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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
I am a Christian, I am heterosexual, I think gays should be allowed to marry, I think women have the right of choice and affirmative action is desparately needed because children are still being left behind. Law in the USA is not about morality it is about power and money. It was law that enslaved my ancestors using the Christian Bible, it was law that separated the races under Jim Crow using the Christian Bible , it was law that cause the police to sick dogs on citizens because they were...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

James Wesley Chester ·
He, like many other educational scholars are interested in discovering what is preventing Black students from excelling in academic environments, and more importantly, identifying with academic excellence.---Rowe I read your last post. It is incredible that a school, with primary administration by African American-Americans, would not actively encourage all students to take what used to be called 'the academic' (college preparatory) course. The words that would set off the few African...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ZAKAR ·
ALL THIS GOES BACK TO KNOWLEDGE OF SELF, IF WE REALIZE WE ARE AFRICAN PEOPLE AND APART OF THE GLOBAL AFRICAN COMMUNITY WE CAN SEE THAT WE COME IN ALL SHADES AND TEXTURES. SEEMS TO ME SOME BLACK PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY ARE ALL PRO BLACK AND REVOLUTIONARY, BUT DEEP DOWN HARBOR RESENTMENT FOR BLACK PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY DARKSKINNED BLACK PEOPLE WITH STRONG FEATURES. IT GOES BACK TO "WILLY LYNCH". MANY LIGHTSKINNED BROTHERS AND SISTAS SUFFER TOO,BECAUSE OF THEIR LIGHTSKINNED FEATURES PEOPLE WOULD...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
No, ddouble... I wasn't giving a justification.... for me there are two separate emotions being expressed..... Let me try to explain a bit further..... Do these women enjoy the criminal lifestyle? No.... These women could give a lecture on it that would give inspiration to others to leave it...... --- But, the contradiction is....seemingly... any way.... that in their personal choices.... they choose men sometimes that go against the grain of everything they espouse..... When discussed......
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Re: MLK's dream isnt working, so why start a fight over it.

Kevin41 ·
yeah and southern inbreds still attack lonely blacks on back roads and lynch and drag them to pieces, so what is your point? remember who started all of this schit......and no i'm not condoning anything...but as Faheem stated...every action brings about a reaction.....ask yourself how did big cities get to be bastions of poverty for nothing but blacks and mexicans...kinda ironic huh? once again...there is not jack schit particular to black people...i can take you some places here in cally...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
Melesi, sorry I did not get back to this sooner, what can I say, I was on trial and got distracted. Suffice it to say, I cannot stand next to Dick Cheney [whatever the spelling is] because he is a racist that calls himself a Christian like Bush and I cannot agree with what they have done in the name of Jesus or my God. The God that I pray to clearly is not whom they pray to yet we both use the term Christian.
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Re: Suicide Prevention

Frenchy ·
Medication and counseling are not affordable for a signifcant number of people sufferring from depression. The nature of the disease makes it difficult to work (which cuts down on income and many people do not have any form of medical insurance), leave the house, go to the doctor, etc. Furthermore, getting good help is often like a fulltime job. One has to be vigilant about the type of medication that is prescribed and when the dosage needs to be changed or a new medication prescribed, the...
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Re: Suicide Prevention

HonestBrother ·
What you say is true, Frenchy... but I would rather people seek professional help/medication and be frustrated than not seek it at all... I could be wrong, but I think it likely that among African Americans, the majority of us probably don't seek help at all. Like Len says, the cost is not prohibitive with the right HMO. Yes... there are people who aren't helped by the system but I'm one of those people who were. It can work. But not over night...
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Re: Do you think this is funny?

Texas Star ·
I wonder if there were any black people in the audience. I would think the #1 reason is the lynch mob waiting outside.
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Re: The Crisis of African American Motherhood?

