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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
He could command if only he wanted?: Sheesh! How tragic! So let me ask: Why didn't the Christians of the 19th century follow St. Paul's example? That's what you advocate right? Do as the Bible commends? So why didn't 19th century Christians follow that example??: wish the slaves well, bid the masters regard their slaves as brothers, and remark that they could command if they wished it but wait instead for it to come from the heart???
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Repeat:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Once Again. Maybe you'll answer this time:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

ricardomath ·
Black Church Summit 23 Dec 05 12:00 AM EST SCHEDULE OF EVENTS Sharpton and Flunder to Headline Black Church Summit on Gay Rights Focus on Homophobia and Exclusionary Divisiveness December 20, 2005 - Washington, DC - National Black Justice Coalition (NBJC) will convene a major discussion on lesbian and gay rights among black faith leaders. The two day Summit is to be hosted by First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia and is scheduled for January 20-21, 2006. For a schedule of events,...
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Re: Illegal Immigration

bigman ·
Slavery (or doing the jobs Americans won't do) Our 'peculiar institution' of slavery is over, right? Wrong! Amazingly we have found yet another underclass to import and exploit - illegal immigrants. Whether you align yourself with the donkey or the elephant, you will find very few differences regarding illegal immigrants from either. From both animals we hear 'they are doing the jobs Americans won't do'. What is conveniently left out of that mantra is wages. Yes, many Americans won't work...
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Re: Marcus Garvey Was A Colonialist

Empty Purnata ·
lol, "re-editorializing" I wasn't saying that he was part of some US gov't conspiracy (if anything, the government and CIA conspired AGAINST him). I was saying that some of his ideas were garnered from European imperialist and racialist ideas from the 19th century. His idea of a "New African Elite" always sounded very questionable to me. I still have to find the source, but I do remember reading a while back that he supported imperial Japan's actions in Asia.
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Re: Black Like GOP

MBM ·
Sorry - you explicitly misrepresent the facts when you compare 19th and early 20th century Democrats and Republicans with today's bunch. As has been established, the political affiliations of parties pretty much flip-flopped in the last century. The facts are that conservatives have been against anything remotely in favor of expanding rights and opportunity for African Americans. They have been expressely against any legal or social equality in this country. Conservatives have been the...
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Re: Black Like GOP

MBM ·
Respectfully, if you are aware that parties adjust political ideology than why did you talk about 19th century Republicans and Democrats as if they stood for the same thing that they do today?
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Re: Black Like GOP

telltruth ·
You can call it tripe if want to....but, what I gave you is documented historical facts-And like I said it doesn't matter to me whether you believe it or not....you can get the facts right on your computer-just google it! Here is something else written by another Black man: TRUTH ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY From Toogood Reports The Long, Sad, Violent History of Democrats' Racial Hatred for Blacks BY: Perry Drake May 2003 It has always seemed unnatural and unwise to me whenever I hear someone...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

MBM ·
I think we have a better shot now at reparations than any reasonable person could have thought Africans had at being emancipated and blended into society (however imperfectly) at the turn of the 19th century.
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

Shango67 ·
Both are quixotic concepts. **Sorry - I clicked the wrong button to reply to you.**
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

Yemaya ·
I don't think so. An example of restitution that was ordered by the federal government was the payment of money to black farmers who were actively discriminated against in getting loans to save their farms. The judgement was for the Department of Agriculture to pay the farmers. As of last the judgement against the Department of Agriculture has not been paid in full. As a matter of fact, some black farmers marched down ot D.C. in 2004 to demand payment in full. This story was ONLY covered by...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

MBM ·
A lot of these questions have been addressed before, but since we no longer have a reparations forum, I'll try to offer at least one person's perspective on them. I see reprations as an obligation of the United States government. As such, this isn't about personal culpability and restitution on the part of the descendents of specific slave holders as opposed to the government paying one of its obligations. As I see it, African America is made up of families - the vast majority of which...
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

