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Re: Issues: KATRINA

Gwalks ·
Update!! I heard from my brother Robert on Friday morning (September 2nd) around 8:00 am. He placed a call to Chicago. They were still at Charity Hospital being guarded by a S.W.A.T team, hospital security and they also had food and water. The patients had already been evacuated. My brother made another phone call on Friday evening to a sibling in FL and stated that they had been evacuated from Charity Hospital and taken to the airport for processing. News reports indicate that the airport...
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Re: Most Underrated People or Things in Our Lives

Frenchy ·
No way. Whitney has been a druggie since waaaay before Bobby arrived on the scene. Her former manager (back when she was a model at age 17) told it all. And Whitney did an interview with Sister 2 Sister magazine and said she's been a "functional junkie" since her teenage years. Both of her brothers have drug problems and we all know about how her cousin Dionne Warwick was caught at the airport with Mary Jane. SHE probably drug HIM down! He's a drinker. She's a drug addict.
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Re: Most Underrated People or Things in Our Lives

SistahSouljah ·
I never keep up with these people lol but I didn't know she was ALREADY a druggie when she came on the scene...goodness gracious.
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Re: Time to Play the Race Card.

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Shemika: This is bunk. Can you tell me that the "National Guard" was not SENT OUT? When did this occur? How did the LOGISTICS of having people flown by helicopter to the Louis Armstrong Airport and then flown to other destinations come together? JUST MAGIC? I saw a fueling plane come on the scene to resupply the military helicopters so they could remain airborn 24 hours. I guess this just came together magically as well? How was the Super Dome assigned as the storm shelter during the storm...
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Re: THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!

Michael ·
...the bottom line is, more so than the Bush Administration, our own leadership failed here. The Hurricane Katrina evacuation of Mississipi was efficient in saving more lives, because the local, and state officials moved people out of the area, as it pertains to those willing to leave, before the Hurricane hit. .....Heck, individuals from any point on the planet, who don't even live in an area, can follow weather conditions, no matter how serious, well in advance, to aid them in making a...
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Re: Time to Play the Race Card.

shemika ·
Constructive, I was referring to the commentaries made on Good Morning America today and comments by actual victims, why don't you ask them if they are telling the truth or not. They seemed to be referring the lack of urgency, not whether any thing was ever done at all. You seem to have such a commitment to the perspectives of white nay Sayers where blacks are concerned, who also feel they have a right to dictate what a black persons experience is for them instead of allowing them and others...
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Re: Issues: KATRINA

Kevin41 ·
FYI...articles that I had clipped during my readings...... KATRINA'S AFTERMATH New Orleans Mayor Backs Off Criticism Nagin's candor reached a new level when he denounced the state and federal response. But he eases up after President Bush reassures him. By David Zucchino Times Staff Writer September 3, 2005 NEW ORLEANS "” The public speaking style of New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin could be charitably described as informal, if not freewheeling. He is also known as a man who, for a politician,...
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Re: What Really Happened?

jazzdog ·
And if it was? The military leadership has already acknowledged that shooting down aircraft was a viable response to essentially a hugh guided bomb piloted by people determined to kill folks on the ground. The fact that they have since then come close to shooting down other aircraft is not a big surprise.
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Re: What Really Happened?

MBM ·
You know it's interesting. I saw a documentary on 9/11 where Cheney authorized the immediate shooting down of any aircraft that came withn a 30 mile radius of the Capitol. That said, how on Earth did flight 93 get to the Pentagon? Beyond that, why are there no videos of the plane hitting the Peantagon? In a city as modern and full of tourists as DC, no video at all? Why do we see multiple angles of the NYC attacks but not of 93? I think the plane was shot down - perhaps appropriately so. I...
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Re: "They were warned last November that New Orleans was one of the "Disasters Waiting t

sunnubian ·
_______________________________________ Taking on the Week's Big Issue Facts and Rumors: Federal Power in a State of Emergency First, a note to all the Debaters: Ordinarily, Wednesday would mark the beginning of a new week for The Debate -- it's the day a fresh topic would be introduced for discussion until the following Tuesday. But this is no ordinary week. So we're bending the rules to make room for a few more days of Hurricane Katrina, and we'll introduce next week's issue, the Roberts...
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Re: Cornel West's take on New Orleans

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
The question is "What is his bucket full of because it smells funny to me?" Unfortunately the poor people in New Orleans and other places have been listening to PHILOSOPHERS for too damned long and look at where it has led them. They need to hear new messages from people who can put forth the equation IF YOU WANT TO ATTAIN AND SUSTAIN A CERTAIN STANDARD OF LIVING THEN THIS IS WHAT YOU MUST DO AND STOP DOING IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE IT. Cornell West and many others will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER provide...
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Re: Stanley "Tookie" Williams

Michael ·
"Yes, please do. As a Los Angeles native, I happen to know that it is never reported that satistically, many of the gang-related deaths in L.A. are done by and suffered by the ruthless Hispanic gangs that have taken over where the truce between Bloods and the Crips after the '92 riots left off." by EbonyRose .....Truce..... ....an end to senseless Black on Black senseless killing, etc., etc.?????? .......you must kidding because in 2005, the bloodshed between Crips, Bloods, Crips and Crips,...
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Re: Time For Action?!?!?!?

