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US Military Drones' Big Hint

sunnubian ·
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Norland ·
It's beyond insanity when human beings have to drop bombs and shred people into spaghetti on a mass scale to obtain mucho money and get their point across to fellow human beings. There are no words for that crap and it's been going on endlessly. The men of the world don't even have minds anymore. They're sicker than sick and dangerous as hell. Try talking to folks for a change. God didn't send us here with bombs, but he did provide vocal chords.
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Re: Report: Obama Ordered US Military Strike on YEMEN

EbonyRose ·
Reference: The doctrine of "Pre-emptive Strike" would seem to be as unethical now as it was during the Bush II administration. The government of Yemen is not at war with USA nor has there been any published information that YEMEN has sent any missiles to strike us. Striking "terrorism" in any and every poor country renders null and void the concept of sovereignty and puts USA squarely in the realm of IMPERIALISM, which is not a good look for a "democracy". I would disagree. Just because our...
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: If we continue the get them before they get us doctrine, then trust me, you will see more attacks in other areas that were not considered part of these terrorism hubs in the near future. Agreed, OCatchings ... but ... the reality is, there's going to be attacks one way or the other!! Wherever they are ... if you don't 'get them' they are not going to stop 'getting us'! I mean .. if you really take a good, long, hard look at WHO the enemy here ... it's obvious that they are never...
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US-Funded Armies Slaughtering Record Number of Elephants

sunnubian ·
Published on Tuesday, September 4, 2012 by Common Dreams US-Funded Armies Slaughtering Record Number of Elephants - Common Dreams staff The illegal elephant ivory trade is reaching record levels and “Africa is in the midst of an epic elephant slaughter,” reports the New York Times . As demand for elephant ivory grows in China, more and more poachers, including some of Africa’s most infamous armed groups, are killing elephants to cash in. Tens of thousands of elephants are being killed every...
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Re: Report: Obama Ordered US Military Strike on YEMEN

