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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Empty Purnata ·
Haha, I know what you mean. It always seems that Leftists are the only ones sticking up for non-Whites and the oppressed. You're a Nkrumist? KEWL! Kwame Nkrumah was one of my favorite people in African history!! Him and Patrice Lumumba (who I have pictured in my new avatar). Hats off to you too, comrade.
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Yemaya ·
Yes HIP HOP, Rock and Roll and music industry in general and life itself has its hedonistic side. We can see that through the excesses of the unearned wealth of heirs in this country, like the Hiltons, the Rockerfellers, etc. However, this topic has NOTHING to do with that or the Left/Liberal/Progressives. The direct question was, what has Conservatist/Conservatism/Conservatives done or will do to improve the lot of African-Americans? I mean now is your opprotunity to really drop some...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Empty Purnata ·
Haha, I have it up because Patrice Lumumba was one of my favorite leaders in African History. One of my other favorites is Kwame Nkrumah, but I used the Lumumba poster because I think it looks more artistic. Lumumba is one of my favorite Black Leftists of all time (his successor Laurent-Désiré Kabila was awesome too).
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

HonestBrother ·
Iraqis are not in the United States. Are they free? Haiti is a sovereign independent black nation. But their politics have been influenced (usually for the worse) by us from the beginning. Same with Castro's Cuba... Zaire was an independent African nation under Patrice Lumumba... until he was assassinated with the help of the CIA. I could go on... But these are points that I have never heard separatists deal with adequately. Lastly, aren't black folk capable of being oppressive? In fact,...
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

HonestBrother ·
One more time: Will someone please explain to me the ways in which we are not free now... and precisely how moving somewhere else (WHERE specifically is ANOTHER problem altogether) is going to change that?.... I believe in another thread when I declared the need for us to claim our freedom, someone - who shall remain unnamed - had a fit... but is now eloquently quoting Thomas Jefferson to that effect... In case you missed it before: Lest someone give Israel as an example of some folks who...
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Re: Illegal Immigration

Empty Purnata ·
Yes, in Capitalist dictatorships like Singapore, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Argentina, Saudia Arabia, Croatia and Cambodia. Zimbabwe is a proto-Fascist Neoliberal dictatorship BACKED BY THE US GOVERNMENT, I might add. Before you go on and on about dictatorships, go read up on your beloved gub'ment's relationship with them. Our military-industrial complex trained guerilla fighters on US military bases to murder Socialist leaders like Patrice Lumumba (in my avatar) and Kwame Nkrumah and supported...
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Re: Nationalism VS Assimilation

ZAKAR ·
January 24, 1965. Malcolm X Speaks at OAAU Rally on Afro-American History. Listen to this Speech its on Malcolm x: A Research site. I'm a Black Nationalist, in the Tradition of Malcolm, Nkrumah, Seku Ture, Patrice Lumumba, CLR James, and George Patmore and of course John Henrike Clarke Amos Wilson among others. I believe in African peoples uniting institutionally all around the world. I believe there can be no liberation for an African anywhere if the African Continent isn't free. I believe...
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Re: Was Aristide Kidnapped.

Guest ·
I agree with you Afroman. Let's look at the facts of this situation. A few days ago it was reported that Aristide had signed an agreement to share power with the opposition, then he is said to have signed his resignation, as of yesterday he has left Haiti. He came out with a statement just before he all of this kicked off saying that he would not concede to the demands of thugs. So what has happened in the last few days? Now Randall Robinson gets on CNN and says that Aristide has been...
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Re: Imperialism - Wars Without End

Oshun Auset ·
Central Africa, a catastrophe created by capitalism 2 December 1996 By the Editorial Board The impoverished states of Central Africa have once again become the scene of terrible human suffering. Barely two years after the slaughter in Rwanda claimed more than 1 million lives, new scenes of hunger, disease and mass flight are being broadcast around the world. Thousands have already died in the chaotic exodus across the borders of Zaire and Rwanda. Countless children have been separated from...
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Re: What influence would Malcolm X have had on world affairs had he lived?

kresge ·
As I suggested above, I do not think that either the death of Malcolm (or Martin) were simply the machinations of a small number of NOI or whites that where upset with what these men where saying. While I tend to be suspicious of many conspiracy theories, we are talking about the era of Hoover, COINTELPRO, the Cold War, etc. I think that first Malcolm and later Martin were seen as threats nationally and internationally. Malcolm, for instances, commented on the surveillance that he was under,...
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Re: African and Black American Relations: An African Perspective

