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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
Constructive Feedback, I think you wrote to the wrong person. You took my quote, when I think you were trying to answer Nmaginate's post. And I am afraid I agree with you somewhat. Who cares if white children are pulled out of black schools !!!
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am not sure why I waste my time. I said NOTHING about getting reparations from Bush. Several weeks ago a frat brother of mine told me that Bush wasted billions in Iraq that he could have given to Black people as reparations. I asked him why is he so vocal about what "his enemy" has failed to do with his deficit spending to fund a war but he is so silent about what his friend has failed to do to pay the debt he owes to Blacks all the while having a SURPLUS. The end result for Black people...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
I don't think either JWC or SweetWuzzy quite got Nmag's clear point. With all the anti-school desegregation machinations where Whites tried to get government funding for their private schools... I'm like trying to see how come that RACIST history is ignored or forgotten. To answer Sweet... The intention is for Whites to obtain government subsidies for their private school perogatives. The problem and even the reason for concern over integration is how it is an American Social/Political Fact...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Empty Purnata ·
Now there is no debating that. Anyone who tries to deny the fact that "school vouchers" have a racist past, and most likely a racist modern-day intent, have their heads buried in the ground. Of course, many White racists will deny it to the end, and their Black-faced, chicken-eating, greasy-grinnin', coon-shuffling lackies will follow them to the ends of the Earth and beyond.
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
The competition argument doesn't fly. It's bogus from top to bottom, unless schools are going to be changed to for-profit entities, "competition" does nothing. If the change is what's being suggested however, then the proponents of "competition" have not considered the logical chain of events, which includes refusing admittance to the "least among us", in order to maintain or boost student performance and increase profits. ...public school districts in Los Angeles, Baltimore, Dallas,...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! PUSSY!!! Over << here >> PUSSY!!! Man, I feel like the Gap Band singing, "You Can't Keep Runnin'"... But your PUNK ASS is full of sprints. Why is it that RHETORIC is the only and best tool in your busted ass tool box, CON-Feed? Never the one to engage. So you just BULLSHIT! Now, let's have it. What is the source of your Flailing, Grasping ISSUES? You obviously will never understand or submit to comprehending ENLISH!!! What's up with this connection you're trying to...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! CON-Feed... It's ENGLISH time: King "reasoning" has become King "rhetoric" as hostile forces use King's name, likeness, intellect and legacy to shift the social construct toward race neutrality and away from social justice. That's something like that thing I referred to... you know, The Main Idea.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy: After reading Sowell's article, I clicked on his link to the Rose and Milton Friedman website. What is everyones position on vochers? Why are you for or against it ? Please do not resort to petty attacks such as "sell out," "Kneegrow," or Uncle tom !!" I really want to know how everyone feels about this?? I do not know if you saw this, but John Stossel did a show called "Dumb in america." I was a little annoyed how the show did not present both sides...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: Expanding on MBMs Inquiry ...

