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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
"Never To Be Forgotten" Renaldo "Obie" Benson/Singer with the Four Tops Lamont Bentley/Actor on "Moesha" Kenneth Bancroft Clark Shirley Anita Chisholm/Politician Johnnie Cochran, Jr./Famous Lawyer Shirley Horn/Jazz Singer Willie Hutch: Willie McKinley Hutchinson/ Motown Record Producer John H. Johnson/Publisher-Ebony Magazine, Jet Edward "Eddie" Patten/Member of Glady Knight and the Pips Constance Baker Motley/Attorney, Civil Rights Activist Rosa Parks/Civil Rights Activist Brock...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Fine ·
1353BC It was Amenhotep IV/(Akhenaton) 'who' introduced the concept of Aton as the Only God in Kemet hence the word Amen-- http://home.acceleration.net/clark/papervu/timeline.htm
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Re: Your house is burning...!!!!

SistahSouljah ·
My Qur'an. Ha ha. No but I'd take "Weep No More My Lady" by Mary Higgins Clark because it was the very first MHC book that I had ever read. My nana gave it to me and it turned Mary into my favorite author. It's another way to hold my deceased grandma forever close to me. She loved books too.
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Re: Is Pan-Africanism Truly Possible or Even Logical?

ZAKAR ·
well there were many africans from America, as well as the rest of the Diaspora, of course WEB was instrumental and I might add one of the foremost panafricanist of his time, as well as CLR James, George Patmore, JA Rogers, Malcom X was a Panafricanist in his own right as well as Marcus Garvey, the Great John Henrike Clark, Dr. Ben, Wade Nobels, AS well as cats like Dr Amos Wilson and so on, I dont know if WEB was Nkrumas mentor, but i do know while at Lincoln University and a part of the...
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Re: Black Like GOP

telltruth ·
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery. The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery. President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves. Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans. Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960. Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (Al Gore's daddy voted against it). The Republican Party help found the NAACP Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded,...
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Re: Black Like GOP

Black Viking ·
I won't deny any of the above, Mr. Telltruth. Now, if you would be so kind, please give me an example of something the Republican Party has done for me, during my lifetime, that would earn them my current, living, and breathing vote.
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alonzo ·
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Re: Black Like GOP

alonzo ·
The Republican Party was the first major political party that were openly against slavery. The Republican Party fought for the emancipation of slavery. President Abe Lincoln-Republican Prez freed the Slaves. Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 was passed by Republicans. Republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960. Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (Al Gore's daddy voted against it). The Republican Party help found the NAACP Prominent Republicans sponsored, funded,...
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Re: Black Like GOP

Dissident ·
The Democrats of today are the Republicans of the pre-FDR, New Deal era. You know this. Those bedsheet-wearing, redneck Dixiecrats left the Democratic party after the New Deal to join the Republicans you see today. I guess they felt right at home with the Republikkkans. Tell the truth, Mr. "Telltruth."
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Re: Black Like GOP

Kweli4Real ·
And [if you believe the Christian mythology of Eden] there once was a time when man [woman] was without sin. My, how times have changed. Now Tell the Truth, Telltruth, You don't really believe that your argument holds any weight outside of the Republican National Committee Thinktank that first promoted the argument, do you?
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Re: Black Like GOP

Yemaya ·
Again like Janet Jackson says, "What have you done for me lately?" You can bring up all of these facts, but what about things that are being done now? Are they still funding these groups and schools you mentioned? I can tell you the picture isn't so rosy on this side, and I'm 34. Maybe its not so much the Republican/Democrat thing, but a white man obession with wealth and power?
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Re: Black Like GOP

Empty Purnata ·
While all this is true, this has little relevance today. The Republican Party of Lincoln is not the modern day GOP, today's GOP is the Party of Reagan. The Radical Republicans ( TAKE NOTE OF THE WORD "RADICAL" ) of Lincoln's day were a left-leaning party that supported democratic federalism, more workers' rights, more anti-trust laws, more government crackdown on corruption, government protection of workers, anti-slavery and anti-confederatism. The Party of Lincoln was basically a...
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Re: Black Like GOP

