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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Harmachis vs. Sphinx

Dusty Elbow ·
No wonder Ayesu [Jesus] went to Egypt to hide and study for his young life than came back to Israel speaking in parables of the 'kingdom of God'. Parables are symbolism. Egypt is full of 'godly' parables. Just giving an opinion which means there is no truth behing my words. Thanks.
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

Kweli4Real ·
When I heard this story this morning, I was struck by a thought ... Hamas is the Palistinian equivalent to the Black Panther Party of the late 60's'early 70's. Just as the Panther Party was protrayed by the media as a radical violent organization, the truth has it that Hamas' primary function is the provision of food, shelter and social services to Palistinian people without regard to whether the beneficiaries support their anti-zionist agenda. Sure, Hamas has members that blow stuff up; but...
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

James Wesley Chester ·
Sure, Hamas has members that blow stuff up; but Israel promotes bull-dozing housing with people in it. And, I may be mistaken here, but I don't recall a single incident in the 2000's where Hamas has been tied as an organization to a terrorist act.---K4R Sharon and Arafat were patriots to their respective causes. Fatah and Hamas are organizations with the same goal. Hamas wasn't willing to talk when it was out of power. Now we shall see in fairly short order where their game is. I am guessing...
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Re: Hamas shakes up Mideast politics

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Lord please help this Kneegrow. First - I support the Palestinean's RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION. Hamas, just like the Sunni's in Iraq have been told to engage in the poltical process rather than violent actions to get their way. Some people played this election victory as a "loss" for the USA and Israel. This couldn't be further from the truth. Second - the media did a report on a Hamas lady who was elected though she had no previous political experience. She sent 3 of her 5 sons to their...
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Re: Zionism

UppityNegress ·
No, but then again I'm an atheist and I view the Bible (Old Testament and New Testament) as the folklore and rhetoric of Bronze Age tribesmen in the Middle East. While I think it's a valuable piece of literature, I don't hold it in any higher esteem or moral value than I do the Vedas or the Scandinavian sagas. No! Of course, my answer to this would be no, but then my answer for this question wouldn't matter b/c I don't accept the premise that the Jewish/Christian god exists. Even working on...
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Re: Zionism

Black Viking ·
Absolutely not! It doesn't matter if God gave it to them or not .That is silly justification anyway. Hasn't anyone figured out yet that inserting religious dogma into international relations equals a breakdown in diplomacy? The fact is they left. The Palestinians moved in. Now, centuries later, they just move back and displace the people there? The Palestinians didn't even take it by force. The Isrealies left! I don't live in the house that I grew up in. My family voluntarily left for...
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Re: Zionism

xxGAMBITxx ·
1) The "jews" there now are NOT the "jews" refered to in the Bible. 2)Like everyone else, I agree...they left and gave up any and all claims to that land. 3) They did unto the Palestiaians what was done unto them by Nazi Germany. So they also gave up any moral and ethical rights in the dispute. 4)No one seems to ask "If God really meant for them to have that land, why do they have to fight, lie, and cheat to keep it?"
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Re: Zionism

kresge ·
I think that this is minor component of the Zionist argument, at least as originally concieved. Many, perhaps most Zionist are secularists. Further, many ultra Orthodox Jews, though extremely religious, have been staunchly anti-Zionist. The real impetus for Zionism was WWII and the Holocaust and the feeling that the Jews needed a safe haven from future persecution. Palestine was one option, but there where many, including areas in South America. This mess is of recent vintage, the creation...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

kresge ·
What the ....? According to the link you provided, we are supposed to come up with a state of the union address without using the following words:
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Kweli4Real ·
You know, I didn't go to the link. But what we have here, I think, is a tongue in cheek, kinda thing. The prohibited words make up the essence of everything Bush. And the Democratic response to the State of the Union Address should be the prohibited list with conjections and connectors inserted, where appropriate.
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Re: Should God?

