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Re: Why are we comfortable with Euro-paganism and not African?

Oshun Auset ·
That hit's to the core of my point on this thread... BTW I like your contributions to the forum. Honest Brother you are! Don't even get me started about who is at most of the Reaggae and Continental African musical concerts I go to... Besides the Carribean and continental born Africans of course...Those of us born in the states are beyond low in attendence! It's a damn shame!
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Kevin41 ·
**MBM....I guess as an educator I just GIVE black people grades....and the black causes I give money to is just for them to live off of and not invest in their education and futures. I guess my support of affirmative action was not for black people to go to colleges and also be fairly included in jobs that show our historical representation as low...I guess I want jobs and education for black people to not utilize them and sit on their lazy welfare collecting azzes and watch TV....just like...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
Based upon the onus you place on their backs, why do you call them "victims"? Please explain. A woman has been repeatedly abused by her husband over the years. She walks into the police station, finally, seeking protection and relief. CF looks at her and says, "What are you prepared to do to change to help your situation?" First of all - she has taken the first step and is at the damned police station. Second of all, that she has survived as long as she has is a testament to her personal...
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Re: Aborigines target sudanese refugees

FireFly ·
thanks for this... I haven't been reading newspapers the past week so it's news to me. One thing though, Toowoomba is in Queensland and Balga is in Western Australia. If you look at a map of Australia you'll see we are a h-u-g-e continent and these places are very far apart. And very different. On a positive note, most people feel this way: "Ms Maasakker said the Sudanese had added another dimension to Toowoomba, and made the town more cosmopolitan." and also this way... "Mr Farrell said the...
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Re: Why are we comfortable with Euro-paganism and not African?

HonestBrother ·
You are so kind You're not kidding. I went to a Reggae festival a few months ago and guess what the dominant hue was...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Nmaginate ·
One thing to note here and in other situations when CONservatives like to speak with some perversed order in their imagined Moral Court... (like HiREZ in CON-Feed's "CONCUSSED Liberal?" quoted thread)... they claim some moral victory not by how they displayed a more reasonable or superior position to their vocational or intellectual/academic equal... they(he) tries to project a victory over men who cut hair for a living and engage in talk about life, politics and racism as a leisure type of...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Empty Purnata ·
But apparently, they like to talk shit about them behind their backs: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18040 Yet Larry Elder won't face off with him face-to-face in an intellectual/academic battle. All he is is a convenient nigger to stick his head out and voice Massa's wishes and hold himself up as a "credit to his race" and a "vision of what Black people can become": http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/davidlimbaugh/2002/08/10/164052.html
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Re: Should Black People...

FireFly ·
I think everyone should be able to BE who they are - unless their behaviour is unacceptable to any part of society. As for the big guy running around the block an extra time, or going out of his way.... for myself, as a white woman, if a big guy (of any race) was getting in an elevator with me alone late at night, then just a smile from anyone would make me feel at ease if I felt uneasy. But I would only feel uneasy if I picked up that vibe. I don't expect special treatment. I don't believe...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

little minx ·
so much for dropping the defensiveness. can't say i'm shocked, though. after i wrote that post i figured you'd object (as well as others). god forbid someone suggest something overtly positive on this site. sometimes i think the negativity thing is just rampant 'round these parts of the web. . . . debate does not always have to equal animosity. nevermind. but thanks for the positive things you've said, and thanks for trying to give advice from your perspective on how women can improve...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: Should Black People...

powerflower ·
The context was how we behave in public in general, getting on an elevator, entering a building, walking down the street, etc. As far as commerce is concerned, an good business person should have good customer service skills period. As a business person, if the clients you want are multi-racial then you need to cater to them so that you can get their business. That means treating them with respect, in certain cases trying to anticipate their desires, etc. That goes for Black and White and...
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Re: What Are Women Really Attracted To?

