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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
courtesy of democratic underground Condoleezza Rice George W. Bush gave Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a very important job last week. According to the Financial Times: President George W. Bush on Wednesday announced that the State Department would lead all US post-conflict reconstruction, a move that supersedes the controversial decision to give that task to the Pentagon in Iraq following the 2003 invasion. ... A former senior official involved in what he called the "chaos" of post-war...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
.....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... .....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc., ...... ......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Blacksanction ·
It is can be either- whatever direction they are given re strategic policy of the government of the day. The part that everyone likes to miss is that the interception of telcom in and out of the US has been going on for decades. Think about it... the US does this with its allies so I listen to your people and I listen to yours and then we trade the information. Agents of the state (whether Fed, State or local police) depending on the circumstances do engage from time to time in unlawful acts...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
CF - I'm being real patient and kind here. Now listen (read) carefully. There is a big difference between the state killing black children and women exercising their Constitutionally protected right to choice. I hope that even you can understand that.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
And therein lies the crux of your problem. You have the inability to understand that life is not black and white, but a pallette of hues. In your world, either something is fed you by a white conservative god, or it is wrong. How curious that your concern for "black babies" evaporates at birth. Where is your care for them as you withold healthcare, education, due process under the law, equality of opportunity, etc., etc., etc.?
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

HonestBrother ·
YOU ARE A FRAUD
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Empty Purnata ·
[Sarcasm] Don't you know, MBM? Pregnancy is God's punishment against women for being whores and sluts! We shouldn't allow for women to have choices over their bodies, God wants men to use the righteous arm of law to decide things for wimmin. They don't need no help once the babies are born. Being single mothers in poverty is God's punishment on them for being loose. [/End Sarcasm]
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
"I wonder how many Black people really give a schit about how they are LOOKED at ..." by Kevin41 "I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious .... when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters ....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here........." by Kevin41 ************************** ".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... ..... the...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

sunnubian ·
I get so sick and tired of hearing this bs from this republican lawn jockey. He acts as if HIS father is the only Black person or Black man who did ALL these things in a racist society. Millions of Black people in America did the same things he says his father did, accomplished the same things, his father did, served in WWI/WWII/Vietnam/Etc., and did so in the mist of a racist nation with the only difference being other Black people go to work every day, graduate from school (or get a...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: Are You Afraid To Die?

Empty Purnata ·
Very reasonable expression! Actually about the "saftey net" thing, one of my cousins is also an atheist, but he believes in reincarnation or subconsciousness (he believes that people either either reincarnate or that after death, people remain in a dream-like subconscious state). It's kind of unusual for an atheist to believe in afterlife, but oh well. *shrugs*
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Black Viking ·
This is really where the rubber meets the road. Not to disrupt the Larry Elder feeding-fest, but I thought he was making some good points right up until he gives the "suggestion" to invest in yourself. Obviously, if your not trying to better yourself than none of this matters. It never hits home. How can you be held down by racism if your not trying to go anywhere? I think the reason that this idiot is a conservative is because he has bought the party line of the...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....now speaking of defending the status quo, more likely this fits our disgraceful elected representatives and/or an inept Black middleclass more so than any Black conservative.... " House Negroes can't back-up a prayer of a chance in any benefit as to AA benefitting a Michael Lofton because I only give credit where it is due ....." ....now AA has done about as much or less for me..... ...as a no good Reverend Henry Lyons , and snake oil saleman Reverend Jesse Jackson , Brentwood Burke,...
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Re: 'No Child Left Behind' - A Thought