Frenchy ·
Half of Black men are unemployed and almost 30% are in prison, but the only advice given is that women should take better advantage of contraceptives and abortions?! Is that a joke?? But "it's not about placing blame," right? I've yet to see a single man say anything to the high number of total wastes of space running around knocking up women left and right. But everybody and their mama has something to say about what sistas should do. Shut up. And some women fall right into that trap and...
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Re: The Crisis of African American Motherhood?

HonestBrother ·
This is complete UNREASONING insanity .... So things are that bleak? So women bear the majority of the burden?... Everyone knows the statistics... right? Then do what a * rational * person does, stop BITCHING... And take responsibility for your own fucking health! How many times does have to be said that it's not absolving men of responsibility by asking women what they can do to help address these problems???... Frenchy, get the cotton out of your ears
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Re: The Crisis of African American Motherhood?

calvin ·
I don't think this is about victim blaming or blaming perion. Let's be realistic for a second...Is it too much for a woman to ask a man if he has any kids, does he take care of his kids, how, does he have a legal job, what are his career goals, did he graduate from High School? I think these few questions will allow many women the ability to sort out the majority of potential dead beats off the back. It is not fair that women should have to accept the majority of the pressure when it comes...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

blaqfist ·
Most of the articles writers claims are just as spurious as the Willie Lynch Letter.. Maybe willie Lynch was real, maybe he wasn't.. The issue of the Willie Lynch Letter is bigger then that. You don't think slave masters, politicians, mayors, ect.., never got together and plotted on ways to keep us slaves? How to keep blacks in perpetual bondage was the real meaning behind the letter
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

whatzgoingon ·
I don't think the author was refuting the message behind the Willie Lynch letter, just that the actual document or person was probably ficticious.
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

Nmaginate ·
To me, the name alone was spurious. Willie LYNCH, how convenient. Anyway... There resounding evidence that very deliberate measures, although perhaps subjects of contentious "public" debate, that were made about what to do with slaves and how not to upset the slavery "equilibrim". The decision and laws against teaching enslaved Africans to read as well as when and to what extent to teach them Christianity and the Bible are prime examples. Like the Willie Lynch thing, those were things that...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

Our Empowerment ·
Willie Lynch is as real as Uncle Ben, Aunt Jeamaina (sp), Col. Sanders, Ronald McDonal, Micky Mouss, and especially Uncle Sam. They all have effected your life, they all have impact on your life to some degree or another. Just because you deny it's existance, does not free you of it's grip. > ... its time for Prosperity > > > An African American Board Game Of Wealth & Success.
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Re: R.Kelly compares himself to Osama

henry38 ·
Yssys I think you are missing the point. No one is forgiving or excusing anybody. The point is a person is INNOCENT until proven guilty. Until that day he is innocent and should be treated as such, especially by his own people. What is wrong is for fellow blacks to act as a lynch mob without the accused having his or her day in court, that is the point. _____________________________ Is it just talk or are you for solutions? If you are GENUINELY interested in solving black problems? Then join...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

Our Empowerment ·
Just thougt you might want the unabridged version, instead of just the reviews. > ... its time for Prosperity > > > [This message was edited by Our Empowerment on October 09, 2003 at 02:44 AM.]
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

James Wesley Chester ·
I thought "Willie Lynch" was real. I first saw the "alleged" account of his visit and his advise in 5th Edition of "Before the Mayflower" by Lerone Bennett. Until the piece by William Jelani Cobb, I had never seen anything refuting the account. I have no more basis for challenging Cobb than I had for challenging Bennett. The philosophy is so very much on target. It told/tells me what I know is true. It gave flesh to the skeleton of the bondage of my people. We know there was a plan. How it...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

sunnubian ·
I don't know if it was "Willie" Lynch, but I have read the quotes of this Lynch person or character in a book once (I have "Before the Mayflower" also, but its loned out right now) -anyway, what he is quoted as saying was basically that the psychological game of divide and conquer must be played on the Africans in order to insure that they would never have any common loyalty to one another: "pit the house slave against the field slave" ---I just wanted to recognize your post...I am going to...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