Ms_secondhalf ·
"Women think with their vaginas"???? Puh-leeeeeeeze.... YOUNG women, maybe... who tragically, mistakenly think they don't have anything else to offer. Women with sense (and class) do NOT think this way AT ALL. Clearly, the author has unresolved issues, no doubt fueled by chasing some woman who didn't give him the time of day after he had his way with her and bought her groceries. My brother once remarked that men are basically uncomplicated: "We want food, football and sex, sis. Sometimes...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Kevin41 ·
CF...do me a favor and post my quote when you speak on my behalf..and all that bullschit you are saying this morning is obvious..black people have been moving forward and upward for years...but it is funny to watch blkCONS speak in a vainglorious manner then aid white racist right-wingers in decreasing black opportunity. The reality of it is that black people should never have gotten involved with any issue that adversely affect their own...so all the talk is just window dressing to...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
We can't let this important issue die. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...&address=132x2352250
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Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God

Melesi ·
Sometimes the two concepts confused in this discussion (not this one specifically but this issue) is linguistic gender and biological sex. One cannot argue from the first to the second. A very funny treatment of this and several other like issues in language can be found in Mark Twain's essay "The Awful German Language." Seriously, however, in languages where every noun is assigned a gender (which is most of them. Interestingly, English has rid itself of almost all gender-references, and yet...
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Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God

HonestBrother ·
Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
This is a POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR folks. Please note the classic RACIAL GRAVITATIONAL PULL TRICK. Rather than me PUTTING FORTH FACTS I am supposed stay within the confines of what a GOOD KNEEGROW is supposed to think. If there is any point that you can refute PLEASE DO SO. If this were the most LIBERAL president and there was an attack full of LIES I would have posted the very same data. Please tell me in advance Kevin - what else is Bush currently destorying that you and Isome are going...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Kevin41 ·
CF...you cannot even stay within the confines of coherent thought.....and yes you are the great white defender....but before you put things in your racial context......what do you think my take is on ward coonerly or clarence thomas? you think they get a pass from me because of their race? Go back and read what I think of em....and then come back and tell me what I said is based entirely on race.....you say allot of stupid shit CF...but hey, how many times do you find that out on a daily...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
I'm curious, kevin41: what do you think of Afrimericans who were born in poverty yet mainatined their extreme conservative bias throughout the tough years? This isn't a question on whether or not you agree with their views. Despite what some people may believe not all superconservative Blacks did a 180 once they reached a certain level of prominence--some were ultra right-wing through it all and used that conservative ethos to get where they are. As for the health care issue, it never ceases...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Isome ·
A couple years back I was discussing an AMA report that, in addition to the issues delineated in your post, showed: "...African Americans are more likely to be denied authorization by their primary care physician , even after adjusting for severity of symptoms. The cause of this association is unclear, but raises substantial concerns about the equity with which gatekeeping is practiced. The findings could represent a difference in severity of illness that was inadequately measured by a...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
UN: If study after study shows this then HOW DOES THIS EVIDENCE CHANGE YOUR STRATEGY ? If it is the case that RACIAL PREFERENCE for your own kind is paramount then IS IT LOGICAL for your end game to be to stop the people in power from doing this OR SHOULD IT BE to [/b]develop a system FOR YOUR OWN PEOPLE[/b] so that people who look like you are servicing people who look like you, insuring the quality level that you desire? Is it logical to try to change the basic properities of kryptonite so...
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Re: How to Date A Single Dad

Frenchy ·
On its face, it doesn't sound like bad advice, but the more I think about it, something is off. The overwhelming sense is "You are not really a part of this family. Be prepared to be bounced out of the picture at whim and get the short end of the stick. And don't gripe about it." Which is somewhat understandable in the beginning, but seems insane for anything that goes beyond a few months. I just don't quite see how that's a healthy situation. At some point, there has to be equal dedication...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
Constructive Feedback: thank you for ASS uming you know where I stand. If you have read any of my posts, you would know that I am for voluntary Black separatism and strengthening our own communities economically and politically through self-investment, not through asking the Democrats to through us a bone (or smiling when we perceive the conservatives do). Why do you criticise people who agree with you? At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that it is a f*cked up thing to do to deny a...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
There have been plenty of studies done on racial disparities on medical treatment. SOME have shown that even Black practitioners provide a lower standard of care to Black patients. In my view it has to do with the amount of insurance that is available to the individual based on the job that they work, the general standard of the medical facility itself (as compared to one in a more wealthy facility and YES plain ole racism. Michael has documented the tale of shoddy medical care at MLK...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Yssys (Guest) ·
I think that this is such a relevant and interesting topic, I decided to bump it back up to the top of the discussion board. When I was in high school, I was fortunate enough to go to a presidential library and browse through the declassified files of that administration. I was incensed to discover that long before WWII so-called American citizens were being spied on and massive amounts of information was being documented an stored on non-violent organizations. Organizations such as the...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: What makes caucasians white?

folobatuyi ·
Dear Art-girl, My understanding of the difference in the pigmententation btw the various racial groups lies in the relative amounts of melanin in the melanocytes that lie in the skin. It has been said that everyone has the same number of melanocytes (melanin producing cells) but the ones in darker complexioned folks produce more of the dark pigment melanin...which in my opinion would confirm the commonality of man as one race and the varying amounts of melanin being reflective of the region...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

