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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by Momentum: Too much self loathing in Panama and black people are indeed shut out. Brazil is a big country and borders the regions I spoke of and Uruguay that has a strong black population that was created when the Italians in Argentina genocide the black population and blacks fled to Uruguay back in the late 1800's. Blacks in most of the South American countries are have a hard time, Chile, Peru are very racist, very pro white but as you know...
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GoodMan ·
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: I got the link Momentum... You can delete it and I'll follow your instructions precisely. Cool, thanks
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I've not been to Africa yet but it's on my bucket list so to speak. Of course Ghana tops the list but I have couple friends in Sierra Leone who describe the conditions in such a way that make me think entrepreneurs interested in medical services, farming, education and telecommunications could probably dominate there. However Ebola is currently a big big problem. Even getting water and electricity reliably distributed might present business opportunities. Still an obstacle might be...
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Xeon ·
“Harvard University’s affirmative action policies, which the school says are aimed at achieving diversity on the vaunted campus of Cambridge, discriminate against Asians who often can’t get in despite having higher test scores and grade-point averages than Black students who are accepted, according to a lawsuit filed Monday.” Wow! Well, it’s a hard case and the Asians have point. They rock those SAT scores and devour math and hard sciences like candy. Something Negroes can’t do. The UC...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Asian Students Sue Harvard Over Admissions That Favor Black Students November 20, 2014 | Filed under: Featured , Headlines | Posted by: Editorial_Staff Harvard university AFRICANGLOBE – Harvard University’s affirmative action policies, which the school says are aimed at achieving diversity on the vaunted campus of Cambridge, discriminate against Asians who often can’t get in despite having higher test scores and grade-point averages than Black students who are...
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sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by Momentum: Why don't they sue white students who get in with lower standards who are admitted because of legacy? Asians voted strong Republican 2014. WTF? It's called, "White-boot licking".
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Norland ·
Why don't they just stay in Asia??
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DennisKalita ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Momentum: Why don't they sue white students who get in with lower standards who are admitted because of legacy? Asians voted strong Republican 2014. WTF? It's called, "White-boot licking". I think this is an Asian thing. This is the Pacific century and they want to rule. I was by the University in Berkeley, CA last year and saw the vast majority of students were all Asians. The world is changing, folks. It’s a global game now.
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Momentum: Why don't they sue white students who get in with lower standards who are admitted because of legacy? Asians voted strong Republican 2014. WTF? It's called, "White-boot licking". No it's not, its called protecting your interests. I actually posted about this a while ago and said it was coming months ago. Asians don't want Affirmative Action because it hurts them. I posted this article.
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Momentum: Why don't they sue white students who get in with lower standards who are admitted because of legacy? Asians voted strong Republican 2014. WTF? It's called, "White-boot licking". No it's not, its called protecting your interests. I actually posted about this a while ago and said it was coming months ago. Asians don't want Affirmative Action because it hurts them. I posted this article.
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Norland ·
This old dude's hard to look at, through no fault of his own. With my distorted thinking he looks exactly like a talking skull. White faces scare me sometimes, truthfully, so I'll have to refrain. Won't be able to get through #1 forget all the way to #8. Not in any way being facetious, just stating my truth. Apologies to whomever is hurt.
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Kocolicious ·
This suit has no basis. Cuz first....there is a REASON why there is a policy to admit black people in colleges.....duh uh. Jim Crow, segregation of black people for generations. Now what the FOCK have Asian folks done for anybody? It is not about SCORES. How about going back to your HOMELAND and fight for the rights there? Why come here and talk shyte about being unfair when Asians were no where in SIGHT during the civil rights movement MAKING EQUALITY happen. At first, it wasn't for ANYBODY...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by Norland: This old dude's hard to look at, through no fault of his own. With my distorted thinking he looks exactly like a talking skull. White faces scare me sometimes, truthfully, so I'll have to refrain. Won't be able to get through #1 forget all the way to #8. Not in any way being facetious, just stating my truth. Apologies to whomever is hurt. I listened twice, had it playing while doing other stuff, really interesting, well I was impressed anyway.