Nquest ·
Reference: Did I say it was not deserved? You certainly didn't say it was "deserved" (your choice of words, not mine) when you said: "The United States was targeted and attacked by extremist terrorists on 09/11/01. And this same murderous group of people - AND SOME, after Bush's irresponsible antagonism of the hatred that was festering in that area already - are still TODAY intent on doing the same if not worse kind of harm. ... They are on a murderous rampage to terrorize and kill. They are...
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Vox ·
Well, with this last post, you basically have expressed the situation in a way that is pretty much exactly in line with the way I see it. Deep down, the Islamists are against non-Muslims -- particularly, a non-Muslim presence of any kind in what they see as "muslim lands." Our disagreement, if any, lies in the fact that I don't value-judge America's interest in oil, but I do value-judge the tendency for extremist Muslims to have a beef with another country exercising its need for oil in...
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NSpirit ·
Reference: And the worst part about it is that none of those morons had no idea who they were about to &*@% with! There's no rules with these people! They don't follow some legal code of war ... there's no 'gentleman's rules', no handshake in this type of warfare. They kill civilians. They're using them as human shields. They are willing to die ... if it means killing other people in the process. And are willing to do that for as long as it takes ... until they've "won". Which would be...
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Vox ·
Reference: I think the chain of events is as follows. Oil resources and interest leads to US policy and military usurping upon the Hegemony of Oil rich countries. In turn, as a reaction to those actions, groups and individuals from those countries/lands attempt to attack America and in trun we escalate our military involvement in thos lands, which in turn escalates the desire to attack America by people from these lands. Its a CYCLE initiated by our interest in Oil. Therefore, the reason...
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Sweetwuzzy ·
This is all for show. There are several nations with terrorist hubs. Is the US also going to bomb Nigeria, which has issues in some regions with radical islam. This is a multi-national problem. Attacking or invading countries will make this worse...
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Noah The African ·
I think the chain of events is as follows. Oil resources and interest leads to US policy and military usurping upon the Hegemony of Oil rich countries. In turn, as a reaction to those actions, groups and individuals from those countries/lands attempt to attack America and in trun we escalate our military involvement in thos lands, which in turn escalates the desire to attack America by people from these lands. Its a CYCLE initiated by our interest in Oil. Therefore, the reason that People in...
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Noah The African ·
Reference: Did I say it was not deserved? Please don't go all Noah on me .... one of him more than enough No...you did not say it was not deserved....but if you feel the attack on the US was deserved....then how do you justify retaliation and pre emptive strikes by the Obama adminstration? You talk in circles.
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EbonyRose ·
Okay. I will admit that I don't see what the problem is here. And I have to start out by asking (and this is not meant to be sarcastic or to ridicule) but ... for those who are upset about this ... was there some expectation that as president, President Obama was never going to drop a bomb or order military action during his presidency based on him being 'a man of peace' or as he has stated several times, not in favor of war? I ask because I never even considered that to be a possibility. To...
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Vox ·
This "USA not at war with Yemen" stuff is extremely oversimplistic. YEMEN has for some time been fighting islamist rebels. I remember some time ago reading how some sort of military operation was going on there backed by the Saudis and Americans on behalf of the Yemeni government, against rebels who were being backed by Iran, and that it wasn't the first time. It was during the Thanksgiving week that I read about that. The issue is against the Islamist rebels, and Al-Qaeda, not with Yemen's...
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Noah The African ·
Reference: The doctrine of "Pre-emptive Strike" would seem to be as unethical now as it was during the Bush II administration. The government of Yemen is not at war with USA nor has there been any published information that YEMEN has sent any missiles to strike us. Striking "terrorism" in any and every poor country renders null and void the concept of sovereignty and puts USA squarely in the realm of IMPERIALISM, which is not a good look for a "democracy". THANK YOU!!!
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Noah The African ·
Reference: This "USA not at war with Yemen" stuff is extremely oversimplistic. YEMEN has for some time been fighting islamist rebels. I remember some time ago reading how some sort of military operation was going on there backed by the Saudis and Americans on behalf of the Yemeni government, against rebels who were being backed by Iran, and that it wasn't the first time. It was during the Thanksgiving week that I read about that. The issue is against the Islamist rebels, and Al-Qaeda, not...
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Noah The African ·
The current strategy in our “war on terror” is totally unsustainable. The idea that we must spend billions of resource trying to eradicate terrorism where they gather to plot will bankrupt this nation. Terrorism is metastasizing beyond the Middle East and we cannot afford to keep chasing them everywhere. My question is, however, when will the US strike London, because that city seems to have a lot of terrorist passing through.
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Vox ·
Reference: Reference: Well I think that ("The issue is against the Islamist rebels, and Al-Qaeda, not with Yemen's government") is the line that terrorist also use. They are not at war with the American people, but rather the government and its policies. This might have been a reasonable analogy, except that here you actually have the Yemeni government attacking the same group the US is supposedly bombing there. quote: (I haven't figured out how to do this yet): "The problem is that the...
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Re: Too fat to fight? Are School Lunches a National Security Threat?

Kocolicious ·
You know....this is kinda off topic but on point. Some parents are to blame for exposing their children to bad eating habits. Take birthdays for instance. Instead of making a homemade cake, cooking real food [so kids can SEE what a real potato/tomato etc look like and having the celebration in the backyard [socializing with community] like old times, new parents are spending a gang of money taking their children to Chucky Cheese or other kid friendly places that do NOT provide healthy foods...
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Re: Too fat to fight? Are School Lunches a National Security Threat?

Cholly ·
Koco, that was a great point and from a military's prespective, especially in terms of the Army and Marines, this overall pre-conditioned lethargic, lazy, tech savvy and privledged "it's all about me" nature of today's children only causes the military to wash out at a much higher percentage of soldiers before the 6 weeks of basic training ends. In the past, teenage recruits came directly from the streets into military basic training on average, at a decent level of physical fitness (the...
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Kocolicious ·
Yep...exactly! Brotha Cholly. And the thing is...some parent WON'T listen! Them...[this is terrible/ bad english...but!] themselves are immature....and are TRULY the LAZY ones. Cuz they don't wanna do the work required to raise healthy, self-sufficient adults. It's easy to go to Chucky Cheese....or buy those $400 tennis shoes or other riduclous expensive items...just to prove to the outside WORLD that they can afford it...when in actuality...they. can NOT! There is more to lose than just...
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Too fat to fight? Are School Lunches a National Security Threat?

