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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

HonestBrother ·
Maybe Constructive Feedback knows this guy?
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: AN UNEVEN HAND: THE DISCIPLINE GAP IN SEATTLE SCHOOLS

Nmaginate ·
In the other thread, you referenced a White Blog with a bunch of BS written about the study. Though this was an attempt to be intelligent as opposed to just speaking in the talking point Language of Right vs. Left STUPIDITY, the following quote from one of the respondants shows exactly how bankrupt their objections are: Somehow, it didn't occur to our friend that, by the same consideration/comparison token, there is no way to make a case against the racial discrimination claim (as he and his...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

Rowe ·
The following passages are excerpts taken from author Rosemary Radford Ruether's, Sexism and Godtalk: Toward A Feminist Theology . Woman, Body, and Nature: Sexism and the Theology of Creation 1) "The establishment of this relationship between male and female spheres depends not only on males as definers of culture but also on the burdening of women with most of the tedious, day-to-day tasks of economic production. Males become a leisure class with relatively little to do but decorate...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Rowe ·
No, because Black children are not White or Asian children. Black children are just as academically capable, smart, and competent as other children , but because they are Black, they are often times treated differently than other children, particularly in academic environments. Thus, whatever "academic handicaps" that Black students develop as result of past and present mistreatment is not "self-inflicted," but inflicted upon them by society. And this is what "racial identity education"...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Empty Purnata ·
LOL, Isome, you know this has been going on ever since slavery. Remember the old House Kneegrow who would put the fire out if the Massa's house caught on fire? "We sick, bohs!" Thomas Sowell is nothing more than a William F. Buckley-type dressed up in a Black man's body. He's nothing more than a tool for White Conservative Status-Quo defenders to go: "Hey look! This Nigra agrees with us! He sees the light in our reasoning. Why can't the rest of you Nigras be the same way? Why can't you...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Nmaginate ·
I had a co-worker, a pretty "squared-away" guy... well, a guy that's pretty much a model employee come at me in much the same way your co-worker did. I mean, here it was and otherwise smart and "good guy" coming at me saying some patently dumb shit about "[Black] people listen to leaders like Jesse Jackson... <*bullshit*><*bullshit*><*bullshit*>" when [1] He and I had never had a conversation about Jesse and [2] He and I had never had a conversation about politics per se,...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Yemaya ·
After he has admitted spying on American citizens and admitted that the war in Iraq was based on faulty intelligence, you would think that someone other than the press would be talking about impeaching him. The majority party of the senate and congress for the last 3 administrations has been the Republican party. Now they have seized majority power in all branches of the government. Including the "talking point" lackeys and those of self-righteous indignation that often show up on this and...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MBM ·
Honestly, and with all due respect, I'm not sure I understand why we're debating these semantic distinctions. Whether a racist is one with power, or merely a bigot, is not really meaningful to me. At the root, is the exact same sore - festering inside someone. If that sore exists - then it merely awaits an opportunity to infect others. I could certainly create a belief system that says that racism is one who makes judgments based upon race and that discrimination is the impact of one's...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

