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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

NSpirit ·
Also Shango is right to say it is difficult to appreciate black male privilege in the context of the larger society ... Perhaps it is easier to see how it functions within black institutional life? Because I (personally) find myself rather estranged from the major black institutions (like the church) the concept is all the more difficult for me to grasp too ... But negrospiritual's post helped a bit.
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Re: Exploding the Charter School Myth

Sweetwuzzy ·
KNEEGROW YOU GOT IT BAD!!!! So let me get this straight. Despite TODAY where it is NOT THE CASE taht 100% of the students in school systems receive quality education.......you fear a change that might not benefit 100% of the students. Did I capture your views correctly? And CHARTER SCHOOLS? Hold on a minute dude. If educational funding for public schools are a function of the HEAD COUNT, an over crowded public school that sees a drop in enrollment as kids go to a newly built public school...
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Re: Non-Denominational Churches: Do They Really Meet The Needs of A Religiously-Diverse America?

Rowe ·
Rowe, what you're looking for is Unitarian Universalism. It is just such a "religion" ... where you might hear sermons coming from the perspective of Judaism one Sunday ... and from Hinduism the next Sunday. And religious education for the youth is similarly inclusive. Young people are taught about all the religious traditions and allowed to make up their own minds. I'm technically a member of the UUA (Unitarian Universalist Association). And I attend services about once a month. I LOVE the...
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Re: Non-Denominational Churches: Do They Really Meet The Needs of A Religiously-Diverse America?

Rowe ·
Rowe, I think you are thinking about Unitarian Churches as opposed to Non-denominational churches. Unitarian churches believe in a spirituality not restrained by a specific faith such as 'being born again' as such they are inclusive and non-dogmatic. Non-denominational churches are Christian in nature, believe in salvation through the belief in Christ, and mostly believe in speaking in tongues and the gift of the holy spirit although not all hold to that. They simply don't follow a specific...
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Re: Sooo, things are a changin', Huh?

Kweli4Real ·
Yep Kweli, I am tired of you black people complaining all the time....like this article where this "good white man" was set free to hopefully live his life for a crime that was committed ages ago.....like slavery, you blacks should learn to leave the past in the past (end sarcasm): Miss. town grapples with killer's release amid appeal By Bill Nichols, USA TODAY The small Mississippi town of Philadelphia once more finds itself battling the ghosts of its past, two months after a guilty verdict...
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Re: Sooo, things are a changin', Huh?

Kweli4Real ·
For a moment, I thought it was a restaurant owned by Mike Tyson ! But nevertheless... double to Tyson Foods, Inc. - - - - - Kevin41, while he certainly deserves jail-time it's interesting how karma works: "the 80-year-old Baptist minister and former Ku Klux Klan leader presented neither threat because he uses a wheelchair after a March logging accident that broke both his legs. "
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Re: The Lower Economic Peoiple did not hold up their end of the deal..

Faheem ·
Nmaginate: What White folks attempt to drill into their own heads and ours is NOT OF OUR CAPACITY TO CONTROL. Certainly watching television where many of these images are to be had is not helping yet Black kids consume more TV than most others in this country. I have said all along that the "Hand that rocks the cradle" provides the greatest impression on that young person's mind and how he later interprets the world. Your notions above are true only if you assume that we as Black people...
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Re: More Likely Black People Should be Angry With Our Own Leadership!

Michael ·
...say what you will, but the fraudulent actions of the Democratic Party killed off any chance of the Democrats winning the election. ....Now back to the topic, the so-called Black elected leadership, and other influential Black people knew what was about to take place, and these individuals in positions of influence all refused or neglected to give advance warning to the Black indigent left behind. ************************** New Orleans had a plan to warn the poor, but it sat on a shelf in...
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Re: $25,000 Stolen from Red Cross

Fine ·
Red Cross, Black Pastors at Odds Ministers in Atlanta say the aid organization has spurned their offers of help. About 50,000 Katrina evacuees have taken shelter in the city. By Jenny Jarvie Times Staff Writer October 11, 2005 ATLANTA "” When the Rev. Timothy McDonald arrived at a Red Cross shelter to serve baked chicken, collard greens and macaroni and cheese to hurricane evacuees, a Red Cross volunteer told him they could not accept his food. McDonald, shocked and disappointed, approached...
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Re: $25,000 Stolen from Red Cross