Huey ·
And let's not forget when Reagan first ran his campaign in 1980, he went to Philadelphia, Mississippi. He could've went to ANY city in the South: Atlanta, Jacksonville, Nashville, MIami, Charlotte, San Antonio... But no. He had to go to the town, where it's only claim to fame (or infamy) is that Philadelphia, MS is the town where Goodwin, Schwerner and Cheney, the three civil rights workers, were brutally killed trying to register black voters. Where were the Republicans when the South were...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Between this and the release of the new Erykah Badu CD, today so far has been a great day. I actually knew he'd run when I saw him last week on Bill Maher. He didn't say anything specific, but he sounded extremely presidential in the things he said. But I think so highly of Clark that I'm strongly considering becoming involved in his campaign.
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Good for you Vox! There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
I saw today that Clark was polling at 10% nationally among Democrats last week!! That's amazing considering that he is just now announcing his candidacy and the others have been campaigning for months. John Edwards, for example, polled at 5 - 6%. There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Here's a nice expose on Clark from the Washington Post. Clark seen as talented, testy By Vernon Loeb, The Washington Post From his plebe year at West Point, retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark was always first in his class, a step ahead of his peers. His rise to the top of the U.S. military seemed almost preordained, given his drive, intellect and burning will to win. BUT CLARK, 58, who won the Purple Heart and Silver Star in Vietnam in 1970 and commanded NATO's air war in Kosovo 29 years later,...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

keylargo ·
I like Clark so far from what I've heard. I'm still into Dean but I can be persuaded by Clark.
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Yssys (Guest) ·
There is a group called "Blacks 4 Clark" already. Read this moving letter sent into the Editors at Africana.com Dear Africana Editor, In the past, African American voters were easy. All a politician had to do was deliver a tearful speech about civil rights and show that he knew at least three words of "We Shall Overcome" or "We Are Family." An on-stage wiggle (on beat or syncopated, didn't matter) was all it took to cinch the majority of the "black vote." Post-inauguration, tearful hymns...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030921/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_2004_poll_4 Clark Among Democrat Leaders, Poll Shows Sun Sep 21, 8:51 AM ET WASHINGTON - Retired Gen. Wesley Clark already appears to be competitive in a new national poll released just days after he became the 10th Democratic presidential candidate. Clark was among the leaders of the Democratic candidates in the Newsweek Poll released Saturday, and was not far behind President Bush (news - web sites) in a...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Yssys (Guest) ·
Vox, is everyone copying the words and ideas of the NOI and Malcolm X these days?! I followed the sister up until she started talking about Wesley Clark. Although I was in service while he was commanding, I don't feel that I know enough about him to speak about him as Ms. Mullen is. I think this is a political ploy skilfully being used by Mr. Clark to gain the black vote, something borrowed from Rev. Sharpton. I find it ironic that this is something being used by a white man to say to black...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Well, I don't know if it's a ploy or not, but unless this woman is a mouthpiece, saying what he demands her to say, I don't see what exactly is wrong with her saying it. On the other hand, it seems to me that most of the Democrats, including black democratic officials, for my entire lifetime, have been talking about a candidate doing what's best for "us," when they talk to us. But they always talk the talk without walking the walk, and I think it costs us. You say that there's hell to pay...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

EbonyRose ·
Well, knowing nothing about Wesley Clark, I just finished watching a tape of his announcement to run for president. Next, I came here to read this thread in hopes of gaining an answer to a question that I have about him. I've read every post here, and I still am going to have to ask the question of why I should rally behind or vote for this person as president of the United States? (And the question is up for grabs for anyone who cares to answer it!) From the little perspective I've gained...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
??? Some coinkidink, huh? Does that need to be said after every single utterance of those words? Anyway, you wanted me, currently a Clark supporter, to try to answer the question why you "should rally behind or vote for this person as president of the United States." I can only try to answer why I like him so far. My issues may not be the same as yours. I probably should put this in Editorials, but here goes... First off, my #1 issue this year is that nothing is more important right now than...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

sergeant ·
Is this the same 'clark' that was responsible for Mogadishu when he was the theatre commander there? Didn't clark also march into Bosnia and proceed to bomb all those innocent people there, in that undeclared war, unsanctioned by the UN or the US congress, where the 'genocide' turned out to be a hoax???
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Yssys (Guest) ·
My gut feeling about Clark has been proven to be on point. "Can anything be more moving than the joyous throngs swarming the streets of Baghdad? Memories of the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the defeat of Milosevic in Belgrade flood back. Statues and images of Saddam are smashed and defiled. Liberation is at hand. Liberation – the powerful balm that justifies painful sacrifice, erases lingering doubt and reinforces bold actions. Already the scent of victory is in the air." – Wesley Clark, The...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Sarge, here's a tip: because Wesley Clark is a human being, surely there are real, legitimate criticisms you could come up with, and that we'll all discuss and digest. To blame this guy for Somalia, and then post the ridiculous lie that ethnic cleansing in the Balkans was a hoax, shows a level of desperation that's not necessary this early in the campaign. There will undoubtedly be truthful bad things to say about him. Stick to those, and your arguments will have more credibility.
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Re: Clark Enters Race

