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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
.....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... .....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc., ...... ......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer...
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Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women

RadioRaheem ·
Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Guest ·
At the end of either process the Black baby is................? 1) Alive because "We know not the womb that holds the king"? or 2) Disposed of? Problem solved. **** Nick Cannon - "Can I Live?" Good thing HIS mother didn't express her "choice" http://www.nickcannonmusic.com/caniliveqt.html
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
"I wonder how many Black people really give a schit about how they are LOOKED at ..." by Kevin41 "I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious .... when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters ....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here........." by Kevin41 ************************** ".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... ..... the...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

MidLifeMan ·
From all the back and forth that we – black men and women – do, it would appear that can be said for both sides. One rule I think all people should follow is "Don't ask of others what you are not willing or able to do yourself in return". I always find it funny see a fat, bald, bad dressing brother who has his mind set on dating a super model. We can get a beer belly and look like a dressed up Easter egg but let woman put a little baby weight and men are ready to trade them in. And then you...
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Re: Dating Tips (For Men)

folobatuyi ·
Thanks Rowe....
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

qty226 ·
I guess both men/women can only see their side of things...because of experiences. But i have issues with those that 'want' more than they 'are'. As Sweetwuzzy mentioned..... "Some Sisters suffer from low self-esteem. Society, relationship experts say, teaches that Black women are the lowest on the social scale--what Zora Neale Hurston calls "mules of the world." "Men have a much higher self-esteem," says Moore. "They are taught not to settle. No matter how they look or what age they are,...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I started this thread because I thought that it provided women with some good dating advice. Honest. Soon this thread turned into, like other threads, a battleground for negativity. I backed away from this thread for that reason. As for posting something 'nice' for the ladies, i've found that no matter what I post, be it pictures of beautiful sisters, dating advice, honest perspectives from a single male's point of view, song lyrics/music video links, etc I get nothing but crapped on. It's...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
Kevin, Nmaginate, All I gotta say is, that Kneegrow is insane (CF). He's so effing non-sensical and self-hating, that he's giving me high blood pressure just talking to him, I think I'm going to stop while my health is still ahead, and I still have my sanity...... I wish we had an "ignore" feature around here so we could all put CF on our Ignore List.
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Re: Should Black People...

Kevin41 ·
***That schit with him and Lofton has grown old indeed.....but i'm sure it will fizzle down to nothing this year...its overdue......
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

HonestBrother ·
I didn't know about Albert Sloan. I actually worked at Miles College when he was President. But then they say you shouldn't speak ill of the dead...
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Re: How The Bush Administration Hurts The Black Community

Kevin41 ·
Man shut up with that self-importantce bullschit this morning Lofton..no one gives a fuck about what you think or your weird azz writing style you picked up from the ward....you're the joke Lofton...you grew up to be someone so alienated from your own that you seek out white racists for affiliation...now talking about jokes....do you really think those hateful azz inbreds at stormfront take you seriously? hell no...you're like ward coonerly and the rest....racists find you useful to help...
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Re: **Constantine: The Father of Christianity[With Just A Hint of Paganism!]??**

Empty Purnata ·
LOL! "Saint" Augustine used to be a Manichean before he became a "Christian" around 400 C.E. He was a Manichean Gnostic (who are influenced by Zoroastrianism) and kept much of his Manichean theology and tried to tie it into Christianity. The doctrines of: Corruption of the Physical Body, Innate Powerlessness, Eternal Salvation, Eternal Damnation, Defilement of Women, Pisticity (Faith-Onlyness) and disdain of spiritual knowledge, Classical Theism (God seperate from Self), Satan (God of...
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Re: Dating Tips (For Men)

MidLifeMan ·
Oversimplified and nothing new. Think Positive? Most men have found out one of life's little secrets – women like confident men. But when constantly faced with dealing with rejection, how long before chinks in the armor start to show. Men have self esteem issues also. I personally think that many of those that appear to have great self confidence i.e. I'm a pimp/player mentality are masking low self esteem issues. I remember a singles network event where a woman shared that she decided that...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

