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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

MBM ·
Respectfully, personally, I could care less about the Catholic Church as it relates to this issue. My interest in it and the pope are limited to the words that we're discussing. I am not attacking or even questioning Catholic dogma or personalities here. I just thought that the quote was provocative and wanted to hear what other folks thought about it. To clarify - we're talking about human beings. Although humans may have life before and after their Earthly experience, that's all we're...
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Re: Ford, black leaders at odds over Alito

Kevin41 ·
NAACP chairman compares GOP to Nazis Bond delivers blistering partisan speech in North Carolina -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 2, 2006 1:00 p.m. Eastern © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Julian Bond Civil rights activist and NAACP Chairman Julian Bond delivered a blistering partisan speech at Fayetteville State University in North Carolina last night, equating the Republican Party with the Nazi Party and characterizing Secretary of...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Empty Purnata ·
So let me get this straight, A ZYGOTE IS AS MUCH OF A HUMAN BEING AS ME? A zygote is no more a full human than skin cells. A zygote is "alive", but no more alive than a skin cell, or a hair follicle, or a tissue cell. If you think a zygote deserves the rights of a born human, then you should also extend those same rights to skin cells. Scratching your arm should be considered muder (you kill several thousand cells every time you scratch yourself). Come on folks, Romanticism should have it's...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Edna Griffin did the right thing By REKHA BASU REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published 1/26/1998 Before institutional memory has faded, and the 88-year-old's time is over, Des Moines should erect a monument to Edna Griffin. Chances are you don't know Griffin's name. No building or street carries it. Iowa schoolchildren don't learn it when they study the civil rights movement. And when lifetime Service Awards bearing the name of Martin Luther King Jr. were handed out to the governor and four...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
A comrade remembers Griffin's fight for equality By ROB BORSELLINO REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published on 2/10/2000 Word came down Tuesday that Edna Griffin was dead, and that got John Bibbs thinking. His mind wandered back to the summer of '48. He was 22, four years out of Tech High School and just back from the Navy, an experience he remembers as highly racist. "I was called nigger and everything else. I got five days in the brig for speaking up about that." Back in Des Moines, Bibbs...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Frenchy ·
Do the big fonts help?! You've misread my post completely. I didn't even address the rights of anything. So.... no one knows the answer then? If an embryo was lying on the street and a group of scientists picked it up, would it be classified as a Homo Sapien ?
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Re: Should God?

kresge ·
This is from an old post of mine in another thread with a few additions. ************************************************* As to the nature of God in the OT, check this out. Genesis 6:6 6 And the LORD was sorry that he had made humankind on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7So the LORD said, ˜I will blot out from the earth the human beings I have created"”people together with animals and creeping things and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them. Exodus 4:24-26 At...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Kevin41 ·
I wonder if CF is his son or little brother? I wonder if my spam alert disconnected the program that we thought was self-hater#1..I haven't seen a post od his...and do not get me wrong...I do not miss his azz........at all...... read this bullschit: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The (Blue) State Of The Union Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 2, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern...
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Re: 7 Police killed as they root out coca in Colombian park

Pace Tua ·
Columbia is now the second largest recipient of U.S. Military "Aid", after Iraq, as if destroying a country is somehow "aid". In 1997 US Military "Aid" to Columbia was $50 million. Two years later it was $290 million and has been growing proportionally ever since. Using the war on drugs as a pretext, the U.S. has helped destroy the homes and farms of thousands of families in Columbia. Each year the US supported Columbian government and its paramilitary groups kill thousands of people and...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

UppityNegress ·
In this day in age, yes I do think American Christians would be more "civil" about it, and considering how secular western Europe has become I'd question whether it would even make a dent outside of religious circles. Will they [Christians, esp. white] raise a fuss? Of course. Will they be super pissed? That goes without saying. Protest? Sure. Threats to actually kill other people, burn down the newspaper facility, and encourage others into suicide missions? You'll be hard pressed to find...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

Nmaginate ·
When was the last time White Christians collectively lived in comparable conditions? Under Occupation? Apparently not. There is not the same restrictions on human images in Christianity as there is in Islam, but know Christians who where angry enough with the movie The Last Tempation of Christ to call in bomb threats to theaters. And what about those good [White] Christians and their violent passions over abortions ? Now, that might not be over the not-so sacred Christian symbols and images...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

UppityNegress ·
I suppose that argument would have some merit in Palestine, but that situation isn't comparable to what is happening in northern Europe. Muslims in Scandinavia especially are far from ocupied--hell, they willingly migrated there to escape the poverty and extremism of their own countries! Having lived in the area for a brief period, I can say that while there is racism (or perhaps more accurately, culturism) in places like Denmark and Sweden, the Muslims there are segregated from mainstream...
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