Melesi ·
Heru, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have a question for the anti-fundamentalists. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What is an "anti-fundamentalist"? A non-fundamentalist? I'm not sure why you would exclude fundamentalists from answering your question. While I disagree with them, there are some thoughtful fundamentlists. Not many, probably, but engaging, affable, personable, thoughtful (if not deep) fundies. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Should God accomodate us? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...
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Re: Should God?

kresge ·
This is from an old post of mine in another thread with a few additions. ************************************************* As to the nature of God in the OT, check this out. Genesis 6:6 6 And the LORD was sorry that he had made humankind on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7So the LORD said, ˜I will blot out from the earth the human beings I have created"”people together with animals and creeping things and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them. Exodus 4:24-26 At...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

Nmaginate ·
Who said anything about defending acts no one said you were a party to or approved of? My thing is how these things escaped your view and recollection. Why should they? You referenced Suicide Bomb(ers)... Didn't you? You got some stories from the Danish press, etc. that talks about Suicide Bombings in that country? Me, when you referenced Suicide Bombers, I thought of Palestine. Now you can be honest about what you were referencing complete with the actual incident in whatever country beside...
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

ZAKAR ·
I appreciate your response, well thought out, where as I might disagree with your choices ,they are yours and I respect your viewpoint. My whole point is we should at least allow ourselves the options of building a nation for ourselves, some may want to do it here on North American Soil, others may want to repatriate, I support the choices of both. But like Israel, we deserve a land and nation of our own.I dont think it should be done by force, but the option should be on the table.
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

James Wesley Chester ·
But like Israel, we deserve a land and nation of our own.I dont think it should be done by force, but the option should be on the table.---ZAKAR We are unique among the people of the world. We are an amalgam forced together, without choice in a containment constructed on our labor. We cannot in turn impose ourselves, arguably 70MM strong, anywhere. Our best place is this place. We earned it. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Neoliberalism As A Descent Into Fascism

Kweli4Real ·
This is so true. I know this is off topic, and will no doubt get me on a list somewhere; but, it is an example of effective Zionist marketing, to cast [re-cast] all of history to center on the creation/existence/omnipotence of the state of Israel.
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

HonestBrother ·
One more time: Will someone please explain to me the ways in which we are not free now... and precisely how moving somewhere else (WHERE specifically is ANOTHER problem altogether) is going to change that?.... I believe in another thread when I declared the need for us to claim our freedom, someone - who shall remain unnamed - had a fit... but is now eloquently quoting Thomas Jefferson to that effect... In case you missed it before: Lest someone give Israel as an example of some folks who...
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

ZAKAR ·
you act like we can just up and all just leave right now, Im certainly not talking about that .What i am talking about is beginning the connection with other African people as well as brothers and sistas on the continent. Form bridges start organizations, international businesses. Everyone is not gonna leave america, probably most wont at least at the moment, but some have and more will, we can use this to build on expand out options and eventually with enough investment, exchanges and when...
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Re: Uncle Tom's Cabin

nayo ·
Good one. I found this really bad film version of 'Uncle Tom's cabin; and watched it through it's entirety, and we discovered that it was in fact 'sambo' who was the jerk. I'm also reading 'Slavery Defended', by McKitrick (1963) which presents many of the 'top minds' during slavery who vociferously defended African inferiority and the 'need' and good of slavery. :websource:http://www.ysursa.com/history/Reference%20pages/civil%20war/proslavery_defense.htm Topic: The Proslavery Defense > Q:...
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Re: Toddlers to protest against deportation of classmate's dad

ricardomath ·
Joel Manar with his wife and daughter before his arrest. (Archive/Alon Ron) Last update - 18:00 12/04/2006 Migrant worker freed from jail after daughter's friends protest By Yuval Azoulay, Haaretz Correspondent A migrant worker from Ghana illegally in Israel was freed from a Ramle jail Wednesday, days after his 2-year-old daughter's kindergarten classmates held a protest against his deportation. Joel Manar's release came after an Interior Ministry decision to delay his deportation by one...
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Re: Black Folks: It is Time to Lay Down the Mantle