James Wesley Chester ·
I am stilling leaning toward Lynch being real as well. For two reasons. First: It has been 40 years since Bennett documented the event. In the interim, I have heard no one challenge the validity of the research. And yet, I've heard, and seen it the event cited by speakers and writers alike. Second: While Lerone Bennett is fallible, he is also recognized as a reputable researcher, so much so he frequently enrages the "establishment" historians with his due diligence. They don't consider him...
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Re: How many thought Willie Lynch was real?

sunnubian ·
I found this at http://www.freemaninstitute.com/lynch.htm along with a lot of commentary disputing it as not being real or his not being a real person Willie Lynch Speech The following is courtesy of The Freeman Institute and has been credited to William Lynch, a White slave owner, who reportedly made the speech on the banks of the James River in 1712. We substituted the word "BLACK" for the more degrading word that was used. This speech and additional material is on this web site not to...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Kweli4Real ·
The shame is she will not receive favorable hearing from this administration, seeing as they are also hell bent on reducing VA benefits. BTW, now J Lynch has a made for TV movie out, "Saving Pvt. Lynch."
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Kweli4Real ·
LMBAO, Faheem. NO FAHEEM!!! You have it mistaken. It wasn't Lynch's White skin that accounts for the difference in treatment, it was her blonde hair. In the continuing effort to feed the sheep, uhm, provide the American public with fair and balanced reporting of our progress in this war against terrorist aggression, we had to pick someone to highlight. And, everybody knows that blonde hair looks better on camera than those Knaps Johnson was sporting. So, we picked Lynch. And, we couldn't...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

EbonyRose ·
LOL! Y'all are really funny! I found this version of this story where apparently the Army returned the call and gave their response to this situation. Family Says Army Shortchanging Former POW By CHRIS ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer EL PASO, Texas - The father of former prisoner of war Shoshana Johnson on Friday accused the Army of shortchanging his daughter of disability benefits after she was offered a smaller paycheck than fellow POW Jessica Lynch. "She is not getting what she...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Guest ·
Do they really think that American people are ignorant and just can't add? Jessica Lynch got 80% disability benefit and a million dollar movie contract, she made out like a fat rat! This Major Stover better stop being a stooge because Jessica Lynch was indeed given a discharge, how else can she get the 80% disability if she's still in service! She can't work if she's that disabled! Duh. Shoshanna Johnson should take this to the congressional court. And of course Lynch can say nice things...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Guest ·
I think that they should get 100% disability for right now, until there has been a further assessment on their injuries and at that time their injuries should be assessed again and pro-rated. But for the military to just summarily dismiss one at 30% and the other at 80% at this time is just wrong. I would imagine that Shoshanna Johnson's injuries are more extensive for the following reasons: Shoshanna has a young daughter, (can you just imagine the psychological torture of having to worry...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Kweli4Real ·
To me the biggest puzzle in the J Lynch matter is, with all the coverage she's receiving, why is the media completely devoid of any interviews with the other soldiers that were with Lynch? I mean, look at the coverage of any tragedy - the media talks to any and everyone remotely connected to the incident. I have yet to see anything other than military press releases, uhm, I'm sorry, that's "embedded reports" that even mention Lynch's fellow soldiers.
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
On "Lynching Song" Onwucheka Jemie Most lynchings are for rape. But it is common knowledge that in the South it is extremely rare that a black man has actually raped or attempted to rape a white woman. In the South, sexual contact between black men and white women, from slavery times to the present, has almost always been initiated by the white woman. And every black man in the South knows that if he is unlucky enough to become the object of a white woman's affections, he must leave town or...
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Re: Bush Spit Cost Us

EbonyRose ·
He did that because he wants to show that even in a country where two soldiers, one an Army Specialist who is shot through both legs in the line of duty, held in captivity longer than the other, is being summarily discharged with a 30% disability benefit, and is a Black woman (Ms. Shoshana Johnson) and another who is merely a Private who suffered no gunshot wounds, was held 10 days less than her fellow comrad, and is a White woman, yet receives a better compensation package, better discharge...
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Re: Michael Jackson: Pedophile?