KISONGO ·
hi everybody, thanks for the warm welcome back. First of all I want to apologize about my English. Yes I am a newcomer in the West (in Canada where I currently live, so it's true I am newcomer in America!). For those of you who see no "differences" between the diverse peoples of African ancestry, well let me ask you why we don't "hang out" together? Because most of us prefer to stay between our own people and own cultures....And I want to addresss Oshun-Auset particularly, Africans born on...
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Re: African and Black American Relations: An African Perspective

Fagunwa ·
My name is Fagunwa Oladayo Fatunmise. I was born in Ile Ife, Nigeria. I am Anago "Yoruba".I have no need for a Luba or anyone else to "connect" with me. My needs for connection are fulfilled by my wife. As for your statement that continental Africans are not westernized that is a lie. Some of the most materialistic, pentacostal bible thumping people I know are continental Africans. You must not have been home recently or you must not really understand what being "westernized" means. The...
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Re: African and Black American Relations: An African Perspective

KISONGO ·
You certainly have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine based on "my" experience. I have never felt welcomed by any African Diasporian, I have never felt any desire by them (even those with parents born on the continent) to know more about African culture above the superficiality or the fashionable. You talk so much about African religion, for me to only speak about religion to African Americans and not to inform them about the "daily life" in Africa is nonesense. Perhaps...
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Re: Are Liberals Really All That Different From Conservatives?

Empty Purnata ·
All Democratic presidents in the 20th century (with Jimmy Carter being the only semi-exception) were as fervently and thoroughly anti-leftist and anti-radical as right-wing Republican presidents and politicians. The Red Scare of the early 20th century took place under Democratic presidents as well as Republican. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, while trying to continue FDR's legacy of Social Democracy, openly supported fascist regimes abroad. Both of them (both Democrats) supported...
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Re: List Of US-Supported Dictators

Empty Purnata ·
Since when have Progressives supported left-wing causes? Progressives are democratic capitalists. I think you mean Radicals who are socialists, communists, syndicalists, anarchists and environmentalists of all political shades. How is Hugo Chavez undemocratic? He's democratically elected and he's actually making Venezuela more democratic than the US. He's de-privitizing the industry and putting it in the hands of workers. Worker-owned firms are sprouting at a fast rate in Venezuela.
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Re: Why Is So Much of Africa Poor and Underdeveloped?

Guest ·
UppityNegress, the answer to your question has many variations. I will answer what I believe to be one of the main problems of African Underdevelopment. We all know that Africa had a past before European colonization. However, after European colonization, the Middle Passage which took as many as 100 million Africans from all over the continent, and the division of African by the Euopeans for material gain; Africa began to go downhill. European interference in African affairs has caused many...
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Re: Member Quotes That They Really Didn't Say

Empty Purnata ·
LOLZ!
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Re: Assassination

Vox ·
Man, you're killin' me! (I couldn't resist.) The Patrice Lumumba situation is the main thing that bothers me about assassination. This man could have been removed from power and still somehow been able to make a difference with his powerful voice, even from exile. I'm not comfortable with our ability to correctly decide who should and shouldn't be targeted. Lumumba was a "socialist" then, but so was Boris Yeltsin, I imagine. BTW, in my spare time over the summer, I started studying Arabic.
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Re: Why the conflicts multiply in Africa?

Souljah ·
Henry38, ouch! Why would you come here and hurt my feelings. (Just kidding) By virtue of what you said in the last paragraph you describe Pan-Africanism. Now I must say that many blacks in America, not necessarily from the U.S. but some in the Carribean did try to aid African the best way they knew how. For example, Raoul Peck who made the docudrama about Lumumba, his parents actually moved from Haiti to the Congo to practice their professions in a newly independent Congo. To this day, the...
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Re: So Let Me Get This Straight .... Bush Just Straight Out Tried to Kill Sadaam?

kresge ·
Its not like this is the first time that we have tried to or actually have been involved in attempts to assasinate leaders in other countries. The Church Committee in 1975 uncovered many instances whereby the CIA had either planned an assassination, or backed one, doing away with such individuals such as president Patrice Lumumba, (Congo) president Salvador Allende (Chile) Che Guevara, president Rafael Trujillo, (Dominican Republic) and many attempts on president Fidel Castro. In the case of...
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Re: The "TEAMS" of life's competition.

