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Re: Should Black People...

AudioGuy ·
You are quite obviously mis-named... The "feedback" you have given is useless. How exactly would you propose the we do what you have imagined?? White people are not going to transfer their kids to a majority Black school under any circumstances - no matter how good the school is, that will NOT happen... What "goal" are you referring to?? Many times this is already the case, white people just refuse to believe it... If we just got BLACK people to believe what you are saying, we would not NEED...
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Re: 'No Child Left Behind' - A Thought

MBM ·
First who is Kendred Meeks. Funny that there are NO citations for that person in all of Google. Second, most schools are built with a combination of local, state, and federal funding hence your assumption that building schools somehow reduces per student funding does not necessarily apply. Third, even if per student funding decreased, lowering the teacher/student ratio in some instances might overcome the reduced funding. This is particularly the case when it is part of a planned, strategic...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
The emotions, anger, etc., etc. on the part of the many victims are indeed justifiable. Most any reasonable individual would side with the victims as opposed to the perpetrators.... the perpetrators in this instance by and large being other Black people. ....Hang them Danno!!!!! ......but Oh well, far to often that is the mark and/or legacy of our own disgraceful elected leadership, and/or that no good Black middleclass who choose to join in with, honor, and/or protect the perpetrators, even...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely, it is the Black community that is nutty, backwards, sleazy, cowardly, disloyal, and/or treasonous towards itself...... ...and since I believe in the laws of this land, I don't make any attempt to justify illegal activity. ...instead it is better served to seek redress, as opposed to asking the perpetrators why they did it. ......more important than the why, is the proving that they did. Last time I checked, more so that not, those behind bars are there, because it was proven...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Notice how they get longer as a way to be more distracting...man behavioral science is something else........ **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to become angry because of it. you understand what they are striving for as a goal, eliminate their possibility of accomplishing it...and go on about your merry day." by Kevin41 ************************************ I pay Kevin41,...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
Is anyone following the confirmation hearings? I was reading the GOP list of witnesses for Alito when I came upon this: I find it interesting that Kirsanow is a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights AND a partner in a law firm whose labor/employment law section [where he practiced] is widely known for its union-busting and aggressive, employee-hostile tactics.Kirsanow will be in the 5th panel and is a "discrimination is a thing of the past" civil rights
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
...the legacy of AA, Social Welfare, our disgraceful elected representatives, and/or that no good Black middleclass who praise them. .....and pat yourself on the back if you've distanced yourself from that inept, sleazy, worthless no good Black middleclass..... ********************************** "Former Aide's Guilty Plea Implicates Congressman Brett M. Pfeffer details conspiracy and bribery claims against Democrat William J. Jefferson. By Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writer January 12,...
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Re: No one Else Wants to be a Victim

Nmaginate ·
I was wonderin' when you were going to get tired of suckin' on Kevin's balls and when you were going to start trying to give somebody else (H-B, apparently) intense, unsolicited and numerous head jobs because you just like that suckin' sound your mouth makes. They don't call you The Greatest (SUCKA) for nothing! Hell, you're SUCKA Leadership material!! Your title is: HEAD Sucka!
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Re: Question for Kresge?

Rowe ·
The following passages are excerpts taken from author Rosemary Radford Ruether's, Sexism and Godtalk: Toward A Feminist Theology . Woman, Body, and Nature: Sexism and the Theology of Creation 1) "The establishment of this relationship between male and female spheres depends not only on males as definers of culture but also on the burdening of women with most of the tedious, day-to-day tasks of economic production. Males become a leisure class with relatively little to do but decorate...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Are you saying that Dr. Sowell said otherwise (with respect to the first phrase of your response)? Who are these people who are treating Black kids differently than these "OTHER CHILDREN"? As our public school increase their REsegregation they are more likely to sit next to other Black kids and increasingly be taught by Black teachers. I can speak from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE about how more than 20 years ago when I was in high school I had the dual roll of being in the "Rapid Track" in my high...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