Cholly ·
In an effort to encourage young Americans to join the military, a number of military leaders have come out swinging against school lunches, saying the high calorie, unhealthy food choices are contributing to the obesity rate of young people, making them unfit for military service and thereby endangering our national security. According to the statement issued by a group of retired military officers regarding their "Mission: Readiness" report, 9 million young adults, or 27 percent of all...
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NSpirit ·
Ebony Rose said: I do not understand the shock, unless it was expected that he would do everything except use military means to try to stop terrorist activity. And considering the tactics that terrorists use as their means of war ... I can't see simply trying to use 'diplomacy' to try to stop them as ever having a snowball's chance in hell of being successful. The doctrine of "Pre-emptive Strike" would seem to be as unethical now as it was during the Bush II administration. The government of...
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ocatchings ·
I think I said it in the past on a previous post, but in case I didn't, here it is again. One of the reasons I retired was during my last all expense gov't paid vacation, the information I was looking at daily on the "War on Terror" (cue echo) didn't add up to what the media and gov't at the time were saying. I viewed reports of *missions* and *targets* worldwide. Whoever is classified as the enemy based on religion, groups, or locale, people just don't realize the "enemy" didn't wake up one...
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Noah The African ·
The problem I have with ER’s analysis is that she continues to talk about what Obama has inherited ...implying that Obama would do no such thing IF NOT for what Bush did that he is cleaning up. If she is not implying that, then it’s superfluous to mention what Obama inherited. It's like when people argue that Obama is only running up deficits…..because he inherited deficits from Bush. In other words, if Bush never had created deficits during his term, then Obama would not be doing so. If...
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Report: Obama Ordered US Military Strike on YEMEN

NSpirit ·
Excerpted from Amy Goodman's interview on DemocracyNow.org http://www.democracynow.org/20...d_us_military_strike "AMY GOODMAN: Last week’s strikes on alleged al-Qaeda hideouts come in the midst of the Yemeni government’s battle against a rebellion in the north and a growing secessionist movement in the south. Saudi Arabia is backing Yemen’s five-year-old war in the north, and Yemeni rebel forces claim that Saudi air strikes Sunday night killed fifty-four people. For more, I’m joined now from...
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Noah The African ·
The war on terror is really a war for resources or resource control. Yemen instability threatens the oil fields of Saudi Arabia. We are in Afghanistan for the oil pipeline route. We went into Iraq to privatize the oil. We are destabilizing Iran because a growth of them as a nuclear and military power would give them great influence over the oil well in the Middle East. The true terror is that our system is scared to death that oil potentially threatens the stability of our oil dependent...
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NSpirit ·
Reference: I think I said it in the past on a previous post, but in case I didn't, here it is again. One of the reasons I retired was during my last all expense gov't paid vacation, the information I was looking at daily on the "War on Terror" (cue echo) didn't add up to what the media and gov't at the time were saying. I viewed reports of *missions* and *targets* worldwide. Whoever is classified as the enemy based on religion, groups, or locale, people just don't realize the "enemy" didn't...
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NSpirit ·
I wonder how the USA "striking" a country that can't even feed and water its citizens be justified? Water, Food Shortages Squeeze Yemen http://www.npr.org/templates/s...php?storyId=90328214 The global food crisis has hit particularly hard in Yemen. Already one of the poorest countries by many measures, this nation of roughly 22 million people has been struck by severe droughts and depleted water supplies in recent years. With a central government already struggling to deal with political...
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EbonyRose ·
Yemen opposes any US troops in terror fight By LEE KEATH, Associated Press Writer SAN'A, Yemen – Yemen 's foreign minister said Wednesday that his country opposes any direct intervention by U.S. or other foreign troops in the fight against al-Qaida. Foreign Minister Abu Bakr al-Qirbi told The Associated Press in an interview that "there is a lot of sensitivity about foreign troops coming to Yemeni territory." His comments came as Yemeni security forces launched a manhunt for the suspected...
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Why Is the US Military Averaging More Than a Mission a Day in Africa?

