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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious....when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here......... My dad's barbershop ...byLarry Elder and personal responsibility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: December 29, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: The following column...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Kevin41 ·
**MBM....I guess as an educator I just GIVE black people grades....and the black causes I give money to is just for them to live off of and not invest in their education and futures. I guess my support of affirmative action was not for black people to go to colleges and also be fairly included in jobs that show our historical representation as low...I guess I want jobs and education for black people to not utilize them and sit on their lazy welfare collecting azzes and watch TV....just like...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Empty Purnata ·
Damn straight. Clarence Thomas and Ward Connerly, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BENEFICIARIES, BOTH OF THEM, seeks to dismantle Affirmative Action for other Blacks: http://www.civilrights.org/issues/affirmative/details.cfm?id=38727 http://www.greaterdiversity.com/employers/emp_articles03/connerly_plans.html F*ck them to death.
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Kevin41 ·
EP, This nigga had a chance to declare himself as NOT a minority business but it would have caused him to lose some affirmative action set-aside contracts...you know which route this sorry coon sonofabitch took huh?
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Re: How The Bush Administration Hurts The Black Community

Kevin41 ·
Man shut up with that self-importantce bullschit this morning Lofton..no one gives a fuck about what you think or your weird azz writing style you picked up from the ward....you're the joke Lofton...you grew up to be someone so alienated from your own that you seek out white racists for affiliation...now talking about jokes....do you really think those hateful azz inbreds at stormfront take you seriously? hell no...you're like ward coonerly and the rest....racists find you useful to help...
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Re: King Kong, The Movie

4YAINFO ·
The black character called "Hayes" was thrown in to the movie to "balance" the scences of so-called "the blood-thirsty savages".
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
LOL! Apparently for Condoleeza Rice, J.C. Watts, Armstrong Williams, Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, "Rev." Jesse Lee Peterson, Juan Williams and Clarence Thomas; Affirmative Action was just fine WHEN THEY BENEFITTED FROM IT. Now that they have "made it" up the ladder, they want to kick it down so other Blacks can't use it. They want to be the only House Negroids in Massa's house. They can't have other Negroids stealing their spotlight! Got-damn Kneegrows. They can't stand Affirmative Action...
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
I am a Christian, I am heterosexual, I think gays should be allowed to marry, I think women have the right of choice and affirmative action is desparately needed because children are still being left behind. Law in the USA is not about morality it is about power and money. It was law that enslaved my ancestors using the Christian Bible, it was law that separated the races under Jim Crow using the Christian Bible , it was law that cause the police to sick dogs on citizens because they were...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
no, people don't 'wake up' one morning and pursue that 'wrong person', but those people ACTIONS show that they did. Actions are all we can judge here...and unfortunately for many young black women, it's the action of dating/mating a thug. Maybe those women are too young to understand that long term effects of that choice or maybe they were just trying to be a part of the 'in' crowd...whatever. The result is plain as day when numerous black women are not pursuing relationships that are sane...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Remember The Past So As Never To Repeat It!

Dusty Elbow ·
It took quite an abyssmal imagination to create these depictions followed by relentless brutality of injustices. We dont see them but they are circulating in the world of someone's imagination. Just waiting for the time and place to erupt. Your thoughts become action. - 'wise' slave ancestor
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Re: The Wall Street Project: The Continuing Conversation for Parity

MBM ·
You are showing either you naivete or bias CF. White males hire white males. Period. In fact, there would be no affirmative action in employment if white males could be trusted not to break the law and hire without regard to race and gender. Because they are unable to do so, there must be a law in place to "force" them to do what is right as opposed to what they want to do - which is (like Bush) hire their boys.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Your illness could be avoided if you wished. Yo uapparently do not do so. Note well what Paul said, that he could order Philemon to release Onesimus if he wanted to. He would rather have it come from Philemon's own heart and love for Onesimus. He's being quite pastoral here as well as apostolic. The command still hovers in the background, the unchanging scene against which this action is played. Yes, if you'd only read closely.
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Empty Purnata ·
LOL, Isome, you know this has been going on ever since slavery. Remember the old House Kneegrow who would put the fire out if the Massa's house caught on fire? "We sick, bohs!" Thomas Sowell is nothing more than a William F. Buckley-type dressed up in a Black man's body. He's nothing more than a tool for White Conservative Status-Quo defenders to go: "Hey look! This Nigra agrees with us! He sees the light in our reasoning. Why can't the rest of you Nigras be the same way? Why can't you...
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Re: No one Else Wants to be a Victim