Fine ·
""We're with the Southern Baptists," the man said, explaining that the Southern Baptist Convention has a partnership with the American Red Cross. McDonald's First Iconium Baptist Church, a modest African American church in east Atlanta, does not." ____________________________________ I didn't know that you had to have a 'partnership' with the American Red Cross in order to donate to it. If that is the case, I am sure that all the American Red Cross 'partners' recieve a 'small stiphend' for...
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Re: Houston Pastors Say Black Churches Being Snubbed by Red Cross, FEMA

Fine ·
What did I tell you: Posted October 13, 2005 01:14 PM ""We're with the Southern Baptists," the man said, explaining that the Southern Baptist Convention has a partnership with the American Red Cross. McDonald's First Iconium Baptist Church, a modest African American church in east Atlanta, does not." ____________________________________ I didn't know that you had to have a 'partnership' with the American Red Cross in order to donate to it. If that is the case, I am sure that all the American...
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Re: The Worst Case Republican Scenario

Cobb ·
If a better life for an African-American individual from the ghetto requires them to leave the ghetto then it is the structure of American upperward mobility, in and of itself, that undermines the ghetto. You say leave without a thought as to who and what is left behind... And Black people, Republican, Episcopalian, Baptist, etc. lament the "loss of community". Cosby talking about "In the old days." So instead of forcing the issue we're suppose to be resigned to the [false] hope of Black...
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Re: Contractors Get Affirmative Action Exemption

Fine ·
LOOKING BACK ON INTEGRATION In Houston, money spoke louder than Parks By EDWARD HEGSTROM Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle ROSA PARKS 1913-2005 Rosa Parks' refusal to give up her seat on a Montgomery, Ala., bus may have sparked the tempestuous civil rights movement across the South in 1955, but integration came more quietly to Houston a few years later, local leaders recall. As with so much in this enterprise-driven city, the rather sudden dismantling of Jim Crow segregation in Houston in...
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Re: Time For Action?!?!?!?

NFarious ·
Welcome NFarious, You don't have to twist my arm to make me a believer. Sleaze, criminal activity, treason, etc., is very much alive in the Black community. Eventually though, this disgraceful activity catches up with the perpetrators. It is all the more pleasing in the event an individual or group of individuals have the backbone, and factual evidence to blow the whistle on such an individual, or group of conspiring individuals, which is indeed a sure way to put them all out of business.
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Re: Home Schools Are Becoming More Popular Among Blacks

MBM ·
I don't see what's so much more GD "moral" about these private Christian schools than public schools. I attended private Baptist schools until I was in the 5th grade, and those were NOT nice places. The teachers forced us to memorize Bible verses and punished us if we didn't remember them, we were taught that everything was "sinful" and that God would not like us if we commited those "sins", the teachers could be mean and abusive (and some were racists), I got punished for arguing with White...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Fine ·
Excerpts From The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold by Acharya S From the very beginning of our quest to unravel the Christ conspiracy, we encounter suspicious territory, as we look back in time and discover that the real foundation of Christianity appears nothing like the image provided by the clergy and mainstream authorities. Indeed, far more rosy and cheerful than the reality is the picture painted by the vested interests as to the origins of the Christian religion: To wit,...
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Re: Do you cuss?

FireFly ·
1. In my mind - frequently. 2. Verbally in private - very rarely. 3. In public (to my recollection) - never. It goes with the way I was raised (I have never heard my father use profanity, and my mother, only one word on rare occasions that - a euphemism for excrement. It also would not go well with being an ordained Baptist minister, even though I am not presently involved in ministry, but rather the academy.
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Re: Do you cuss?

FireFly ·
Do you get onto yourself for cursing mentally? I stopped cursing soon after I got saved, and rarely curse aloud but mentally?! Sometimes I surprise myself after a tirade and then I end up feeling guilty because God knows my heart regardless of what comes out of my mouth. As far as nigga? I'll use it in very specific situations with very specific people (it's that double life thing kicking in). And no, I don't feel guilty after saying it because I just honestly don't have a problem with the word.
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Re: Commentary: Gay is not the new black

EbonyRose ·
But that is not what is going on in the SCLC situation as I explained before. The SCLC LA chapter took a stance (unanimous), and the president of the chapter was called on the carpet by the national. This is not a white LGBT outsider, this is a straight, black Baptist preacher. Moreover, there are numerous AA LGBT advocates out there who have taken Obama to task. It is not just white folks. Friends of mine like Rev. Irene Monroe has had several articles in the Black Commentator as well as...
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Re: Commentary: Gay is not the new black

