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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kevin41 ·
That goes right along with what I stated is a big problem with education..is that we teach kids thing to learn but not learning concepts such as comprehension and retention........
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kweli4Real ·
But I would argue that the real travesty is that children are not being encouraged/taught to "connect the dots", to draw conclusions or extrapolate results from current data. I remember back in the day, my public school friends were asked on tests questions like, "On what date did the Spanish Armada sail?" This is not much different from the rote learning required under NCLB; Whereas, exams at my prep-school asked, "In 1588, the Spanish launched a naval attack on Endland. Discuss the likely...
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Re: We lost almost a full percentage in IT workforce count over 9 year period

Dusty Elbow ·
The economic unit model on that picture. Is that a house, our economy or any goods in general? How does the economist come into the picture with this. It looks like depreciation is sneaking out the backdoor. Since there is net worth I googled a search for "gross worth" and a page says they are both the same. Not many pages talk about "gross worth" with google results coming at... Results 1 - 100 of about 726 for "gross worth". (1.38 seconds) with "net worth" googled at Results 1 - 100 of...
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Re: Chocolate--The Drug of Choice

Rowe ·
I'm a former Lindt and Godiva chocolate addict. And believe it or not, when I was a teenager, I once ate an entire bag of Reeses peanut butter cups, in one setting! That's how much I loved chocolate. Now that I'm health consciousness, however, I don't eat chocolate at all, because it's difficult to find chocolate without the processed sugar, milk, eggs, and perservatives that are often added to the chocolate for taste. Pure chocolate is very bitter, and so sugar is added to weaken the the...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

Rowe ·
The following passages are excerpts taken from author Rosemary Radford Ruether's, Sexism and Godtalk: Toward A Feminist Theology . Woman, Body, and Nature: Sexism and the Theology of Creation 1) "The establishment of this relationship between male and female spheres depends not only on males as definers of culture but also on the burdening of women with most of the tedious, day-to-day tasks of economic production. Males become a leisure class with relatively little to do but decorate...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
No, because Black children are not White or Asian children. Black children are just as academically capable, smart, and competent as other children , but because they are Black, they are often times treated differently than other children, particularly in academic environments. Thus, whatever "academic handicaps" that Black students develop as result of past and present mistreatment is not "self-inflicted," but inflicted upon them by society. And this is what "racial identity education"...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Isome ·
Oh' bother... as Winnie the Pooh would say! Rose & Milton Friedman scholar... enough said? Those people are at the heart of trying to dismantle public school education with vouchers. It's like many people have said, black-faced lackeys carrying water for their unalike handlers.
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Re: Question for Kresge?

FireFly ·
hello Rowe, thanks for contributing. Yes, I agree with your comments immediately above. As it is I have always had a few 'issues' with Christianity and some of its concepts even though I was raised as a christian in my family but we 'won't go there'. I'm sure it's obvious I have a very limited education of world religions, and have been slowly reading up about all the 'alternatives'. I still find flaws but to date, the closest religion I find favour with has been Hinduism. African religions...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Are you saying that Dr. Sowell said otherwise (with respect to the first phrase of your response)? Who are these people who are treating Black kids differently than these "OTHER CHILDREN"? As our public school increase their REsegregation they are more likely to sit next to other Black kids and increasingly be taught by Black teachers. I can speak from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE about how more than 20 years ago when I was in high school I had the dual roll of being in the "Rapid Track" in my high...
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
Is having schools compete for students beneficial to childrens education ???---Sweetwuzzy Yes. As I said on another current thread, by MBM I think, that very competition is the only leverage (money) that can force a change, and improvement hopefully in the current construction of our public school system(s) I also think Nmaginate's point is key. Why is it we don't 'jump on' the petitions for federal funding of the private schools that enable European kids evade the requirement for...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Please review the 20/20 Special on Education in which they traveled to Belgium to consider why they outperform AMERICAN CHILDREN of all races. Educational funding gets applied to the CHILD and not the school system. The kids are allowed to obtain educational services from any outlet the parents choose. This creates COMPETITION for quality educational services. The problem is that many American educational advocates are seeking to PROTECT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM rather than EDUCATING OUR...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
Thats exactly what I said. The money is attached to the child . And this creates competition.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
I agree. Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??
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Re: Vouchers ???

