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Re: Leaders or Followers?

BigJu ·
I honestly don't think its a problem with leadership...the think that African America has a "gap" problem. What I mean by this is that we have a age and economic "gap" problem. The young and the old don't understand one another and each group has its own set of beliefs..the same can be said about the rich and the poor. The one thing that I think people are forgetting about is that we do have one thing in common...WE ARE BLACK! Being black and in America is a struggle on a daily basis. While...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

HonestBrother ·
I loves me some Maxine Waters and Cynthia McKinney But we need to disown Harold Ford
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

HonestBrother ·
According to the Congressional Black Caucus Monitor Report Card "Grouped like dregs at the bottom of the Caucus barrel are five members whose conduct reveals them as tools for parties outside the Black community: Albert Wynn (MD) 55%, Artur Davis (AL) 40%, David Scott (GA) 35%, Sanford Bishop (GA) 32.5%, and Harold Ford Jr. (TN) 32.5. Ford was also the lowest rated congressperson in the CBC Monitor's September, 2005 Report Card (at 5%). However, perhaps looking over his shoulder at his base...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Frenchy ·
That perm-wearing famewhore knew it was a bullshit story, but he wanted his face in the news. Thousands of dollars wasted trying to find these phantom perpetrators. Tawana Brawley is just the tip of his antics. He has no integrity. He's a fucking hype man with a $300 hairdo. What kind of a man is that to get behind?? Why on Earth would I , of all people, give him a pass, HB ??? You keep throwing this around. Are these people paraplegics? Something wrong with their voices?? Their feet? If...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

MBM ·
Your powers of imagination are quite potent. I've said nor intimated nothing to infer this. In fact, I require no less than anybody else - actually probably much more since I think I can come up with an idea or two myself about things! That said, I just flat out disagree with many who complain about a lack of leadership in our community. As I've said, there are PLENTY of people who have stepped up. There are far fewer people who have stepped up to be good followers - that's my point. You may...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Norland ·
We don't need leadership, we need absolute unification of all 43 million of us so that when the next major catastrophe hits, we'll know who amongst us we'll be able to rely upon to survive, if that's possible. God, I can't stand what's going on in this world right now. There's no words to describe all this madness.
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Frenchy ·
You said the following: "We are always - seemingly - questioning/doubting/criticizing (hatin'?) our leaders, maybe we should just shut up and follow someone, anyone (within reason)." "Let's choose a thoughtful forward-thinking person and suport, suport, suport." "Let's work with her/him to craft a national strategy for us, and then march lock-step behind." I don't think I've mischaracterized your comments. You repeatedly put the bulk of the responsibility on the followers. And that's what I...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Kai ·
Peace.... I believe that the black community has witnessed the end of a very long era which was dominated by a "leader/follower" model. In this modern age of super information it is practically impossible for any person to withstand the scrutiny which comes with leadership. If there is any dirt on you, even if it is buried deep in the recesses of a hidden closet, it will come out to destroy any leader raised to the position of "Black Messiah". I do not think that we are lacking quantity, or...
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Re: Oral Tradition vs. Written

HeruStar ·
I'll say this, and then I'll let some people who really know the ins and outs of what I think society is in desperate need of... oral tradition. Raphael Saadiq has a song on his 'Ray Ray' album call 'Grown folks'. Some of the lyrics... "Help the grown folks, they need more help than the children do" (sung with Curtis Mayfield vibe) Yes the youth are the future, but we're in the growth process together. Not all 'grown' folks are wise, or knowledgeable. Should we just act like they don't...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Kai ·
Peace.... I find it interesting that people have raised he named Barack Obama, and TD Jakes as leaders when they have led nothing, yet no one has raised the name Louis Farrakhan who has demonstrated great leadership for the entire black community for the last 20 years. I think this is another reason why we will always have a hard time finding good leadership, we always fail to acknowledge the good of people who are not backed by the media machine. Perhaps we haven't figured ut yet that the...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Khalliqa ·
Leadership doesn't have to be "found"..... If it is truly leadership...... And..... It is also true...... that people are fickle..... and sometimes immature in handling what's in their midst.... they follow conjecture.... Peace, Virtue
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Kai ·
Peace.... I agree. The problem is that the natural progression of real leadership is always stifled by opposition coming from the opinion creators in the media. Yhere are those who do not wish to see the rise of real black leadership.. The direct route is closed, and heavily fortified. And so an indirect approach is needed...leaders may have to emerge who lead outside of the lime light. Indeed. Kai
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Khalliqa ·
Again.... if it is true leadership these obstacles would not thrive..... not a successful leader.... Why would I follow someone who cannot figure out how to defeat the opposition? Overtly or not.... Of course..... but again.... if it is true leadership.... then well... those who follow will know..... and if they are in the majority..... this conversation does not have to take place..... it will be understood..... and then you will have "successful" leadership...... Peace, Virtue
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Shango67 ·
I have read your thoughts about a Black state and of course, I think your outline is a great plan. However, Africans managing an entire state in this country will come with a cost. What I am saying is... Haiti, the first, only liberated and free African state / country in the western hemisphere is suffering, IMO, beause their ancestors kicked french ass all over Hispanola. Yes, I do think white folks have long term memory, especially in the case of the Haitian people. The ramifications of a...
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Re: Conspiracy, COINTELPRO & Malachi York