EbonyRose ·
Thank you, Vox!! Before I ask you a couple of clarifying questions, let me just say that Rep. Marion Berry of Arkansas was a big, ol', country, corn-fed white man who has probably never been out of Arkansas in his life!! And #2 .... YES!!! those words should be said after each and every utterance of those others ... because the one's that follow are more true than the one's that precede!! For anyone who doesn't want to say the following lines, they shouldn't say the first in the first place!
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Actually, EbonyRose, let me digest Yssys' post. More importantly, let me digest the full text of the April 30 letter he had published in that link she posted. In it, Clark states that Bush and Blair should be proud of their resolve in the face of all the anti-Iraq-war sentiment. That doesn't sound like somebody who was against what these clowns did. I've read also where his decision to run is in part to get back at Bush for a recent personal slight against him. Not that I mind that, but his...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Kweli4Real ·
This exchange is very informative. I don't know enough about Clark to be for or against him. However, the main question mark in my mind is his ability to negotiate the politics of the Whitehouse. From everything I've read, Clark has a stellar military background, but no "real-world" experience. In the military, a general tells you what to do (right or wrong) and you do it (unless it's illegal or immoral), or you go to jail; in the real world, it doesn't work like that. That manner of...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
OK, here's the whole article. Understand, I never wanted an "anti-war" candidate. I knew this guy was no "dove;" he was a guy who would have no qualms about war if it was necessary. I didn't want somebody who was anti-war, just somebody who was anti-the Iraq war. But this article makes it clear that he wasn't exactly anti-the-war, or anti-Bush, right after Baghdad fell. I have to thank Yssys for this , but man, I have to admit I'm extremely disappointed. I thought he was the real deal, but...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Clark: Americans 'embarrassed' by Bush Candidate attacks president's economic plan, Iraq strategy (CNN) --Democratic presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark has attacked President Bush's economic plan as a failure, and said the war in Iraq was "unnecessary" and lacks a way to succeed or end. Speaking after an event in Washington at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference, Clark, 58, told reporters that the American people are "really embarrassed" by the...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
The two primary things I've heard negatively about Clark are that he waffled about the war and has said complimentary things about Republicans (Reagan and Bush) in the past. My response is, respectfully, "so what?" Politics is the sport of landing on the optimal position. Frankly, I couldn't care less what Clark said or did about any of the issues in the past. What counts is what he's running on now. That's what we can hold him accountable to. What he said as a TV "talking head" before or in...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
MBM, I understand what you're saying, and I haven't totally ruled him out yet. I didn't like the article Yssys posted either, because of its obvious slant, plus the fact that it didn't really get to any point about why he's a bad guy. The only thing that troubled me was the Times UK link it provided. Opposition to the war -- something that was obvious to me for a long time -- is an important concern to me. Be clear on where you stand re: Iraq. Plus, while we can hold him accountable to what...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

MBM ·
Fine - let them run that ad. Democrats will run an entire campaign of the lies that Bush told the world. Iraq connection to 9/11? WMDs? Uranium in Niger? Reconstituted nuclear weapons program? Missiles capable of hitting Europe ready in 45 minutes? Americans would be welcomed with open arms? The war would be 'quick and easy'. Iraqi oil would finance the entire thing? Support for the war was predicated upon lies from the administration. They won't shoot that bullet because it'll come back and...
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Re: Clark Enters Race

keylargo ·
I can no longer find the article but I read that Clark was a supporter of many republicans and that he's not even a registered democrat. That concerns me. Is he running for president on the democratic ticket just because he wants to be president? would he run on a republican ticket if the opportunity was there?
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Re: Clark Enters Race

Vox ·
Actually, Key, from what I understand, the only reason he's running at all is because he dislikes Bush's presidency. Personally, I couldn't care less what party he is or was affiliated with. As you see above, I have a couple of concerns about Clark. But his past support for Republicans wouldn't be one of 'em. At least not for me.
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Re: Some Of Our History

Kweli4Real ·
I heard a report this morning on NPR about a Black man that accompanied the Lewis/Clark expedition. I missed the man's name, but Clark wrote about him in his diary of the expedition, otherwise the Black man had been ignored by history. This man was a slave that grew up with and was Clark's playmate. At the age of 12, as society dictated, their relationship changed from playmates to master servant. When Clark went on the expedition, he took his slave with him. This Black man is believed to...
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Re: New Democrats Poll

