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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
courtesy of democratic underground Condoleezza Rice George W. Bush gave Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a very important job last week. According to the Financial Times: President George W. Bush on Wednesday announced that the State Department would lead all US post-conflict reconstruction, a move that supersedes the controversial decision to give that task to the Pentagon in Iraq following the 2003 invasion. ... A former senior official involved in what he called the "chaos" of post-war...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious....when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here......... My dad's barbershop ...byLarry Elder and personal responsibility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: December 29, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: The following column...
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Re: Aborigines target sudanese refugees

FireFly ·
thanks for this... I haven't been reading newspapers the past week so it's news to me. One thing though, Toowoomba is in Queensland and Balga is in Western Australia. If you look at a map of Australia you'll see we are a h-u-g-e continent and these places are very far apart. And very different. On a positive note, most people feel this way: "Ms Maasakker said the Sudanese had added another dimension to Toowoomba, and made the town more cosmopolitan." and also this way... "Mr Farrell said the...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
"Never To Be Forgotten" Renaldo "Obie" Benson/Singer with the Four Tops Lamont Bentley/Actor on "Moesha" Kenneth Bancroft Clark Shirley Anita Chisholm/Politician Johnnie Cochran, Jr./Famous Lawyer Shirley Horn/Jazz Singer Willie Hutch: Willie McKinley Hutchinson/ Motown Record Producer John H. Johnson/Publisher-Ebony Magazine, Jet Edward "Eddie" Patten/Member of Glady Knight and the Pips Constance Baker Motley/Attorney, Civil Rights Activist Rosa Parks/Civil Rights Activist Brock...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely, it is the Black community that is nutty, backwards, sleazy, cowardly, disloyal, and/or treasonous towards itself...... ...and since I believe in the laws of this land, I don't make any attempt to justify illegal activity. ...instead it is better served to seek redress, as opposed to asking the perpetrators why they did it. ......more important than the why, is the proving that they did. Last time I checked, more so that not, those behind bars are there, because it was proven...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Frenchy ·
Give me a break, Kevin41. You are the same one who said you would not want any Black gay people marching with you for civil rights. They could "stay at home" according to you. Pick up your sheet on the way out.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Notice how they get longer as a way to be more distracting...man behavioral science is something else........ **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to become angry because of it. you understand what they are striving for as a goal, eliminate their possibility of accomplishing it...and go on about your merry day." by Kevin41 ************************************ I pay Kevin41,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
I am a Christian, I am heterosexual, I think gays should be allowed to marry, I think women have the right of choice and affirmative action is desparately needed because children are still being left behind. Law in the USA is not about morality it is about power and money. It was law that enslaved my ancestors using the Christian Bible, it was law that separated the races under Jim Crow using the Christian Bible , it was law that cause the police to sick dogs on citizens because they were...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
How about the law which gives Congress the right to authorize the President to declare war?
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Nmaginate ·
Constructive Feedback?? Sunnubian?? Comments on the actual question at hand? And that set of questions make up one whole question to the tune of the one quoted, in bold, above. Now, with Asian-Americans "making more income" than any other group and excelling in education... YOUR ANSWERS? As for these blanket statements:So please make sure you are comparing Like Sets in every demographical sense. And even with that... YOUR ANSWERS?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"1. It is his attempt to have the last word as EP stated when describing childish behavior. 2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. 3. In the spirit of blast emailing, his posts and long and...
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Re: Sistah Souljah

Nmaginate ·
I guess it was Terminator X's BUCK WHYLIN' where she thundered "WE ARE AT WAR!" that was the most memorable and defining lyrical statement I recall, knew and loved about Sister Souljah. I was more heavily into the lyrics of X-Clan songs including ISIS and Queen Mother Rage as well as Brother J and Professor X. (And Professor Griff's album... That was one I played a lot. Being a country boy (rural actually) I can only guess what I missed in that era. I more or less had to be introduce to Hip...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
Is anyone following the confirmation hearings? I was reading the GOP list of witnesses for Alito when I came upon this: I find it interesting that Kirsanow is a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights AND a partner in a law firm whose labor/employment law section [where he practiced] is widely known for its union-busting and aggressive, employee-hostile tactics.Kirsanow will be in the 5th panel and is a "discrimination is a thing of the past" civil rights
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
In following the confirmation hearings, I found one [actually several] of Alito's comments, "Curious." He was asked about something that he wrote arguing that the constitution is silent on the "right to privacy." [And, it is] The question [and answer] was framed in terms of the "right to privacy" announced in the Rowe decision. Alito was asked, with respect to his earlier comments, how he would approach the "right to privacy" question, if raised. Alito's response was that he would " approach...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