Empty Purnata ·
And Bush's PUNK-ASS had his head in the ground when he first got in the White House. Bush IGNORED several warnings of terrorist action inside the US, and he cut funding for defense against Terrorism. Do you know what Clinton was working on while the RETHUGLICANS were trying to crucify him over getting a blowjob? COUNTER-TERRORISM: http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/adm-anti-terror-otl.html http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/1515.html Condoleeza Rice ignored a document called,...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Empty Purnata ·
I've run into types like that too back in high school and now in college. I've had White kids (and adults) go on about how Affirmative Action and welfare make Minorities "lazy", and cite Black Conservatives. Often times, I have no problem debunking them and using Black Progressives/Liberals to refute the Black Conservative rhetoric. Ever notice that when these Status Quo-defenders are refuted, they get nasty? They start delving into racism, bigotry, sexism, or just start name-calling. I...
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

Rowe ·
It sadens me that we don't see and/or appreciate this kind of beauty more often. Who determines what is "ugly?" Where have all the Black models gone? - a supermodel analyzes racist factors in several industries that impact jobs in the media and fashion modeling industry by Veronica Webb In the fall of 1994, I shared the cover of YSB with Black male model Clayton Hunter and with Roshumba, who had been featured in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue three years in a row. I, like more than a...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
You don't believe in democracy, PUNK!! There is no way you can talk about the Tyranny of the Majority and be so selective and DEFERENTIAL in your application of the principle... if you believed in democracy. And you definitely don't respect any type of process or any real MEASURING OF EFFECTIVENESS, etc., etc. You just want what you call "Affirmative Action", a set-aside, for your views that eliminate you from having to demonstrate how your ideas are logical, accurate, responsible,...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Little Fella: I have "power" and influence over myself and my family. I have no job as a "Civil Rights Actor-vist", standing in front of a crowd, telling Black folks how damaged we are as a people. You can judge me on that which I have influence over in my domain. I just signed up for Junior Acheivement. I will have the opportunity to get in front of young people and "indoctrinate them" toward my way of thinking. IF my bit of influence upon this kids, mixed in with the greater influence of...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
More like have enough self-respect and self-esteem as to not discredit his/their own intelligence by thinking dumb shit like that will fly. At least make a more compelling case, if there is one... (Oops! There isn't one). It's really sad and I sorta feel sorry for people who have problems saying things beyond the little juvenile simplistic, half-a-first-thought ridiculous ideas they think would or should resonate. Here's a short list of this Child's Themes (with him thinking he's talking to...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Noah The African ·
I think that actions are motivated by emotions, when not motivated directly by instinct without thought. Some emotions thus produce an instinctive reaction, such as fear producing the action resultant of fight or flight. Unity is an action and hence requires a prerequisite emotion to motivate towards the instinctive reaction to the emotion. There is nothing that creates unity more than a shared enemy. This is why this nation always embarks upon a campaign of demonizing an entity in order to...
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Afrimerican ·
In all the post topics, the persons calling themself nmaginate, and the Chester person do a good cop/bad cop routine, and with the present political climate, it makes me wonder if they and this site are a C.I.A. front to stir the pot of confusion and idiocy. I know AfricanAmerican.com is a C.I.A. sponsored site, and I know from my prior experiences with persons mentioned, they serve to do no more than fuel an already blazing inferno of discord and dissension, denying the linear chronology of...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
No attacks... Just a whole bunch of laughin'!!!! Maybe you ought to take some time and research this Secret Agent Man's postings on that very type of subject - approach. If you know me the idea of SOVEREIGNTY is crucial to my conception of Reparations. Black people were effectively dispossessed of their(our) land too... Native Americans via Reservations, etc. have [at least] a modicum of sovereignty ... [African Americans] haven't even been treated with [that] much respect or in the same...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Yemaya ·
Great post Noah! We don't allow ourselves to see other black people as being "black like us" and vice versa. Often times the majority of our people are suffering from the sames types of issues and don't even know it because there is a certain amount of disconnect. Some of the disconnect is external and some is internal. If we overcome the internal disconnect, we can definitely overcome the external disconnects.
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Re: Executives' Pensions Are the Deal of a Lifetime

Kweli4Real ·
In another thread, CF cited to spouse abuse in Africa and eluded to oppression in some Arab states. He then asked for the Capitalistic equivalent. Well, CF, here ya go:
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Re: What is a Sellout?

