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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
I agree. Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Nmaginate ·
Intuitively, if not consciously, each and every Denier/Minimizer knows. For White Deniers/Minimizers, they know they benefit from continued racism/WHITE SUPREMACY. The way some act, they are addicted to, if not dependent on the idea. The very notion itself, the very idea of White Denial is racist in and of itself. It is an attempt to install WHITE SUPREMACY. Not only are Black people lazy, in their eyes, but Black people, for some reason, seem to want to believe Their Lying Eyes over what...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
First off, I think it's important for everyone to assess and reassess their goals frequently. Because life, and our lives don't remain static. So it is a great question to ask of ourselves - what is our version of the American (or Australian) dream? Wanting a house (territory), a car (mobility), and income (security) is fine, however the perception and reality of the so-called American Dream depend entirely on the person dreaming the dream. OK call me a wet blanket but... A lot of people...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Sweetwuzzy ·
Yup. All the time. Racism is such a dirty word, and unlike the past, it is taboo to be openly racist, so racist must pretend that they are not racist and that racism does not exist.
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??---sweetwuzzy You're right. It doesn't. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
As nicely as I can say it....... STFU, "WHITE BOY!!" When you say things like this: Point out the fact that they are making use of some of the very same tactics that are now illegal after years of their protests and you are likely to be attacked...certainly verbally attacked, maybe physically attacked. YOU MIGHT BE A WHITE BOY ! Seriously though, take that BS right up off my thread. You know, that WHITE BOY BS!! You know, like this WHITE BOY BS: So, CF? Any other Stormfront-like opinions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! CON-Feed... It's ENGLISH time: King "reasoning" has become King "rhetoric" as hostile forces use King's name, likeness, intellect and legacy to shift the social construct toward race neutrality and away from social justice. That's something like that thing I referred to... you know, The Main Idea.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Kevin41 ·
CF...you can talk about my momma all you like...because my parents were not the racially afflicted coons like yours who raised you with those antebellum views where colored folk like them knew their place..plus I know you would never have the balls to say schit in my face...and even though what a coonin azz lackey says never bothers me......i'd stomp your azz beyond recognition just because of your level of bitch azz imposition......you are a weak azz dick sucking failure as a black man, you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Thanks for the response and the quote - on the 'surface' the concept of being 'colourblind' can be taken as something positive (by me at least), as seeing beyond race and colour - not pre-judging or discriminating between people - but with closer scruntiny is, agreeably, more along the lines of.... "...that there can be injustice in treating people the same when in relevant respects they are different, just as much as there can be in treating them differently when in relevant respects they...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
My question is do the general public white Americans take the opportunity to ask questions about race of any kind? This may not be 'dialog' but it's a way to begin to find out how other people think. To ask what's it like to be black is a valid question for someone who isn't. It's an attempt to understand another viewpoint. It's a start... not a whole conversation. I do understand the above. I see there being two sides to the process. Clarifying one's own beliefs certainly. And having the...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
So no matter what........black men dont want a 200lb sista, that has her own in life................but a sista should want a janitor, custodian or fast food manager? Am i reading this right?? Gimmie a damn break!! Like i mentioned before.......i live in Tampa, and when i go out, i never look 'at' black men.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
You know.....i expected a man to throw another 'race' of women in this equation. It seems that a lot of brothas, still want to hold this over our heads. Think again.......please notice that sistas are complaining less about these issues, we are finally getting the point.....and for the most part, are moving on. (well at least i am) Also, i find it funny, that you commented on the fact of "blue collar workers", but you said nothing about how brothers, turn away decent sistas because of their...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Nobody's saying you have to date an ugly or ignorant or disrepectful blue collar brother just because he's a brother . Likewise, a brother shouldn't feel compelled to date an unattractive (to him) sister just because of her education, wealth or career . What we are saying is that a person (man or woman) not having a "professional" job, does not make them less qualified to be a good mate. A college degree is not THE gold standard for intelligence. Ultimately, I think you have to go where your...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love the black woman's voice...No other race of women speak with such honey in their voices whether they're bougie proper or into mad ghetto slang - and I REALLY love it when they can switch from one to the other and back - like my mom...Maybe it goes back to my mother reading to me when I was a kid - one of my earliest memories...And you can hear it when they sing.... In my collection of soul records I heavily favor female singers.... The Divine Gladys Knight... hmmmmm.... Aretha...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
And I'm also saying that being blue collar doesn't necesarily tell you about what's inside that person or what they're capable of. Yes I was a janitor once. But I was bright and curious and read a lot even then. I have a Ph.D. now. And if I dated outside my race it was in part because I had such a hard time finding a sister before I had a Ph.D. Lighten up. Open up your eyes...Realize... Isn't that a song?
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

