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Re: Should Black People...

Isome ·
No, no, no we should not and are not responsible for them being comfortable. One of the biggest obstacles we face is their propensity to view themselves as the center of the universe and all that they do, think and feel as the norm, or as the normative standard to which everything is compared and judged. Much like spoiled children, they need to learn that the sun does not rise and set upon them. A little discomfort is just what the doctor ordered.
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
.....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... .....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc., ...... ......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Guest ·
So what you are saying then that IF BENNET or any other enemy conservative DID advocate mass abortion for Black babies - paying Black women to have them - YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT because it is legal? What ARE YOU SAYING MBM? It seems that you just presented "Manufactured Outrage" about Bennett's comments. If in fact hundreds of thousands of Black women CHOOSE to have an abortion and this IN FACT does reduce the level of crime THE FACT THAT THEY "CHOSE" to abort the child is the...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
CF - I'm being real patient and kind here. Now listen (read) carefully. There is a big difference between the state killing black children and women exercising their Constitutionally protected right to choice. I hope that even you can understand that.
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Re: Heaven & Hell Before Christ

Oshun Auset ·
Arguing over a name is pointless and stupid. Debating the concepts we hold is important because it is the concepts we have of 'God' that frames our whole world view and determines how we respond to each other, nature and the universe. IMO the dominant world 'response' of Western man is extremely destructive to say the least.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
Based upon the onus you place on their backs, why do you call them "victims"? Please explain. A woman has been repeatedly abused by her husband over the years. She walks into the police station, finally, seeking protection and relief. CF looks at her and says, "What are you prepared to do to change to help your situation?" First of all - she has taken the first step and is at the damned police station. Second of all, that she has survived as long as she has is a testament to her personal...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
"I wonder how many Black people really give a schit about how they are LOOKED at ..." by Kevin41 "I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious .... when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters ....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here........." by Kevin41 ************************** ".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... ..... the...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

nayo ·
ROTFLMAO!!!! p.s. I almost, fell for the Elder 'okidoke', until I heard his response to an African American woman (on his recently cancelled television show), who was opining about racism in the U.S. He asked her, why did'nt she just go 'back' to Africa if the racism was so bad here!! I could'nt believe it.
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: Should Black People...

Faheem ·
I damn near fell out laughing while reading what Sister PowerFlower wrote; She writes that the brother wrote in his article; HAHA... a whistling Black man would be perceived as less threatening... I can just see Negroes walking around whistling trying to say to white folk, "I am a cool Negro not one of those violent ones". Imagine how psychologically warped a white person must be to believe a Black man whistling is not a threat. Some Negroes would tap dance every time they walk pass a white...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I started this thread because I thought that it provided women with some good dating advice. Honest. Soon this thread turned into, like other threads, a battleground for negativity. I backed away from this thread for that reason. As for posting something 'nice' for the ladies, i've found that no matter what I post, be it pictures of beautiful sisters, dating advice, honest perspectives from a single male's point of view, song lyrics/music video links, etc I get nothing but crapped on. It's...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: How The Bush Administration Hurts The Black Community

Kevin41 ·
Man shut up with that self-importantce bullschit this morning Lofton..no one gives a fuck about what you think or your weird azz writing style you picked up from the ward....you're the joke Lofton...you grew up to be someone so alienated from your own that you seek out white racists for affiliation...now talking about jokes....do you really think those hateful azz inbreds at stormfront take you seriously? hell no...you're like ward coonerly and the rest....racists find you useful to help...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
Hmmm...that's probably due to Augustinian influence in Christian thought. Modern Christianity took Augustine's philosophy that the material world is something of a "curse", and that physical bodies are crass and disgusting. Many Christian basically view the body as little more than a prison for an idealized fluffy, wraith-like soul. That's why I find Tantric Buddhist philosophy on the soul so refreshing. It goes beyond this Cartesian Dualism of "body" and "soul", and it describes the body...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
Black Middle Class vs. "American" Middle Class? What's "American"? "White"? Aren't African-Americans AMERICANS too?
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
An aggreagate of all Americans versus African Americans.
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
Oh, now I get it. In comparison to other middle class communities of other races, unfortunately the Black Middle Class seems to be busy trying to emmulate the White Middle Class. A community of selfish, over-privileged "rugged individualists" with that tired old "conservative Protestant work ethic" of "everyone pull yourself up by your own bootstraps". Pesonally, I think African-Americans need to get away from this "middleclassness" mentality. We should be concerned about improving our...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Guest ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

