party and the over-all conservative agenda today? Is it so unreasonable to question those who support a movement which at its heart does and has promoted an agenda which is directly inimical to African America's interests? If it is an African American who is supporting that same Anti African American Agenda, then is it wrong to attempt to better understand that? A tree hugger is out to save a tree and the environment. A...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Guest ·
Yemaya: Please note - I am not a "conservative". The labels "liberal" and "conservative" are contextual. I prioritize the value of CULTURE in shaping the ideas of the people and go a long way to translate what are "common goals" in their minds into PHYSICAL REPRESENTATIONS. It is FOOLISH for anyone to support of oppose something simply because it is "liberal" or "conservative". I choose to use REAL WORLD EVIDENCE on the impact of various policies. I support policies that produce favorable...
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Re: For Black Conservatives

Empty Purnata ·
You know what comes to mind when I think of Black Neocons? STOCKHOLM SYNDROME http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Black Neocons can quite easily and clearly see that the White Man has/is raping our people (in more ways than just physically). They see the power that the White Establishment has over our people, and they internally conclude that they are inferior. They then conclude that the best way to get out of the situation is not to fight against the System, instead, they seek...
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Re: Feminism vs. Womanism

Yemaya ·
Exactly Empty Purnata! This is what makes the whole feminism movement so unattractive to African American women. They simply can't relate at any level to the experiences of sistas. We are the daughters of women who had to work everyday, who were forced to be the mothers through Paramour Rights and who were the objects of de-humanization. They are the daughters of of the white women who sat on their butts while our mothers and grandmothers served them and took care of their homes. There is...
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Re: Feminism vs. Womanism

kresge ·
The wiki piece really should be treated as a stub because it gives a rather poor understanding of womanism as it relates to feminism, particularly in the context of Walker's text. For Walker, womanism includes feminism. She says that womanism is to feminism as purple is to lavender. Purple is the larger category to which lavender belongs. The piece also does not address the argument put forth by Patricia Hill Collins in Black Feminist Thought: Knowledge, Consciousness, and the Politics of...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146 By George Esiri 2 hours, 2 minutes ago ONITSHA, Nigeria (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. ADVERTISEMENT Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Yemaya ·
I enjoyed the first panel as well Faheem. I'm hoping that other established black organizations will adopt this covenant plan into their mission statements. I also know that Tavis has his own organization, but I wish that he would talk to the various groups that were at the Millions More Movement. I think that they have quite a bit to talk about.
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Nmaginate ·
Well, I have to credit Tavis Smiley for both taking this Convenant "Movement" through the Black Church, given its historic role in our Community, while at the same time supporting a Black Institution. Complaints about the size of the venue, as they are, should take that into account. He could easily generate [extra] revenue for some "White" hotel by having the panels in a hotel ballroom or some "White" auditorium. I think the disrespect was mutual. Farrkhan not only "broke from the script"...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

EbonyRose ·
Well, two things I add to this is, one, here in Houston, as Kresge has already stated, there are Black megachurches capable of holding a larger number of people than the venue it was held in. I would surmise that St. Agnes Church was picked because it is probably the biggest one in Sheila Jackson-Lee's district. I'm not sure about that, but that's just my guess. Also of note, the hotel where the bunch was staying was at least 40+ miles from where the church was, in an upscale suburb of the...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

Nmaginate ·
I agree. I think both Mr. B and Cornell West rushed to pigeon-hole Farrakhan's comments which, while I thought they were a bit out of place, I didn't see them as substantively that far from the core attitude behind the Convenant Movement. There's an overriding sense and emphasis on self-help in both. Cornell West definitely wanted to act like Farrakhan was talking about a "separatist" nation or something. Maybe I took that wrong but that seems like where he was trying to take it to. And I...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

Nmaginate ·
Thank you... I'm trying to understand the Super-Negro thingy... Here it is, a whole symposium dedicated to how we can [better] "help ourselves" (because in some ways we aren't), but this Noble Negro Notion of Saving America, if not the world, becomes a counterpoint to suggestions that we "govern ourselves" - focus on administering directly to our needs and not relying on others to do so? You have got to be kidding me... At the very least, after Katrina, a FEMA like Ministry of Emergency...
 
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