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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
courtesy of democratic underground Condoleezza Rice George W. Bush gave Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a very important job last week. According to the Financial Times: President George W. Bush on Wednesday announced that the State Department would lead all US post-conflict reconstruction, a move that supersedes the controversial decision to give that task to the Pentagon in Iraq following the 2003 invasion. ... A former senior official involved in what he called the "chaos" of post-war...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
.....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... .....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc., ...... ......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Blacksanction ·
It is can be either- whatever direction they are given re strategic policy of the government of the day. The part that everyone likes to miss is that the interception of telcom in and out of the US has been going on for decades. Think about it... the US does this with its allies so I listen to your people and I listen to yours and then we trade the information. Agents of the state (whether Fed, State or local police) depending on the circumstances do engage from time to time in unlawful acts...
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Re: Are You Afraid To Die?

James Wesley Chester ·
There is an apprehension. I don't look forward to it, though as I've said on this board, I really thought I would be dead by 50. I have a friend who always says he wants to die quietly in his sleep like his father, and not kicking and screaming like the other three guys who were in the car with him. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
CF - I'm being real patient and kind here. Now listen (read) carefully. There is a big difference between the state killing black children and women exercising their Constitutionally protected right to choice. I hope that even you can understand that.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
And YOU seem to know the talking points of the WHITE SOCIALIST rather well. You see MBM - you have an open ended heart. You and other fundamentalist believe that you have MORAL SUPERIORITY because you stand for PROVIDING MAXIMUM BENEFIT FOR THE MASSES. How touching. You fail miserably when it comes to the concept of EXPECTING SOMETHEM FROM THE POOR. My wife and I COULD have a 3rd, 4th or even 8th baby. We know that by doing so it would impact us financially, time-wise, housing-wise and...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Honest Brother - you are probably a funny brother in person and not half the PRICK that you come off as on this message board.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

HonestBrother ·
I'm funny when I wannabe. But with folk like you WANNABES I'm a PRICK. That's the * most * perceptive thing you've said so far. Congratulations!
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

sunnubian ·
I get so sick and tired of hearing this bs from this republican lawn jockey. He acts as if HIS father is the only Black person or Black man who did ALL these things in a racist society. Millions of Black people in America did the same things he says his father did, accomplished the same things, his father did, served in WWI/WWII/Vietnam/Etc., and did so in the mist of a racist nation with the only difference being other Black people go to work every day, graduate from school (or get a...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: Are You Afraid To Die?

Empty Purnata ·
Very reasonable expression! Actually about the "saftey net" thing, one of my cousins is also an atheist, but he believes in reincarnation or subconsciousness (he believes that people either either reincarnate or that after death, people remain in a dream-like subconscious state). It's kind of unusual for an atheist to believe in afterlife, but oh well. *shrugs*
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
We can't let this important issue die. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...&address=132x2352250
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Black Viking ·
This is really where the rubber meets the road. Not to disrupt the Larry Elder feeding-fest, but I thought he was making some good points right up until he gives the "suggestion" to invest in yourself. Obviously, if your not trying to better yourself than none of this matters. It never hits home. How can you be held down by racism if your not trying to go anywhere? I think the reason that this idiot is a conservative is because he has bought the party line of the...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....now speaking of defending the status quo, more likely this fits our disgraceful elected representatives and/or an inept Black middleclass more so than any Black conservative.... " House Negroes can't back-up a prayer of a chance in any benefit as to AA benefitting a Michael Lofton because I only give credit where it is due ....." ....now AA has done about as much or less for me..... ...as a no good Reverend Henry Lyons , and snake oil saleman Reverend Jesse Jackson , Brentwood Burke,...
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Re: 'No Child Left Behind' - A Thought