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NSpirit ·
Please, these people and their tiger mothers are going crazy and committing suicides on the daily. These are the mofos that kill themselves after flunking a test or not getting into a school. Why are there not to many male Asian physicians? The phukkers crack up under stress. This does not seem superior to . Me.
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sunnubian ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: "No it's not, its called protecting your interests. I actually posted about this a while ago and said it was coming months ago. Asians don't want Affirmative Action because it hurts them. I posted this article. " Oh, yes it is "White-boot licking", and that's really all it is. 'Protecting' what 'interests'? Asians are less than 3% of the population in America; what threat do or could African Americans possibly pose to what 'interests' of Asians in America?
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by NSpirit: Please, these people and their tiger mothers are going crazy and committing suicides on the daily. These are the mofos that kill themselves after flunking a test or not getting into a school. Why are there not to many male Asian physicians? The phukkers crack up under stress. This does not seem superior to . Me. I did not know that was happening. I read some of the cruel things tiger mom's do to their kids but I did not know there is a string of suicides because...
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NSpirit ·
http://chinspirations.com/mhso...parents#.VG_mIGDNhcs http://hardboiled.berkeley.edu...-suicide-phenomenon/ http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH....suicides/index.html http://www.sfgate.com/health/a...-suicide-4214483.php http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...still-_n_831430.html
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NSpirit ·
Well looky looky....it seems the group that filed this suit does not represent an Asian American majority. The group is using Asians to eliminate affirmative action and the Asians know it! Or at least some of them. http://news.yahoo.com/asian-am...dGlkA1RBVVMwODZfMQ-- Yahoo News Asian American Activists Are Refusing to Join the Fight Against Affirmative Action By Joseph Williams | Takepart.com 13 hours ago Takepart.com It’s been called the “bamboo ceiling”—the perception that highly...
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DennisKalita ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by sunnubian: Originally Posted by Momentum: Why don't they sue white students who get in with lower standards who are admitted because of legacy? Asians voted strong Republican 2014. WTF? It's called, "White-boot licking". No it's not, its called protecting your interests. I actually posted about this a while ago and said it was coming months ago. Asians don't want Affirmative Action because it hurts them. I posted this article.
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by Momentum: Brah you said it! Not just them East Indians too! People in general better get their priorities straight. Its only going to become more competitive with less jobs in the pool. Unless we the people can turn this oligarchy around. But it is going to be very difficult. I encourage anyone to listen to this interview, its one of the best informative interviews about the construct of our society, social class and government, what the oligarchy is trying and is doing...
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by NSpirit: Well looky looky....it seems the group that filed this suit does not represent an Asian American majority. The group is using Asians to eliminate affirmative action and the Asians know it! Or at least some of them. I saw that UNC advertisement, but I didn't know it was the same group. If Asians are going against this campaign, either: They value some solidarity with Latinos and African Americans (which would be weird since we are worlds apart) They don't wanna...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by NSpirit: http://chinspirations.com/mhso...parents#.VG_mIGDNhcs http://hardboiled.berkeley.edu...-suicide-phenomenon/ http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH....suicides/index.html http://www.sfgate.com/health/a...-suicide-4214483.php http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...still-_n_831430.html NSpirit, Those articles are insightful on Asian culture and the abuse many of their children bear. Of course not all Asians or even the majority of them treat their children that way but obviously...
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Kocolicious ·
And most importantly...not every Asian ethnic group is SMART. Not every Asian student is SMART. That's the misconception. They are humans just like us....with some of us gifted in science or math or art or etc. The difference? Their families push them into science [including and especially computer science] and math. Doesn't mean that they excel in it. I remember in a study group in college with Asian students....me thinking they are smart will help the group excel. Not! A couple of ;em were...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by Momentum: Brah you said it! Not just them East Indians too! People in general better get their priorities straight. Its only going to become more competitive with less jobs in the pool. Unless we the people can turn this oligarchy around. But it is going to be very difficult. I encourage anyone to listen to this interview, its one of the best informative interviews about the construct of our society, social class and government, what the...