Rowe ·
The following passages are excerpts taken from author Rosemary Radford Ruether's, Sexism and Godtalk: Toward A Feminist Theology . Woman, Body, and Nature: Sexism and the Theology of Creation 1) "The establishment of this relationship between male and female spheres depends not only on males as definers of culture but also on the burdening of women with most of the tedious, day-to-day tasks of economic production. Males become a leisure class with relatively little to do but decorate...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Yemaya ·
After he has admitted spying on American citizens and admitted that the war in Iraq was based on faulty intelligence, you would think that someone other than the press would be talking about impeaching him. The majority party of the senate and congress for the last 3 administrations has been the Republican party. Now they have seized majority power in all branches of the government. Including the "talking point" lackeys and those of self-righteous indignation that often show up on this and...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am not sure why I waste my time. I said NOTHING about getting reparations from Bush. Several weeks ago a frat brother of mine told me that Bush wasted billions in Iraq that he could have given to Black people as reparations. I asked him why is he so vocal about what "his enemy" has failed to do with his deficit spending to fund a war but he is so silent about what his friend has failed to do to pay the debt he owes to Blacks all the while having a SURPLUS. The end result for Black people...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
As nicely as I can say it....... STFU, "WHITE BOY!!" When you say things like this: Point out the fact that they are making use of some of the very same tactics that are now illegal after years of their protests and you are likely to be attacked...certainly verbally attacked, maybe physically attacked. YOU MIGHT BE A WHITE BOY ! Seriously though, take that BS right up off my thread. You know, that WHITE BOY BS!! You know, like this WHITE BOY BS: So, CF? Any other Stormfront-like opinions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Thanks for the response and the quote - on the 'surface' the concept of being 'colourblind' can be taken as something positive (by me at least), as seeing beyond race and colour - not pre-judging or discriminating between people - but with closer scruntiny is, agreeably, more along the lines of.... "...that there can be injustice in treating people the same when in relevant respects they are different, just as much as there can be in treating them differently when in relevant respects they...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
Uhhhh, just because I think I'll post this here! Released: January 15, 2006 Bush job approval dips again to 39% New Zogby Survey shows Iraq a Partisan War In the face of rising gas prices, partisan sniping over Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, and a resumption of insurgent violence in Iraq, President Bush's job approval rating has slipped into a post-holiday funk, again dipping below 40%, a new telephone poll by Zogby International shows. His approval rating almost mirrors the percentage...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Kweli4Real ·
In a recent departmental "Team-Building" exercise, we were asked to articulate our "Civil Rights Dream." Everyone gave the pat "I dream of the day when all people are treated fairly, with dignity and respect" or "I dream for the day when there is no longer a need for our department." And, everyone's head was bobbing, "Yep, Yep." Well, at least until they got to me, the only Black male in the division [well, there's one other, but he racially identifies with his white italian mother rather...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Little Fella: I have "power" and influence over myself and my family. I have no job as a "Civil Rights Actor-vist", standing in front of a crowd, telling Black folks how damaged we are as a people. You can judge me on that which I have influence over in my domain. I just signed up for Junior Acheivement. I will have the opportunity to get in front of young people and "indoctrinate them" toward my way of thinking. IF my bit of influence upon this kids, mixed in with the greater influence of...
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Re: Expanding on MBMs Inquiry ...