FireFly ·
I agree.... this is a really important point and I wondered - from the teachers among you (?) - if this aspect of teaching is ever touched on in training, or discussed between teachers. My other question is, after initial 'teacher training' and beyond day-to-day teaching experience where/how do teachers expand their knowledge? I'm curious... teaching is a mix of psychology, curriculum, staying technology-literate, ideas, and being socially-aware. Corporations have seminars and training...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
CF...you're not that big on comprehension so what something SEEMS like to you is always questionable...once you get the things under your belt that I have done....you MIGHT be in the position to offer scrutiny...but you're in the stage of your life where you are trying to figure out your own existence, let along help others.... I am a product of public schools in Texas and there are many black kids who perform at a level higher than the whites or asians you covet...just like how whites were...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Uppity Negress, Blacks maintained SOCIALLY conservative views during our advancement, not POLITICALLY conservative views. One has to do with family marriage, religion and morality which we are all for. The other relates to politics and policies such as repeals on AA that has always worked adversely against blacks...and if you ever look at what the black majority believes in, the political conservatives are diametrically opposed to it 100% of the time. That tells me that one of two things are...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
Constructive Feedback: thank you for ASS uming you know where I stand. If you have read any of my posts, you would know that I am for voluntary Black separatism and strengthening our own communities economically and politically through self-investment, not through asking the Democrats to through us a bone (or smiling when we perceive the conservatives do). Why do you criticise people who agree with you? At any rate, it doesn't change the fact that it is a f*cked up thing to do to deny a...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
True, these are sadly too absent from the Asian-American Community. There are good Asian-American musicians, artists and entertainers, I'm not sure I would say the entertainers are "great" (as in universally notoriable). Just like Afrian-Americans, Asian-Americans also face a glass ceiling in this country as well. They are expected by White Americans to be nothing more than businessmen and scientists. Just keep serving YT and keep their noses to the grind. I think some Asian-American...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

MBM ·
It is that very self-interest that you describe above that is at the root of just about all of humanity's problems and evils. Either we learn to accept the fact that we're all in this together and that we live in a community of human beings all over the Earth, or, we will continue to exploit and pollute and harm each other to humanity's ultimate demise. BTW - for all of you whp are motivated by scripture, what did the Bible say about "the least of these"? I guess Bush, conservatives, and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
* I'm not a politcal science professor dumbazz...I teach over 15 different courses in business admin, public admin and technology management.....can you read and comprehend? You tend to paint people with YOUR brush...you're not educated enough to do so. And if you want to place the onus on me in terms of behaviors, act like my students in my masters and doctorate programs and answer questions factually and non-rhetorically, provide factual support to your statements and learn the concepts...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"If KEVIN wants to act like an adult WHO IS A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR WITH A DOCTORATE I am more than willing to deal." by CF * I'm not a political science professor dumbazz ...I teach over 15 different courses in business admin, public admin and technology management.....can you read and comprehend? You tend to paint people with YOUR brush...you're not educated enough to do so. . And if you want to place the onus on me in terms of behaviors, act like my students in my masters and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
See what I mean everyone? This guy is trying to pull on emotional heartstrings in others that are not even there. You all are too preoccupied with your own lives to let what anyone say in a message board have a bearing on you and negatively affect your mentality. Now I specifically outlined the relative comparisons and all I get is a hateful response that is supposed to elicit anger from me. Well, that is not going to happen. The other tactic Lofton employs, which someone else (EP, I think)...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"If KEVIN wants to act like an adult WHO IS A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR WITH A DOCTORATE I am more than willing to deal." by CF * I'm not a political science professor dumbazz ...I teach over 15 different courses in business admin, public admin and technology management.....can you read and comprehend? You tend to paint people with YOUR brush...you're not educated enough to do so. . And if you want to place the onus on me in terms of behaviors, act like my students in my masters and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Nah Isome...those days of giving little mikey attention have fizzled down to nothing......what the hell...i made a decent effort up front to communicate so to hell with it......i read some of the old posts Ricardo chronicled and I was really too damn diplomatic in the first place...just takes a minute to figure it out when you trying to give a fool the benefit of the doubt. Remember when I said so in the thread about New Years resolutions? Well as you can see today is the 7th.....once I get...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns. You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America rather than spending it on your fellow Americans. There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Guest ·
Kevin: Let me give you some CONTEXT to your statements above. Inevitably there will be some over the top incident that a Black person or group of Blacks commit. Rather than condemn THIS PARTICULAR EVENT and clearly articulate how THIS EVENT HAS VIOLATED EVERYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE....... You (and my enemy Isome) will IMMEDIATELY do a web search and find and occassion in which WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT THE OUTRAGE HAS NOT FOLLOWED. So Kevin - does this benefit the Black victim...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: Christian Psychologist Admits Manic-Depression Amongst Pentecostals

Melesi ·
EP, Actually, I'm not surprised. The sample is very likely self-selecting, but it is important for all that. Certain personality types are attracted to fundamentalism and to pentecostalism, and to find bipolar and manic-depression there figures. This doesn't mean that we have the right to sneer at them (I'm not saying that you are doing so, though it would be difficult to suppress a self-satisfied snicker), for they really need education as well as help. Given the etiology of both disorders,...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Sistah Souljah