MBM ·
I think the point that she was trying to make is just that the Republiocan leadership runs roughshod over anything and anyone that does not explicitly support Republican objecitves. For ecxample, seeing the extraordinary difference in how Republicans went after her husband because he lied about consensual sex versus how they turn their eyes from criminal behavior in the current Whitehouse that has contradicted the Constitution and Bill of Rights, as well as law.
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
There is no watering over her analogy, there is nothing she can say or for that matter you can say that can juxtapose rich folk and bureaucracy with the way Plantations were run. While Plantation reality contradicted parts of the constitution, local and state law were in accordance with Plantation life. Plantation realities were far more than violations of parts of the constitution and I do not believe her analogy makes sense and lessens the impact of the role of Plantation in our...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Ask an intelligent question. I'll ask you a quick one: LATENT EFFECTS? What are you calling Latent Effects and the importance or reason why they will need to be "finally", completely dissolved is... WHAT? Consider this, then get back to me (right from the Project-2019 article): Black Americans must understand that racism existed in 1619, racism exists in 2001, and racism will exist in 2099. Therefore, the critical element is the degree to which racism affects the lives, the liberties, and...
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I've made no assumptions about anyone's intelligence. I've given you possible explanations as for why some occupations are less valued than others. And though you and I may have encountered people from all walks of life who we thought were "dumb," our society still rewards people for continuing their education. Why else have many of AA.org's members (myself included) pursued advanced degrees? And before you give me the speech about how "college isn't for everyone," the fact still remains...
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Re: CF ... Be a dear and please explain ...

Noah The African ·
I am not apologizing for jax slit! I would if you posted something that warrents an apology. You have posted likely close to a millions words in your many debates on other and this forum combined. You have taken tht time to articulate in detail how you feel about black leadership...how you feel about liberalism....how you defend conservatism and bush in essays that have hurdreds of words. Yet....all you can say in regards to that photo is to say it is a powerful image? How come you could not...
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

Vox ·
I just realize I mis-wrote. It was Jimmy Carter, not Rev. Lowery, who made the reference to domestic spying. Bush was taking from all directions, wasn't he? Man, I kinda wish I could've been there.
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

Yemaya ·
I was able to catch the funeral on C-Span last night. It was one of the most beautiful funerals I have ever seen. Reverend Lowery was not the only one who made GW feel uncomfortable. I believe that GW has put himself in the position of being uncomfortable because of his tunnel vision. He truly is mostly everything negative that black people expect white leadership to be. He is the extreme negative. Basically, with the way he's treated us as a people these last few years, he got the exact...
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

kresge ·
Rowe, it basically means something that disrupts her nice neat way of experiencing the world. They are really hard to contrive or construct. Some people might refer to them as teachable moments. It can be as simple as here seeing a loving older sister who functions in the world quite well without subscribing to her beliefs. I had a fundie friend who when here husband left her and got a divorce, her church cast her out instead of being a support. What EP mentioned with respect to seeing the...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
It's actually fairly obvious what the most probable situation was. "Nigga" is an widely used slang word amongst non-racist teenagers, I know because I am a teenager. I for one do not have any trouble believing that this word is in frequent use by students in the class in question. In that case, to use the word in a mocking manner, to critique the language which is often coupled with a specific attitude, one which requires teachers to have to remind students to do simple tasks like sitting...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Here is a real work example of zero sum Toussiant. Who can forget the neocons' claim that under their leadership America creates its own reality? Remember the neocons' Iraq reality--a "cakewalk" war? After three years of combat, thousands of casualties, and cost estimated at over $1 trillion, real reality must still compete with the White House spin machine. One might think that the Iraq experience would restore sober judgement to policymakers. Alas, neocon reality has spread everywhere. It...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
I get so very tired of people suggesting that we "do away" with the educational system, offering no recommendations as to how we are to get the masses of Black children to perform academically on par with other children. These people are often the least likely to do anything about the problems they observe in our nation's education system. I understand, fully, people's gripe with the "educational system." I work within this sytem on a daily basis, but we need to grow up and accept the...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Texas Star ·
It starts: 09/08/05 "ICH" -- -- Neither the Mainstream media nor the alternative-Leftist web sites have told the true story of what really happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. For the people of the region it was the greatest natural catastrophe they'd ever faced. For the Bush administration it was just another opportunity to use fear and anarchy to advance their global agenda. The administration intentionally withheld desperately needed aid to the city to force Governor Kathleen...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Kweli4Real ·
I've got ta get faster at posting sh!t when I first find it. Someone posted an article on Fox News' website about Bush's support of the UAE deal. Linked to the story was a "Related Stor[y]" captioned "Bin Laden May have UAE Ties." The article talked about UAE being owned by the Dubai Government, one of 3 world governments that recognized the Taliban rule of Afghanastan and OBL's connection to the Taliban as well as his personal connection to the Dubai ruling family. Shortly after the post,...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Oshun Auset ·
Melesi, Aristotle was educated in the Egyptian mystery system. The Greek 'greats' all gave credit in their own works to where and from whom they attained their knowledge from. In fact they legitimized themslelves by associating themselves with the Egyptians. White supremacist re-writes/editing of history likes to leave that part out of what they teach in the mis-education system. They have to leave out the African origins to justify exploiting oppressing the very people they learned...
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Re: Bush Warned About Levees