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GoodMan ·
I decided to go out of my way to the source. Asian American news outlets are hard to find, but I found a good one, and the are discussing Affirmative Action. And for all intents and purposes they are in favor of removing it. http://www.hyphenmagazine.com/...et/hard-part-getting By most measures, Harrison Kim is a successful high school student. Not only does he have stellar grades, the 18-year-old senior from Sammamish, WA, also plays guitar in a high school rock band and regularly performs...
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by Momentum: Yeah, they dominate engineering indeed but in the real world on the job I can say African Americans kick ass! In the work place we tend to have better ideas more creative and we mind our own business and get the work done. Let me tell you we put in more hours because when we get the opportunity to have a good paying career we know we are fortunate no matter what ethnic background and we work with much more resiliency. Asians tend to breakdown under pressure,...
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NSpirit ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by NSpirit: Well looky looky....it seems the group that filed this suit does not represent an Asian American majority. The group is using Asians to eliminate affirmative action and the Asians know it! Or at least some of them. I saw that UNC advertisement, but I didn't know it was the same group. If Asians are going against this campaign, either: They value some solidarity with Latinos and African Americans (which would be weird since we are...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by Momentum: Yeah, they dominate engineering indeed but in the real world on the job I can say African Americans kick ass! In the work place we tend to have better ideas more creative and we mind our own business and get the work done. Let me tell you we put in more hours because when we get the opportunity to have a good paying career we know we are fortunate no matter what ethnic background and we work with much more resiliency. Asians tend...
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by NSpirit: The article definitely provides a bit of context for me. This same group bringing the suit is willing to pit Asians against Blacks to achieve their goal of eradicating affirmative action. The logic in the suit seems so twisted and convoluted though. It's almost as if Asians should have 90% of slots with whites and Hispanics fighting over the rest and Blacks be fanned. Further, as you've pointed out Asians may well dominate in some science and technology but...
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NSpirit ·
In social services I've observed some different family dynamics with East Asian families. I've seen elderly people be yelled at by spouses and children for being, feeble,forgetful and needing services. I've seen Asian women totally unaware of rights, options, services they are entitled to. But I've also seen Korean women be extra feisty toward their men in hair shops. Every family and every community operates from a set of values and its fascinating to observe. There is no model minority.
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by NSpirit: In social services I've observed some different family dynamics with East Asian families. I've seen elderly people be yelled at by spouses and children for being, feeble,forgetful and needing services. I've seen Asian women totally unaware of rights, options, services they are entitled to. But I've also seen Korean women be extra feisty toward their men in hair shops. Every family and every community operates from a set of values and its fascinating to observe.
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by Momentum: Let me tell ya, white people KNOW THIS and know better than anyone. Which is why we get so much attention. This is why they have these notions of us being super, magical. When a black person has it, its hard not to notice. But the flip side at some point we will stand up for ourselves and unfortunately we do it in losing situations because we are not the majority and working for someone else. I know in my heart if we as a people pull together and cultivate our...
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Momentum ·
Originally Posted by GoodMan: Originally Posted by Momentum: Let me tell ya, white people KNOW THIS and know better than anyone. Which is why we get so much attention. This is why they have these notions of us being super, magical. When a black person has it, its hard not to notice. But the flip side at some point we will stand up for ourselves and unfortunately we do it in losing situations because we are not the majority and working for someone else. I know in my heart if we as a people...
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GoodMan ·
Originally Posted by Momentum: Originally Posted by GoodMan: Yeah, what I've been saying and I'm sure others thinking one way or another but honestly I think most black people have lost their confidence in our own people. Especially so when you don't see such projects or at least discussions not a priority in our most recognized social organizations and churches. I think its a cop out to use our social argument and capital to persuade white people to change while in numbers if we as a people...
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