James Wesley Chester ·
Honestly, and with all due respect, I'm not sure I understand why we're debating these semantic distinctions. Whether a racist is one with power, or merely a bigot, is not really meaningful to me. At the root, is the exact same sore - festering inside someone. If that sore exists - then it merely awaits an opportunity to infect others. I could certainly create a belief system that says that racism is one who makes judgments based upon race and that discrimination is the impact of one's...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Are you saying that Dr. Sowell said otherwise (with respect to the first phrase of your response)? Who are these people who are treating Black kids differently than these "OTHER CHILDREN"? As our public school increase their REsegregation they are more likely to sit next to other Black kids and increasingly be taught by Black teachers. I can speak from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE about how more than 20 years ago when I was in high school I had the dual roll of being in the "Rapid Track" in my high...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
I agree. Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am not sure why I waste my time. I said NOTHING about getting reparations from Bush. Several weeks ago a frat brother of mine told me that Bush wasted billions in Iraq that he could have given to Black people as reparations. I asked him why is he so vocal about what "his enemy" has failed to do with his deficit spending to fund a war but he is so silent about what his friend has failed to do to pay the debt he owes to Blacks all the while having a SURPLUS. The end result for Black people...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Nmaginate ·
Intuitively, if not consciously, each and every Denier/Minimizer knows. For White Deniers/Minimizers, they know they benefit from continued racism/WHITE SUPREMACY. The way some act, they are addicted to, if not dependent on the idea. The very notion itself, the very idea of White Denial is racist in and of itself. It is an attempt to install WHITE SUPREMACY. Not only are Black people lazy, in their eyes, but Black people, for some reason, seem to want to believe Their Lying Eyes over what...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

FireFly ·
First off, I think it's important for everyone to assess and reassess their goals frequently. Because life, and our lives don't remain static. So it is a great question to ask of ourselves - what is our version of the American (or Australian) dream? Wanting a house (territory), a car (mobility), and income (security) is fine, however the perception and reality of the so-called American Dream depend entirely on the person dreaming the dream. OK call me a wet blanket but... A lot of people...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Empty Purnata ·
But, I have a few theories on who and what CON-Feed is (and he's not the only one here like himself, Michael Lofton doesn't count, he's a Spambot): 1) A CONSERVATIVE WHITE GUY WHO VIEWS BLACK PEOPLE AS BEING "BENEATH HIM" COMING HERE TO SPAM THE SITE WITH TRIPE (WHILE PRETENDING TO BE BLACK) THINKING HE CAN GET US TO BREAK DOWN AND ACT ALL "NIGGERISH" SO HE CAN GET A GOOD LAUGH. 2) An extremely sheltered Black man who grew up in a middle-class/rich home by Black Middleclass parents who told...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Sweetwuzzy ·
Yup. All the time. Racism is such a dirty word, and unlike the past, it is taboo to be openly racist, so racist must pretend that they are not racist and that racism does not exist.
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??---sweetwuzzy You're right. It doesn't. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
As nicely as I can say it....... STFU, "WHITE BOY!!" When you say things like this: Point out the fact that they are making use of some of the very same tactics that are now illegal after years of their protests and you are likely to be attacked...certainly verbally attacked, maybe physically attacked. YOU MIGHT BE A WHITE BOY ! Seriously though, take that BS right up off my thread. You know, that WHITE BOY BS!! You know, like this WHITE BOY BS: So, CF? Any other Stormfront-like opinions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Yahoo!! CON-Feed... It's ENGLISH time: King "reasoning" has become King "rhetoric" as hostile forces use King's name, likeness, intellect and legacy to shift the social construct toward race neutrality and away from social justice. That's something like that thing I referred to... you know, The Main Idea.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Kevin41 ·
CF...you can talk about my momma all you like...because my parents were not the racially afflicted coons like yours who raised you with those antebellum views where colored folk like them knew their place..plus I know you would never have the balls to say schit in my face...and even though what a coonin azz lackey says never bothers me......i'd stomp your azz beyond recognition just because of your level of bitch azz imposition......you are a weak azz dick sucking failure as a black man, you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Thanks for the response and the quote - on the 'surface' the concept of being 'colourblind' can be taken as something positive (by me at least), as seeing beyond race and colour - not pre-judging or discriminating between people - but with closer scruntiny is, agreeably, more along the lines of.... "...that there can be injustice in treating people the same when in relevant respects they are different, just as much as there can be in treating them differently when in relevant respects they...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
Uhhhh, just because I think I'll post this here! Released: January 15, 2006 Bush job approval dips again to 39% New Zogby Survey shows Iraq a Partisan War In the face of rising gas prices, partisan sniping over Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, and a resumption of insurgent violence in Iraq, President Bush's job approval rating has slipped into a post-holiday funk, again dipping below 40%, a new telephone poll by Zogby International shows. His approval rating almost mirrors the percentage...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
My question is do the general public white Americans take the opportunity to ask questions about race of any kind? This may not be 'dialog' but it's a way to begin to find out how other people think. To ask what's it like to be black is a valid question for someone who isn't. It's an attempt to understand another viewpoint. It's a start... not a whole conversation. I do understand the above. I see there being two sides to the process. Clarifying one's own beliefs certainly. And having the...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: Expanding on MBMs Inquiry ...