Lipati ·
Thank you, Noah for your usual sane and well-informed perspective. It's good to know Brothers like you in the Diaspora do not put garbage in their head and try to connect at least spiritually with the Motherland. If you only knew the terrible situation we are in right now. In CONGO here we literally starve. The system intended by colonization only produce injustice and anarchy regardless of our cries and protests. You are very aware of the misery here Noah. The most painful part is that even...
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Re: Terroism question?

Oshun Auset ·
ocatchings, Here are some "reason" for "terrorism". Remember one mans' terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, and war is never pretty. I personally didn't feel the "unity" many speak of after 9/11. I saw false unity that quickly dissolved, or like AudioGuy pointed out "overly nice white people", that soon changed their minds. I was actually sickened by the whole fake, media sponsored "unity" show. I hated to here phrases like "The world will never be the same.", like the rest of the...
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Re: Amnesty and Undocumented Workers

ZAKAR ·
Black Latin America This page focuses on the people of African descent in Latin America. There is confusion as to who should be considered Black or what country should be a Latin American nation. Latinos or Latin Americans includes people from the nations in the western hemisphere whose number one language is the Latin derived Spanish. Brazil, a Portugese speaking country is included because of the similar history with Spanish-speaking nations. English-speaking Belize, although technically...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Oshun Auset ·
No, that's you... I quoted you. You are the spin doctor... More projection I see... Oh, now it's a joke... But you just defended your terminology... Why defend your terminology if you purposely meant to use the term 'British' for the sake of humor? Nice try at a spin... but you are only making yourself dizzy. You may also want to read up on Patrice Lumumba... who was assassinated courtesy of the CIA... You may also want to look into what multinational corporations that are resource raping...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Romulus Burnett ·
I was waiting for you to fall back on the CIA involvement when the U.S. was trying to overthrow the undesirable regime that had ties with Cuba and, thereby, the rest of the communist party. But what you fail to state is if it weren't for U.S. intervention the Congo would still be lead by Marxist ideals, which is why the Congo eventually re-established a relationship with the U.S. and followed the U.S.'s multi-party democracy blue print. Come on. Throw something else at me. Please.
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Oshun Auset ·
Who/What are you talking about? Joseph Mobutu's 32 years president/dictator 'father of corruption' ass?(Who the U.S. seemed to like) Wow, you are one scary brother... You buy into the imperialist ideology hook line and sinker... RIF... Patrice Émery Lumumba (2 July 1925 – 17 January 1961) was an African anti-colonial leader and the first legally elected Prime Minister of the Republic of the Congo after he helped to win its independence from Belgium in June 1960. Only ten weeks later,...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Romulus Burnett ·
It's very interesting, in a biased way of course, how your incomplete post emphasizes whatever historical information that points to the U.S. government holding the smoking gun. However, its astounding, in an equally biased way, how your incomplete post harps on what happened during the Eisenhower administration but completely leaves out what happened during the Johnson administration. Lets begin with this August 1960 cable from CIA station chief Lawrence Devlin: [B] EMBASSY AND STATION...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Romulus Burnett ·
Just to show you how good of a sport I am and completely in the interest of the complete and utter truth I'm going to pull this peice of information out of your post, oshit asset, and say that this story is not the story I was told: The story I was told was this: The 1975 report of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on Alleged Assassination Plots first made public the top-level American plan to eliminate Lumumba, concluding that CIA chief Allen Dulles had ordered the murder. The...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Oshun Auset ·
But I'm biased... like you aren't I was solely adressing YOUR post which stated that... The reason the U.S. got involved is because they didn't and don't want African to be socialist... They did not 'install' democracy(however that's supposed to work) AFTER ASSASSINATING DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LUMUMBA. The U.S. got invloved to help install pro-western Mobutu, even though he was an oppressive theif. Do you really think that the U.S. cares about the Congolese people and democracy? Give me a...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Dissident ·
Dude, slow down, you're all over the place. You're ranting on like some crazed psychotic off his meds. And chill out with the tough talk and bravado, it doesn't prove anything and it certainly doesn't make you any smarter. Every last one of those dictators you posted have been or are currently supported by the government you're willing to bleed for. I bet you didn't bother to research their funding. These dictators are shills of western governments all of whom are economically or militarily...
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Re: Do You Stand Up for America?