James Wesley Chester ·
African American-Americans, notably David Walker and Mariah Stewart n the 1830's, and Martin B. Delaney in the 1860s, and Thomas Morris Chester in the 1880s seemed to drive the move to separatism in the 19th century. I'm sure there were others. Immigrants, and descendants of immigrants, transient and otherwise, are the notable players in the movement in the 20th century, e.g. Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammed, Stokely Carmichael, Malcolm (X) Little, Louis Farahkan, and most vocal supporters.
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

MBM ·
Good point, but movements ebb and flow. Part of my whole questioning on this subject is to get a sense of where things are in the evolution of PA. IMO - absent those who went to Liberia in the 19th and early 20th centuries - I am not aware of any meaningful effort of African Americans to either return to Africa or to embrace Africa or Africans. Too many of us had "bought the hype" and were too busy trying NOT to be African! I do sense a current renewal of Pan African thinking though. In that...
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Re: 9/11 - The Anniversary, The Legacy

Afroman ·
Inequality Before and After 9/11 by Paul Street I'll always remember the day I tried to engage in that silly exercise called "speaking truth to power." It was early December of 2001. My topic was American policymakers' decision to place nearly a million black people behind bars and to mark more than one in three black males with a felony record. As a member of a Chicago-based council of advisers working to help ex-offenders "reintegrate" into the "free world," I was invited to a pleasant...
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Re: Who celebrates Kwanzaa?

James Wesley Chester ·
Kwanzaa is a valued addition to our African American heritage. While I do not practice the observance at home,I participate in at least one celebration during the holiday period. This will be my 10th year. One year I conducted an observance in State prison. Kwanzaa is a major piece of the reconstruction we must do ourselves. As you know, I and my family have taken a further step and defined and declared our ancestral nationality as African American. We practice it as such as an example to...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights...
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Re: Stupid Emails

222 ·
FROM: MR KONAN NORBERT KOUAKOU. FROM: ABIDJAN COTE D I'VOIRE. EMAIL: k_konan25@libero.it DEAR, PERMIT ME TO INFORM YOU OF MY DESIRE OF GOING INTO A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED ON RECEIVING THIS MAIL DEU TO WE HAVE NOT MET BEFORE. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I DID NOT GET YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS BY ACCIDENT BUT UNDER THE DEVINE DIRECTION OF GOD ALMIGHTY. I WAS INSTRUCTED BY A PASTOR OF A CHURCH TO FAST AND PRAY FOR THREE DAYS AND CONTACT THE FIRST PERSON I WILL...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Prophetessofrage ·
AfroMan this is a powerful truth you are revealing. Of course, Africans wrote the Bible as that's all that were in that region. And the fact is, even the Bible acknowledges that Africans were what Israel was comprised up of. We have the Bible defining the ethncity of the Egyptians as 'The land of HAM' which of course, is purposely translated wrong, in that it should have been KHEM/KAM (Psalms 78:51; 105:23,27; 106:21-22). We also have the Bible verifying that HAMITES/KHEMITES were they who...
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Re: The Racist Tapestry of Lord of the Rings

nayo ·
////That's just some excuse White people, in particular, have come up with to excuse the gross, horrific and brutal nature of the past. Juvenile logic at best.//// I would not say 'excuse', but a form of 'their' "reasoning and logic" as to why people of a darker hue (Black Americans in particular) [are to be treated] must be treated as the lesser of dogs and other animals. That is what I see in the post of I forget, who posted this, but what you were referring to, that you must separate...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Prophetessofrage ·
Hi Afroman, now that you and Imaginate have well expelled the disease back to her psych Thorazin shot appointments of which it professed to needing to keep, let's get down to some serious discussion on the true Black/African origin of the Bible. I am pulling this passage from your 'Gospel of Egypt' post. The Akhetaten/Moses connection is the key to understanding the African origin of the Bible. As the article points out Hebrews got their style of writing and disposition from Egypt. The Bible...
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Re: Boycott Cold Mountain