Kevin41 ·
henry38, One would think that you would not have to even explain that to some of these idiots in here, but they are so self-loathing they do not understand....some of the same people in here who rail on MJ's dealings with whites seek out poor uneducated racist whites in talk forums themselves to castigate their own.....while living in conditions that are a direct result of the conservative pro-white policies they support. And the way some of these negroes jump on the bandwagon everytime a...
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Re: Michael Jackson's legal problems:Where does the Black woman weigh in?

Prophetessofrage ·
VOX stilled SEARED from the last beatin' eh? Well, here's some SCARRING words that you FORGOT to imitate.... Hi My sisters, long time no hear from (on this board) eh? At any rate, the reason I'm writing you is because of a incident I recently experienced. A stalker by the name of VOX reminded me of how dangerous are the times we live in. It seems a girl can't post a heartfelt feeling without a BLACK MALE jumping up being the FIRST to denigrate her. Well, that's what this VOX handle character...
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Re: Michael Jackson's legal problems:Where does the Black woman weigh in?

IMMORTAL LOGIC ·
PROPHETESS OF RAGE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!! I've researched her words thoroughly on the whole african mother/african father thing and discovered she's correct for the most part, and HERE'S THE PROOF. There actually is an african father seen here but he does'nt actually have sons or daughters but is in fact assisted by a magic patriarchical unicorn named "Earl" and 2 chauvinistic robots named "larry 3.0" and "Compu-stud 3000" And it is through these two robots that the african father and "Earl"...
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Re: Michael Jackson's legal problems:Where does the Black woman weigh in?

RadioRaheem ·
LOL *********************************************************** 'Sometimes life is obscene' - Black Crowes Commerical Hall of Fame - All time list 'Who in the hell left the gate open???' 'Somebody put roots on me' 'I've fallen, and I can't give up!!!'
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Re: Rush Limbaugh is back...lock your medicine cabinets.

Kevin41 ·
I don't think many in here give a f-k about Rush in the first place......we know how his fat racst azz feels about blacks...and this thread was started to show the bullshit hypocrisy of him and his hick azz inbred thinking followers......the rest of that bs is just being imposed in here like someone really gives a damn. many many whites in this country suffer from cognitive dissonance....where no matter what in the hell they do, they put a spin on it where it is no big deal (hence the term...
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Re: Rush Limbaugh is back...lock your medicine cabinets.

shebakoby ·
LOL "white lie" has NOTHING to do with white "race"! What makes you think Rush is racist? How hard is it for you to UNDERSTAND THE F***ING DIFFERENCE between being addicted to painkillers, and being addicted to RECREATIONAL drugs???!!! "You liberals with your conspiracy theories are starting to sound like your own version of the John Birch Society "-Rush Limbaugh
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Re: Black MEN versus Colored boys what's the difference?

Prophetessofrage ·
The True Tale of White Melesi & her little colored boys; Hi Black women, especially you new young black women coming in. I know you are aghast at the 'ministrel show' being performed by the colored boy types who are by and large Ward Connelly, Clarence Thomas colored Republicans. Oh, and they are all professed born-again Christians. They are fighting on behalf of the central figure, MELESI the WHITE GIRL. See, Melesi has had a nervous breakdown right before all the internet world to...
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Re: CONSPIRACIES