EbonyRose ·
kresge, I understand your argument and agree with it - provided that Mr. Lee wasn't under a contractual agreement that whatever he said or his chapter did publically spoke for the national SCLC. What I take issue with is the author of this editorial saying "the failure of the SCLC as a national organization to defend the dignity and equality of LGBT families disqualifies it as a civil rights organization". I argue that it doesn't, as the SCLC - gay founding member notwithstanding - was NOT...
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Re: Ogou's Iron or Jesus' Irony

kresge ·
This recently came up in a genealogy forum I am a member of. I referenced this article. If anyone grew up in the Black Protestant church, Baptist, Holiness (COGIC), with southern U.S. roots, they are very familiar with spiritual possession. Which is why I don't understand why so many folks are so against African Traditional Religions. I mean all our folks did was mask this stuff with Jesus (Xango) and Mary (Yemaya).
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Re: Spiritual versus Religious

MBM ·
Oops.. forgot to address your first item. You are absolutely correct..well sorta. I think the basic principles applies. e.g. Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, COGIC..they all believe in Jesus. That's the base principle. That doesn't vary much. Then within the different dominations, man has come up with doctrines/rules/practices based upon their interpretation. These doctrines are just the structural layout of that particular denomination. I'm a musician and play for both a baptist and a.m.e.
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Re: Interfaith Relationships

Frenchy ·
I lived in a household with a Jehovah Witness and Baptist..... So imagine my time was spent mainly at some type of religious function....I was a bit confused as a child but I knew my biblical history.... But it works...but I think each person has to be more spiritual than being religious....And I guess you realize there is a difference between a person that is spiritual rather than religious.
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Re: Interfaith Relationships

Frenchy ·
For the record, I have no problem whatsoever with other people's religion insofar as that religion brings them peace, joy, and happiness. I have friends from many different religious backgrounds. What I'm specifically addressing are those religious ideas that are themselves intolerant ... that insist for example that there is ONLY ONE way to achieve peace, contentment, enlightenment, and happiness ... That other people's paths are invalid ... and that won't rest until it has converted you...
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Re: Interfaith Relationships

Frenchy ·
I dated this guy for a while until we had a problem with out religion which didn't come up in the beginning of the relationship. He is a muslim and I'm somewhat of a free spirit. Anyway what broke us up was the conversation about if I got married to someone of a different religion would I reform to theirs. And honestly it all depends. As far as what religion to raise my children in I would teach them all of them and allow them to decide when they get older what religion they want to do. I...
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Re: Black Freshmen At University of Pennsylvania Receive Racist Message Depicting Lynchings

Kocolicious ·
BEST HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES 1 Howard University Howard University counts each of its distinguished faculty among its on-campus population of the largest concentration of black scholars anywhere in the world. Here, 93% of students are African-American. Introductory Afro-American studies courses are required in all undergraduate curriculum, whether pursuing a traditional major or as part of the school's renowned Afro-American and African studies program. The university founded Omega Psi...
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Re: The secret racist history of the Electoral College

sunnubian ·
They should have gotten RID of the electoral voting process a long time ago. It really isn't fair. And really doesn't give an accurate account of the individual voting process. Time for a change. But!
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Re: The secret racist history of the Electoral College

sunnubian ·
Especially when they are not legally bound to their vote reflecting the popular vote. Besides, even the reason that it was concocted, has to make it Unconstitutional to begin with.
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Re: The secret racist history of the Electoral College

sunnubian ·
I agree and now because of this election they are seeing that it is really unfair and don't really represent the state its in. I just heard Trump is attempting to ban lobbyists. I wonder how that will also play in the next elections. But nevertheless, I smell a rat. I think that given that a lot of voters didn't get in including those mail in votes....they are attempting to ignore that mistake. The controversy now is they didn't count all the votes for Hillary [ It says it's about a million...
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Re: The secret racist history of the Electoral College

sunnubian ·
and that's why your Presidential vote doesn't count!!! It has been watered down to the lowest level imaginable. Clinton got more votes that Trump and still lost....if they were running for Governor of a state, she would have one!! They also pad the numbers in states by adding federal prisoners. Prisoners can't vote so they count in the population and not in the ballot count. States with the highest prison pops?? Ohio, Florida, Texas, and California.....aren't these the same states that the...
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Re: The secret racist history of the Electoral College

sunnubian ·
Yep. As why I'm beginning to believe that Hillary dropped the ball in this election in several other ways aside from being betrayed by the 53 percent white women who voted for Trump and the hip hoppers who didn't vote at all. Her arrogance prevented her from hitting the pavement like she should have KNOWING about those electoral votes spewing. In addition, Obama's first presidential win earned more than double the electoral votes [365 to 173] against McCain....way before 8 pm. pacific...
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Re: Bush lies!!