kresge ·
MLK, Jr. On Monday, I listened again to his sermon in 1967 at the Riverside Church in NY when he comes out against the war in Vietnam. It is rhetorically, philosophically, and theologically masterful.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Nmaginate ·
COP OUT!! And your typical Race To The RAT HOLE! I guess you have that thing you call "CONDITIONED HOPELESSNESS." You only have power/influence that only goes so far. You can't do any more than that. You're hopeless. The situation you're up against is hopeless. I mean, you rant, rave and rail against stuff? That you can't control? I thought you had a theory about that. You know, that you don't worry about things and people you have no control over. CON-Feed. It's NOW time for the STOP THE...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Texas Star ·
Nmaginate... I really like you, and your thoughts. Even with all your mean remarks. Maybe I wrote this all wrong. I don't even understand some of these responses. I actually just wanted to chat with you, and get to know more about you. All Im trying to do is bring blacks TOGETHER. MY ISSUE IS, I want to get to know you guys more. I don't have a dad, so maybe when look at the pics of these smart old men who seem to care about something, I just wish I could be closer or on your level. The...
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Re: SISTA'S PLEASE READ:

Texas Star ·
Check out what YOUR FAVORITE products do to you: http://www.ewg.org/reports/skindeep2/index.php Additional Reading: http://www.miasb.com/skin_commercial.htm (I don't personally know who the Sista is who put the site together, but she is doing a good job) THERE IS A WAR AGAINST YOUR WOMB!!! BELIEVE IT! ; )
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
So no matter what........black men dont want a 200lb sista, that has her own in life................but a sista should want a janitor, custodian or fast food manager? Am i reading this right?? Gimmie a damn break!! Like i mentioned before.......i live in Tampa, and when i go out, i never look 'at' black men.
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
You know.....i expected a man to throw another 'race' of women in this equation. It seems that a lot of brothas, still want to hold this over our heads. Think again.......please notice that sistas are complaining less about these issues, we are finally getting the point.....and for the most part, are moving on. (well at least i am) Also, i find it funny, that you commented on the fact of "blue collar workers", but you said nothing about how brothers, turn away decent sistas because of their...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Nobody's saying you have to date an ugly or ignorant or disrepectful blue collar brother just because he's a brother . Likewise, a brother shouldn't feel compelled to date an unattractive (to him) sister just because of her education, wealth or career . What we are saying is that a person (man or woman) not having a "professional" job, does not make them less qualified to be a good mate. A college degree is not THE gold standard for intelligence. Ultimately, I think you have to go where your...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love the black woman's voice...No other race of women speak with such honey in their voices whether they're bougie proper or into mad ghetto slang - and I REALLY love it when they can switch from one to the other and back - like my mom...Maybe it goes back to my mother reading to me when I was a kid - one of my earliest memories...And you can hear it when they sing.... In my collection of soul records I heavily favor female singers.... The Divine Gladys Knight... hmmmmm.... Aretha...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
And I'm also saying that being blue collar doesn't necesarily tell you about what's inside that person or what they're capable of. Yes I was a janitor once. But I was bright and curious and read a lot even then. I have a Ph.D. now. And if I dated outside my race it was in part because I had such a hard time finding a sister before I had a Ph.D. Lighten up. Open up your eyes...Realize... Isn't that a song?
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