Frenchy ·
Malcolm X (for purely social reasons)
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Nmaginate ·
ISOME, I could swear that the idea of "minority set-asides" were about opportunity and the ability to create jobs and capital via contracts for Black businesses. I could swear Jesse Jackson's Wall-Street Iniative (think of it what you want) was/is about getting access to capital. And he's a proponent of AA. So, it's obvious (as if I need to say this even while be facetious) how I missed something. And Armstrong too. I'd sure like to know what vehicle is going to "give access to capital" and...
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Isome ·
Maybe there are some GIVING seeds that we can pick up on the ground underneath THEIR trees... if we can sneak onto the property that is! It's only a considered a bad government program when resources like ACCESS, CAPITAL, and OPPORTUNITY are given (even in dribs and drabs) to poor individuals. When given to businesses, or the wealthy & connected, it's always a good thing.
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Pace Tua ·
Ummm, the messenger? Ahh... racism? Hypocrisy? Economic, political, and social inequality? Double standards? Brutality, humiliation, indignation and righteous anger? Gosh, there must be a whole bunch of reasons.
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
I think its wonderful that you've signed up for the Junior Achievement program. Rather than simply complaining about the problems experienced by some young people, you are contributing time and effort towards solving them. However, just make certain that you do not forget to inlcude some positive affirmations about young people in your program of indoctrinationin as well. I think the children will be a lot receptive to your ideas of improvement if you would, at times, acknowledge something...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Nobody's saying you have to date an ugly or ignorant or disrepectful blue collar brother just because he's a brother . Likewise, a brother shouldn't feel compelled to date an unattractive (to him) sister just because of her education, wealth or career . What we are saying is that a person (man or woman) not having a "professional" job, does not make them less qualified to be a good mate. A college degree is not THE gold standard for intelligence. Ultimately, I think you have to go where your...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Frenchy - There were three posts after qty226's response before yours. Which one touted a double standard? Here's mine again: Where's the double standard? There was no scolding. If you set looks aside, how do you know that a blue collar or non-degreed person can't be a good mate for you? Note there have been very few discussions about people's physical preferences, outside of Rowe. We are talking about personality traits. If you know that common ratio of women to men is 10 to 1 on college...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I've been monitoring this debate, and apparently, both of you are trying to convey a similar message: Be more realistic. Black women: you can't have the Denzel look-alike with a six figure salary. And Black men: You can't have the tiny-figured Halle Berry look-alike who waits on you hand and foot. So I have a question for readers. Do you all think this culture's obsession with mega super stars has interferred with everyday people's interest in the opposite sex? Perhaps our standards are not...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Empty Purnata ·
There are many conflicted accounts of what happened. Where are the families of these people who supposedly "died"? Where is the fund for them? Why did the goverment whisk off the debris so fast and not allow any inspection? Why do so many witnesses claim to have seen/heard a missle and a fighter jet? Why didn't Flight 77 leave the radar? Most of all: WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE BODIES AND WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PLANE? Even the 9-11 Council admitted there is no proof a plane or any passengers were...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. THE CONCEPT OF DEFINING WHO CAN MARRY EACH OTHER BASED ON GENDER IS "OPPRESSION"? I want to marry 2 woman AND a man. All 4 of us want to live in peace and they all want to make use of my jobs healthcare coverage for married partners. USING YOUR BASIS - why should the 4 of us continue to be OPPRESSED? Where did the concept of 2 people IN A MARRIAGE come from? The real problem that You all have is that you are unable to cast anything that looks like JUDGEMENT to...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
You finally got something straight. Yes, a benefit that is afforded one group of people to the exclusion of another based on race, religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual-orientation, or disability is illegal discimination, and therefore oppression. BTW, it's also unconstitutional. Healthcare coverage has nothing to do with anything. Insurance companies set their own policies. No one has a constitutional right to healthcare. They should, but they don't. What does this mean? You make it sound as...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Frenchy ·
Please do actually read the information provided. It's not just some "stuff" on the ground. It is very clearly plane parts (seats, wheels, parts of the bulkhead, etc) in some cases with the AA paint pattern still visible. Lord Have Mercy. You're one of those who will never believe no matter who have right in front of your won eyes. Yes, everything right down to the EYEWITNESS accounts and pictures from numerous news agencies could be completely manufactured. So could everything you see all...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Nmaginate ·
First, you have to appreciate the probolems that the mass attendance of HBCU's has, the way you seem to suggest it. It's something that's not exactly feasible, financially or geographically, no matter how much I support the idea. So, what are the incentives to make this happen and to get more African-Americans to go to already struggling HBCU's? Me, I'm in favor of a permanent, "unified" Black Congress of sorts that purposely sets out to house the whole spectrum of Black ideas, philosophies...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
And with that said, instead of being "Democrats" or "Republicans" or "Independents" or "Libertarians", I think we should create our own parties that address OUR (the Black Community's) particular needs. None of these other parties arddress our needs, and we need to stop giving them our support. Now we can do fusion voting (belonging to these other parties, but support the main parties if need-be), but I think we need to have less membership within them en masse. I'm all for the...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