kraaaal ·
Factoid, you appear to be a young white guy, so in the interest of fairness and because you may not be as old and experienced, I will give you the benefit of doubt. But, if I'm wrong about your age and experience and it turns out that you are actually the same age and equally educated, then you are hopelessly lost like your great great grandparents who till their deaths really thought black people were animals no different that cattle! In this case, I write purely out of pity for your...
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Re: Jesus and Christianity

MBM ·
Here again, the assumption of what Israel was as a 'religion'. Why do you perceive the Law of Moses as religion? Where do you find religion in the OT? What did it consist of? I am not religious and I follow the Law. I require no tutoring in how to worship God. What sort of tutoring did the Israelites need that would constitute religion? Based upon whose standards? What Christianity is now is nothing like what Christianity was in the first century; the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that. The Gnostic...
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Re: Black Pastors Rally Against Gay Marriage

MBM ·
Needless to say, this saddens me, but is not at all a surprise. Moreover, to the extent that a considerable number of African American congregations have been infected by white evangelical Christian expressions of religion, they now parrot the rhetoric of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, et al. Finally, it is important to note that it was a minority of black clergy who were actively engaged in the Civil Rights movement. One of the denominations with which I am affiliated - Progressive National...
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Re: Black Pastors Rally Against Gay Marriage

MBM ·
Actually the part of the statement you excised is a common homiletical refrain of the Rev. Dr. J. Alfred Smith of Allen Temple Baptist Church in Oakland, CA and former president of the Progressive National Baptist Church. FYI, I am an ordained American Baptist minister with 12 years pastoral experience.
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Re: In God We Trust!? Is it INRI or IRNI; IRONY

Chevron Dove ·
Peace.... According to what I have studied, the Essene community was in fact the epitome of a monastic community. I think the Nazorean sect of the order was a rebellious faction formed to resist the powers of Rome. The Nazarene faction seems to have rebelled again some of the strict disciplines of the Monastic Essene community which John the Baptist was affiliated with. I think this would explain some of the behaviour of Jesus as it is presented in the Gospels. Yep... Which leads me to...
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Re: Wanted: A Good Black Woman

HonestBrother ·
My prefernce is an old fashion women to an extent. Proud of African American/West Indian/Black African traditions in food and culture. One who is from a Black neighborhood. One who doesn't subscribe to feminism, relativism, multiculturalism or any other white liberal movements. I think a good women is well read. Ambitious and community orientated. I do not attend church nor am I religious but I find religious women - particularly Baptist and AME members, I suppose...
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Re: Men and Girl Friends ...

EbonyRose ·
There is no biological mechanism that creates the barriers that permit platonic relationships to exist. It's all in the mind. So, as a matter of fact, is whether you're "turned on" by someone or not. Therefore, either you are strong enough (mentally) to govern yourself in an appropriate manner throughout the various relationships in your life, or you're not. Faith, unless you contemplate living in a convent, your world must be either pretty one dimensional or pretty wild. All I'm suggesting...
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Re: Are Black men capable of loving Us?

NSpirit ·
Faheem, perhaps it is thru the lens of southern, activist,baptist parents, aunts, uncles etc that I had viewed the silence of brothas while these were being posted as agreement/affirmation. Thru that lens I saw brothas typing misogyny and other brothas failing to correct it. and in my southern, activisti, baptist upbringing one is urged to reach back and teach those who don't know better. Would you be willing to articulate what you believe they were saying so that I may more fully understand...
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Re: If He Were Black... We Wouldn't Attack: Defending The Family Honor - The Difference In Race Speech