EbonyRose ·
This story was on the TIME website ... I thought it would be interesting for this thread! Into The Breach Cold Mountain misses the real story of a big battle. A new tour fills the gap By LAUREN SHEPHERD The sound of exploding gunpowder no longer roars across the grassy ravine nestled in Petersburg National Battlefield Park in central Virginia. But to hear park historian Jimmy Blakenship talk about the battle that took place there 140 years ago, you have to wonder whether he can still hear...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Knowledgeseeker ·
see when you deal with imposters you have to look very carefully at what they write, she tried to fuse this 19th Century white supremict Ideology of the origins of Civilization, with the European minipulated bible, to back up their illogical claim. the ancestors of the Egyptians, the Arabs, and the Israelites trying to say arabs were the original egyptians, but i do like how she unknowingly makes the african origin point when she mentioned the jews, who were black people, but modern science...
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Re: Origin of the bible

Melesi ·
Knowledgeseeker, Careful. Afroman has been led by the nose by a rabid, small-minded, hateful "prophetessofrage" who makes up most of what she says. One of those "facts" that she made up is my color and gender. She was willing to tak with me for a short while, but after she found out that I disagreed with her she demanded to know my race and gender--which would have been easy to discover if she'd only been patient and listening instead of demanding a certain kind of answer right-this-minute.
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Re: Origin of the bible

shebakoby ·
Neither of you know $#** about $#** about genetics. The Middle East is populated by SEMITES which are NOT "Africans" even though they can be dark skinned. They are about as "African" as the Australian Aborigines. C'mon.[/Tom Leykis] God wrote the Bible, man was merely taking dictation. As such, it does NOT matter WHO did the actual writing. where? What? Where be your proof?[/ebonics] Hamites were there, no problem. The Canaanites were Hamites. Technically speaking, the Middle East is mostly...
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Re: Origin of the bible

shebakoby ·
There's a problem with this analysis. The Pharaoh of Moses' time did indeed have a Firstborn Son, who died in the last of the ten plagues. Akhenaton more closely parallels the pharaoh who was living during Joseph's time--especially considering the religious makeover of the times of Akhenaton. Pharaoh in Joseph's time had some pretty compelling dreams and interpretation was only possible through God who used Joseph to accomplish this. It is then entirely likely that Pharaoh went mono...
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Re: Why Should We Just "Get Over It"?

Huey ·
It wasn't MBM, it was me. Obviously, you seem to think that these Africans were just taken in one swoop. I said that it's possible for 250K Africans or more to be taken by 50-100 slave ships (carrying up to 400 enslacked persons a ship) per slave trade company en route to the Americas and the Caribbean islands for OVER 300 years. Africa has always had one of the fastest birth rates in the world. This was the "dot.com" business of the 15th to 19th centuries. Many slave companies, coming from...
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Re: Formation of Africa-Caribbean Commission

James Wesley Chester ·
there is no Black land.---Oshun Auset I'm trying to spread the word. I think 'Africa' (as a term in our language) is about politics. Certainly, that does not make it wrong, or right for that matter. Politics is. The same is true of 'West Africa', 'North Africa, 'East Africa'. Noticeably there is no 'South' political designation for the continent. For the region, that is. Clearly, it is about the politics used in carving up the continent in the late 19th century. I try to avoid using those...
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Re: Formation of Africa-Caribbean Commission

Oshun Auset ·
Yah...and everything is political. Don't tell that to the people of Zimbabwe, Namibia, Zambia, Mozambique and Botswana... I've heard them all say they are from 'South Africa' meaning the region. But because I knew they weren't actually from Azania because of their accents(no rolling Rs)...I knew what they meant. But the term most commenly used is 'Southern' Africa...I think that is only happenstance do to the fact that confusion would mount between country name and region if the term "South...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

ulimo ·
First of all, Oshun Auset, I would like to say that I think that you have a monumental intellect. But some of us Black-Intellectuals began, back in the 1960's, studying Black History in terms of the origins and movements of certain Languages that Black people seem to have been most historically envolved with; such as: Biblical Hebrew, The Arabic of The Quran, Geez of Ethiopia, etc. Which ones were older? Which one came from which one? The 19th Century European historians had spread...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