sunnubian ·
Why Is the US Military Averaging More Than a Mission a Day in Africa? The officers running secret operations there have been calling Africa "the battlefield of tomorrow, today." Nick Turse March 27, 2014 Share A US Special Forces trainer supervises a military assault drill for a unit within the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) in Nzara. (Reuters/Andreea Campean) This article originally appeared at TomDispatch.com . To stay on top of important articles like these, sign up to receive the...
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Re: Military Strategist, Slavery Opponent Queen Nzinga Died On This Day In 1663

Kocolicious ·
Isn't that something? Portguese had hold on Angola until 1975!!! There are so many stories regarding her sitting on the backs on her servants. But the real story was that the whites was appauled that SHE thought so much of herself and didn't wanna sit on the floor because she was ROYALTY. You see massa NEVER wanted to give us respect even when we DESERVED it....I mean we deserve it anyway...but! Royalty? The way European slobber over the Royal families and these neanderthals couldn't...
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NSpirit ·
umm..... Isn't it odd that a Nobel PEACE prize winning president would EXPAND the war on terror to YEMEN????? Is this another IRAQ? WTH is the USA doing striking YEMEN? and when will the War on Terror actually end? Is it a coincidence that the Nigerian Underpants Bomber who had been visiting YEMEN attempted to bomb a flight to detroit after these USA military strikes? Going into Aghanistan/Pakistan (Af-Pak)was mentioned during the campaign season, but WTH is the USA doing striking YEMEN?
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Yemaya ·
As it was pointed out in the article, Yemen has been fighting their own war on terror before 9/11. Its also a fact that Osama Bin Laden sought refuge in Yemen on a couple of ocassions, this was during the Clinton Administration, as he traveled through the Middle East into Africa. I'm not sure of exactly this means in terms of the current war, but Yemen doesn't appear to be a threat at this time, but hey they have people who run intelligence on these types of things.
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NSpirit ·
"The Yemeni Government has cooperated with the United States in the War on Terror" If the Yemeni government requested that the USA provide some help, then this could be legit but even then it's questionable since a significant portion of the conflict there seems to be conflicts between a secessionist group and the majority. It's more warmongering. It was "intelligence" that was used as a pretext for the iraq war. If Bin Laden was said to be in the mountainous region between afghanistan and...
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Cholly ·
Besides the fact that Yemen is/has been considered a "failing state", highly corrupt and improverished, is emerging as a safe haven; fall back position & base for Al-Qaeda operations & attacks as the terrorist group comes under pressure in both Pakistan and Afghanistan as the U.S. continues to build politically and militarily in both those countries. It seems that as the U.S. and it's allies make more progress moving the war forward in both Pakistan and Afghanstan hunting the...
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Nquest ·
Reference: The war on terror is really a war for resources or resource control. Obviously. And, you know, I think there's a solid majority of Americans who have absolutely no problem with the idea. It's funny how when we first sent troops to Afghanistan there were mainstream news reports about the value/building of the Caspian oil pipeline... but no more.
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: The problem I have with ER’s analysis is that she continues to talk about what Obama has inherited ...implying that Obama would do no such thing IF NOT for what Bush did that he is cleaning up. It would be nice if you could EVER just deal with the simple facts of what somebody else has said ... instead of retreating up into "Noah's World" and coming out with extraneous, made up, shyt that is only realistic in your own mind!! And lord knows you shouldn't try to interpret what other...
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Nquest ·
Reference: And lord knows you shouldn't try to interpret what other people are "implying" because you have NEVER gotten that right!! Then cries like a little thin skinned baby when people point out flaws in his rhetoric/logic coping the same plea: that his words are taken out of context (though they were not), misinterpreted and misunderstood. But, handicapped by a woeful lack of skills, Noah delights in perpetrating the very things he accuses other people of doing to him. Because of that,...
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Noah The African ·