Nmaginate ·
Do you honestly believe there's some active conspiracy that has "caused" all that? Black people have brought all of that on themselves. You can't blame White people or "The Man" for those things. It's Black people's fault. There are no secret club or handshakes going on. No group of White people are snickering as they rub their hands saying, "Everything is going according to plan!" Just like Willie Lynch is a MYTH, "The Man" is a myth too! Black people need to stop trying to blame their...
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Re: CONSPIRACIES

blaqfist ·
I would not call Willie Lynch a myth.. It is more of a folktale. Folktales, though not historically acurrate hold truths in them..
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Solomonic ·
The self-defense argument presupposes the rednecks coming to lynch you in the middle of the night. But, it was not about trying to reason with some gun-toting peckerwood on a deserted road ˜round midnight. MLK's movement was a carefully orchestrated, strategically planned, endeavor executed using non-violence as a tactic and the media as to broadcast this dramatizing of the inhumane treatment blacks were subjected to. Sit-ins and boycotts were planned at times when they would inflict the...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Faheem ·
I am aware that to sit in a restaurant and allow someone to beat, you, spit on you and spray you with water hoses require some discipline but how does such discipline become self discipline, something we are in more need of today than ever in our history. How did allowing ourselves to be brutalized in hopes of appealing to the morality of the most immoral people on the earth give us any discipline. Yes, it eventually convinced them that treating us like that was wrong but it also said to...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

Knoweldgeseeker ·
Wow, this is another interesting topic! To be honest with you reading the responses show a direct connection to the problem facing black families. This can be traced back to the gender war waged by white women and joined by black women. It seems to me we are more concerned about degrees and economic status rather than building strong healthy families. I mean statistics can be skewed anyway you want them. I read one that showed a black family with both parents with master's degrees or better...
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Re: Michael Jackson: Pedophile?

Kevin41 ·
I feel ya Norland but once MJ was 18, he was calling his own shots....so parents couldn't stop him from doing whatever he wanted to. this is not about MJ but about how high-profile blacks are treated in particular where an accusation becomes fact. The racist white media does it enough and now they are being aided by their subordinate house-pet negroes. I don't give a flying f-k about MJ or anyone else for that matter, but they are supposed to be given the benefit of the doubt until PROVEN...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

EgbertSouse ·
Lynch is the better-looking one...
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Re: Former POW Shoshana Johnson leaves Army

James Wesley Chester ·
Before the other soldier who saved everybody's butt spoke up, the media being fed bogus and otherwise wrong information by the Army had all but elevated Lynch to sainthood. The difference in the disability status seems to be injured "white" female flesh versus injured African American-American flesh. Maybe there's a scale somewhere for differentiating disability eligibility. If so, why wouldn't they just "whip it out?" PEACE Jim Chester You are who you say you are. Your children are who you...
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Re: Former POW Shoshana Johnson leaves Army

Nmaginate ·
KEVIN, The pretense is that Lynch's injuries were more extensive - i.e. more broken bones (I guess). At least that's what I gathered from the other forum I referred to. But that was a debate with an actual White person and not just a White defender... Then, while in the midst of that debate, the "story" of Lynch's "RAPE" came out.... so you know where that went with him [Mr. White Poster]... before that he could only find solice in the idea that Lynch may never be able to walk again. That's...
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Re: sistas, do you believe that black women worrying about who black men date aids in our own oppression

Knowledgeseeker ·
I wonder sometimes if black women really wanted to be like white women? I mean if you look at most of our sistas, you have to wonder, what in the hell are you trying to prove?, reminds me of this brother out now call Jamar, he called these types of sistas , "the daughters of willie Lynch" "I AM BECAUSE WE ARE"
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Re: sistas, do you believe that black women worrying about who black men date aids in our own oppression

GinaMarni ·
I think you better worry more about black men that leave their sons than a black woman that wants her hair to be more MANAGEABLE.. DON'T YOU HAVE A TICKET TO AFRICA... BYE!!!
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Re: sistas, do you believe that black women worrying about who black men date aids in our own oppression

GinaMarni ·
The willie lynch letters are fakes, first of all. Second of all, nothing in them is anything new. But You guys keep referring to this whole slave/master relationship like you really believe sisters are gonna be on their knees getting the shit knocked out of them by white men if they don't stay with the brothers (LOL). I'm sure the image is enough to get you worked up, but as long as we are talking about the real world here, AND WE ARE, exactly how many sisters as myself and mseis....do you...
 
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