MBM ·
First who is Kendred Meeks. Funny that there are NO citations for that person in all of Google. Second, most schools are built with a combination of local, state, and federal funding hence your assumption that building schools somehow reduces per student funding does not necessarily apply. Third, even if per student funding decreased, lowering the teacher/student ratio in some instances might overcome the reduced funding. This is particularly the case when it is part of a planned, strategic...
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely Empty Purnata, ricardomath, and Kevin41 are full of it..... ..now this is punishment... punishment for wrong and foolish actions truly deserved. ..now, I choose not to go this direction, and slim chance exists, where I will be punished for anything that I truly did....... .....There is nothing that a Kevin41 can do that will ruin me, punish me, ruin my good reputation, etc., etc. ..haven't sustained any losses, be it financial, or otherwise, thus what you have classed as...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
See what I mean everyone? This guy is trying to pull on emotional heartstrings in others that are not even there. You all are too preoccupied with your own lives to let what anyone say in a message board have a bearing on you and negatively affect your mentality. Now I specifically outlined the relative comparisons and all I get is a hateful response that is supposed to elicit anger from me. Well, that is not going to happen. The other tactic Lofton employs, which someone else (EP, I think)...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Nah Isome...those days of giving little mikey attention have fizzled down to nothing......what the hell...i made a decent effort up front to communicate so to hell with it......i read some of the old posts Ricardo chronicled and I was really too damn diplomatic in the first place...just takes a minute to figure it out when you trying to give a fool the benefit of the doubt. Remember when I said so in the thread about New Years resolutions? Well as you can see today is the 7th.....once I get...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Yssys (Guest) ·
I think that this is such a relevant and interesting topic, I decided to bump it back up to the top of the discussion board. When I was in high school, I was fortunate enough to go to a presidential library and browse through the declassified files of that administration. I was incensed to discover that long before WWII so-called American citizens were being spied on and massive amounts of information was being documented an stored on non-violent organizations. Organizations such as the...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Empty Purnata ·
Alright, here's the reality of the land: America was founded on Englightenment Principles (the ideas in our Constitution are borrowed from the French Constitution and inspired by Englightenment Age philosophy on liberty, freedom and justice). There is a radical Seperation of Church and State. Church cannot regulate religious beliefs as laws, and the State cannot regulate religious beliefs. This is mutally beneficial, it provides a safe, bias-free (in theory) system that does not make...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns. You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America rather than spending it on your fellow Americans. There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Here we go again folks. KEVIN - Can you tell me WHO ON THIS BOARD has the qualifications to "TEACH YOU SCHIT"? I know that you are intellectually SUPERIOR to most of us. The fact that you have been bestowed a the certification of "doctorate" by the American education which attempts to certify the KNOWLEDGE and LEARNING that a person acquires. We all know that a Black man, having not finished high school and never gone to college - COULD GO TO THE LIBRARY FOR YEARS AND YEARS (as I see some...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Nmaginate ·
What's so hard about you keeping your comments within THE CONTEXT? Why are you running across the globe looking, praying for something, someone to save your SORRY ASS?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Kevin: Let me give you some CONTEXT to your statements above. Inevitably there will be some over the top incident that a Black person or group of Blacks commit. Rather than condemn THIS PARTICULAR EVENT and clearly articulate how THIS EVENT HAS VIOLATED EVERYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE....... You (and my enemy Isome) will IMMEDIATELY do a web search and find and occassion in which WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT THE OUTRAGE HAS NOT FOLLOWED. So Kevin - does this benefit the Black victim...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Sweetwuzzy ·
African Americans are out-performing Asian americans??? We outperform them in politics, and representation across the board, but Asian Americans make more income than any other group including white americans. And they do excellent when it comes to education.
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
So they get good grades and get good jobs. Where is the impact of their achievement on American society? Again, I have no interest in denigrating the Asian community. CF makes the connection between culture and achievement. He constantly praises their culture and assassinates ours. I simply ask the question - if their culture is so wonderful and if culture and achievement are connected, then where is the impact in America of that superior culture? CF likes their culture, I believe, precisely...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
EP, Yes, John Locke and the idea of universal rights is very European, though they did not spring full-grown from the head of the French Revolution, especially that part of it that so quickly degenerated into the Reign of Terror and was well criticized by such as Edmund Burke, a supporter of much of the American philosophy. But this couldn't have arisen without the ground of the Christian faith. It's no wonder that the Magna Carta was forced on King John in England. It was a first step...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Johnny Destiny ·
Quote: Why would a soul choose to leave Heaven and come to Earth? Not only is Earth, no doubt, a rather sordid place compared to Paradise, they can also screw up and get sent to hell for eternity. ________________________________________________ First MBM, the soul cannot choose to do anything whether it want to or no. This is so because the human soul is the infinite State, and the infinite State is our entire universe. Since this is now admitted as true by the learned, how can a soul...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
Is anyone following the confirmation hearings? I was reading the GOP list of witnesses for Alito when I came upon this: I find it interesting that Kirsanow is a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights AND a partner in a law firm whose labor/employment law section [where he practiced] is widely known for its union-busting and aggressive, employee-hostile tactics.Kirsanow will be in the 5th panel and is a "discrimination is a thing of the past" civil rights
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Re: Million Dollar Baby