Kweli4Real ·
I'm having a slow moment here. Are you saying that if you, as operational manager, warned your superior of a possible disaster, you would expect to be punished? I'm hoping that I mis-read that.
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

EbonyRose ·
Racial Violence Behind Bars - Time For Straight Talk Between the Black and Latino Communities By Anthony Asadullah Samad The violence that has taken place between Black and Latino inmates in the Los Angeles (and now Riverside and San Bernadino) County Jails has caused both the black and Latino communities to take inventory of their relationship. Future relations will require candor, honesty and some historical reflection that has allowed them to peacefully co-exist for 500 years. Black...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

umbrarchist ·
Look at what happened to King and Mandella. In the ideal situation no White person on the planet should know who the top Black leaders are. But our concept of leadership is a lot of loud mouthed showing off nonsense. Black people are not into totally underground stealth warfare based on cold calculation. See what the "other half" is doing: http://www.woodmann.com/fravia/realicra.htm umbrarchist
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Khalliqa ·
Love the bolded parts..... reminds me of the movie...."The Spook That Beside the Door".... However, I think all of the above mentioned are needed in some form.... Planning needs to take place behind scenes..... everyone else in the spotlight take their places..... for, against, neutral.... all have a role to play..... the problem is not the role it is the script... By the way ...... I really like the web link..... Subtlety is an art form......... Peace, Virtue
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

umbrarchist ·
When I said: I didn't mean for everyone else to take a break. The entries to this thread have gone like this: Feb 15 = 4 Feb 16 = 18 Feb 17 = 5 Feb 18 = 2 Feb 19 = 1 Feb 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, Mar 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 = ZERO So when I defend my list and correct the impression that people seem to have inferred that the list was complete, the thread comes to a grinding halt. I decided to let it go for two weeks while I typed some excerpts from Black Men: Obsolete, Single,...
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Re: Marcus Garvey Was A Colonialist

Nmaginate ·
This seems like a pretty good source (you can provide yours)...
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Re: National Black Peoples Unity Convention-March 9-12

HonestBrother ·
I was too busy taking pictures... Just kidding... I don't know how many of you remember or know about Gary I back in 1972 (I was just a year old!). Gary I was monumental and everybody who was somebody attended (Coretta Scott King, W.E.B. DuBois, Jesse Jackson, etc). Thousands of participants. Out of Gary I came the collective vision and will to produce hundreds (even thousands) of elected black political officials across the country. One thing that struck me, and a number of others, was that...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Shango67 ·
I strongly disagree. Those are passive examples of particpation. We need to do much, much, more. The vanguards of the current system need to be out of business. Education is a political event and true educational reform has to be sponsored by the masses. Public school systems in the United States were born from the need to provide the nation with a constant labor force primarily made up of whites. As this nation moved from an agrarian society to a nation where goods were mass produced,...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