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I have little doubt that this is your ultimate goal. It is interesting, however, that the very teachers unions HERE IN AMERICA are "further to the left on the political spectrum" BUT they advance concepts that are HARMFUL to the education of the kids while they promote job protection. It could be that we should EXPECT the teachers unions to advocate for their members best interests BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE KIDS BEST INTERESTS IN MIND AND THUS THEY SHOULD NOT BE LOOKED...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

MBM ·
I'm not sure what you are asking. Clearly there is a positive correlation between consumer debt and bankruptcy. That that correlation increases exponentially with greater debt is intuitive. What specifically are you asking? "consumer depreciation business"? Are you just noting that consumers are, on average, buying more "stuff" now than before and financing it with consumer debt? Are you inferring that the whole idea of the American Dream is something that is designed to advance consumerism...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
ok MBM... here's a start. Hope it's not too abstract or nebulous a list. Freedom of speech and opinion. Freedom to make choices. Equal rights for everyone. Accessiblity to quality healthcare for all. Inclusion for all in the workplace and education system. Including language, culture. A culture of ethical business. Religious freedom. Quality education for all. Respect for everyone. Equal opportunity. Shared responsibility. . that's all I can come up with right now.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Well, if that's anything close to his idea then surely he realizes that the schools are a reflection of the society. It's an indictment of the society, it's contradications and conflicting motives and myths. There is no way, save a DUMB one, to intelligently maintain that the conditions of American schools are the product of any one cause or culprit. The fact that schools, those that are less than up to par are what they are reflect on this society's commitment to education above politics...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
This statement is incorrect. According to research studies, most students who apply (and are accepted) into teacher education programs are White females. In fact, school systems across the country have and still are reporting a shortage in Black and Latino teachers, particularly Black male teachers. In response to this shortage, school systems have partnered with teacher education programs across the country in an effort to recruit more minority teachers. Please refer to the thread " Are...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! PUSSY!!! Over << here >> PUSSY!!! Man, I feel like the Gap Band singing, "You Can't Keep Runnin'"... But your PUNK ASS is full of sprints. Why is it that RHETORIC is the only and best tool in your busted ass tool box, CON-Feed? Never the one to engage. So you just BULLSHIT! Now, let's have it. What is the source of your Flailing, Grasping ISSUES? You obviously will never understand or submit to comprehending ENLISH!!! What's up with this connection you're trying to...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

umbrarchist ·
That is an interesting sentence. What is the reality of a dream, any dream? I don't give a damn about any dreams. I am talking about understanding reality and manipulating it into a more desireable future reality. The future is coming and will enentually be the current reality, but what it will be like depends on decisions we make and actions we take today. But our decisions depend on our understanding of current reality. That association between income and security for instance. There are...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Sandye ·
IMHO, we should be striving to become a unified, self-sufficient African American community. We should encourage and support small individuals who have the potential to be the next Donald Trump or Bill Gates. We should establish more of our own banks, improve our urban "blight", develop business and professional incubators to enable us to decrease our dependency on those who seek our demise rather than our growth. Education is certainly key to self-sufficiency and we should strive to...
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
The competition argument doesn't fly. It's bogus from top to bottom, unless schools are going to be changed to for-profit entities, "competition" does nothing. If the change is what's being suggested however, then the proponents of "competition" have not considered the logical chain of events, which includes refusing admittance to the "least among us", in order to maintain or boost student performance and increase profits.---Tsome It is not 'the logical change of events' of competition to...
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Faheem ·
About a month or so ago there was a panel discussion on C-SPAN about Politics and Humor, Vernon Jordan was on this panel. He was the last to be introduced and while all the white panelist education, career accomplishments were mentioned as they were being introduced, the first thing the white guy who introduced everyone said about Vernon Jordan was that he is articulate and Vernon Jordan just grinned like a good Negro.
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Re: Vouchers ???

MBM ·
Vouchers is an insincere effort that sacrifices the future of our children to accomplish political objectives. No one that is serious about education or our children can take it seriously.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
What GROUNDS do you have for any of these statements MBM? It seems to me that you seek to protect the current public school distribution system beyond the impact that SOME of them have on the kids that are attending them. Years of promises for change seems to still pacify you today.
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Re: Vouchers ???

MBM ·
My position on vouchers is well established here. Do you believe that we should privatize the police? Do you believe that competition in police services would be a good thing? Do you believe that additional funding to equip police forces with more tools to fight crime would be a bad thing?
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

HonestBrother ·
I can attest to this. I've taught math education courses and 80% or more of the class will be white women. There will be a few black women. A handful of white males and practically no black males.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
Not public education, quality education through the siphoning off of funds by private schools. Of course it is the logical chain of events. The issue includes transferring money from public, non-profit entities to private, for-profit entities. Private entities compete with other private entities and their incentive to be the best is profit . To that end they are empowered to make student admission decisions that public schools cannot make.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Thanks for the response and the quote - on the 'surface' the concept of being 'colourblind' can be taken as something positive (by me at least), as seeing beyond race and colour - not pre-judging or discriminating between people - but with closer scruntiny is, agreeably, more along the lines of.... "...that there can be injustice in treating people the same when in relevant respects they are different, just as much as there can be in treating them differently when in relevant respects they...
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Re: Vouchers ???