MBM ·
First who is Kendred Meeks. Funny that there are NO citations for that person in all of Google. Second, most schools are built with a combination of local, state, and federal funding hence your assumption that building schools somehow reduces per student funding does not necessarily apply. Third, even if per student funding decreased, lowering the teacher/student ratio in some instances might overcome the reduced funding. This is particularly the case when it is part of a planned, strategic...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely Empty Purnata, ricardomath, and Kevin41 are full of it..... ..now this is punishment... punishment for wrong and foolish actions truly deserved. ..now, I choose not to go this direction, and slim chance exists, where I will be punished for anything that I truly did....... .....There is nothing that a Kevin41 can do that will ruin me, punish me, ruin my good reputation, etc., etc. ..haven't sustained any losses, be it financial, or otherwise, thus what you have classed as...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely, it is the Black community that is nutty, backwards, sleazy, cowardly, disloyal, and/or treasonous towards itself...... ...and since I believe in the laws of this land, I don't make any attempt to justify illegal activity. ...instead it is better served to seek redress, as opposed to asking the perpetrators why they did it. ......more important than the why, is the proving that they did. Last time I checked, more so that not, those behind bars are there, because it was proven...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Nah Isome...those days of giving little mikey attention have fizzled down to nothing......what the hell...i made a decent effort up front to communicate so to hell with it......i read some of the old posts Ricardo chronicled and I was really too damn diplomatic in the first place...just takes a minute to figure it out when you trying to give a fool the benefit of the doubt. Remember when I said so in the thread about New Years resolutions? Well as you can see today is the 7th.....once I get...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Notice how they get longer as a way to be more distracting...man behavioral science is something else........ **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to become angry because of it. you understand what they are striving for as a goal, eliminate their possibility of accomplishing it...and go on about your merry day." by Kevin41 ************************************ I pay Kevin41,...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
I am a Christian, I am heterosexual, I think gays should be allowed to marry, I think women have the right of choice and affirmative action is desparately needed because children are still being left behind. Law in the USA is not about morality it is about power and money. It was law that enslaved my ancestors using the Christian Bible, it was law that separated the races under Jim Crow using the Christian Bible , it was law that cause the police to sick dogs on citizens because they were...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Empty Purnata ·
Alright, here's the reality of the land: America was founded on Englightenment Principles (the ideas in our Constitution are borrowed from the French Constitution and inspired by Englightenment Age philosophy on liberty, freedom and justice). There is a radical Seperation of Church and State. Church cannot regulate religious beliefs as laws, and the State cannot regulate religious beliefs. This is mutally beneficial, it provides a safe, bias-free (in theory) system that does not make...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns. You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America rather than spending it on your fellow Americans. There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Nmaginate ·
What's so hard about you keeping your comments within THE CONTEXT? Why are you running across the globe looking, praying for something, someone to save your SORRY ASS?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Kevin: Let me give you some CONTEXT to your statements above. Inevitably there will be some over the top incident that a Black person or group of Blacks commit. Rather than condemn THIS PARTICULAR EVENT and clearly articulate how THIS EVENT HAS VIOLATED EVERYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE....... You (and my enemy Isome) will IMMEDIATELY do a web search and find and occassion in which WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT THE OUTRAGE HAS NOT FOLLOWED. So Kevin - does this benefit the Black victim...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the New and Old Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns slavery. If anything,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
How about the law which gives Congress the right to authorize the President to declare war?
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
EP, Yes, John Locke and the idea of universal rights is very European, though they did not spring full-grown from the head of the French Revolution, especially that part of it that so quickly degenerated into the Reign of Terror and was well criticized by such as Edmund Burke, a supporter of much of the American philosophy. But this couldn't have arisen without the ground of the Christian faith. It's no wonder that the Magna Carta was forced on King John in England. It was a first step...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the Old and New Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids - or even condemns - the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Johnny Destiny ·
Quote: Why would a soul choose to leave Heaven and come to Earth? Not only is Earth, no doubt, a rather sordid place compared to Paradise, they can also screw up and get sent to hell for eternity. ________________________________________________ First MBM, the soul cannot choose to do anything whether it want to or no. This is so because the human soul is the infinite State, and the infinite State is our entire universe. Since this is now admitted as true by the learned, how can a soul...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
Is anyone following the confirmation hearings? I was reading the GOP list of witnesses for Alito when I came upon this: I find it interesting that Kirsanow is a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights AND a partner in a law firm whose labor/employment law section [where he practiced] is widely known for its union-busting and aggressive, employee-hostile tactics.Kirsanow will be in the 5th panel and is a "discrimination is a thing of the past" civil rights
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

MBM ·
You are showing either you naivete or bias CF. White males hire white males. Period. In fact, there would be no affirmative action in employment if white males could be trusted not to break the law and hire without regard to race and gender. Because they are unable to do so, there must be a law in place to "force" them to do what is right as opposed to what they want to do - which is (like Bush) hire their boys.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Black Men and the "Criminality Gene"

Isome ·
THIS is why people were up-in-arms about a DNA database complied by law enforcement. Besides the fact that evidence is routinely manipulated, the temptation to engage in more junk science, like phrenology, is too tempting for some of our melanin-deprived fellow citizens. The irony is that something like this will have avid supporters among the judiciary and law enforcement personnel, but those same proponents will fight tooth and nail when a convict WANTS his DNA tested to prove his...
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kweli4Real ·
My sister is a 20 elementary/primary school teacher. She has 2 Master's degrees and is in a PHD program. She tells me that while she supports accountability in general and testing in specific, her two complaints about NCLB testing is that 1) schools are teaching to the test, when they are not testing FROM the actual test. This is "teaching" child what to think not how to think. 2) schools' entire curricula and resources are test directed, very little resources are being spent on music, Phys...
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Re: 2005 Lynching

Kweli4Real ·
I saw this article at another site. They got to talking about lynching, defining it and talking about how politicians have misappropriated it [Goolge: Clarence Thomas+High Tech Lynching]. Then they got to questioning how the SC law defines lynching as "any attack on a person by a group that causes injury" [paraphrasing]. They all gave reasons for the disconnect between the SC law and lynching's historic racial context; some even priased the law's "color-blindness." I would argue that the...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
In following the confirmation hearings, I found one [actually several] of Alito's comments, "Curious." He was asked about something that he wrote arguing that the constitution is silent on the "right to privacy." [And, it is] The question [and answer] was framed in terms of the "right to privacy" announced in the Rowe decision. Alito was asked, with respect to his earlier comments, how he would approach the "right to privacy" question, if raised. Alito's response was that he would " approach...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Yes, of course: criticize without dealing with the evidence, state an opinion as if it were obvious truth, and never, never answer a factual argument.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
The point is that I could sit here and argue with you forever. But your mind is made up and no amount of logic and evidence is going to change your mind. I don't enjoy arguing just for the hell of it. My time is rather limited. So why bother? I'm not sure that anything good comes of it. I'm not sure if anyone on the site gets much from looking at the two of us go back and forth hogging a thread. Why bother? And I did present evidence for my statement. Philemon. And you didn't dispute what I...
 
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