Nmaginate ·
Since you were addressing me - Your argumentum ad hominen is a sorry refuse. I stand by my statement of Jiang - if I or any other black person had made his assertions, there would be little or no fallout. From my perception, Jiang was making a statement for clarification. Instead of enlightenment, he/she received a closed mind of "it's not your place to ponder". The black community, as with other communities, has issues. We need to address them. Maintaining a "no airing of dirty linen/keep...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

blaqfist ·
Melesi There are two types of people who claim to worship God, Children of the Devil and true children of God. What differentiates these two is one group finds out the will of God and obeys, these ones are the TRUE Christians- these are the ones on the narrow path of life. The other group behaves like you – always looking for an excuse to do their own thing and claim they are doing the will of God. I say this because from reading previous posts there is this constant leaning on your part to...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

blaqfist ·
The Apostle Paul in his letters in Cols 2:16,17 and Gal. 4:9-11 specifically forbids the holding of certain days as special. Does this mean he was contradicting himself at Romans 14:5-8. On the face of it someone would say, "Yes! He is" Actually he is not. Romans 14:5-8 talks about personal choices which is different from what the Christians should do as one body or congregation. In this regard Cols. 2:16, 17 and Gal. 4:9-11 makes it clear that as to holding certain days as special to...
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Re: MICHIGAN PERSPECTIVES: Black, Christian and gay

ricardomath ·
Actually, I am quite familiar with the Bible. I am an ordained American Baptist minister with two masters and currently in a doctoral program in religious studies. What it seems difficult for many people to understand is reading a text, any text, involves interpretation. This becomes even more complicated with a text such as the Bible or the Qur'an which are remote to the contemporary context temporally, linguistically, and culturally. Thus biblical scholars bring to bare a variety of tools...
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Re: Irreconcilable Religious Differences?

Rowe ·
Well while it is certainly a "Reality" that different cultures usually have different religions (exceptions abound; for instance other-country conversions to Islam, Buddhism, Christianity or Judaism), I'd like to point out that while a person may grow UP in a culture and a certain religion, THAT PERSON IS BY NO MEANS BOUND TO IT FOR ETERNITY IF THEY CHOOSE ANOTHER PATH. An East Indian need not be a Hindu or Sikh; A white person need not be atheist humanist or Christian; a person from an...
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Re: The Underground Railroad lives in the telling

MBM ·
Very interesting! My girlfriend grew up in Lawnside as well - I haven't had a chance to get her response to this article. And my sister-in-law grew up in Savannah, Ga. and attended the 1 st Baptist church - which HAS hiding places under the basement floorboards and HAD tunnels leading to the Savannah river.
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Re: Black leaders with no regard for the facts vilify GOP: USA Today

MBM ·
"While speaking before the Congressional Black Caucus on Saturday night, John Kerry made the baseless, inflammatory claim that the Republican Party would try to suppress black votes in the coming elec[b]tion. Kerry is white, and he was applauded for his words. Addressing the mostly black National Baptist Convention in New Orleans last week, I was booed for about 30 seconds. And I'm black."---Alphonso Johnson (Ooops. Jackson) Secretary Johnson (Ooops. Jackson) doesn't say it, but implies he...
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Re: Black leaders with no regard for the facts vilify GOP: USA Today

MBM ·
Okay, this story sent me to the search engines, and here is what I found! This is the statement made by Kerry ... and the link to the whole speech is HERE Fifty years after the Brown decision, we are also reminded that now, more than ever, we need a Supreme Court that will protect our hard won victories. It was just four short years ago that the Court – by one vote – decided the outcome of the race for president. It was less than a year ago that the Court – by one vote – decided the fate of...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Bill C ·
Oh joy ... he's reminding us of his manhood yet again ... You don't know shit about this board ... or the posters. This was definitively proved when you posted this: without seeming to notice that the MOST VOCAL Hillary fan on the board is OhBlackButterfly ... someone you repeatedly hold up as someone who is "less biased". MOST of us seem to be leaning towards Obama. It's too much for you to pay attention to what people actually say. It's too much for you to notice the ways in which we...
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Re: Are Black Ministers Wimping Out?

MBM ·
I have said it before and will say it again, most black ministers have never been particularly progressive or prophetic. The prophetic tradition has always been a minority. The best book on this is Gayraud Willmores, Black Religion and Black Radicalism. The vast majority of black clergy were not involved in the Civil Rights movement. MLK, Wyatt T. Walker, Gardner Taylor, et al were basically run out of the National Baptist Convention. The vast majority are not active in the human and civil...
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Re: Are Black Ministers Wimping Out?

MBM ·
A am an ordained American Baptist minister with 14 years pastoral experience. I have ministered in three different states. I have also been a co-president of a local ministerial association for three years. There are good ministers out there, but there are also a lot who are in it as I said before, for power, priviledge, and prestige, especially some of the "Godly folk" you see on TV. Too many are shallow, superficial, un/under-educated, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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