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Re: The Importance of Looks Test

Khalliqa ·
The Preferrer You are 70% non-critical of a guy's and/or woman's appearance. You may prefer that a person dress a certain way or really want a great feature or two on them, but sometimes that can be all it takes for you to drop your jaw at the way someone looks. Take lead singer of Evanescence Amy Lee for example. She has some modest curves and a semi goth thing going on. For those of you into men, perhaps lead singer of Linkin Park, Chester Bennington, has a bit of the bad boy image you've...
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Re: The Importance of Looks Test

kresge ·
The Preferrer You are 67% non-critical of a guy's and/or woman's appearance. You may prefer that a person dress a certain way or really want a great feature or two on them, but sometimes that can be all it takes for you to drop your jaw at the way someone looks. Take lead singer of Evanescence Amy Lee for example. She has some modest curves and a semi goth thing going on. For those of you into men, perhaps lead singer of Linkin Park, Chester Bennington, has a bit of the bad boy image you've...
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Re: The Importance of Looks Test

ronin10 ·
You are 68% non-critical of a guy's and/or woman's appearance. You may prefer that a person dress a certain way or really want a great feature or two on them, but sometimes that can be all it takes for you to drop your jaw at the way someone looks. Take lead singer of Evanescence Amy Lee for example. She has some modest curves and a semi goth thing going on. Thanks
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Re: Conservatism and African America

MBM ·
OK - since you asked! Conservatives and Liberals
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Kweli4Real ·
Conspiracy Theorists #1's response: To facilitate another "galvanizing Pearl Harbor event." And, I'm talking about a big "event." [BTW, I searched PNAC's website, it appears they have redacted the Pearl Harbor reference] It's a helluva lot easier to slip a dirty bomb, or even a nuc, in a place if your the one guarding the door. But I think the strategy is not so much to lead us into another military adventure, which I am sure that will follow; but rather to lead to the establishment of an...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Vox ·
The "new Pearl harbor" reference is still there, Kweli... It's on page 63 of the PDF file, page number 51 by the document's actual count. http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf But I just wanted to make sure that I was on a reasonably logical path with this. If the rest of the people in Congress allow this to happen, it is my cue that these wackos have taken complete control of the government. What kind of country will be left for them to control? Like Blaqfist...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Texas Star ·
Updated Title: The Dubai-Al Qaeda Connection: Smoking Gun for Bush?/poll by Hummingbird Tue Feb 21, 2006 at 10:10:30 PM PDT Lots of stuff has been going back and forth over the whole Dubai Ports scandal, but one thing that has been neglected has been the phrase in the media: "There are connections between the United Arab Emirates and Al Qaeda" but it's been vague and hasn't really said much, other than some people from the Emirates participated in 9/11. Considering that any independent...
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Re: What are you listening to right now?

Khalliqa ·
Icognito... featuring lead singer Maysa.... "Deep Waters..." Peace, Virtue
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

kresge ·
I don't have much to add to what ER has said. My wife and I were there for the last two sessions. I definitely think that the the "younger" folk did get the shaft with respect to time. Part of the problem was not only the amount of time taken up by the second group, but the delay in getting right to the panels after lunch, althought I think that it was important to have the survivors or "acheivers" of Hurricane Katrina share their stories as a frame for the discussion. With respect to...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Nmaginate ·
The biggest thing I was trying to communicate is that other POC, e.g., may have very different things if not mostly their own particular self-interested things in mind which can, by virtue of an "alliance", compromise our ultimate objectives. Like you said, Whites need to work/fix Whites. The same for everyone else and we can meet them in the middle... and, if we should happen to meet along the way and actually identify things in particular things - i.e. singular, specific things (as opposed...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Rowe ·
I disagree. Natural meat eaters eat flesh raw. Accordingly, natural meat eaters have claws, sharp teeth, sweat through the mouth, have a short intenstine which is two thirds the length of their bodies (humans are 30 ft. long), their jaws move up and down only, and the stomach can digest hair. Humans lack all of these natural meat eating habits and attributes. Furthermore, the human intestinal tract causes meat to stay in the body for up to 3 days. This causes toxins to be aborbed in the body...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
Rowe.... Rowe.... Rowe.... Rowe..... My Sista...... We share soooo much..... I knew there was something about you I liked... Couldn't put my finger on it... Until now.... Just wanted to let you know I think you're right on point.... By the way.... Love your avatar.... Is that a Faith Ringold portrait? UNOI? You have a PM coming..... Peace, Virtue
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Re: The One....