Romulus Burnett ·
No. You don't want my best, fagunwa. This board can't handle my best. Look around you. There's a reason why nearly every member on this board loves to tripple and quadroople team every thread they see me in. There's a lot of bruised egoes on this board already. Now move along before you end up being another disgruntled member sending me hate PMs all through the night like some kind of deranged ex-girlfriend. But lets be real. Why all the evasiveness of the topic at hand? Surely you should be...
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Re: Black Movies

ZAKAR ·
Malcom X Denzel When We Were Kings Muhammad Ali Cry Freedom Denzel Lumumba ? Harlem Knight Richard, Eddie, Redd Foxx,
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Re: Black Movies

msprettygirl ·
You were suppose to name a movie with either lela rochon or vivicia a. fox in it plus another black actor in the film with them (because i posted that before you) .
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Re: Mississippi Gov. Barbour pardons convicted killers

EbonyRose ·
Lawyer: Miss. sisters will push new gov for pardon JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Two sisters released from a Mississippi prison last year on condition that one donate a kidney to the other were saddened and disappointed they weren't among dozens receiving full pardons from the governor, one of the women said Thursday. As one of his last acts as governor, Haley Barbour granted more than 200 reprieves, including to those convicted of murder. Most were full pardons, though some received suspended...
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Re: Sisters get double life for $11 robbery

EbonyRose ·
Sisters Imprisoned for Stealing $11 May Win Release Date: Sunday, October 03, 2010, 10:20 pm By: Denise Stewart, BlackAmericaweb.com A petition seeking clemency for Jamie and Gladys Scott has been sent to Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. Two Mississippi sisters locked up now for more than 15 years for stealing $11 have been interviewed by representatives of that state’s parole board, a step their attorney and supporters hope moves them closer to release. Chokwe Lumumba, lawyer for Jamie and...
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Re: Sisters get double life for $11 robbery

EbonyRose ·
Kidney donation a condition of sisters' release in Mississippi By Phil Gast , CNN December 30, 2010 1:44 a.m. EST (CNN) -- Two Mississippi sisters who have spent 16 years in prison over an $11 armed robbery will be released with an unusual stipulation -- one must donate a kidney to the other. Gov. Haley Barbour, who suspended their sentences, said Wednesday that Gladys Scott, 36, must donate a kidney to her sister, Jamie, 38. Each of the "Scott Sisters" got two life sentences after they were...
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Re: Sisters get double life for $11 robbery

EbonyRose ·
Scotts' Release Condition Raises Ethical Issues Date: Friday, December 31, 2010 By: Holbrook Mohr, Associated Press JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — A South Dakota governor once commuted the sentences of 36 criminals — on the condition they leave his state. In Florida, a convict was told in the 1990s to move to Maryland in order to be set free. Governors granting early releases have sometimes imposed unusual conditions. But as far as anyone can tell, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour may be the first to...
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Re: Sisters get double life for $11 robbery

EbonyRose ·
Guest Commentary: An Urgent Movement for Justice Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 By: Benjamin Todd Jealous, Special to BlackAmericaWeb.com During the past two weeks, in response to successful grassroots campaigns, two governors have released black Americans who had been railroaded by our nation’s criminal justice system. Together, these cases speak to the urgent need for the work the NAACP and our allies are doing to encourage more governors to use their clemency authority as our nation’s...
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Re: Sisters get double life for $11 robbery

EbonyRose ·
Freed sisters too heavy for kidney swap Organ transplant among convicts can't take place until one quits smoking and they lose a combined 160 pounds PENSACOLA, Fla. — A proposed kidney transplant that won two Mississippi sisters their freedom from prison can't take place until one quits smoking and they lose a combined 160 pounds. Jamie and Gladys Scott had served nearly 16 years of their life sentences for an armed robbery when they were released from a sprawling prison in central...
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Re: EXAMPLE OF HOW AFRICA IS THE WORLD'S 'WELFARE CHECK'

DennisKalita ·
Conflict free gold or diamond or drug or chocolate or oil or shoes or hardware sourcing is hard to enforce. Crime is here to stay. Leaders don’t care about people – and people cannot unite. The system is corrupt because humans are greed-blinded animals. I always say, start a project with 3 to 4 people. It could be a for profit business that helps others. It’s hard to get cooperation with 3 to 4 people. That’s project enough. IMHO, of course!
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Re: EXAMPLE OF HOW AFRICA IS THE WORLD'S 'WELFARE CHECK'

sunnubian ·
I whole-heartedly agree. But the article, and so many I've read just like them, lets me know that if Africa could somehow close the continent off from the rest of the world, the entire world, especially all of "white supremacy" and imperialism, would go bankrupt, and Europe/the White race would be takeN back, once again , into the 'dark ages'. I mean, what is the world, what does the world have if you subtract ALL African resources, all African intervention and influence historically, [which...
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Re: The World Still Does Not Call This Genocide