James Wesley Chester ·
Aren't African-Americans AMERICANS too?---empty Purnata Yes. In fact African Americans are African American-Americans. I couldn't resist. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
To anyone interested... Rough Crossings : Britain, the Slaves and the American Revolution - $49.95 Simon Schama "Set against the backdrop of the American Revolution and its aftermath, Rough Crossings is the gripping, astonishing epic of the struggle for freedom by tens of thousands of slaves who believed that their future as free men and women was bound up with staying British, not becoming American. The decision to offer slaves who defected to the British their liberty began in military...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Guest ·
Dr. Kevin: It is clear that you prefer a Black man who you can easily draw upon. You prefer to have Black folks commit to simple "Yes or No" questions rather than be able to justify their positions. I am convinced that you are more comfortable with a Black man who doesn't know much BUT who supports your position and when challenged resorts to the cry of RACISM rather than a Black man who DISAGREES WITH YOU AND CAN ARTICULATE WHY HE THINKS THAT WAY. YOU ARE A SHORT SIGHTED IDEOLOGUE (read - a...
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Re: **Constantine: The Father of Christianity[With Just A Hint of Paganism!]??**

Empty Purnata ·
But, these Desert Fathers were not following the type of Christianity that you follow. If I posted to you some of their theological/spiritual/philosophical beliefs, you would call them "heretics". Origien believed in Trinitarian/Monistic Emanationism (as opposed to Creationism), he believed in Universal Salvation (everyone eventually goes to Heaven), he believed that Christ died an Exemplary death (not a Sacrificial/Atonement death), he believed in reincarnation, he believed in the...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
LOL! Apparently for Condoleeza Rice, J.C. Watts, Armstrong Williams, Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, "Rev." Jesse Lee Peterson, Juan Williams and Clarence Thomas; Affirmative Action was just fine WHEN THEY BENEFITTED FROM IT. Now that they have "made it" up the ladder, they want to kick it down so other Blacks can't use it. They want to be the only House Negroids in Massa's house. They can't have other Negroids stealing their spotlight! Got-damn Kneegrows. They can't stand Affirmative Action...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
Actually some views that are considered "socially conservative", I disagree that they are limited to social "conservatism". I don't view centering on family and morals as "conservative" because many social "liberals" do the same. I also don't necessarily anti-racism to be "liberal".
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Fine ·
The Rev. Gregory Daniels is a baffling idiot. His statement sounds almost as preverse as the actions of the NAACP who in 1977 defended the KKK in Dayton, OH while irrantly proclaiming that every American deserved a fair chance... IMHO most of these Rev Chicken Wing, Pastor Pork Chop types make me sick with their twisted rhetoric. They mislead the congregations who cling to their every word while adhering to a flair of un-sense of history. Amazing.
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Re: Exploring a Stereotype

Black Viking ·
That is a very good point. What exactly is "hyperaggressiveness"? For one person to be observed as more aggressive than another is one thing. For an entire group of people to be characterized as more aggressive there has to be a standard of aggressiveness. Do whites get to set the standard for everything that we do?!
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
The key distinction is OWNERSHIP AND POWER. Those who have both SEEK TO PROTECT THEIR POSSESSION. Those who don't have them seek to LIBERALIZE the rules and have more of these resources to flow their way. When it comes to international aide and financing the liberalist American sounds very CONSERVATIVE. When it comes to understanding the plight of the Mexican father to depart his family and come to the United States illegally in order to work and feed his family it seems that many of you are...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
What are the great acheivements that Asian Americans make in this country? Where is the strong bloc of Asian Americans in Congress and American politics? Where are the Asian CEO's of Fortune 500 companies? Who are the great Asian American artists, entertainers, writers, musicians? How is the Asian American community supporting their native Asian countries, communities, people? I guess you speak admiringly of this community because in large part they are segregated from the mainstream of...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
True, these are sadly too absent from the Asian-American Community. There are good Asian-American musicians, artists and entertainers, I'm not sure I would say the entertainers are "great" (as in universally notoriable). Just like Afrian-Americans, Asian-Americans also face a glass ceiling in this country as well. They are expected by White Americans to be nothing more than businessmen and scientists. Just keep serving YT and keep their noses to the grind. I think some Asian-American...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
OK, I will entertain this idea. Please explain how giving sufficient painkillers to some Black kid with a broken arm will threaten those in power? Please explain what benefit the American health system has in providing a lower level of medical care Blacks? I'm surprised you haven't argued the other way, b/c more healthy people equals less time lost on jobs, less time spent on unemployment or disability funds, and more productivity all around. That in turn equals more money flowing through...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
There have been plenty of studies done on racial disparities on medical treatment. SOME have shown that even Black practitioners provide a lower standard of care to Black patients. In my view it has to do with the amount of insurance that is available to the individual based on the job that they work, the general standard of the medical facility itself (as compared to one in a more wealthy facility and YES plain ole racism. Michael has documented the tale of shoddy medical care at MLK...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
To be clear, it is not my intent to deride the Asian American community in any way, just to compare it to the achievements of the African American one. CF constantly shits on African American culture while praising Asian American culture. Since he also seems to like to talk about "results" - then let's see them. If we are so dysfunctional why are we out-performing them; this while also enduring a myriad of additional obstacles to our success?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Perhaps novice teachers may discuss this issue on a day-to-day basis; however, just like in any other profession, after gaining experience, knowing how to teach students becomes second nature. Sure, that's one of the purposes for attending the workshop: to network with other teachers. Other purposes include exposure to new teaching strategies and better ways to assess students. Jean Piaget (1896-1980) and Lev Vygotsky (1986), both pioneers in the field of educational research, believes...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Guest ·
I think that this is such a relevant and interesting topic, I decided to bump it back up to the top of the discussion board. When I was in high school, I was fortunate enough to go to a presidential library and browse through the declassified files of that administration. I was incensed to discover that long before WWII so-called American citizens were being spied on and massive amounts of information was being documented an stored on non-violent organizations. Organizations such as the...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