HonestBrother ·
I think this is a good question. I must say that I find it to be hopelessly vague term. I think the implicit meaning is that, within the context, A sellout is a black person who exhibits some behaviour/action/belief that is perceived to be either racially inauthentic or contrary to that person's own racial best interest. The difficulty, of course, is pinning down what it means to be racially authentic or in one's racial best interest. It seems that when people do this they almost always...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

HonestBrother ·
HOWEVER, there is one sense of the term which I believe is meaningful: The sellout is a racial appeaser. I.e., the sellout is a person who for whatever reason makes it their business to appease/please whites whatever the costs to the group or even to themselves. The reason could be perceived self-interest (profit for example) or it could be due to a racial inferiority complex. Again, it's hard to make this definition stick because you can't get inside someone's head to see what motivates...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

Frenchy ·
I'm not sure that I agree with this "expense of the group" idea. I think there are plenty of people who make sell-out choices in their personal lives that have very little meaningful effect on other Black people (or other women or whatever the group is that you belong to). You can certainly sell your own self out. But if you go with the idea that a sellout is someone who looks out for self over the good of the group, then it is necessary to determine what one's obligation is to the group...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

ricardomath ·
Every once in a while I hear the statement that some person or action being criticised is "not as bad as the Nazis", or its more recient variant "not as bad a Saddam", as if it is some sort of compliment. I'm not sure that I would feel it a compliment to be compared with either one, even if I "won" the comparrison. If the best defense that can be given somebody is that she is "not as bad as Rumsfeld and Cheney", then that in itself is telling...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Major Barber ·
Perhaps we need to have Affirmative Action in the NBA. I want to be the old short Black guy on the team, so I can make $400,000 a year for sitting on the bench. For the last 50 years, we have known the standard: 4.0 and 1600! What has changed since the mid 50's? I was a former product of Affirmative Action and it destroys your soul. As a young man who scored on over 1200 on my SATs, I received scholarships without trying. I pissed the opportunity away. Later in life having to work hard to...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Huey ·
I hate to disagree with you, but AA (Affirmative Action) had nothing to do with your soul or losing your scholarships. AA only guarantees that you have a CHANCE to compete with whites and everyone else, rather than being overlooked by the mainstream (i.e. white)or just be refused because of your skin color...with impunity. It doesn't guarantee you a job, it does guarantee that if you make it through the interview and meet the requirements for that job or to attend college, the door will be...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Nmaginate ·
Major ... What/Where is the NBA's equivalent to an SAT? But, yeah... A guy with no B-Ball skills should get paid on GP just like an electrician or plumber should. Or better yet, a guy with no musical talent receiving an American Music Award for clangin' on a keyboard like a three year old. Somehow, somewhere this NBA stuff has to make some kind of sense. As for your personal story... KEY PHRASE: "Later in life..."And that's happened everywhere at all times, etc., etc. Hell, no doubt, people...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Kweli4Real ·
You're joking, Right? As Huey stated, AA had nothing to do with your "losing your soul" or "pissed [your] opportunit[ies] away." First, I distinctly recall that you to be a non-Black troll so you've begun with a lie. But even if you were Black, your so-called "loss of soul" is better described as insecurity and/or self-hate. Your pissing away of opportunities can be ascribed to youth, ignorance or stupidity, but not the OPPORTUNITY provided by AA.
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

MBM ·
I've been searching for someone who feels this way. Could you please elucidate us on how this occurred? How did AA "destroy your soul"?
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Kweli4Real ·
Tortured Thinking: Another example of tortured Thinking:
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Major Barber ·
Common! When the facts of the matter are not in contention, denigrate the man. MAJOR ... Bullshit? Look, the NBA is based on the best players. There are only 360 positions in the NBA. And not one of them is based on affirmative action or quota system. Each one is based on being the best. Why should our education systems not be the same? Granted being acccepted to Michigan or UCLA is not the same as being a first round draft pick, but both should be based on the same, the best.
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

MBM ·
Because the objectives of a university have nothing in common with that of an NBA team.
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Kweli4Real ·
Fact is, the NBA is not based on the best players; it is based on the best players that can/have shown that they can play within a system. There are plenty of "Street-Ballers" [and I'm not talking about "And-1" players] with more game than many in the NBA. Further, how many players, with major game, have been suspended/banned or Blackballed [pardon the pun] from the NBA, despite their abilities? This goes to show that, like in education, there are other factors effecting entrance into both...
 
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