Michael ·
Welcome NFarious, You don't have to twist my arm to make me a believer. Sleaze, criminal activity, treason, etc., is very much alive in the Black community. Eventually though, this disgraceful activity catches up with the perpetrators. It is all the more pleasing in the event an individual or group of individuals have the backbone, and factual evidence to blow the whistle on such an individual, or group of conspiring individuals, which is indeed a sure way to put them all out of business.
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Re: The Police who protect you everyday

Isome ·
Blah blah bullshit! Police don't even rank among the top ten in dangerous occupations! That hype is accepted so readily because too many people revere authority figures without question. Think... it's still legal! Top Ten Most Dangerous Professions per 100,000 employed Logging workers** Fatality Rate: 92.4 Reported Fatalities: 85 Most Common Cause: Contacts with objects Aircraft pilots and flight engineers*** Fatality Rate: 92.4 Reported Fatalities: 109 Most Common Cause: Transportation...
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Re: The Police who protect you everyday

Shadow ·
ISOME: I do reallize Libeals have a hard time focusing on the real issues. But my post was clear. Policemen are killed by thugs, that's thugs? More than regular folks are killed by policemen. I did not state, policemen are killed more than regular folks. So now that we have cleard this up? When are you going to make a real change in the community? When are you going to sign up and be a policemen, so you can stoped police brutality and protect the Khemitain people? SOoner or later, Folks are...
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Re: Should we stay or go

Isome ·
We should go!!! Go!!! Go!!! Western countries created the mess that is Iraq, beginning around 1914. The former Ottoman states (Wilayat) of Mosul, Baghdad, and Al Basrah (now called Iraq) are three disparate areas that were placed under the rule of Hashimite King Faisal (imported for his Western friendliness), from the Hijaz region of Arabia after being induced to fight on the side of the British against the Turks for the reward of sovereignty. Besides the geographical differences, the newly...
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Re: What does Freedom of Speech Mean?

Blacksanction ·
You cannot have freedom without responsibility. That is why there are laws to protect against threats to life, false alarms and aircraft jokes. There is a big difference between political correctness and responsible speech. We need to encourage frank discussions w/o the usual liberal/conservative bullshit.
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Re: 2000 FACES

Isome ·
Another face, another life, another death, another casualty of war: Col. Ted Westhusing, a military ethicist who volunteered to go to Iraq, was upset by what he saw. His apparent suicide raises questions. "War is the hardest place to make moral judgments." Col. Ted Westhusing, Journal of Military Ethics WASHINGTON "” One hot, dusty day in June, Col. Ted Westhusing was found dead in a trailer at a military base near the Baghdad airport, a single gunshot wound to the head. ... Westhusing, 44,...
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Re: Which way to go? African universities ask...

Dusty Elbow ·
Unemployment will force more youths to flee Africa 01 Dec 2005 16:37:45 GMT Source: Reuters By Nick Tattersall DAKAR, Dec 1 (Reuters) - Dakar's university may provide an education envied around West Africa but many of its students have only one dream -- to leave Africa, even if it means hiding in boats, truck containers or the undercarriage of an aircraft. Almost three quarters of West Africa's population are under 30 and unemployment rates in some countries are as high as 80 percent. In the...
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Re: Bush Planned to Bomb Media Outlet

Michael ·
The Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com Spinning victory down By Mark Steyn, Published December 5, 2005 Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, came out with a big statement on Iraq last week. Did you hear about it? Probably not. Everyone was still raving about his fellow Democrat, Pennsylvania Rep. Jack Murtha, whose carefully nuanced position on Iraq is: We're all doomed unless we pull out by next Tuesday. (I quote from memory.) Also the U.S. Army is "broken," "worn out" and...
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Re: Why Is So Much of Africa Poor and Underdeveloped?

olten ·
Is this topic still on? How about this: Attachement?
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Re: Free movie that must be seen immediatly: "Loose Change"