James Wesley Chester ·
I think the reaction to Kucinich is as mystifying as that to Clark. Clark has been in the "race" for just over 36 minutes. He has no stated agenda. He has been a Republican of record. He was fired from his last job of consequence to electability. Kucinich has frequently, and loudly stated agenda. He has performed well for his constituency in Congress. He has a history of success in several elections to public office. Kucinich is seen however, suffers from the "barking dog" syndrome. His...
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Re: New Democrats Poll

sergeant ·
Just think of how embarrassed and fustrated Clark is making the other candidates feel. They've spent all their lives putzing around in politics, and in walks Bill and Hillarys man Clark to steal the election from them. Fun to watch. Anyways, All of them are a pipedream. Hillary and Bill cannot allow any democrat victory in 2004, that obviously would be the deathknell of Hillary's aspirations to be queen president. But it sure is fun listening to these pinheads, especially like Gephart and...
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Re: New Democrats Poll

Yssys (Guest) ·
In my opinion a vote for Wesley Clark is a vote for Bush. I wouldn't vote for Clark even if he did win the Democratic nomination. I'll write in my own darned candidate! Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for...
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Re: New Democrats Poll

MBM ·
Since IMO the two are diametrically opposed to each other, could you explain your perspective? There is no passion to be found playing small, in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living. - Mandela
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Re: New Democrats Poll

Vox ·
What about this idea of Sarge's? Of course, it's not Sarge's idea, but there's this notion that Hillary wants the Dems to lose so she can run in 2008. The idea is that 2012 would be too late for her to run. If Wesley is Bill Clinton's guy, then the idea must be that Clark would win the nomination and then intentionally do something late in the campaign to lose the presidential election. Does anybody other than a right-wing Ditto-head believe this? Is there any news source other than a...
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Re: New Democrats Poll

James Wesley Chester ·
Clark won't have to "mess up." He is hopeless from the beginning. As is every other, current, candidate. There does not appear to be a Jimmy Carter in the wings. I have not yet be able to get my brain around the idea of "Hillary in '08." I think the more exposure Hillary gets the more luster she will lose. I don't have any great rationale. It's just my "take" on Hillary. If not Hillary, who in 2008? Now, that's will be a fight. I think Ford of Tennessee will shake things up. I think Watts of...
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Re: Another debate on CNN right now

Yssys (Guest) ·
As I've said before, I'm not for Dean and definintely not for Clark. Neither one has impressed upon me what they can do to make the country better, let alone make Black America better. Clark isn't even a Democrat! Dean is lukewarm at his best. I'm in agreement with Our Empowerment, I'm voting for who will do their best for Black people. Neither one of these two I just mentioned are cutting the mustard. Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
If anyone had doubt about the existence of white slaves, the picture "EMANCIPATED SLAVES, WHITE AND COLORED" in an 1864 edition of Harper's Weekly would have been proof (Frontispiece). The article in Harper's was entitled "White and Colored Slaves." All of these slaves were set free by General Benjamin F. Butler in New Orleans and were attending a school for emancipated slaves when this picture was taken. The article went on to name and describe each individual. The descriptions of the white...
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Re: Does MLK Get A Bad Rap?

Nmaginate ·
All the speeches Malcolm X did at all the various colleges, etc... That doesn't equate to "exposing" himself? THe trip to Mecca and Africa? C'mon... We just need to stop this madness. Now, as for Blacks brandish guns, etc. I have offered the Deacons For Defense, let alone the BPP... And if anyone wants to dismiss them (particularly the BPP) as irrational radical hot-heads then all I have to say is that they would be without a doubt either someone who is very ignorant or someone whose...
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Re: Charlie Rangel and Andrew Young Endorse Wesley Clark

Our Empowerment ·
Shame on Charlie, but I'm sure he spoke to Sharpton about this before it took place, if not I'm sure you will hear quite a hurt response for him soon. Congressman Rangel's district is Harlem, so that's a pretty bitter pill to swollow for Sharton, IMO. That type of action is very, very , political and amounts to backstabbing in my book. Both young and rangel could have supported sharpton now and then given support to the nominie later. Rangel's actions need to be further explained; I remember...
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Re: Charlie Rangel and Andrew Young Endorse Wesley Clark

Our Empowerment ·
Based on information I received moments ago, it would appear that Rangle didn't have that 'suck-up' talk with Sharpton prior to his decision. Perhaps because he is the long time politician and is older than Sharpton, but it appears as if Sharpton is upset at the action, and my guess is, and mark these word. "If Clark does not win the presidency, enable a house majority which in turn will enable Rangel to be Ways and Means Chair, all by the time of his next re-election run, he is going to...
 
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