ZAKAR ·
I submit to you Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, are no good for black people, Clinton under his administration locked up more african americans then any of the previous presidents.He has great carisma he has a little southern style but the substance was definitely lacking. A lot of the dot com money that was gained under clinton was started before he took office. Im neither demorcrat or republican.One takes us for granted the other just takes us. Black people kill me, how they bow down to...
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

MidLifeMan ·
Sharpton Slams Blacks for Blindly Supporting Clinton, Democrats By Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer July 29, 2005 Washington (CNSNews.com) - Former Democratic presidential candidate Al Sharpton blasted blacks Thursday for what he described as their blind support of the Democratic Party without demanding anything in return. Sharpton, during his remarks at the National Urban League's annual conference in Washington, noted that his fellow Democrats, including former President Bill...
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Re: RU486

Frenchy ·
I remember there being a big outcry about RU486 here. The perception is that you just pop a pill and that's that, which is far from the truth . I believe you can get the RU486 combination from any doctor who can establish how far along you are and treat you if something goes wrong, which is pretty dodgy. I don't think the demand for it is very strong here. I think surgical abortions are much safer and much more reliable and less stressful/traumatic on the woman.
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Re: RU486

Frenchy ·
I'm a bit surprised by this. The RU486 combination of drugs requires the woman to see a doctor for 3 separate visits, as opposed to one visit for a surgical abortion, it's not as effective as the surgical procedure, and the side-effects are much more severe and longer-lasting. Seems like it would be much more difficult for women who live in remote areas. Much applause that the counseling aspect of abortion isn't being ignored, though. And certainly women should have as many options on the...
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Re: RU486

FireFly ·
I'm wondering why you think RU486 is not as effective as a surgical procedure? Do you mean a successful abortion or you mean health-wise. I think it's the lack of access to GP's who can/will perform the surgical procedure itself. I agree, having the most number of options is the ideal. A balanced approach to counselling is a priority. Thankfully I can't comment from personal experience on the full procedure our abortion clinics here. I had a tubal ligation so my contraception is quite...
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

Empty Purnata ·
Thanks! I'm not so much concerned for myself, I'm concerned for my two younger siblings who are still in grade school. This religious mania is puting a strain on my parents' marriage (I've even heard them treaten to divorce, and they've had 4-hour long arguments several times) and they do it RIGHT SMACK DAB IN FRONT OF MY YOUNGER SIBLINGS. My little sister who used to get upset about it, now just sits there unphased even when my mom gets in my dad's face. AS A 19-YEAR OLD ADULT, TO SEE A...
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Re: ECA Stack

bigddouble ·
ECA is/was (I'll explain shortly) a time-tested weight loss aid. Ephedra (the herb) and Ephedrine HCL (the manufactured chemical counterpart) is a bronchodialator (used an asthma medication) & thermogenic. It raises your heart & metabolic rate. Some people are prone to feel "wired" when using. It's legal status is fuzzy; The FDA pulled it, but recent court rulings have declared it's removal from the market illegal. You can still find it - I'll give you a link later. Caffeine is also...
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Re: The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on.

Nmaginate ·
Friendly fire? (or whatever that expression is) So, a service man who happens to kill a fellow service man, unintentionally and/or by some form of neglect, is "the enemy"?? I think the idea calls for distinction instead of lumping every "killer" into one group. That's not even done by our Crim. Justice system. There are always grades and degrees, although I can acknowledge that an argument can be made for drug dealer, etc. or whomever would be viewed as "The Internal Enemy" of Black People...
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Re: Discribe posters as a Drink

Frenchy ·
Why is that? My List: MBM - Martini, very dry with a twist . So much like James Bond, disappearing from the board for awhile and then returning with something sleek to say. And I don't even think I've seen you lose your cool. Such a mystery. Sandye - Cosmopolitan . Always mellow and sophisticated. Audio Guy - Pina Colada . Tropical, sweet, and somehow both damn fresh and traditional. kresge - Diesel (1/2 pint Lager, 1/2 pint Cider). Doesn't fit neatly into any particular category, but...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Scalder ·
Right On what James Westley Chester said.....we don't owe america a damned thing --- PERIOD ! Now let's see heah......first you invade my house, rape my daughters, kill me parents and put a gun to my head and a boot to my neck and make me serve you for hundreds of years....then you finally decide to 'let me up' So Now I OWE YOU ??? SHIIIITTTTTT
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Re: Are Sports & Music the Only Options for Black Children?

Lamp ·
I agree with you on this.. Nothing wrong with having a backup plan. I'm not trying to kill anyone's dream.. But we have to be realistic with our kids and say that is fine and dandy but what are you going to do if it does not work out?? So I agree with what I think you are saying
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Re: Are Sports & Music the Only Options for Black Children?