Khalliqa ·
Sigh..... I don't agree with this..... Being in a relationship with a person you don't love is torture.... and painful to a degree that is unimaginable.... your soul begans to rot away slowly... and the relationship begans to feel like poison....... Having no love in a bond like marriage feels like being weighted down with an anchor and released periodically.... drowning but never dying..... I wish this on no one..... Peace, Virtue
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Re: The One....

xxGAMBITxx ·
You can still have love, but that should not be the foundation that the relationship is standing on. The concept of love just does'nt have the muscle to carry the weight. Plus mutual respect (garnered from both people fullfilling thier educational, employment, and other goals)has proven to be way more effective. Relationships (in my view) should be processed as K=f(x); K= Relationships f=function x= all variables that will ensure a successful and rewarding partnership. After all, in the end...
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Re: The One....

Khalliqa ·
Tried it..... for 12 years.... doesn't work.... many reasons why.... won't go into it.... But I'm feeling a bit lighthearted right now.... So tell me xxGambitxx..... K=f(x)? fuzzy numerology let's say..... the number two represents duality .... let's say ...... the number one represents the creator or creative consciousness... I want longetivity and staying power out of a relationship....... Well.... K=177.5 squared (male and female) f=113 prime solve for x .......... duality resting on the...
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Re: Not all attraction is good attraction...

qty226 ·
Ok, you know im gonna tell you straight!! I see it this way.............really it doesnt matter if she was trying to "irk" the sistas, or not. To me the comment was derogatory at best....and i really think, one of you men should've said something. It appeared that although you men were shocked.........the comment didnt really 'hit' you to the point of responding. Im sorry, but if i was sitting there.....i would not intervene. I would be waiting for your lead........allowing you to handle the...
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Re: Does good love making require skill?

HeruStar ·
To me sex is like a dance. Someone has to take the lead. A man must be skilled at following or taking the lead. If he isn't skilled at either, there will be toe-stepping, head butting excuse me's flying all over the place. Let's say she tolerates this awkward dance long enough to stumble into a climax. The climax wouldn't be very good, as a matter of fact it wouldn't even be worth mentioning.
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Re: I'm In Love With A Stripper?

bigddouble ·
Somehow, I knew you'd raise this point before I got back to this thread. This is the model minority fallacy at its finest. If you don't like the music, don't buy it, don't listen to stations that play it, teach people your perspective and encourage those in your reach to follow your lead (if they agree with your assessment).
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Re: Albinism: The "Bleached" Uncolor {Revisee}

Kai ·
Peace.... Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin By Rick WeissWashington Post Staff Writer Friday, December 16, 2005; Page A01 Scientists said yesterday that they have discovered a tiny genetic mutation that largely explains the first appearance of white skin in humans tens of thousands of years ago, a finding that helps solve one of biology's most enduring mysteries and illuminates one of humanity's greatest sources of strife. The work suggests that the skin-whitening...
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Re: "Church Of The Spread Legs"

FireFly ·
yes, HB, I was very much in my own mindset here and totally oblivious to the less than a year's dating concept. My bad. After 3 outings however, I'd be expecting Mr Iceman to defrost and reveal his real self. Or as close as he can get. For me, 'just dating' is more like socializing. If both of you enjoy each others' company, it doesn't have to actually lead somewhere, but for me, I would rather put more energy into sustaining either long term friendships or long term relationships. I have...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Shango67 ·
I strongly disagree. Those are passive examples of particpation. We need to do much, much, more. The vanguards of the current system need to be out of business. Education is a political event and true educational reform has to be sponsored by the masses. Public school systems in the United States were born from the need to provide the nation with a constant labor force primarily made up of whites. As this nation moved from an agrarian society to a nation where goods were mass produced,...
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Re: Males vs. Men

HonestBrother ·
VERY good point In fact, I think this is crucial... someone who has to lead ALL the time isn't a real man. This person has control/self-esteem issues. Sometimes it's best to allow others to lead... One mark of an effective leader is knowing when to let other people lead...
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Re: Males vs. Men