HonestBrother ·
Equal opportunity mack here
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Once again...i'll save my time and efforts and use them to learn and dialogue with the like-minded progressives who are indicative of my own educational and intellect level......once you give a damn fool attention...it is a warped form of flattery to them....because they really do believe that interacting with them lends credibility to their nonsense...that is not the case..and you try to show people the flaws in their thinking as a courtesy...but by no means should their ignorance become...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

Black Viking ·
I only have one problem with this. By my understanding, racism is simply a specific form of prejudice. At its core, its no different than classism or sexism. The question is "What is the bias?" not "Is there a bias?" For a person to say they are not racist, they are saying that they are not prejudice, that they do not pre-judge. But, as she said, we all do that. Prejudice is one of the ways we quantify our suroundings with the small amount of information given in a short amount of time. I...
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Re: 2005 Lynching

Kweli4Real ·
I saw this article at another site. They got to talking about lynching, defining it and talking about how politicians have misappropriated it [Goolge: Clarence Thomas+High Tech Lynching]. Then they got to questioning how the SC law defines lynching as "any attack on a person by a group that causes injury" [paraphrasing]. They all gave reasons for the disconnect between the SC law and lynching's historic racial context; some even priased the law's "color-blindness." I would argue that the...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Come now, HB, those words can be used against you and be quite accurate. They shoudn't be, though, because they're not an argument, only a questioning of motives and asserting conclusions that you do not and cannot know. I'm reading nothing into the text. Look at the words. They are there. Once more: +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 8Therefore, although in Christ I could be bold and order you to do what you ought to do, 9yet I appeal to you on the basis of love. I then, as Paul"”an old man and now...
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Re: Some sobering statistics on poverty

Pace Tua ·
Unfortunately, these numbers and what they mean have become "normalized", in the sense put forward by Edward Herman in his book "Triumph of the Market". It can only be so, as capitalism panders to the uncontrolled greed and self-interest of the few. These statistics have to be accepted, normalized or else people would realize something is wrong and this is a threat to capitalist culture. And there is a method to all this as well. One of the cornerstones is to promote the banality of evil.
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

MidLifeMan ·
Like I said, in an ideal world or maybe a fairytale land race wouldn't be an issue. But in the context of the "real world" and this country it has been, and probably will be for a long time. So love/empathy/trust/loyalty is relevant and I didn't say or imply that they are not, I never said anyone was deficient and like I said, whatever floats another man's boat so I'm not "dictating "anything to anyone. And all of the talk about "love should only matter" is, as I said, great in an ideal...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

Black Viking ·
I saw the show. It was very interesting to me because I'm bi-racial. The question that kept comming to me about that mother was, "How do you act white? Is there a specific way that white people act?" The mother also said she thought her daughter wasn't black enough. So, of course, similar questions present themselves,"How black is black enough? How does one portray blackness?" I think the mother's unaddressed problem is that her daughter is more than half-white. She has very Aryan features...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

HonestBrother ·
Maybe Constructive Feedback knows this guy?
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

qty226 ·
I think this is really good advice for those that date interracially.
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Re: AN UNEVEN HAND: THE DISCIPLINE GAP IN SEATTLE SCHOOLS

Nmaginate ·
In the other thread, you referenced a White Blog with a bunch of BS written about the study. Though this was an attempt to be intelligent as opposed to just speaking in the talking point Language of Right vs. Left STUPIDITY, the following quote from one of the respondants shows exactly how bankrupt their objections are: Somehow, it didn't occur to our friend that, by the same consideration/comparison token, there is no way to make a case against the racial discrimination claim (as he and his...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

Rowe ·
Despite what theologians are saying today, the Hebrew Bible is very clear about how humans should relate to nature and the environment. In the quoted scripture, the word "over" is used a total of five times to describe man's relationship to nature. Thus, there is no mistaking that the scripture clearly situates man above nature rather than having an equal status to nature. This kind of relationship creates an unbalanced, confrontational, and even hostile relationship between the two...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
No, because Black children are not White or Asian children. Black children are just as academically capable, smart, and competent as other children , but because they are Black, they are often times treated differently than other children, particularly in academic environments. Thus, whatever "academic handicaps" that Black students develop as result of past and present mistreatment is not "self-inflicted," but inflicted upon them by society. And this is what "racial identity education"...
 
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