Oshun Auset ·
Don't forget my favorite... Marvin P. Bush, George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center... Securacom. This is not an ordinary security force with canvas badges and walkie-talkies; it's an electronic security company, which was coincidentally involved with Dulles Airport until 1998. Handling electronic security at Dulles seems like an excellent way to gain access to Air Traffic Control communication codes with...
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Re: Free movie that must be seen immediatly: "Loose Change"

Fine ·
Yes....! I have many favorites: 1. 03/13/62 - Operation Northwoods. 2. 12/01/84 - Remote-controlled 727 Takes off from Edwards AFB for crash landings by NASA for fuel research. 3. 08/01/97 - FEMA presents "Terrorism/Self-Study" Guide which highlights the WTC. 4. 02/28/98 - Global Hawk (unmanned airplane) completes its first flight over Edwards AFB at 30,000 feet (same altitude as commercial Flights. 5. --/--/99 - NORAD begins conducting exercises of flying into the WTC and the Pentagon. 6.
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Re: American Citizens First Policies

Kweli4Real ·
The reason I posed this question is because living on the border it is a hot issue. I really never thought much about it until I moved here. And then after watching Mexican Nationals crossing the border for the sole purpose of seeking medical treatment that they have no intention of paying for. Or, finding out that many small border cities have three times more private mail boxes (Mail Etc.) than residents because Mexican Nationals are using them as mailing addresses to receive welfare...
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Re: Iraqis today, Romulans tomorrow!

KhemSaqa ·
Like Dr Evil and Frauh on their moon base. Evil too Frauh "fire the laser" Frauh shouts "FIRE the LASER", Joke no more "the laser" dubbed the nautilus is a high energy laser strike weapon capable of aircraft, atmospheric, space missile and now this beam can destroy small artilary shells by in effect heating to a fracturing point at which it is nuetralized. Serious stuff, old tho' not at all made since dubya, reach back to "Ray-Gun" good ole ronnie reagan and his star wars platform a long...
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Re: Oprah Winfrey Show 5 October 2002

ArabianQueen ·
Do you honestly believe a bunch of middle easterners would've had the money/intelligence to perpetrate such an act? I mean, I know "America" is telling us that the "hijackers" were Muslim/Arabs, but you don't believe that there was some inside help? Consider the following: The ruling elites within the U.S. military/government planned, ordered and supported the September 11 terror attacks. Here are ten facts (among many others) which support this conclusion: (1) Some very revealing criminal...
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Re: Bush lies!!

kraaaal ·
Two weeks ago CNN reported that Communist China, a nuclear power is over-hauling and upgrading its military to a modern more efficient military machine. While it is true that the USA has maintained MFN status for Chinese international trade, no one in the White House confuses Communist China with Canada. That is to say, Canada is a friend and the Communist Chinese are foes! The same applies to Ronald Reagan's Russian "Evil Empire." Still, with a significant Communist presence the Russians...
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Re: THIRD SNIPER CAUGHT!

Comrad (Guest) ·
Jazzdog, I started out in Air Force ROTC and was intent on being a pilot. I did not pass the eye exam in AF ROTC, went over the same day to Army ROTC, told them I wanted to be a pilot and they said my eyes did not have to be 20/20. I had 20/30 vision, I was accepted and went to flight school off campus at a local airport. When I was commissioned, I went in as an army aviator with orders to Long Bihn, Viet Nam and to report to flight school after completing basic officers course. I wanted to...
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Re: IRAQ UNDER SADDAM HUSSEIN

kraaaal ·
Yet another report of Iraq firing on American planes in the no-fly zones, of course American war planes had to destroy what the government reports as radar and other enemy sites. Since Dessert Storm, the US government has for years reported being fired upon with not a single loss of coalition aircraft! Are the Iraqis that bad of a shot that in 10 years the US Government claims Iraq has been firing on coalition aircraft without ever downing a single aircraft? More LIES told by white people or...
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Re: A Story About Afghanistan You Won't Find in the American Press

kraaaal ·
More Lies and Deception!!! Middle East THE ROVING EYE From Kabul to Baghdad By Pepe Escobar Using Roland surface-to-air batteries sold by France way back in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq War, as well as Russian SAM-3 missiles, - there have been 406 incidents, including 149 since September 16, the day Baghdad accepted the return of inspectors. According to General Richard Myers, since the voting of UN Resolution 1441, there have been 7 incidents in the north and 17 in the south. But this is...
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Re: Western 'Human Shields' Headed For Iraq