kresge ·
MLK, Jr. On Monday, I listened again to his sermon in 1967 at the Riverside Church in NY when he comes out against the war in Vietnam. It is rhetorically, philosophically, and theologically masterful.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Texas Star ·
Nmaginate... I really like you, and your thoughts. Even with all your mean remarks. Maybe I wrote this all wrong. I don't even understand some of these responses. I actually just wanted to chat with you, and get to know more about you. All Im trying to do is bring blacks TOGETHER. MY ISSUE IS, I want to get to know you guys more. I don't have a dad, so maybe when look at the pics of these smart old men who seem to care about something, I just wish I could be closer or on your level. The...
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Re: SISTA'S PLEASE READ:

Texas Star ·
Check out what YOUR FAVORITE products do to you: http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep2/index.php Additional Reading: http://www.miasb.com/skin_commercial.htm (I don't personally know who the Sista is who put the site together, but she is doing a good job) THERE IS A WAR AGAINST YOUR WOMB!!! BELIEVE IT! ; )
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Quite right, but it is some Australians, not all Australians. Perhaps the most important process that has been stalled is Reconciliation. A lot of Australians want our federal government to say 'Sorry' to the members of the Stolen Generation, and the indigenous population. There has been a century-long struggle for rights for Aborigines in Australia. What has it achieved? One thing is the right to vote. That it took until the late 1960s is outrageous. Another issue is a treaty. Australia has...
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Re: French President Chirac Threatens Genocide

Frenchy ·
Oh Lord. I wish these morons would just close their traps for a minute before they put us on the fast track to nuclear war.
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Re: French President Chirac Threatens Genocide

MBM ·
If one were a conspiracy theorist they might think that all of this was a big ruse to artificially inflate oil prices.
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Re: Black Jesus: "Son of Man"

Isome ·
Jesus WAS a radical. He wasn't supporting the status quo by overturning the moneychanger's table in the temple and Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego were definitely engaging in civil disobedience... It doesn't sound off the mark to me. Besides, I'm sick of Black people spending so much of their lives living in a FUTURE paradise. ( thanks Stevie ) Work needs to be done right NOW and for our lives RIGHT HERE!!
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
Is that going to change if they get married? Is this number a reflection of tax breaks that married people get, and what other variables are there? I have a hard time believing that this income gap is actually caused by being a same-sex couple. The same Census shows white same-sex couples actually have more median income than white heterosexual couples. If this is true, then we deserve what we got. This is another great example of ideological manipulation . It's pretty easy to follow. It...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Isome ·
As an example of an extensive government cover-up, there is the case of TWA Flight 800 from July 17, 1996. Over 30 witnesses claim to have seen an object shooting up in the air and hitting Flt 800 just before it exploded, similar to the imagery we've all seen from the first Gulf War (scud missiles flying UP). Government agencies, including the F.B.I. and NTSB, vehemently denied any existence of a missile that could have hit the plane. However, lots of Americans, including relatives of those...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

James Wesley Chester ·
How do African Americans create a "unity paradigm" that works for the highly stratified "black diaspora?"---Nmaginate The group I am referencing is that group that is of unknown African ancestry. That group may be expanded to include any other person of African ancestry who a citizen of, or resident in, the United States. And I guess I should add all those involved should be speaking to the best needs for African America, as indicated in your initial phrase of the quote. Having said that...
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

MidLifeMan ·
I was blessed with 3 mothers – my mother and my two sisters. My oldest sister use to carry me around with her like I was her baby. Unfortunately, my fond memories are few due to the fact that my mother worked, and my sisters are much older and weren't around a lot when I was growing up. I only saw my mother's mother once a year if that. But the thing I love the most and admire the most is the strength of black women. I've watched my mother, sisters, and many other women for that matter, deal...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Kevin41 ·
**Democracy and Freedom of Speech my azz: L.A. Times writer defends incendiary Iraq column Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:27 PM ET By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A Los Angeles Times columnist who infuriated conservatives by writing that he does not support American troops fighting in Iraq -- and calling those who do "wusses" -- stood by the article on Tuesday. Joel Stein said he has been "bombarded" by hate mail over the incendiary article -- which was headlined "Warriors and Wusses" and held...
 
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