Yemaya ·
Re: The World Still Does Not Call This Genocide
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Re: The World Still Does Not Call This Genocide

Kocolicious ·
Yep! This is correct. However, the world did notice the genocide in Rwanda. But by the time, they recognized what was going on hundreds of thousands were murdered and left on the streets decaying. I think Africa is a place where she has been raped and plundered by so many of the world that by merely reminding those of her still existence brings chills and guilt to those who have used her for wealth and power. It's much like slavery. It's been done and still goes on....but! Nobody, especially...
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Re: Second Night of Protests In Brooklyn After Police Shooting Of 16 Year Old

EbonyRose ·
Okay .... well, this kinda brings it all together!! Mother of teen shot by N.Y. police demands investigation By Ashley Fantz and Dana Ford , CNN updated 10:41 PM EDT, Thu March 14, 2013 (CNN) -- The mother of a Brooklyn teenager shot and killed by police demanded an investigation Thursday, saying he was "slaughtered" and that she wants to know why. Kimani Gray, 16, died over the weekend. His death triggered protests in Flatbush, a community in Brooklyn where distrust of the police runs deep.
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Re: World Bank To Setup $1 Billion Fund To Map Africa’s Mineral Resources

EarthAndSky ·
Originally Posted by Muhammad Cipher: Unity alone doesn't eliminate the complexity of development, governance and service to the people. They (like many of us in the US) have not directly confronted the logic of their own decision making. So from the perspective of the well intentioned and sincere, these decisions "make sense" in the long run given their method of reasoning. History is filled with these stories on and OFF the Continent. I believe it has much to do with fear. They have seen...
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Re: Did Kanye say something wrong?

EarthAndSky ·
Originally Posted by Kocolicious: And until Arabs muslim and nonmuslims and black moslems here in America recognize that WOMEN are NOT chattel or commodities or subhumans, I personally will continue to BLAME Arabs be they muslims or otherwise for the mass destruction of BLACK PEOPLE in Africa. I'm confused by this statement. Most Muslims I know do not view or treat women as chattel, as a commodity, or as subhumans. As stated previously, I've listened to Louis Farrakhan's speeches in which he...
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Re: Did Kanye say something wrong?

Kocolicious ·
Warning: @Earth and Sky....my brotha! I suggest you get some coffee and kick back cuz my response to you in this discussion is very long but necessary. And until Arabs Muslim and Nonmuslims and black moslems here in America recognize that WOMEN are NOT chattel or commodities or subhumans, I personally will continue to BLAME Arabs be they muslims or otherwise for the mass destruction of BLACK PEOPLE in Africa. I'm confused by this statement. Most Muslims I know do not view or treat women as...
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Re: EXAMPLE OF HOW AFRICA IS THE WORLD'S 'WELFARE CHECK'

Kocolicious ·
That's a great title. Africa and Africans are the world's welfare check. They can not and could not LIVE with both. I agree they would be entering the dark ages again. But it is because of Africa....and African people they exist in the horrible way that they do. However, now that we know....this is power. So we should use this piece of knowledge to empower the rest of the black population that thinks we are subservient.....there's nothing SUB about us. In fact, we are above reproach. And...
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Re: EXAMPLE OF HOW AFRICA IS THE WORLD'S 'WELFARE CHECK'

DennisKalita ·
State of mind is powerful and can be limiting. Cooperation makes sense. Humans don’t. A core union of African states could work together to support all member states to take back sovereign control of their resources and renegotiate all deals for the cultural, financial and developmental benefits of each nation state and its citizens. When you own resources like that, you could cut a far far better deal. Not happening. WYSIWYG What I do with that is go back to what I do…. work in a 3 to...
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Re: 2 Officers Are Shot Amid Protests Outside Ferguson Police Station

Fabulous ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Momentum: The cops set that up, the shooter is associated with the cops. Yeah somebody took a shot 220 yards away and looking for the shooter and if they don't find the shooter then it is confirmed that it was a set up to create sympathy for the Ferguson police and to justify their attitude toward the African American public. Look they lied like hell during the grand jury, broke all kinds of rules, they are about to loose their piggy bank...
 
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