jazzdog ·
There is no denieding the fact America has a strange way of picking its friends, it is always dependent upon the situation and we never ever look 10-15 years down the road. Additionally I not saying that the blight of the kurds is in our best interest now, my point is that while people moan of what we might do to the Iraq people during war there is no outcry from them over the kurds and what Saddam has done to them. Also everybody thinks that the chemical and bioweapons that Iraq got came...
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Re: Western 'Human Shields' Headed For Iraq

jazzdog ·
Well AQ, it just wasn't America, how about the French, Germans, Russians and a host of other counties as well. But you make it sound like only the US supplies arms. Lets see russian tanks and assualt rifles, french aircraft and radar, and south african artillery and ammunition. Yeah and it all came from america, please if you are going to try and make a case, at least have some idea of what you are talking about. Anyone with a general knowledge of arms sales know that just about every...
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Re: POWs: Jesse to the Rescue?

EbonyRose ·
I agree 222, In fact, I thought I had remembered him going to Iraq before and having a sit-down with Sadaam in the past. I did a little checking around and I was able to find this list of the successful negotiations he's been responsible for.... 1984 Jackson negotiated the release of Navel Lt. Robert O. Goodman Jr., after his jet bomber was shot down over an anti-aircraft location in Lebanon. 1984 Four dozen U.S. and Cuban prisoners are released when Jackson and Fidel Castro meet for talks,...
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Re: Tell Us About Your Worst Date!

Kweli4Real ·
I was trying to forget about this experience; but, Okay ... Here we go ... I was in college in Ohio. My first day on campus, I met the most beautiful Black woman that I'd ever seen. I spoke with her and after a couple of hours, I thought, "Wow, she's fine, she's been everywhere and done everything. Maybe I should pursue this farther." Over the next three years, we talked about dating, but either she was involved or I was. So, we became friends. In our fourth year, she did not return to...
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Re: This is the reality of war. We Bomb. They suffer.

EbonyRose ·
In Baghdad, blood and bandages for the innocent By Robert Fisk in the Baghdad suburb of Shu'ale 30 March 2003 The piece of metal is only a foot high, but the numbers on it hold the clue to the latest atrocity in Baghdad. At least 62 civilians had died by yesterday afternoon, and the coding on that hunk of metal contains the identity of the culprit. The Americans and British were doing their best yesterday to suggest that an Iraqi anti-aircraft missile destroyed those dozens of lives, adding...
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Re: I've been reading more of the Euro press lately, interesting article...

Lea ·
If people wish to associate with communists, I see no need to not to lump them with the company they keep, and the fact is, ANSWER and others ARE commies and they are behind much of the protests. I wish I had more time, but on the topic of the Euro press, Junebug, may I direct your attention to this: Slanting of the Euro Press Something wasn't right here, the French state television desk person suggested on-air Sunday morning from Paris Spin Central. Official Iraqi civilian death figures...
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Re: Iraq has no WMD's or Chemical Weapons!

ItAintEazy ·
New tests see no chemical weapons Conclusive testing still to be done on barrels; other finds are also being studied April 7 -- NBC's Dana Lewis reports from the site where U.S. troops found suspicious barrels that had been buried. NBC NEWS AND NEWS SERVICES April 8 "” Conclusive testing is still under way, but the latest tests indicate that barrels found in central Iraq do not contain chemical weapons agents as first suspected, U.S. military sources said on Tuesday. Other suspicious finds...
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Re: U.S. Forces Return Fire at Iraq Protest

Melesi ·
Lipati, That was not the point. You spoke of their hatred. It is misplaced. If you're going to talk about agents of a state, those who protested were not the agents of a state, either, so your objection is irrelevant. That the hijackers were not agents of a state is not meaningful. That Arab sensibility tends to politically oppose all those not-Muslim is meaningful. You ended with that question, "And some wonder why they hate you. Isn't it obvious?" No, it isn't. Hate is not logical. It...
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Re: U.S. Forces Return Fire at Iraq Protest

Khalilallah ·
(That was not the point. You spoke of their hatred. It is misplaced.) If you're going to talk about agents of a state, those who protested were not the agents of a state, either, so your objection is irrelevant. So it seems that these protestors did not have the right to protest as any democracy would allow and that all should be grouped togther due to the criminal actions of another. America should not be there, we should not of placed ourselves in that position of vulnerability. Such...
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Re: Hillary Clinton

MBM ·
She's Baaaack! The Hillary Factor Cue the music from "Jaws." Or "Fatal Attraction." You get the idea. Just when you thought the Democratic Party was flailing around in its attempt to gain any political traction, a familiar and fascinating figure is haunting the sidelines. In a sign of how pitiful the Democratic talent pool seems these days, that figure is one Hillary Rodham Clinton. No, she's not running for president in 2004 (although I hereby predict a write-in boomlet among Democratic...
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Re: Toussaint, please explain your philosophy on the role of government!