HonestBrother ·
Kresge, that's a good question. I suppose the immediate context is Melesi's accusation that I don't give his posts a fair reading. But to be fair, it goes far beyond that. As a single non-Christian, who has just moved to a new town, living in the Bible belt, in a place where the first thing people ask you when they meet you is "Where do you go to church?", in a place where even in the online dating community the women all declare "You can't love me if you can't love Jesus", I frankly find...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: What 'white' muso's get you groovin'?

FireFly ·
could you at least READ threads before you post? what's your freakin point? the question, one more time... WHAT WHITE MUSIC/MUSO'S (IF ANY) MAKE YOU MOVE? gee whiz, why would I ask that question on an African American site? Ummmmmmmm.... maybe coz I am curious. You want to start a thread that asks "what black muso's get you movin'" then just do it. Hey... it's really easy to do. .
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
Here we go again folks. KEVIN - Can you tell me WHO ON THIS BOARD has the qualifications to "TEACH YOU SCHIT"? I know that you are intellectually SUPERIOR to most of us. The fact that you have been bestowed a the certification of "doctorate" by the American education which attempts to certify the KNOWLEDGE and LEARNING that a person acquires. We all know that a Black man, having not finished high school and never gone to college - COULD GO TO THE LIBRARY FOR YEARS AND YEARS (as I see some...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
Kevin: Let me give you some CONTEXT to your statements above. Inevitably there will be some over the top incident that a Black person or group of Blacks commit. Rather than condemn THIS PARTICULAR EVENT and clearly articulate how THIS EVENT HAS VIOLATED EVERYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE....... You (and my enemy Isome) will IMMEDIATELY do a web search and find and occassion in which WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT THE OUTRAGE HAS NOT FOLLOWED. So Kevin - does this benefit the Black victim...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
How about the law which gives Congress the right to authorize the President to declare war?
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Sweetwuzzy ·
African Americans are out-performing Asian americans??? We outperform them in politics, and representation across the board, but Asian Americans make more income than any other group including white americans. And they do excellent when it comes to education.
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
So they get good grades and get good jobs. Where is the impact of their achievement on American society? Again, I have no interest in denigrating the Asian community. CF makes the connection between culture and achievement. He constantly praises their culture and assassinates ours. I simply ask the question - if their culture is so wonderful and if culture and achievement are connected, then where is the impact in America of that superior culture? CF likes their culture, I believe, precisely...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

kresge ·
Perhaps in part, but I think that it is more deeply rooted in the particular experiences of oppression in the African American community,e.g., they hypersexualization of the African in the white mind which fulled the physical and social emasculation of African men, contributed to the rape and abuse of African women. In the wake of this, African Americans have tended to come down hard what they deem as sexual perversions that might perpetuate what they believe to be destructive stereotypes of...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Nmaginate ·
Constructive Feedback?? Sunnubian?? Comments on the actual question at hand? And that set of questions make up one whole question to the tune of the one quoted, in bold, above. Now, with Asian-Americans "making more income" than any other group and excelling in education... YOUR ANSWERS? As for these blanket statements:So please make sure you are comparing Like Sets in every demographical sense. And even with that... YOUR ANSWERS?
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Re: Sistah Souljah

powerflower ·
I read the Coldest Winter Ever and didn't find it as profound as a lot of people make it out to be. It is an interesting read and Souljah makes some good points that promote interesting discussion, but before I read the book it was presented to me like: "Gurl, you have to read this. This is the best book I ever read. This book is deep. I think it should be required reading for all young Black women." Maybe it's just that I heard too much of the hype before actually reading the book and that...
 
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