FireFly ·
yes I have to agree with this too. On first reading it did irk me slightly - shudders to remember recently departed alpha male - however, I believe a true leader does so co-operatively anyway, and will/does allow others to lead... effectively leading indirectly... and with the right motives - the benefit to the group. Yes, I also agree with you Black Viking... knowing when to step back and hand over the reins is a wonderful quality. .
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

ma'am ·
I attend friends' family reunions were there are still huge debates over how crappy and messed up MLK was. How crappy and messed up X was. LOL. I don't think people really became messiahs until they are six feet under. They spark debate when they are alive and then get a lot more sympathy and kudos after death. People who complain about a lack of leadership should feel like they are chastising themselves. Lead yourself. Aid your community. For every guy with a mic there are thousands of no...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Frenchy ·
It's haterade to have standards, a point of view? Haterade to require that someone put forth their agenda and convert you like anyone else looking for a following? There's a difference between "hating" (I hate that stupid word) and just plain not agreeing with someone's platform or thinking they are a good leader. There's clearly a shortage of good leadership with a good agenda. ( Al "Tawana Brawley Hoax" Sharpton ?!) I think that is so backwards (and completely impossible). How would that...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Frenchy ·
No, he is not the only one, but he certainly would get a lion's share of the glory/compensation/input/credit. I had a whole big thing written, but I think instead I'll say this: I think we have drastically different ideas of what it is to be a leader. I require that my leaders actually lead something, which involves active work on their part to formulate ideas and do everything they can to see that it gets support and becomes reality. You don't seem to mind if you have to force-feed your...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

MBM ·
Your powers of imagination are quite potent. I've said nor intimated nothing to infer this. In fact, I require no less than anybody else - actually probably much more since I think I can come up with an idea or two myself about things! That said, I just flat out disagree with many who complain about a lack of leadership in our community. As I've said, there are PLENTY of people who have stepped up. There are far fewer people who have stepped up to be good followers - that's my point. You may...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Shango67 ·
MBM When I talked about the HBCU's, I was speaking in the context of building upon the institutions that may be able to support Black folks who decided to pursue higher education. I was speaking in the context that Black folks use HBCU's and reject the notion that our best, brightest, and gifted scholars must have their scholarship validated by Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, etc... There is no reason why a cure for cancer can't come from a Black student enrolled at Howard Medical. For...
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Re: Oral Tradition vs. Written

Vox ·
That's... a pretty impressive point. Based on the dichotomy between what you're saying and what I observed, what would you say about this idea: Ideally in a society like ours, some sort of institution, maybe the schools, maybe a community-based organization for young people, is where this communal knowledge-sharing can begin. Part of the knowledge, of course, points the people in the direction of books to read among the other things. In my life, I've witnessed this very thing you're talking...
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Kai ·
Peace.... I agree. The problem is that the natural progression of real leadership is always stifled by opposition coming from the opinion creators in the media. Yhere are those who do not wish to see the rise of real black leadership.. The direct route is closed, and heavily fortified. And so an indirect approach is needed...leaders may have to emerge who lead outside of the lime light. Indeed. Kai
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Re: Leaders or Followers?

Khalliqa ·
Again.... if it is true leadership these obstacles would not thrive..... not a successful leader.... Why would I follow someone who cannot figure out how to defeat the opposition? Overtly or not.... Of course..... but again.... if it is true leadership.... then well... those who follow will know..... and if they are in the majority..... this conversation does not have to take place..... it will be understood..... and then you will have "successful" leadership...... Peace, Virtue
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Re: And Then....

Kai ·
Peace.... ...Are standing against a police squad car, with their hands clutched together fastened by handcuffs. One of the officers leans into his patrol car and grabs his radio. "Chief, we have apprehended the guys responsible for the perfume pranks..I'm bringin them in now..Over. Oh by the way Chief, we're also gonna need an ambulance, there is another guy here with a few bumps and bruises...seems like there has been an altercation and assualt." "What the hell happened here" the Director...
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Re: Conjecture.....

umbrarchist ·
Debating isn't about cold hard facts and cold hard logic. Debating is about manipulating the audience. That is why the palefaces are into rhetoric, oratory and sophistry. When cold hard facts and cold hard logic lead to obvious conclusions that people don't like it goes out the window. It becomes a matter of bullsh!tting people. umbra
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Re: Men love promiscuous women..They just don't want to marry one.

Kai ·
Peace... I will not disagree with this. AudioGuy, I just need to know that if I do not defend myself on this forum when attacked, someone will speak out, and respond with corrective action. I welcome those who wish to attack my views... Personal attacks are out of bounds. When someone aims to destroy my reputation (even if it is an online persona) I am naturally inclined to defend myself. I will resist this urge if I know that the situation will be handled by those selected to deal with such...
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Re: Condi for President? No thank you.