Kai ·
Peace... I am not familiar enough with the Dr. York case to say whether or not his trial was fair. However, I do understand that quite often in the history of this nation, the courts are given "under the table" amicus curiae briefs which help the form it's disposition against groups of blacks seeking to declare independence, or the objective to seperate from this country. I am not surprised to see the Nuwabian leader attacked, and removed like he was..Despite what those who have formed...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Kevin41 ·
With that in mind I guess it has allot to do with the mindset of the black person involved in the "educational process"....some call it miseducation...others know it is bullschit that is outright rejected....now i concentrate of scientific issues and the social REALITIES of black folks....there is no "mis" there because it is based on reality...not rhetoric, propoganda or that other nonsense....just like I know how AA has helped blacks through RESEARCH and not OPINION...MISEDUCATED people...
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Re: What About Amistad?

FireFly ·
this may be of interest... http://www.amistadamerica.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home...2EB-A55BE49C88280269 the above link has a virtual tour. The future is when history matters Welcome to AMISTAD America AMISTAD America, Inc. is a national, non-profit organization. We promote improved relationships between races and cultures by educating the public through common experiences and dialogue based on the lessons of freedom, justice perseverance, cooperation and leadership arising from the...
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Re: Martin Lee Anderson -- Modern-Day Emmit Till

Empty Purnata ·
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2478.shtml By Saeed Shabazz Staff Writer Updated Mar 15, 2006, 12:36 pm FinalCall.com) - The family of Martin Lee Anderson, a 14-year-old who died in early January after entering a Florida boot camp for juveniles, asked that his body be exhumed for a second autopsy, according to various news reports. The family attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that Dr. Michael Baden, a New York City-based forensic pathologist who reviewed the medical...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
Why are we "intellectuals" welcome only when we say things people like? Do you really believe that we are all so dumb that we only unquestioningly take the training we're given in school out into the world like good programmed droids? One day African America is going to get enough of assassinating its own brightest - we're the only damned people in the world that do this - leaving the leadership roles to the enthusiastic but often less than capable.
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Re: NAACP, Barack Obama Call for Earned Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants

xxGAMBITxx ·
When Americans are willing to work these jobs, the "illegals" will have no means to take them. And they can't get subsidized healthcare or educational benefits unless they have a social security number. The only thing "depressing" our economy is our political leadership with their stupidity.
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Re: Boortz: Rep. McKinney "looks like a ghetto slut"

Fine ·
Cynthia McKinney should take steps to sue the bastard on GP. The absence of her badge was not a precursor for the mis identification nor the name calling.... So what if she had a bad hair day, I have 'em every blue moon, her face didn't change...! And I "wish" a white person would given negative commentary on my hair or person....!
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Re: Albinism: The "Bleached" Uncolor {Revisee}

Dusty Elbow ·
Published April 1, 2006 (Photo by LISA DEJONG/Associated Press) Group's founders: Debbie Wilson (left) and Francia Malone, shown in Flint earlier this month, have co-founded the Flint Area Albinism Network. Wilson and Malone, who are black, want to shed more light on the condition. Flint group offers help to those with albinism Black women form nonprofit network to assist, educate By Rose Mary Reiz Associated Press FLINT TOWNSHIP - Strangers used to come up and ask Francia Malone's parents...
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Re: The Covenant With Black America: A Review

EbonyRose ·
Hmmmm ... coming from someone referred here by Cobb ... I can see why.
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Re: I don't mind immigration..It's the political double standard I hate!

bigman ·
it will never change it easier to kill them all than letting those people of african decent can't ya'll see what is going on in haiti american military killing there and in africa usa funding young men with guns and machetes to kill their own.
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Re: Bush to Nuke Iran?

MBM ·
Aside from the absolute lunacy of nuking anyone or anything, haven't we learned our lesson with these ridiculous (self serving) assumptions? This is just plain dumb. Are the Iranians going to greet us with open arms too?
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Re: Bush to Nuke Iran?