MBM ·
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

EbonyRose ·
Texas Star, I see your point too. And I have to give a bit to what Honest Brother said as well. Different points of view can be just as much a good thing as a bad one. I don't think you'll find what you're looking for here in this particular forum, but I think in the other forums, such as Our Lives or the Business or the Den or the Spot or Relationship forums you find more collaberation and coming together and helping on a variety of different subjects. Perhaps you could try promoting more...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Texas Star ·
Nmaginate... I really like you, and your thoughts. Even with all your mean remarks. Maybe I wrote this all wrong. I don't even understand some of these responses. I actually just wanted to chat with you, and get to know more about you. All Im trying to do is bring blacks TOGETHER. MY ISSUE IS, I want to get to know you guys more. I don't have a dad, so maybe when look at the pics of these smart old men who seem to care about something, I just wish I could be closer or on your level. The...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

thayfen ·
WWWWhhhaaaat? Keep in mind, I am but a humble man with a H.S. education. Subtle stuff is just wasted on a Bro' such as ma' self... So, H.B., just what are you trying to say?
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Don't worry. That one was for the ladies, bro
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Nobody's saying you have to date an ugly or ignorant or disrepectful blue collar brother just because he's a brother . Likewise, a brother shouldn't feel compelled to date an unattractive (to him) sister just because of her education, wealth or career . What we are saying is that a person (man or woman) not having a "professional" job, does not make them less qualified to be a good mate. A college degree is not THE gold standard for intelligence. Ultimately, I think you have to go where your...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Quite right, but it is some Australians, not all Australians. Perhaps the most important process that has been stalled is Reconciliation. A lot of Australians want our federal government to say 'Sorry' to the members of the Stolen Generation, and the indigenous population. There has been a century-long struggle for rights for Aborigines in Australia. What has it achieved? One thing is the right to vote. That it took until the late 1960s is outrageous. Another issue is a treaty. Australia has...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

umbrarchist ·
I agree with all four somewhere between 70 and 90%. There are probably things Whites could do but they wouldn't if they had the brains to figure them out so it doesn't matter. The next thing is the education business. What exactly is meant by education and how is it done? I defined it as the acquisition of relevant knowledge on another site and linked to it from here but I haven't seen any comments. I payed Whitey $4400 for two years of Electrical Engineering in the early 70s. I didn't get a...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

thayfen ·
If I may, a little about myself:...besides my humble education: I'm 5'6", weigh 147, I'm losing my hair and I wear glasses. I have been informed on many an occasion by many a Sista, that while I have a great personality"”I'm respectful, patient, loving, generous, loyal, dedicated and funny...I'm not their "cup of tea". They loved me, but could never be "in love" with me. I understood this, kept the bitterness at bay and continue to enjoy friendships with five Sistas which has spanned these...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

James Wesley Chester ·
---Nmaginate This one of the reasons I don't like to talk to Europeans about my circumstance. My mind would make me 'write a check' my body can't cash,... anymore. Each of these points treat their respective subjects as the ONLY reason. We know no one thing is ever the ONLY thing. 'Racism', 'educational equivalency', 'no fix', and 'only we can fix' Racism is not bound by time, nor is racism defined by time. Racism is a finite structural entity of American society. It is integral to the...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Frenchy - There were three posts after qty226's response before yours. Which one touted a double standard? Here's mine again: Where's the double standard? There was no scolding. If you set looks aside, how do you know that a blue collar or non-degreed person can't be a good mate for you? Note there have been very few discussions about people's physical preferences, outside of Rowe. We are talking about personality traits. If you know that common ratio of women to men is 10 to 1 on college...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
I'm not even saying that women should "lower" their standards. Here's a list of people who probably do NOT earn 6 figures or a comparable salary Albert Einstein Add almost any college professor to this list -(even many at Ivy League Schools) Most teachers/administrators in junior colleges Teachers in elementary and secondary education Most people in literature or the arts. Etc. I could go on if a really tried but I have a life But my point is not that women need to "lower" their vision. They...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Here's a list of people who probably do NOT earn 6 figures or a comparable salary Albert Einstein Add almost any college professor to this list -(even many at Ivy League Schools) Most teachers/administrators in junior colleges Teachers in elementary and secondary education Most people in literature or the arts. Etc. I could go on if a really tried but I have a life But my point is not that women need to "lower" their vision. They need to broaden/expand their vision.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
Man, you have GOT to be kidding me. The world lets you (you meaning men in general) WANT that type of woman without reprocussions. I didn't say that's what you actually GET! OK. Now're you're putting college professors and artists on the same level as ex-cons.[/quote] YOU are the one who has been advocating that women "broaden" their idea of what the cream of the crop is and that we not go specifically for the man who makes the money or has the education. YOU are the one who took offense to...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
According to you, you're dating down to consider the men below
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
We're all looking for companions. The disagreement here is how those potential companions are ranked and chosen. Why? Because we look at pictures of supermodels in g-strings? I already posted what men are looking for, but I'll sum it up: Flexability, Integrity, Loyalty, and a Giving Nature. All other considerations are subjective and ultimately unimportant. But these four criteria a required for a man's long term health and happiness. You'll notice that there is no mention of "brains, or...
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