Kevin41 ·
toussaint, you and delta must be the same person....your brand of contrarian ignorance is amazing..... ____________________________________________________________________________ you posted: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Kevin41: To support your point....the GOV"T just found out that some airlines were not using certified mechanics and that some of the maintenance logs were forged listing procedures that were not...
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Re: Toussaint, please explain your philosophy on the role of government!

Kevin41 ·
go learn something about airport security toussaint....go to school for it or get involved in the industry....go and check out how the major airports are dealing with airport entry and the technicalities associated with AOA (Airport Operations Area) things aren't as cut and dry as the vague rhetoric you offer for most topics....as great as you may think your intellect is.....you are not in the position to refute people on issues they have gone to school for for decades at a time and been...
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Re: DAMN! Woman Carves Her Name in Man's Arm

Vox ·
That would be a NO. I think some people have a tendency not to view a woman's insanity as threatening or dangerous the same way a man's insanity would be. Well, I'm not one of those people. That kind of element of instability can truly ruin your life if you bring it in. I've seen it happen, and I don't think anything is worth it. Unless it's in another country... where the US makes it difficult if not impossible to get a travel visa... with a woman who is a national thereof... and your...
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Re: DAMN! Woman Carves Her Name in Man's Arm

shulamite ·
Agreed. I was just curious if men had a sliding scale of what they'd compromise to be with a pretty (or, in this case, talented) woman. One poster commented in another thread that the prettier the woman was, the less intelligent she had to be for him. It just took me by surprise, because I cannot think of any personality characteristics in a man of importance to me that, if lacking, would be mitigated by his looks or "talent". LOL. This is funny, but I get your point! shulamite
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Re: Sikhs and Greeks: The all too predicted racist backlash begins...

Vox ·
I got some ugly looks myself after 9/11, especially one time from the Port Authority Police when I was in an airport wearing a knit cap. As soon as I figured out why they were ice grilling me, I took that damn thing right off my head. It's a good thing I wasn't impatient about anything and sighed real hard. They'd've thought I was saying something in Arabic. Who knows where I'd be locked up right now.
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Re: The object of my desire and (lust) has a new album out!!!

ocatchings ·
I can't help it. I remember the 1st time I heard/saw "Smooth Operator". It was in Grafenwohr, Germany and we were taking a break and someone played the video and I was smitten as it was love/lust at 1st sight. (don't tell anyone, but the 1st time I saw the video, at the end when she shed that tear, I was shedding one as well, that's when I knew we were meant for each other) Shhhhh that's our secret. We left Graf and went back to Frankfurt and it was announced she was coming in concert. I...
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Re: Thomas Friedman - NY Times: Insight Into The Middle East and Beyond

MBM ·
A Failure to Imagine By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN If you ask me, the press has this whole story about whether President Bush had a warning of a possible attack before 9/11, and didn't share it, upside down. The failure to prevent Sept. 11 was not a failure of intelligence or coordination. It was a failure of imagination. Even if all the raw intelligence signals had been shared among the F.B.I., the C.I.A. and the White House, I'm convinced that there was no one there who would have put them all...
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Re: Racial Profiling at the Airport

Lea ·
From what I read elsewhere, the blame for the airport situation is placed on us. It would be nice if they would look at the bigoted cops, though, but did you really think that would happen? I think if the government were serious about the airport, they wouldn't get people with such low I.Q.'s to screen the baggage. I don't know, I think a terrorist would have to be pretty dedicated to get his mouth wired shut just so he can slip some pliers onboard to kill people. And wouldn't his dentist...
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Re: Silly Stuff

Nkechi ·
This was just too funny, reminded me of the common smart-azzedness we have at work. Qantas Airlines: After every flight, pilots complete a gripe sheet which conveys to the mechanics problems encountered with the aircraft during the flight that need repair or correction. The pilot completes and then the mechanics read and correct the problem. They then respond in writing on the lower half of the form what remedial action was taken and the pilot reviews the gripe sheets before the next flight.
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Re: Ever Met Someone Famous?

Yssys (Guest) ·
These are the people that I've met since high school. Desmond Tutu, Stokely Caramichael(Kwame Toure), Penny Hardaway, Chris Rock, Dick Gregory, Ike Turner (I saw these two at Heathrow Airport), Elton John (He is much fatter in person). Those are all that I can remember off the top of my head. I actually talked to Kwame Toure and Desmond Tutu. They are both AWESOME men! Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should...
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