sunnubian ·
_____________________________________________ ______________________________________________ I couldn't agree more, but then that brings us back to that 'unity' thing, wherein the whole of African America (preferable under the umbrella of your African American Congress of sorts) has to come together (unity) to vote, build political bases, raise the funds that it would take to challange the present laws, discriminate sentencing laws, abuses of power, wrongful convictions, unconstitutional...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Huey ·
I agree with you that Pam is hotter than Gina...at least physically hotter. The problem is that Pam is dark-skinned (not that it's anything wrong with it), Gina is lighter-skinned, and that when you usually have TWO good-looking black women together (of different complexions), they have to be competitive to a point. Also, the darker-skinned character Pam is unfortunately casted as a "sapphire", a shrewish selfish, inconsiderate black female character. Besides, knowing about the skin color...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Honest & AG - The three of us have said the same thing to the ladies. No one is denying fantasy. But the reality is that everyone can't be a high social status, high income, buff, male idol. Please substitute the female analogues for those of you that still haven't realized I'm speaking about men & women. This means, somebody has to date & marry the "every Jane/Joes". Men have an easier time, IMO, accepting this fact. I'm glad my mom wasn't such an elitest. Otherwise, I might not...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
And the 3 of you are completely missing the point, as has been pointed out to all of you repeatedly by several different people, so I don't know what exactly you're patting yourselves on the back for. Of course not! Otherwise the high social status, high income, buff male idol wouldn't be so valuable!! The reality is that women should be able to voice wanting one of these men without you and the rest of society coming in to talk us out of it... the same way that you can want a high social...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Remember this???: Frenchy, you don't read your own damned posts. OK. Now're you're putting college professors and artists on the same level as ex-cons. I won't have this discussion with you anymore because I see how * twisted * you are upstairs and I might have to start throwing around a word that rhymes with "itch". You win. I do not want to discuss this anymore.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
Man, you have GOT to be kidding me. The world lets you (you meaning men in general) WANT that type of woman without reprocussions. I didn't say that's what you actually GET! OK. Now're you're putting college professors and artists on the same level as ex-cons.[/quote] YOU are the one who has been advocating that women "broaden" their idea of what the cream of the crop is and that we not go specifically for the man who makes the money or has the education. YOU are the one who took offense to...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
You Sistas want to be The Mothers of Civilization? Well it takes more than Denzels and Doctors to have civilization. It takes: black artists Sculptors Writers Painters CONSTRUCTION WORKERS Engineers Accountants Scholars Dentists Community Activists Albert Einsteins college professors JANITORS SOCIAL WORKERS teachers/administrators in junior colleges Teachers in elementary and secondary education people in literature and the arts Etc. Etc. to have a civilization. I.e., PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

Kweli4Real ·
When I heard this story this morning, I was struck by a thought ... Hamas is the Palistinian equivalent to the Black Panther Party of the late 60's'early 70's. Just as the Panther Party was protrayed by the media as a radical violent organization, the truth has it that Hamas' primary function is the provision of food, shelter and social services to Palistinian people without regard to whether the beneficiaries support their anti-zionist agenda. Sure, Hamas has members that blow stuff up; but...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
Or we can actually be honest and get off the ideological soapboxes. How about that? ************************************************************************** ************************************************************************** Compare & Contrast: "We can either march forward under the illusion that a discipline gap exists because teachers are a bunch of racists ..." "What remains unclear is how people who are concerned with fairness and equality would seek to institutionalize the...
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Lord please help this Kneegrow. First - I support the Palestinean's RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION. Hamas, just like the Sunni's in Iraq have been told to engage in the poltical process rather than violent actions to get their way. Some people played this election victory as a "loss" for the USA and Israel. This couldn't be further from the truth. Second - the media did a report on a Hamas lady who was elected though she had no previous political experience. She sent 3 of her 5 sons to their...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Nmaginate ·
I'll repeat it one more time, CON-Feed, then I'll ask for your response: ************************************************************************** Investigations of behavior, race, and discipline have yet to provide evidence that African American students misbehave at a significantly higher rate. Studies have failed to find racial disparities in misbehavior sufficient to account for the typically wide racial differences in school punishment.
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

Empty Purnata ·
Don't you know? Didn't you get the memo? It's only DEMOCRACY if Republicans or right-wing people who support American corporate/social interest are elected. If anyone else is elected, it's Liberal/Socialist/Communist/Progressive Tyranny or Pro-Terrorism. Duh, everyone knows that. Only Republicans and right-wingers know what's best for people.
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Re: CF ... Be a dear and please explain ...