James Wesley Chester ·
Malcolm X called it the Farce on Washington.---umbrarchist Agreement among leaders was clearly not the case. So...were 'X' devotees among the marchers? Malcolm's was an evolving voice. It's ultimate form may, or may not have included religion. Stangely, King's was also an evolving voice. It referenced religion, but did not require religion of its 'followers'. There is no blatant issues today. Katrina will become more and more nebulous with time. There is no sustaining action. The continuing...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

ma'am ·
I attend friends' family reunions were there are still huge debates over how crappy and messed up MLK was. How crappy and messed up X was. LOL. I don't think people really became messiahs until they are six feet under. They spark debate when they are alive and then get a lot more sympathy and kudos after death. People who complain about a lack of leadership should feel like they are chastising themselves. Lead yourself. Aid your community. For every guy with a mic there are thousands of no...
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Re: Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure

James Wesley Chester ·
And, thus the end of our Constitutional Democratic Republic. Make sense?---K4R I think I get it. Thanks. Your suggestion of constitutional failure is based on the SCOTUS agreeing that The Office of the President is not answerable to Congress. That failure in your scenario is not based on the Congressial act of censure per se. Feingold's 'petition' for cnesure, if answered, could end with the censuring of the President. As I understand that procedure it is an act that is complete in itself.
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Re: Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure

Kweli4Real ·
JWC, You are quite correct about what a censure constitutes. It's the congressional equivalent to getting a written reprimand; nothing more. And no, you were/are not mis-interpreting the procedure. My respond was to the impeachment movement post. My prediction is that if there is talk of impeachment, Cheney will not be the there to take the office. From what I've read [I'll post a link later] Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald has sent Scooter Libby to jail and is one step [memo] from indicting...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

MBM ·
But that's my point. We are so full of haterade that we would rather throw stones than follow someone else. There is no shortage of leadership. Take your pick - from religious leaders to political to whatever. Al Sharpton stepped up - we didn't support him. What's up with Barack? How about Cornel West? Michael Eric Dyson? Jesse is still on the scene. What about T.D. Jakes? What about Eddie Long here in Atlanta (he just bought a $600,000 Bentley - he must be doing something right!). There are...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Frenchy ·
It's haterade to have standards, a point of view? Haterade to require that someone put forth their agenda and convert you like anyone else looking for a following? There's a difference between "hating" (I hate that stupid word) and just plain not agreeing with someone's platform or thinking they are a good leader. There's clearly a shortage of good leadership with a good agenda. ( Al "Tawana Brawley Hoax" Sharpton ?!) I think that is so backwards (and completely impossible). How would that...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

HonestBrother ·
For the record, I'll have no peace in this life until I get to personally kick T.D. Jakes' big fat black a** But, back to the topic, I'll follow someone who has vision and puts forward an agenda I can back. West and Dyson? Brilliant guys but they're academics. I read their books but they're not movement leaders or politicians. Their function is to make us think. Jesse was great but is now a relic of the past. Sharpton is a great agitator but has no vision. And that is really the problem...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

HonestBrother ·
Again the relevance of this comment: EVERY IDIOT AND HIS DAMNED MAMA knows we like to choose our leadership from the clergy... So, speaking of idiots, what does Bush & Co. do? Promote "Faith based initiatives" which are arguably compromising our politics because the preachers (like T.D. Jakes ) are jumping into bed with the Republicans. By the way, I heard Al Sharpton himself make half of this point a few days ago.
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

HonestBrother ·
Although I believe Al gets SO MUCH UNFAIR FLACK FOR THIS. If a white teenager showed up in an alley smeared with shit and said black cops did it, you know what? THE WHOLE DAMNED COUNTRY WOULD BELIEVE HER. Al Sharpton did the right thing in that situation even though ultimately he was wrong. And I'm surprised that a black woman - one who complains about the sorriness of black men - would be holding that incident against him.
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

MBM ·
I could not agree more. Al takes heat for giving a young black woman the benefit of the doubt on this type of issue? How does that work???
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

MBM ·
BTW - I would never suggest that we cavalierly throw our support just any old place. BUT - again - I don't think there is a dearth of leadership in our community. You want a political leader? Grab Barack; what about Harold Ford? Get a group of black leaders and draft Colin if that's your flavor. You want some black leaders - Julian Bond still has lots of fire in him. You want someone a bit more left leaning? Maxine Waters is a flame thrower! Cynthia McKinney is the ONLY person in Congress...
 
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