I read what people write and it triggers a general response. Your single opinion, ER, in the big picture, is meaningless. You are not the only person who talks about what Obama has inherited. Hell, Obama himself has spent the vast majority of his presidency doing that and whether you personally blame Bush for all the problems of today, many, many other people who talk of what Obama has inherited does. For me it just seems so hypocritical to hear people who bashed Bush for doing certain...
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Nquest ·
Reference: The United States was targeted and attacked by extremist terrorists on 09/11/01. I see somebody got the cause and effect backwards...
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Noah The African ·
ER...you are one of the most shallow posters on this forum. Actions beget reactions. The temporal continuum is a chain of actions and reactions. Maybe THEY are the ENEMY because our nation and its policies have been the enemy to their culture and beliefs. Maybe the CIA has been terrorizing their their lands in an effort to control their government in an effort to control their resources. The FBI under J. Edgar Hoover considered "black militancy" the number one threat to the internal security...
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: I see somebody got the cause and effect backwards... Did I say it was not deserved? Please don't go all Noah on me .... one of him more than enough.
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: If you argued that 9/11 was "deserved" then But that's just point ... I never did argue whether or not it was deserved. And it was never my intent to do so. My statement: The United States was targeted and attacked by extremist terrorists on 09/11/01. ... is concise and self-contained besides the point of whether it was deserved or not. I never said nor intimated whether or not I thought the attack was deserved. I simply said it happened. If you had wanted to know whether or not I...
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EbonyRose ·
Clinton: Yemen instability threatens global security From Elise Labott , CNN VIDEO http://us.cnn.com/video/?/vide...n.yemen.briefing.cnn WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Monday called the situation in Yemen a possible threat to regional and global security. "We see global implications from the war in Yemen and the ongoing efforts by al Qaeda in Yemen to use it as a base for terrorist attacks far beyond the region," Clinton said after a meeting with the prime...
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NSpirit ·
Reference: "We see global implications from the war in Yemen and the ongoing efforts by al Qaeda in Yemen to use it as a base for terrorist attacks far beyond the region," Clinton said after a meeting with the prime minister of Qatar. Gee, I wonder if the citizens of Yemen would rather have food than bombs? irrigation projects than airstrikes? Cash for public works to put their largely unemployed young male population to work or death and destruction at the hands of the USA rooting around in...
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: Gee, I wonder if the citizens of Yemen would rather have food than bombs? irrigation projects than airstrikes? Cash for public works to put their largely unemployed young male population to work or death and destruction at the hands of the USA rooting around in their country for a relatively small number of nutjobs operating under the al quaida banner? Those nutjobs have bombs, too.
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Nquest ·
Reference: But that's just point ... I never did argue whether or not it was deserved. And it was never my intent to do so. lol Talking in circles, indeed. Earlier, EbonyRose posted: Did I say it was not deserved? Okay, ER, what was your intent when you responded to my post raising that question using that word (deserved) which you introduced into this thread? Did you or did you not "intend" on using that word AND what was I supposed to think when you ask me that question?
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EbonyRose ·
Reference: Okay, ER, what was your intent when you responded to my post raising that question using that word (deserved) which you introduced into this thread? Did you or did you not "intend" on using that word AND what was I supposed to think when you ask me that question? My intent when I responded to your post was quite different than my intent when I posted my original statement that the U.S. had been attacked by extremist. Your post, which stated that "somebody got their cause and...
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Nquest ·
Reference: Oh wait, were you talking about the United States Military Industrial Complex? It's like she's on the payroll (or scare roll). It's a trip how people, EbonyRose in this case, only seem to be concerned about the killing of civilians when people in the U.S. are on the receiving end. ER claims she acknowledges the cause and effect... but, for some reason, saves all her adjectives for those terrorists (re)acting to past U.S. actions. Somehow, the terrorists are the aggressors or, at...
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