Oshun Auset ·
Thanks for the compliment but I don't understand your point. Yes, the 'Arab' ethnic group and Arabic language came out of Africa....All humanity did...not to be flippant, but so what? During the Arab development in Arabia and Southwest Asia(the middle east) they had a harsher climate and their religion, which is inseperable and nothing but an expression of their culture became warlike and hostile/patriarchial as a result when compared to the cultures and people that continued to deveop on...
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Re: Ensuring Voting Rights

James Wesley Chester ·
Before I get into this latest effort, let again request anyone, someone to take a look at my post, made today, asking input on the value of offering an alternative petition. Now Rev. Jackson's article. One cannot be against a proposal to 'ensure voting rights.' I'm not. And...we certainly can do two things at once. Rev. Jackson is simultaneously proposing a petition extend three sections of the current Voting Rights Act while advancing the idea of an initiative to amend the Constitution to...
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Re: Wachovia Acknowledges Ties to Slavery

MBM ·
This is a conservative spin on this story. Wachovia Apology Renews Reparations Debate (CNSNews.com) - The apology by the Wachovia financial holding company, for its long-ago connections to the U.S. slave trade, will likely produce dramatic financial consequences for the banking corporation and others in the industry, according to conservative critics of slave reparations. A Chicago ordinance required Wachovia to look through its history for any relationship to slavery. Because the bank was...
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Re: Wachovia Acknowledges Ties to Slavery

MBM ·
Another look at how conservatives frame the Wachovia action. Does anyone have any thoughts about the highlighted argument? National Legal and Policy Center Rips Wachovia Slavery Apology WASHINGTON, June 2 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Peter Flaherty, president of the National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC), criticized Wachovia, the nation's fourth largest bank, for yesterday making an apology for its predecessor banks' links to slavery. The apology accompanied a report that Wachovia commissioned in...
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Re: Wachovia Acknowledges Ties to Slavery

Nmaginate ·
MBM? What's there to comment on? I mean, they take a cynical position, try to play up the Democratic Party as "more responsible" but then say they aren't or can't be because generations have passed. Beyond the fact that restitution/reparations history and precedence contradict their claim-aim (Japanese Internment Reparations, e.g.), they are apparently oblivious to a Black Conservative REPARATIONS Claim against the Democratic Party. (Perhaps that's why they were so quick to tear it down.) ...
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Re: Black People - Wealthy White Folks' Best Friends

MBM ·
You may be right NOW. But what if there had NEVER been black folks here? Revolutions were raging around the world in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
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Re: Ralph Nader drops the 'N' word at Washington fundraiser...

gorilladyck ·
http://www.playahata.com/pages/morpheus/niggaz.html Niggaz, Niggers, & Other Mythical Creatures by Morpheus So the other day I'm watchin some evening news on one of the major networks, and lo' and behold the whole *nigga* and J-Lo controversy erupts. And yeah I know, its been talked bout and rehashed. So why beat a dead horse u might ask? CUZ ITZ DEAD! Ain't gonna hurt da' horse none! On the show, a black journalist reported on the entire fiasco. He went around interviewing different...
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

ricardomath ·
Here's just a sample of some of the "Truth" offered by your precious Traditional Values Coalation, whose hate you continually spread around here at AA.org.
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

ricardomath ·
Vilification and Violence By Mark Potok, Editor Intelligence Report Southern Poverty Law Center Are gay men and lesbian women "perverts"? Do they have "filthy habits" that lead inexorably to bestiality, incest and prostitution? Are they intent on purposely spreading sexual diseases? Destroying Christianity? "Recruiting" youngsters in our public schools and "converting" them against nature to homosexuality? The jihadists of the fundamentalist religious right say yes. These prominent Christian...
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Re: What do you think will happen after you die?