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the vote of confidence My fellow Americans.... In all seriousness, a Ph.D. might say you're smart.... but it doesn't qualify you for anything except teaching, researching, and being an authority on the subject in which you received the Ph.D. People also say that G.W. Bush can't be that dumb since he has a Yale degree... But I have an ivy league degree too (Princeton) and know first hand that there are dumb asses in those schools like in any other - rich dumb asses... but still...
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Re: African American Suicide

kresge ·
I was shocked as well when I read it in the book. When I was doing my counseling training years ago, the numbers that we had showed that AA youth hardly ever committed suicide, that this was definitely more of a white thing. The conventional wisdom was that if a black youth died of non-natural causes or accident, it was most likely due to black youth killing one another. Yet, there was always a sense with respect to the latter, that such violence was rooted in self-hatred/self-destructive...
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Re: And Then....

Kai ·
Peace.... A car door opens from the lead vehicle in the motorcade. A monstrous mass packed into a black suit emerges from the vehicle. His hand clutches tightly against his earpiece..."Are you folks O.K.?" he says in a manner which displays more curiosity than concen. Audio Guy studies the Agent, and then replies"Yeah, we're fine..what is goin on over there?" the agent ignores the question, and turns to walk away..Audio Guy reaches reaches into his back pocket, the agent begins to reach for...
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Re: Organizing the discussion

bigddouble ·
Back on topic - I've been part of several book clubs. Sometimes the discussion leader will generate a list of questions based on the book's content. Othertimes, discussions start with " How believable/credible/achievable is the story/information in the book?" Typically, someone serves as a boundary monitor to make sure tangential discussion eventually get routed back to the original topic. The information is footnoted for each chapter - Do we explore those sources? Are we aiming to implement...
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Re: Organizing the discussion

bigddouble ·
This thread is about organizing the discussion of the book. Please keep all the off-topic bickering out of this thread. Unless one (or both) of you is volunteering to lead a discussion, your comments are . Thanks for the courtesy in advance-
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Re: Organizing the discussion

FireFly ·
I hear ya. My original comments were on topic. If I get the book I may comment. It was always as simple as that.
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Re: Organizing the discussion

Khalliqa ·
I'll be purchasing the book this week.... I like ddouble's suggestion of discussing the book section by section..... Peace, Virtue
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
No scholar (outside of mathematics) proves anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. You can only put forth the best case possible. And then hope it survives peer review and contradictory evidence. But I will check out Cheik Anti Diop... Because I am interested in knowing all the evidence. No... by no means whatsoever am I claiming to be the only intellectual on the board.... but I do take it personally when "intellectuals" as a group are indiscriminately attacked. Black intellectuals - those who...
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Re: shag, marry, push off a cliff...

Khalliqa ·
Not changing the rules, tru...... accomodating for those of us who would like to play and participate but keep our values.... This game was played on another all female site..... and the words were something like.... f**k, date, marry, kill..... to allow the Muslims to play..... whenever one of us would post we simply tweaked the words a bit.... so we were comfortable.... it was no big deal for any one and the game was played for a long time..... it was fun for everyone..... I'm not trying...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
As long as we're going to cover our ears and just shout past one another repeating ourselves It's this sorta back and forth crap over nothing that leads to us never having anything... amen.... amen... a few scraps of syllables on a page ... and what makes it worse is that its function in Hebrew is mostly trivial. It's basically a period... Whatever... Obviously my contributions are not welcome on this thread....
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
There's nothing wrong with being like any of these people... I'm sure they're all worthy individuals in their own way... What I support is each of us allowing others of us the space we need to discover and be ourselves... You can't support Black liberation without supporting the liberation of black persons... By which I mean that it makes no sense to me when people claim to be for the freedom of black people and then proceed to put a number of moreorless arbitrary restrictions on what it is...
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Re: Organizing the discussion

MBM ·
I'm thinking that we should start the discussion pretty soon. I still get the sense that some are waiting for their books, but I think we should kick things off and let people join as they are able. We'll break the book into various sections and create separate threads to discuss each. I'll lead the first discussion to start and we can gauge involvement etc. to monitor the pace of things. I look forward to it!
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Re: Too Much Sex?

Blacksanction ·
Rowe If I had the stamina and partner to have sex twice a day I would. I could think of nothing better than joining my lifemate in the celebration of our life together everyday and night. I do not believe that there is such a thing as too much sex. It all depends on the persons involve in the relationship. Sex is not going to diminish sperm and lead to infertility, make you a dullard or grow hair on your palms if you masturbate. Okay I do wear glasses but my poor eyesight is not from...
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Re: Too Much Sex?

Rowe ·
Okay then, but don't call me when you'll need that Viagra later. Take two pills and call me in the morning.
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Re: Too Much Sex?

HonestBrother ·
Rowe, we all appreciate your efforts to keep our erections strong and our sperm counts at peak efficiency
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