Fine ·
msprettygirl--I first heard about this fantastic black woman on Geraldo Rivera's Show in 1989. She, Reverend Sharpton were pitted again a group of white supremist. SS held her own and stood up to those racist. From that point on I saught to find out who this female was that stood up to racist with such vigor, strength and self assurance. She attended Salamanca--that famous school of higher learning in Spain [i.e. founded, organized by the Moors]....
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Kevin41 ·
Well Frenchy, If you insist...maybe i'll just go out on a crusade against their azzes and then you'll be satisified with your take on my positions with them. Will that satisfy your need to tell me what I really think about gays when I said specifically I really do not give a damn if they suceed or fail and I would not assist or inhibit them? Next time, just don't ask me....do like CF and tell me what I think....and then schit will be the way you see it and not how I said I embraced it.......
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Melesi ·
EP, Evangelicals, I think, don't need to prove themselves loyal to God. You might have a more Catholic theology there. Where Catholics and Orthodox pray about "being made worthy to be heard in the presence of your divine majesty," and such, evangelicals would never choose to pray like that. The Reformation idea of "sola fides, sola gratia, sola scriptura" ("by faith alone, by grace alone, by Scripture alone") is very strong. It's not always thought through among us, logic not always being...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
** This is why we must push to educate the black populous. For the last few years, the CalStart program that sends lower-income people to the CalState schools had a surplus of money. While a teacher in that system, I was able to get people to encuorage others they knew to apply for and utilize the monies available. Between that and contributing to black organizations for thelast 20 years and taking young black males to Camp Sigma to learn about self-esteem, acacdemic acheivement and gang,...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

HonestBrother ·
Was 2Pac self-destructive? Yes. Was he a role-model to follow? No. But he was a brilliant young man who was angry and confused just like a lot of us are. People forget Pac died when he was 25 - I think people try to forget. How many people have their sh*t together when they're 25? I was confused and self-destructive at 25. And, with all respect, I believe that the refusal to place 2Pac in that context, plays into the tendency that denies human complexity to black folk. But it's neither here...
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

FireFly ·
I'm divided over the value of national tests. They can provide a basic overall sketch of generic skill levels, and make a nice colourful barchart, but fail to give an indepth picture of regional requirements, specialized skillsets, and demographics. I agree with Kweli4Real that teaching children how to think has more long term value that anything else. Frustratingly, in most institutions (and the public imaginaation) the arts are viewed and treated mostly as trivial and with little academic...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

Fagunwa ·
Did I introduce 2pac into this topic or did you? How does what you wrote differ from what I wrote besides the justification for poor behavior? How did I deny human complexity to 2pac or by inference any other african? In fact the word complex is in my post. I thought Vox was making a joke so I injected a little humor in a post, did I enter your house unawares? I have been 25 years old but I was not "confused or self-destructive" I was in grad school (wait maybe I was confused) . Sorry I...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

HonestBrother ·
OK. I hijacked the tread. I'm guilty!
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Re: Some sobering statistics on poverty

Pace Tua ·
Unfortunately, these numbers and what they mean have become "normalized", in the sense put forward by Edward Herman in his book "Triumph of the Market". It can only be so, as capitalism panders to the uncontrolled greed and self-interest of the few. These statistics have to be accepted, normalized or else people would realize something is wrong and this is a threat to capitalist culture. And there is a method to all this as well. One of the cornerstones is to promote the banality of evil.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
...the legacy of AA, Social Welfare, our disgraceful elected representatives, and/or that no good Black middleclass who praise them. .....and pat yourself on the back if you've distanced yourself from that inept, sleazy, worthless no good Black middleclass..... ********************************** "Former Aide's Guilty Plea Implicates Congressman Brett M. Pfeffer details conspiracy and bribery claims against Democrat William J. Jefferson. By Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writer January 12,...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

Isome ·
I agree that racism is inextricably linked to the power to subjugate another group, or otherwise interfere with their social or economic acension. I don't believe a self-loathing need-to-grow, even if acting as a gatekeeper, can be a racist , although that does make him a prejudiced or bigoted dullard... not to mention a whole azz.
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
FULL OF SHIT. WHITE SHIT at that. What the hell are you talking about? What the hell is "The National Standard of Living", WHITE BOY?? And how does that BULLSHIT relate to the reality of things here in America? Note: First, you will have to quantify what the "National Standard of Living (N-SoL)" is. Once you do that, with respect to whatever you're referencing (i.e. whatever it is that makes you call the SoL "national"), you will have to demonstrate how that is what is going on. Don't PUNK...
 
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