kresge ·
This is also where I was trying to come from initially. DJ is not unique, however, in her theodicy, although her claims as to the religious practices of Western Africans is historically suspect. We know that Christianity was established in Northern and Eastern Africa, and that today remnants remain. The question of how far it extended into the West is ambiguous, to my knowledge. DJ has been somewhat cryptic about her religious affiliation. It bares some similarity to the thought of the late...
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Re: HYPATIA OF ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT

Fine ·
Thank you so much, Virtue--for your contribution to the subject of Hypatia! I listen to Dr. Ray Hagins quite a lot and I remember him discussing her in one of his radio broadcasts and remembered the spelling of her name so that I could do a little investigating myuself. She was a fascinating woman. The inhumane manner in which she was treated was insane. PS May I have the title of Ms. Lumpkins book? I have a bad habit of speculating about the Afrikan-ness of famous people (i.e. Socrates,...
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Re: HYPATIA OF ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT

Fine ·
Your digression has merit, Ms. Virtue! Ditto. The highly refined-visible nature and political standing of the women is evidenced by the number of female Pharoahs: 1. The first 'female' known to be pharoah: Meryt-Neith (1st Dynasty c3000bc) 2. Nitocris (6th Dynasty 2148-44BC) 3. Sobeknofru (12th Dynasty ?1757-1759BC) 4. Hatshepsut (18th Dynasty c1473-1458BC)--Yes, with certainty she did rule as Pharoah. 5. Neferitit (18th Dynasty 1336BC) possible, but not certain. 6. Twosret (19th Dynasty...
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Re: Q. Where Does The Female Essence of Spirituality Exist?

Oshun Auset ·
Re: Q. Where Does The Female Essence of Spirituality Exist?
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Re: Juan Williams: Getting Past Katrina

Nmaginate ·
Here's an interesting thought...
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Re: Where's the movie about. . .?

Dissident ·
* Our beginnings in the Nile Valley during Kush and KMT and the disbursement of African populations * Mande warriors and travelers during the Ghana and Mali Empires * Moorish conquest of Southern Europe * Sci-fi: inner planetary journey to our ancestors who now live in another galaxy * Black inventions of the 19th and 20th century * Biography of Kwame Ture * Biography of 'Thelma' from Good Times...cuz I had mad love for her when I was a kid
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Re: I don't see him (Obama et al) as "BLACK" - some reflections...

James Wesley Chester ·
I'll tell you what I'm getting at... quote: For African-Americans, "black" has always been an absolute adjective: Like "pregnant" or "dead," there's no such thing as a little bit. Expressions such as, "I ain't gotta do nothing but be black and die," phrases that begin, "As long as you black ..." confirm black folks' awareness that the racial attitudes behind the "one drop" rule laid down in the 19th century by the Supreme Court are as immutable and eternal as the biblical creation. Since the...
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Re: Israel = Jewish Reparations?

Popcorn ·
JWC, Yes, there always is. Who really knows what went on in all those small, windowless offices between those Imperialist European diplomats. Politics is such a dirty game that good folks, the ones who really can imagine a better world, don't want to get involved. They don't want to get all covered with filth. But they're going to have to, or this may well be the "terminal phase of human existence" as Noam Chomsky says it is. This is a little off-topic, but here is yet another agreement the...
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Re: African or African American Philosophers

James Wesley Chester ·
The list has to include John Henrik Clarke, PhD. Dr. Clarke was not only great influence on African American historical infrastructure, but that of African nations as well. Notably, he facilitated the recognition and rise of Chieke Anta Diop, Ph.D of Senegal. The Sorbonne refused, dragged its feet, in recognizing the doctoral work Diop for about seven years, primarily because his thesis countermanded the prevailing history of Africa. The work stood the European version not only of history,...
 
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