Black Viking ·
They just refuse to admit the obvious. Anything we blow up in that country will be rebuilt in nothing flat. Iran is literaly swimming in oil money. There is nothing we can blow up that they won't have back in short order. But, after we begin another war of unfounded aggression, we'll have the whole rest of the world on their side as well. Didn't he say the same thing about Saddam? This fucking moron can't even get his dictators straight any more. We have got to find a way to pull the plug on...
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Re: Bush to Nuke Iran?

ricardomath ·
You mean the Iranians won't greet us with open arms after we liberate them with our nukes? Those ungrateful bastards!
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Re: Howard Dean: Open Mouth, Insert Foot

keylargo ·
I don't agree with everything Dean said in the article. The problem is he is trying too hard to censor himself and is not really speaking his mind. Everytime he says what he really means, people get pissed off. That's just my opinion because I've listened to him a lot. Dean is right about the world-and not just Latin America -reacting against US policies. they don't want leadership that will support US or US-like policies. Also, Capitalism and Democracy in theory should be a positive thing.
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Re: Nationalism VS Assimilation

HonestBrother ·
Zakar, stop being a wanker... Look at what the US is doing around the world: in Haiti, in Iraq, in Afghanistan...etc. etc Point is: From a practical point of view, there aren't too many places to go to be 'independent' from white America... and that's not even considering the question of where we would go even if we were all in agreement about starting our own nation. The problem is that hard core Nationalists talk a good talk... but they almost always come up short on specifics...
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Re: Black Like GOP

keylargo ·
exactly! I'd like to know specifically what the black issues are that need to be addressed. I'd like to see a list and then line by line, I'd like us to compare the Republicans' agenda to the Democrats' agenda. Which agenda will be more suited to meet the needs of blacks? I'll start the list: Healthcare - (look at healthcare policies in the various states and look at the leadership that put those policies into place. then, look at it on a federal level) Education- (again, look at the states...
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Re: The Texas 10% Plan

leart ·
I don't know that much about it since i'm not from Texas, but as we say on the Street, "it's a trick-bag thing", designed to keep Blacks, and some other minorities further behind educationally. Here's my understanding of the 10% Plan: The top 10% of the Students in all Texas High Schools would be guaranteed entry to a "State Supported" College/University. The Fault lies in the idea that entry is to a State Supported College/University, but most of the "Top" Schools in the State and in the...
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Re: The Texas 10% Plan

leart ·
Ebony: Maybe so, but does that mean that if the first 10% (or portion thereof) decide not to attend, they will drop down to the next 10% group? But that is just one of the minor flaws that I noticed in the Program, the main one is what I mentioned before, and that was, it only gives this 10% an option (Guarantee) to attend "State Supported Schools", and I wont get any deeper into that classification at this stage, because that will open up a whole other "can of worms" that Blacks haven't...
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Re: The Crisis of African American Motherhood?

TruthSeeker ·
I think, by and large, Black women are doing the best they can for the following reasons: 1. Black men have not stepped up to meet the familial leadership roles we are supposed to hold. 2.(as to raising boys) Women (most anyway) do the best they can given that they can never raise a boy to manhood. They can certainly be the best mother they can be, but they can't take a boy to manhood. That takes a man. As much as I love my daughters, I can't teach them to be women. I can talk about what...
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Re: Become The Object Of Women's Fantasies

Kweli4Real ·
Black Viking, I think the article was mis-labeled. The 10 point plan is not about "becoming the Object of Women's Fantasies" as much as a 10 point plan toward becoming a MAN [as opposed to a grown ass, male children]. OHHHHHH, I get it. Become a man => Get the woman!!!!!
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Re: Become The Object Of Women's Fantasies

HonestBrother ·
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

MBM ·
I'm not nearly as pessimistic about African America. I'm not necessarily disputing your claim, I just believe that given the proper "invitation" and leadership, we'd see a much more mainstream embracing of Africa and Africans by black folks here.
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

Shango67 ·
Africa providing an invitation while Africans waitng for one, is going to keep this thing from happening. I don't know MBM... I am invited by Africa everyday. It is a spiritual call. Do you think the spiritual call is real and if so, can we hear it? Is the spiritual call as important as an all out media blitz? Are Africans in amerikkka hearing the call? And do they have the capacity (meaning influenced by white western religious systems) to hear the call?
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Re: States Omitting Minorities' Test Scores

Kweli4Real ·
Cano, what are you talking about? Who here has mis-read the article? Who in this thread has been critical of NCLB? Who here has ?? I realize that your sole purpose for coming to this site is to spout that Republican Talking Point Memo thing. But I'd thank you to, at the very least, attempt to tie the Talking Point to something relevent to the thread.
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Re: Gospel for the Poor by Bill Cosby

Against All Odds ·
".....talk about hospital failures in generaland include the UC Hospital liver bank that had a lot of things go wrong..and you won't come across as a sorry azz self-loathing nigga who is rotting away in the hood from hatred of his own surroundings.....do your homework.....and for once not take a look at a general issue as a black issue .....try it and see if you can leap over your hatred for blacks and do so......I'm just joking......your afflictions are too deep to correct them this late in...
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Re: III. Correcting The System of Unequal Justice