MBM ·
If you don't accurately identify the source of your problem, how can you reasonably expect to solve it? This is the crux of the problem. White Supremacy Inc. would have you focus your angst on Mexicans and away from those who get rich on exploiting both. Again, Mexicans have not set wages. Mexicans have not hired anyone. White Supremacy Inc. has. Without clarity on this point, whatever energy you have is misplaced. And that's the point. Fighting for our interests is what politics and...
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

MBM ·
What if the heat continues to rise on the reparations movement and in 2016 the U.S. decides to grant a reparation in the form of a land grant - Israel-style. Who knows where. Is that completely implausible?
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

Shango67 ·
Not implausible. But, I caution, anything looking like Israel for Black folks may not be the right move - I am speaking in terms of control and autonomy.
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

HonestBrother ·
As implausible as George W. Bush admitting he made a mistake...
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

HonestBrother ·
Israel is highly dependent upon Western (read US) aid... The fact is, Israel, from its inception, has been a prime player in US geopolitical maneuvering in the region.
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

MBM ·
Those two statements, while perhaps true, seem to be at odds with each other. While they may be highly dependent upon our aid, they also are - fa sho - wagging the dog on a lot!
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

MBM ·
I don't know. Going from being considered a wild animal, a piece of chattel property, 3/5 of a human to having this conversation with you now - IMO - is an extraordinary stretch. All of a sudden, black folks execute an integrated attack on corporate interests that were involved in slavery - I could definitely see corporate America pressuring the government to get African America off their back if a reparation award would relieve the pressure. Maybe giving us some land somewhere is an ideal...
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

Yemaya ·
What does Israel have to do with Black Nationalism? I would just like to say please, leave Israel out of the discussion about our people. We need to focus instead of getting so easily distracted with the Israel issue. That is often used to keep us from focusing on issues with us.
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

MBM ·
In its most basic form: Black Nationalism = Zionism - a strategy, a campaign, a movement to acquire a homeland. Israel is an artificial, political land mass that was created to give a disposessed group of people a homeland. There's a lot that African America could learn from the successes and mistakes of Zionism IMO.
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

HonestBrother ·
That this is not the road to follow... IMHO
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

MBM ·
So - I guess Antartica it is?
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Re: Black Nationalism 2006

HonestBrother ·
I don't think it premature to begin considering ocean front property in Alaska and Canada....
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

ZAKAR ·
Ask Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea, Iran? Seems to me if you got the big bang it deters a lot of people from fuckin with you. They seem to want to come to the table.But if you have nothing , how can you have respect. Its not the big military that countries need, its the bomb, period
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

MBM ·
So who would get this bomb and how? Aren't we talking about a multi-national Pan African group? How would this happen?
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

ZAKAR ·
PanAfrica: 'Greater Africa' Has Changed the World Too Email This Page Print This Page The East African Standard (Nairobi) COLUMN April 16, 2006 Posted to the web April 17, 2006 Ali Mazrui Nairobi Two trends relevant to the African people have been under way since the second half of the 20th Century: globalisation of Africa and hegemonisation of the United States. Africa and the people of African descent have become more of a global presence. And the US has become more of a hegemony: Empire...
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

tmonster ·
This is not my worlld vision but I agree
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Re: So Pan-Africanism/Black nationalism establishes a solid foundation circa 2010...

MBM ·
I didn't mean necessarily to stay there, but in the way that Jews send their kids to Israel in their teen years or they used to send them to kibbutzes there - we need to start getting to know each other better and sending our kids over so they grow up with Africa in their consciousness. If a percentage of African Americans decided to go and live there then all the better.
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

MBM ·
SERGEANT, SO GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK WITH YOUR UNIQUE TAKE ON THE WORLD! First of all, in this thread I've made NO comments about anything other than saying that Friedman's article is interesting. Your comments directed to me are therefore, presumably, indicative of either your inability to read or some personal hang-up that you may suffer from. Either way - you should get help! That said, do you remember the Bush Doctrine and what that is all about? It's about PREEMPTING threats. The fact...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
That was the expected response mbm, thats why I clarified that at least for me, it would not suffice for you to hide behind an article that YOU posted here. Don't play that I didn't say it nonsense, you KNOW you support most that silly article, else why post it at all. And Friedman is notorious for being a nitwit. Lets see, 12 full years of UNITED NATIONS resolutions, negotiations, meetings, and sometimes threats and clinton had ALREADY installed the SANCTIONS, thats WORLD multilateralism...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