Nmaginate ·
(*whisper*__________ BULLSHIT!!! __________ *whisper*) Dude, new material. That shit is so worn out. There you go PROJECTING again. Every challenge to the RHETORIC and paper-thin "principles" you espouse results in your PUNKING OUT!! Whether you're used to be challenged or not is not the issue. One thing is for sure, you never met the challenge. You prefer to RUN, wiggle, WEASEL, obfuscate, DIVE INTO SOME DIVERSIONARY Rat Hole... anything but actually met the challenges to your weak ass,...
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Re: Asking too much?

Rowe ·
Why Are We Still Equating Virginity With Purity??? However, if she ever does decide to activate her sex life, I say, do not subsequently burden yourself down with resentment and regrets. Being a virgin (or not a virgin) does not define who you are as a person. That is why I feel sorry for the woman who feels as if she has somehow lost her very essence after having sex because her self-worth and self-esteem is intimately tied to her virginity. This woman would benefit from knowing that women...
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Re: PBS: African American Lives

Faheem ·
PBS TO OFFER SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH February 1 – February 28, 2006 Alexandria, VA - January 25, 2006 - From history to culture to drama to independent film, PBS features year-round programming both created by and about African Americans. In honor of Black History Month, PBS will broadcast a variety of new and encore presentations that celebrate the rich history of African Americans. The centerpiece for this month of special programs is a four-hour series by Henry Louis...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Frenchy ·
Well, we're clearly much worse off than we were before. Unemployment is up. Wages don't cover the same standard of living for most people anymore, but you're putting in longer hours at the office/on the field. Social programs are being cut. Public broadcasting is actually being threatened if they don't air programs favorable to the administration. Protests and outrage are useless as we have officials who pay no attention to that and follow their own agenda, so people have become apathetic.
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Speak for yourself. "Worse off before" what? In the past 5 years I have had 2 children, gotten a new job with a 5 figure raise, paid off the majority of my debt and gotten more spiritually focused. Maybe rather than looking to what the GOD-verment can distribute to you it is time to look for another more effective source for grace? The United States might be facing more challenges as other powers around the world rise up from the previos period of colonialism and players in the big battle...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Kevin41 ·
CF.....don't get too comfortable....IT can be here today and gone tomorrow..jobs that used to pay allot can be devalued with a new development.....trust me...I was an engineer in the middle of ray-guns bullshit where the feds cut all social programs and spent the money on defense...while I was working there...i knew many people who dropped out of college because of cuts....should I always look to myself as an example of how things are going....hell i'm teaching, consulting and have a full...
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Re: Copying one of the white man hopes end in failure in Africa

Dusty Elbow ·
From Monsters and Critics.com Africa News Mali farmers don`t want GM crops By UPI Jan 31, 2006, 19:00 GMT SIKASSO, Mali (UPI) -- Mali farmers say they don`t want trials of genetically modified crops to begin in their nation -- the fourth poorest country in the world. The decision came following the first African \'farmers` jury\' to debate the issue, The Independent reported Tuesday. During the five-day meeting arguments for and against GM crop technology were presented. The meeting was held...
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Re: I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

MBM ·
Frenchy - I'm really sorry the point of the thread was lost on you. It has NOTHING to do with "southerners" or any other stereotype that you may be sensitive to. It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that here in America we are sold a bill of goods by our government and by the wealthy. To make a very long story short, we are told that we are "free", but in what way are we so? This is particularly the case for people who are poor and working class - who, basically, all they can do is struggle...
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