Rowe ·
Can't wait until you get hot! Sounds good so far.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Frenchy - There were three posts after qty226's response before yours. Which one touted a double standard? Here's mine again: Where's the double standard? There was no scolding. If you set looks aside, how do you know that a blue collar or non-degreed person can't be a good mate for you? Note there have been very few discussions about people's physical preferences, outside of Rowe. We are talking about personality traits. If you know that common ratio of women to men is 10 to 1 on college...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Kevin41 ·
Some negroes reek of self-hatred because they do not see themselves as shit.....if they did they would see themselves as a walking contradiction of the shit they espouse..like that low-scoring culture bullschit or all of those things black people supposedly do not care about...i will slap a self-hating nigga (yeah I said it) and show him how to acheive where whiteness does not leave them so damn awestruck.....man they are a sorry as species of animal.....the fucking house negro...a cancer to...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Well, Kevin... when that "White Boy", a self-professed CONservative, quoted this line from Project 2019, I exposed him and his whole entire charade and scheme. He latched onto this Project 2019 (and quotes Larry Elder, Star Parker, Williams, McWhorter, etc.) and tried to celebrate saying silly shit like "Black Leaders agree with me" even after I've broke his ass down several months ago where he put his tail between his legs and just cried uncle: "I'm done with "race"..." Well, something...
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Re: Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Ho Hummm - Yet another White Liberal who attempts to equate RACE with GENDER. We can look around the world and see the proof of interactical reproduction and marriage. The brownskinned people in India and Italy did not magically get that way. Yet as we look across the globe we don't see a history of man marrying another man. They only last for one generation as they are not able to reproduce.
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
You finally got something straight. Yes, a benefit that is afforded one group of people to the exclusion of another based on race, religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual-orientation, or disability is illegal discimination, and therefore oppression. BTW, it's also unconstitutional. Healthcare coverage has nothing to do with anything. Insurance companies set their own policies. No one has a constitutional right to healthcare. They should, but they don't. What does this mean? You make it sound as...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: Bible = The Word of God?

nubian1125 ·
MBM, God is never done speaking through his people. God has always risen one to speak to the people. I'm a christian and i catch alot of heat for this but i'm going to keep it real. I Believe God speaks at times to louis farrahkan. Even though he is a muslim. We are a race of people in the dark, and God had put the words into his mouth to guide us and to lead us. Now it is up to Louis Farrahkan to take heed to this call. As a christian i can't give Louis Farrahkan credit for calling on...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
If that's all she's saying, then fine. I agree. Desire whoever you want. It's America. BUT STOP ALL THE GRIPING WHEN YOU DON'T FIND IT . AND STOP COMPLAINING WHEN THOSE OF US WHO AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU DATE OUTSIDE THE RACE.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

xxGAMBITxx ·
Lawd oh Lawd! People ask me why I don't display much (if any) emotion when I'm in relationships and this thread is why. Rationality folks, rationality. No one (well most no ones) wants someone they "have to carry". Thats a given. If you want a Denzel/Halle, go for it. But if Denzel/Halle don't want you back, suck it up and move on (or keep trying and get your heart broke again). Same goes for the average brother/sister. But one thing I've learned is this. Nothing will change. We are too set...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
I've read every thread you've referenced - I like to see what people have to say, even when I disagree with them frequently. I don't write anybody off (which has been my underlying point with this topic, BTW). Yes, you can do something about it. You can stop being a sheep and following the popular sentiment of "society". You don't know what you have in common with a blue collar worker unless to take the time to find out. You've made some very dangerous assumptions about the intellect of...
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Re: NUBIAN Queen Ti Unearthed

sunnubian ·
What's equally amazing is the fact that the Euro-Western racist historical revisionist did not get a chance to manipulate her obviously African features or had to chance to FIRST publish/distribute whitenized photos of her throughout the world to add to the mythology that those that are the predominate race in Egypt now are the same ones that Built and ruled Egypt thousand of years ago, etc., etc.
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
Or we can actually be honest and get off the ideological soapboxes. How about that? ************************************************************************** ************************************************************************** Compare & Contrast: "We can either march forward under the illusion that a discipline gap exists because teachers are a bunch of racists ..." "What remains unclear is how people who are concerned with fairness and equality would seek to institutionalize the...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
BULLSHIT!!! If his concern was "Black People", primary or otherwise, then he would be much more apt to GET HIS FACTS STRAIGHT!!! RHETORIC ain't shit! That old tired line, "My primary concern is Black people"... ain't shit! Neither one of you can just claim that shit and it will be, just because you say it. That stuff is demonstrated by the degree of concern you and Waymon have for dealing with FACTS!It is possible for you to find better ways of trying to illustrate your points instead of the...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
I'll repeat it one more time, CON-Feed, then I'll ask for your response: ************************************************************************** Investigations of behavior, race, and discipline have yet to provide evidence that African American students misbehave at a significantly higher rate. Studies have failed to find racial disparities in misbehavior sufficient to account for the typically wide racial differences in school punishment.
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Re: Conservative Whites vs. Liberal Whites

MidLifeMan ·
Not sure if your question was for the group or for a particluar person so if forgive my response if "jumped into the middle of the conversation". The answer is yes. To say otherwise would be to generalize. Like Malcolm realized after is trip to Mecca, it's not the race or color of the peope but the mentality. To LABEL whole groups of people as inheriently bad is wrong. The nature of men does not change with races, class, gender, or religion. We ALL have our good and bad traits. The problem...
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Re: CF ... Be a dear and please explain ...

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I actually "stole it" from another chat board. A particular member was making use of it as Noah the African could tell you. I first saw the picture and was touched by the POWER and the SYMBOLISM of it. It is a picture of (I assume) an innocent African child who is hungry and unprotected. The vulture in the background doesn't care about his race, global politics or any violation of the human rights of this child. To the hungry vulture this HUMAN is nothing but a PIECE OF MEAT that might fill...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

sunnubian ·
______________________________________________ The name of the article he wrote was, "Race Gap in school discipline persists in Seattle." Unless he meant the race gap between some other races of people in those schools, 'white folks' would be the primary cause for the effect that he is writing about.
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Frenchy ·
Well, we're clearly much worse off than we were before. Unemployment is up. Wages don't cover the same standard of living for most people anymore, but you're putting in longer hours at the office/on the field. Social programs are being cut. Public broadcasting is actually being threatened if they don't air programs favorable to the administration. Protests and outrage are useless as we have officials who pay no attention to that and follow their own agenda, so people have become apathetic.
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