Vox ·
We're on the same page. My main point was that we tend to gloom-and-doomify every think that black people do, but sometimes what we do is not bad, or wrong. To me, though, there's not much I like to see more than a black child with a dream, and some honest effort at making it come true. I would like to see more black kids want to be scientists, doctors, etc., but the point is, if the kids are getting opportunities and education, I don't care if 100% of our kids want to be athletes. As long...
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Re: Jerry Rice vs. Michael Jordan

Black Viking ·
Sorry folks... I should have put all this in the original post. Now you can make an informed decision... ------------------------------------------------ Michael Jordan *Five-time NBA Most Valuable Player (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98) *Ten-time All-NBA First Team selection (1986-87 to 1992-93, 1995-96 to 1997-98) *Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History" *A member of six Chicago Bulls NBA championship teams (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96,...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146 By George Esiri 2 hours, 2 minutes ago ONITSHA, Nigeria (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. ADVERTISEMENT Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their...
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Re: Discribe posters as a Drink

Khalliqa ·
May I ask what about: 1. TrueEssence 2. Yemaya 3. Diamond 4. DivineJoy 5. Melesi 6. ZAKAR 7. Sunnubian 8. Nikcara 9. Little Minx 10. tru2urself16 11. Blacksanction 12. Glow 13. Clare 14. detroit1 15. Fagunwa 16. Who can forget-- Ironhorse/Corinthian 17. Heavenly_Body 77 18. Sweetwuzzy 19. Kai.... Again I don't drink.... So what do you think? (no rhyme intended) Peace, Virtue
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Re: I Finished High School!

donna529 ·
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS OF JUST GETTING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. IT WAS JUNE 19--, OOPS NEVER MIND. HOPE GOD BLESSES YOU WELL IN ALL THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Melesi ·
A pity that you don't remember that we killed Malcolm X ourselves. What color was Talmadge Hayer? Malcolm had said that the Nation of Islam was out to kill him, and perhaps you saw the documentary on his life, "Brother Minister"? It included a secret recording of Louis Farrakhan saying that if they, the NOI, killed Malcolm, that wasn't anybody elese's business. So you're saying that Malcolm died for us even though we did the killing? You're substituting one Savior for another while...
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Re: The Left Hand of God

HonestBrother ·
Well didn't the Jews kill Jesus - or at least advocate for his death? Jesus was a Jew you know? And no I'm not substituting one saviour for another. Perhaps what I'm actually doing is questioning the entire notion - or supposed function - of a "saviour"
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Melesi ·
The Jews did not have the authority to kill Jesus. That's why they took him to the Roman Pilate. Ok, so no savior. Then why bring up Malcolm X?
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Re: The Left Hand of God

HonestBrother ·
and note that I added "or at least advocated for his death"
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Re: Babies having babies

tru2urself16 ·
I believe that they are between the ages of 16 and 19, although the oldest is 29 or 30. Faheem: I understand that nationally the teenage pregnancy rate may be down, but in my community it has risen too high for comfort. I brought this subject up because I looked around and saw the situation that was going on around me and couldn't help but wonder if it was just bad around my community or if you guys had seen this same thing happening. Gambit: I agree that it is the teenagers responsiblity to...
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Re: I'd like to meet a nurse

HonestBrother ·
If you can do all that, then why can't you pay the membership fee on an internet dating site? PS: I'm a nurse... Come out and see me some time ... wanna play doctor?
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Melesi ·
oshun, Please read what I wrote. I did not say that Greece got nothing from Egypt. Of course it did. The Greeks even said so, and that is still in the history of Greece. I first read that a long time ago in one of those huge Time-Life coffee-table picture books of Greece. So please do not say that whites "edit out" that information to keep it from everybody. I learned it from whites themselves. Besides, that's not my point. My point is twofold: 1. The Greeks were good enough thinkers to have...
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Re: The Dual Theology Heresy of John Hagee!!!

BOMANI ·
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hagee.htm JOHN HAGEE Who is this Man? JOHN HAGEE IN CHARISMATIC ORBIT- Dr. John Hagee is a bestselling author and pastor of the 17,000-member charismatic Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. He was an NRB '98 speaker and has an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University. He is pictured in the 8/00 Charisma-along with Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, and Kenneth Copeland-as a speaker for Creflo Dollar's International Covenant Ministries...
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Re: Vitamin B12 For Folobatuyi

folobatuyi ·
Well, Virtue, being a doctor, I am not sure that the teaching on nutrition in medical schools are slanted by the meat industry...but I tend to go with things that are well-documented and time-tested scientifically. AS you posted, the sources and the roles of vitamin B12 in the human body is well known and documented. It is found only in animal sources of food and it is neccessary for normal formation of all cells including red blood cells and white blood cells. Thankfully, it is stored in...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Oshun Auset ·
It was renamed for Alexander the horrible AFTER he invaded Egypt. What was the name of it before Alexander the barbarian entered the land of KMT and played dress up as pharoah?(noticed he liked to take on the Egyptian culture as his own because he admired and covetted it so.) Read the other books I mentioned. It they will clown all of your Euro-centric outlook with facts, from this post and others. I don't want to and won't take the time to post info from books I read when I was 19 yrs old...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Melesi ·
Come, Oshun, you can do better than that. Your response was like the description some years back of those who, when accused of killing three men and a dog, would triumphantly produce the dog alive. As you well know, Alexandria was built near an old fishing village called Rhakotis, a nondescript place with nothing to recommend it. Alexandria eventually grew to cover it, but Alexandria was built there, not because there was anything about the village worth preserving or imitating, but because...
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Re: 16 Blocks