FireFly ·
I think there was another discussion thread about this film way back on this board. I really like Hilary Swank as an actor so i will see anything that she is in. I think the boxing chick was Jamaican, but anyhoo... I agree. More black hats vs white hats, ho-humm. Seems even Clint couldn't quite make the break from Hollywood stereotypical scriptwriting in places. A great film with Hilary Swank is INSOMNIA, with Robin Williams as Mr Evil himself. Excellent acting, excellent story, set in Alaska.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Bush, 'No Child Left Behind', and National Testing

Kweli4Real ·
My sister is a 20 elementary/primary school teacher. She has 2 Master's degrees and is in a PHD program. She tells me that while she supports accountability in general and testing in specific, her two complaints about NCLB testing is that 1) schools are teaching to the test, when they are not testing FROM the actual test. This is "teaching" child what to think not how to think. 2) schools' entire curricula and resources are test directed, very little resources are being spent on music, Phys...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
In following the confirmation hearings, I found one [actually several] of Alito's comments, "Curious." He was asked about something that he wrote arguing that the constitution is silent on the "right to privacy." [And, it is] The question [and answer] was framed in terms of the "right to privacy" announced in the Rowe decision. Alito was asked, with respect to his earlier comments, how he would approach the "right to privacy" question, if raised. Alito's response was that he would " approach...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
Yes, of course: criticize without dealing with the evidence, state an opinion as if it were obvious truth, and never, never answer a factual argument.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
The point is that I could sit here and argue with you forever. But your mind is made up and no amount of logic and evidence is going to change your mind. I don't enjoy arguing just for the hell of it. My time is rather limited. So why bother? I'm not sure that anything good comes of it. I'm not sure if anyone on the site gets much from looking at the two of us go back and forth hogging a thread. Why bother? And I did present evidence for my statement. Philemon. And you didn't dispute what I...
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Re: Now Speaking of an Endless Loop Cycle of Poverty, Heavy Dependence on Social Welfare

Michael ·
"Former Aide's Guilty Plea Implicates Congressman Brett M. Pfeffer details conspiracy and bribery claims against Democrat William J. Jefferson. By Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writer January 12, 2006 Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.) sought bribes, jobs for his children and other favors for providing political support to a company setting up Internet service in Nigeria, according to a former aide's guilty plea, entered Wednesday in federal court in Alexandria, Va. In an alleged conspiracy,...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
...the legacy of AA, Social Welfare, our disgraceful elected representatives, and/or that no good Black middleclass who praise them. .....and pat yourself on the back if you've distanced yourself from that inept, sleazy, worthless no good Black middleclass..... ********************************** "Former Aide's Guilty Plea Implicates Congressman Brett M. Pfeffer details conspiracy and bribery claims against Democrat William J. Jefferson. By Ralph Vartabedian Times Staff Writer January 12,...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

James Wesley Chester ·
There is excellent differentiation going here. The next question of course is: Is a racist a practitioner of racism? The definition that has generally been accepted on the board is that racism is prejudice, or discrimination with the power to make it true. Can that be accompanying definition of a racist? I don't consider myself a racist, nor ever having been a racist. Yet, I do discriminate. On many bases, including race and ethnicity. Not color. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Interesting. The reason why I posted the article about the realities of life in Pakistan after the earthquake and in Indoneisa after the tsunami is that these people don't have a GOVERNMENT who is planning on injecting BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars into their areas in order to make their people whole and have them to return to a state that closely approximates the national STANDARD OF LIVING. For a country that gets hated upon so much by folks the USA sure knows how to "break a Nigga off...
 
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