James Wesley Chester ·
I'm back. ] As a result of Section 4(a) of that law, We do not, and cannot, have control of our own vote, neither individually nor a people. The people who claim to be 'the leadership' for Americans of unknown African ancestry initiated a petition to continue the law as is...for us. In that petition they articulate the reason being that to do otherwise, i.e. petition for equal treatment, would cause Congress to challenge the constitutionality of such a request. This is a request for equal...
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Re: 9/11 - The Anniversary, The Legacy

James Wesley Chester ·
yes, I do. There is nothing to lead anyone to believe we will act to prevent it. We have sat idly by for 21 years lettng the date for the ax to fall come closer and closer. And to reinforce that indifference, we, African Americans as a group, and the Congressional Black Caucus, and all the "leadership" groups have actively put position papers out there calling the entire impending act a lie. The most recent was a letter issued just before the national convention of the NAACP, signed by...
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Re: Cheney Loses In Court (CBS News/9.12.03)

Nmaginate ·
You might start by educating me how you points in A and B even relate to each other... First _A_ you say the hydroelectric energy source - aka Nigara Falls - was fully function. Then _B_ you say there were "[too] few sources of energy on which to rely on in the first place..." I'm trying to see what your point was??? You seem to suggest that MBM thought the Niagara energy source was disrupted (though I think he was merely citing the type and location of the energy source that was the supply...
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Re: How can we get BET off the air?

soul_doctor73 ·
To Whom It May Concern: Board of Directors, President, and/or CEO of Black Entertainment Television My name is Curtis Gordon, and I am writing this letter to your company in an effort to address an issue I'd like to call your attention to. As a representative of the Black Music entertainment industry, it is of my opinion that BET share's equally in the responsibility our black musicians seem to lack. BET programs their music, show their videos, and promote their albums, all under the banner...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Here's a nice expose on Clark from the Washington Post. Clark seen as talented, testy By Vernon Loeb, The Washington Post From his plebe year at West Point, retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark was always first in his class, a step ahead of his peers. His rise to the top of the U.S. military seemed almost preordained, given his drive, intellect and burning will to win. BUT CLARK, 58, who won the Purple Heart and Silver Star in Vietnam in 1970 and commanded NATO's air war in Kosovo 29 years later,...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Yssys (Guest) ·
There is a group called "Blacks 4 Clark" already. Read this moving letter sent into the Editors at Africana.com Dear Africana Editor, In the past, African American voters were easy. All a politician had to do was deliver a tearful speech about civil rights and show that he knew at least three words of "We Shall Overcome" or "We Are Family." An on-stage wiggle (on beat or syncopated, didn't matter) was all it took to cinch the majority of the "black vote." Post-inauguration, tearful hymns...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Well, I don't know if it's a ploy or not, but unless this woman is a mouthpiece, saying what he demands her to say, I don't see what exactly is wrong with her saying it. On the other hand, it seems to me that most of the Democrats, including black democratic officials, for my entire lifetime, have been talking about a candidate doing what's best for "us," when they talk to us. But they always talk the talk without walking the walk, and I think it costs us. You say that there's hell to pay...
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Re: Who watches the Evening News about Iraq?

MBM ·
Your friend Bill O'Reilly would correctly label that post as "spin". The fact is that the Bush administration created the expectations around this war in their effort to "sell" it to the American people. The criticism that Bush gets now is in direct response to the expectations that he created. Aside from the apparent "mis-statements" that we were fed (WMDs, Iraq's link to 9/11, imminence of threat, etc.), it seems pretty obvious that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld were also extraordinary off-base in...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Yssys (Guest) ·
My gut feeling about Clark has been proven to be on point. "Can anything be more moving than the joyous throngs swarming the streets of Baghdad? Memories of the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the defeat of Milosevic in Belgrade flood back. Statues and images of Saddam are smashed and defiled. Liberation is at hand. Liberation – the powerful balm that justifies painful sacrifice, erases lingering doubt and reinforces bold actions. Already the scent of victory is in the air." – Wesley Clark, The...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Kweli4Real ·
This exchange is very informative. I don't know enough about Clark to be for or against him. However, the main question mark in my mind is his ability to negotiate the politics of the Whitehouse. From everything I've read, Clark has a stellar military background, but no "real-world" experience. In the military, a general tells you what to do (right or wrong) and you do it (unless it's illegal or immoral), or you go to jail; in the real world, it doesn't work like that. That manner of...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Clark: Americans 'embarrassed' by Bush Candidate attacks president's economic plan, Iraq strategy (CNN) --Democratic presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark has attacked President Bush's economic plan as a failure, and said the war in Iraq was "unnecessary" and lacks a way to succeed or end. Speaking after an event in Washington at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference, Clark, 58, told reporters that the American people are "really embarrassed" by the...
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