MBM ·
So, who was the greater terrorist threat, Iraq or Saudi Arabia? Let's see, where's Osama Bin Laden from? Where were most of the 9/11 terrorists from? Bush holds hands with SA yet overruns a country that we have been "patrolling" and "inspecting" since 1991? Huh? Why is it that apparently you can only connect Iraqi dots? There has always been far greater evidence about Saudi complicity in violence and terrorism than an emasculated Iraq. Thank you for clarifying the finer points of the Bush...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
"who was the greater terrorist threat, Iraq or Saudi Arabia" Saudi government was and is not believed to be stockpiling chem, bio, or nuke agents, nor producing long range missles, now are they. The Saudi government has not invaded its neighbor nations, nor has there been 12 years and 19 UN resolutions against the Saudi government. Its the WEAPONS and the ACTIONS that were the danger, terrorists without lethal weapons are pimples on the world's ass. Its hardly even comparable mbm. But I...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
"Why now?" Obviously, when it comes to terrorists getting weapons and the obvious hate and deprivation of so many, the better question is "WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU WAITING FOR?"" Personally, when it comes to security of any type, NOW is always better than 'maybe someday' as you propose. "First I'd execute a saner Middle East policy that was far more balanced than the overwhelmingly pro-Israeli approach we've traditionally had" Oh, well thats just 'swell' mbm, good lord, whats that, right out...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

NSpirit ·
isn't bringing up "the resolutions" a moot point? Haven't there been endless resolutions against Israel? other countries? without unilateral military action?
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

sergeant ·
No, there has NEVER been a binding resolution against Israel in history, and there has been 19 against Iraq. Please, we must educate ourselves better. A 'non-binding' resolution is simply an 'advisement' or an expression of 'opinion' by the UN body. Naturally, with so many arab nations in the UN, the votes for non-binding resolutions against Israel are there, and one or two have been issued for Israel. These have no forceful consequences, and are not 'threat-like' in any way. However, a...
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Re: A War For Oil? - Friedman

Nmaginate ·
Threat is such a relative term SGT. Threaten whom, what, when and how? Short of paranoia and unsunstantiated links, the U.S. cannot demonstrate, has not demonstrated the threat... After all wasn't the war about UN violations. An article informing about the so-called unsupported "double standard" regarding the binding vs. non-binding UN resolutions as they relate to Iraq vs. Israel says that, "Being a nuclear-armed power is not, by itself, a breach of international law." Well, in terms of...
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Re: Poverty in America: Why?

soul_doctor73 ·
Though the question is a good one, the reason you 'ask' it is an example of the 'mindset' in this country as well as the world. Poverty exists for one simple reason, regardless of what one choses to believe: need. The perceived value of money surpasses that of the individual person, and since money is a 'basic necessity', people die without it. If all needs were provided for 'equally' among all men, there would be no poverty. Certainly, a world where no one needs to work in order to purchase...
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Re: Marijuana.

soul_doctor73 ·
With as much information that is available on the diseases related to alcohol and tobacco use, it would stand to reason that an equal amount would be present for a 'drug' such as marijuana. But there is not. Not only this, Alcohol and Tobacco kill millions. Marajuana has been accused to 'invovelment' in fatal accidents, but no one has dropped dead from marijauna use. But they sure feel better if they us it 'medicinally'. They eat. The sleep. They laugh and play. They think and meditate, they...
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Re: Immigration Revisited

soul_doctor73 ·
But who needs' the 'income'? The state government or the 'immigrants'? We blacks are immigrants too.... Point being, that '10 billion a year' could take all the homeless off the street and provide for the needs of every family below the poverty level. At the same time. But I think big. Isaiah 1;2-3 "Hear, O heavens, and listen, O earth; for the LORD has spoken: I reared up children and brought them up, but they have rebelled agaist me. The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master's...
 
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