Khalliqa ·
I LOVE MOS DEF!!!! I think he's an excellent actor..... Hmmm... what's that movie where he played a doctor who was discriminated against at Hopkins? At any rate.... that's where my favorite performance from him exists.... But his performance in that movie (LAWD I can't remember names today???!!!!)..... with the Italian Coopers..... He said this line" I had a bad experience...." Was funny..... Okay.... rambling over.... But hopefully I'll get a chance to check out this movie.... Peace, Virtue
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Re: 16 Blocks

AudioGuy ·
"Something the Lord Made""The Italian Job"
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

umbrarchist ·
When I said: I didn't mean for everyone else to take a break. The entries to this thread have gone like this: Feb 15 = 4 Feb 16 = 18 Feb 17 = 5 Feb 18 = 2 Feb 19 = 1 Feb 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, Mar 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 = ZERO So when I defend my list and correct the impression that people seem to have inferred that the list was complete, the thread comes to a grinding halt. I decided to let it go for two weeks while I typed some excerpts from Black Men: Obsolete, Single,...
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Re: Albinism: The "Bleached" Uncolor {Revisee}

Philippe ·
The need for blood is a natural condition of the albino people with his many diseases, he needs blood to keep his race alive. Hemophilia is a form of Vampirism"”The Hemophiliac is in constant need of blood. Albinos (those suffering from albinism, a disease which causes the lack of pigmentation in the cells) have to undergo a complete blood transfusion at birth. Since their blood does not contain the necessary factors for clotting or the salt necessary for reproduction; these blood...
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Re: Cruel & Unusual Punishment???

Norland ·
Who determines "legal" execution? Did God send folks here to kill people or is that an earthly thang??? Is there anywhere on this planet where people do the right thing, live in peace and tranquility regardless of what color they are and how much money they make? Where is it, 'cause I'm gettin' a passport, quick fast and in a damn hurry. Breathing's almost unbearable, cause there's almost a price to pay for doing it.
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

ZAKAR ·
you dont understand what Miseducation is? what? but you come up with all this elaborate scheme of what you think education is.Finally, let's turn to Dr. Carter G. Woodson's great book, "The Miseducation of the Negro," to get some further insights into this problem. Woodson observes, "the so-called modern education, with all its defects, however, does others so much more good than it does the Negro, because it has been worked out in conformity to the needs of those who have enslaved and...
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Re: Abortion ban

Sweetwuzzy ·
Isn't it unfair to kill a baby(or fetus) without it's permission. Why does the mother have the right to kill.
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

ZAKAR ·
I for people who are always anticipating the fall of the US. I'd be careful. You, your families, your children, all of us ARE the US. The US is not just land and government, people make up a nation and whether you feel you've been excluded or not, when the ship goes down, you go down with it. Instead of stating what many see as being the inevitable, why don't you dooms-day crier's start thinking of ways to save the ship. I paraphrase Eldridge Cleaver when I challenge you to check yourself...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Kevin41 ·
With that in mind I guess it has allot to do with the mindset of the black person involved in the "educational process"....some call it miseducation...others know it is bullschit that is outright rejected....now i concentrate of scientific issues and the social REALITIES of black folks....there is no "mis" there because it is based on reality...not rhetoric, propoganda or that other nonsense....just like I know how AA has helped blacks through RESEARCH and not OPINION...MISEDUCATED people...
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Re: Martin Lee Anderson -- Modern-Day Emmit Till

Empty Purnata ·
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2478.shtml By Saeed Shabazz Staff Writer Updated Mar 15, 2006, 12:36 pm FinalCall.com) - The family of Martin Lee Anderson, a 14-year-old who died in early January after entering a Florida boot camp for juveniles, asked that his body be exhumed for a second autopsy, according to various news reports. The family attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that Dr. Michael Baden, a New York City-based forensic pathologist who reviewed the medical...
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Re: Conjecture.....

Kevin41 ·
logic can kill a debate....like asking the blkCONS what is the logic in a black person supporting policy that helps reduce opportunity for black peolple....they hedge and duck and dodge but at that point they can only say stupid shit as a feeble attempt at justification........
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