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Re: calling all fASHIONista men!!

bigddouble ·
I don't equate dressing up with being gay - I just don't care for the look you described (and typically if you see a brother ( especially in ATL! ) rocking that kind of 'fashion', he's gay - AG & I are just trying to help you out!) The look you're raving about is an Esquire, GQ type of fashion, i.e. European. Sorry, it's just not my style. Do you know how much those clown clothes cost? By the way, I'm not a fan of the mega-expensive urban wear either. I have better things to do with my...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

James Wesley Chester ·
My first reaction remains, 'No.' The Colonies never established a viable economy without slavery. The forced labor created by slavery enabled the creation and maintenance of the cash crops of the agrarian economy that sustained 'The Colonies'. You will recall the economy of The Colonies, from the early 1500s to early 1600s, was hunting and trapping. Furs of various kinds was the cash crop. Slavery enabled all of the European Colonies in the Western Hemisphere. All the 'poor 'whites' you pose...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
The key distinction is OWNERSHIP AND POWER. Those who have both SEEK TO PROTECT THEIR POSSESSION. Those who don't have them seek to LIBERALIZE the rules and have more of these resources to flow their way. When it comes to international aide and financing the liberalist American sounds very CONSERVATIVE. When it comes to understanding the plight of the Mexican father to depart his family and come to the United States illegally in order to work and feed his family it seems that many of you are...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
EP, Yes, John Locke and the idea of universal rights is very European, though they did not spring full-grown from the head of the French Revolution, especially that part of it that so quickly degenerated into the Reign of Terror and was well criticized by such as Edmund Burke, a supporter of much of the American philosophy. But this couldn't have arisen without the ground of the Christian faith. It's no wonder that the Magna Carta was forced on King John in England. It was a first step...
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Re: 2005 Lynching

James Wesley Chester ·
South Carolina legally defines lynching as a mob attack against an individual where the victim survives.---article What does the law call act when the victim is killed? I would argue that the reason for the law's color-blindness is intentional. It now allows Black folk to be convicted of lynching, rather than say assault. Doing this denigrates the significance of Hate crime and Race legislation.---K4R Now that's an interesting observation. What they call it when a non-European commits the...
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Re: Vouchers ???

James Wesley Chester ·
Is having schools compete for students beneficial to childrens education ???---Sweetwuzzy Yes. As I said on another current thread, by MBM I think, that very competition is the only leverage (money) that can force a change, and improvement hopefully in the current construction of our public school system(s) I also think Nmaginate's point is key. Why is it we don't 'jump on' the petitions for federal funding of the private schools that enable European kids evade the requirement for...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

James Wesley Chester ·
I can live with K41's reply i.e. equal reward for equal effort. I know what the 'end of the rainbow' is, but my ultimate expectation of America is societal parity. Not equality, but parity. And we have the key to that, not European-Americans. It appears we will be a long, long time achieving 'equal reward for equal effort'. We will not even demand equal treatment under the law. What can we expect??? That is more on point. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Vouchers ???

Sweetwuzzy ·
I agree. Why does it matter if white kids(or any kid of any race) evade integration of public schools??
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
I don't think either JWC or SweetWuzzy quite got Nmag's clear point. With all the anti-school desegregation machinations where Whites tried to get government funding for their private schools... I'm like trying to see how come that RACIST history is ignored or forgotten. To answer Sweet... The intention is for Whites to obtain government subsidies for their private school perogatives. The problem and even the reason for concern over integration is how it is an American Social/Political Fact...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Empty Purnata ·
Now there is no debating that. Anyone who tries to deny the fact that "school vouchers" have a racist past, and most likely a racist modern-day intent, have their heads buried in the ground. Of course, many White racists will deny it to the end, and their Black-faced, chicken-eating, greasy-grinnin', coon-shuffling lackies will follow them to the ends of the Earth and beyond.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

James Wesley Chester ·
I almost hate to add to this already clear issue. Almost. Without simple cynicism, there is nothing to be gained by engaging in discussion to 'educate' European-Americans, or European America. Both are 'consciously ignorant', as in invincibly ignorant. We do not owe such an effort to either African America, or America herself. That ignorance, of the European American, is a cultured, and treasured perspective that successfully resisted all efforts to effect change. That 'promised land' is not...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Well, ART_GURL, with JWC weighing in as EVERYONE (other than me) *lol*... It would seem that, in all your questions, with all the answers you're "looking" for, with all the answers you've gotten... Well, it's clear that you're just not listening. So, AG? Are you listening? You have been given information, rather freely I might add, about "what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities..." But somehow, because of some pre-set idea you know you have ("two sides")... you're just not...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Yeah, ISOME... be some people view that ASSERTION OF ONE'S HUMANITY as some type of troubling REBELLION. How dare a ni@@er not subscribe to "This Is A White Man's World." The European is not going to change his ways until he decides that he no longer wishes to remain a distinct genetic group. He has a right to decide this. He does not have a right to trample over other people. [But yet, nothing is said...] They know the consequences of yielding their guard and accepting full "integration".
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Empty Purnata ·
The White Man has a right to decide to be a "distinct genetic group" (is he saying that anti-miscegnation laws are justified, as well as racial seperation laws?), but don't have the right to trample over other people? This is effectively nothing more than "Seperate But Equal" repackaged.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Europe's Love-Hate Relationship With Africa If the concept of "whiteness" has influenced the world, and the goal of White Supremacy is to establish (and maintain) whiteness as THE standard of universal beauty, how do we account for Europe's (of all places) fascination with Black people? How do you account for Europeans', particularly those in the Fashion Industry, love for Native African models like Alek Wek? Considering Europe is the place from which European-Americans come, one would...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

nayo ·
That perspective, gives me cognitive dissonant reflux, everytime. Perhaps the 'appreciation', is more fetishstic(sp), than 'natural' appreciation, which I'm hesitant to understand. I think of Europe's adoration of Grace Jones in the 1980's, and feeling something was 'off'. Not that Jones was'nt a beautiful woman (if not odd), but being that Europe, is the cradle of white supremacy, their appreciation suggests something deeper, more than a 'simple' appreciation of aesthetics. Makes me go,...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

kresge ·
IMO, the attraction is rooted in the signifying, displacement, projection or othering that is part of white supremacy. If one sets up these binaries of white/black, good/bad, chase/sexual and libidinous, saintly/sinner one will see this phenomenon of love/hate. Women of color have historically been portrayed as sexual, erotic, alluring, dark and mysterious as well as ugly, undesirable, and repulsive. The "other" both attracts and repells. It fascinates and terrifies.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: PBS: Slavery And the Making Of America

James Wesley Chester ·
This is indeed one the outstanding pieces on the history of Africans in America. If you are paying attention, you will notice as did I, that The Mayflower came waaaaay late in the game. The Mayflower is the European Spin put on the history of North America. Tape it. If you can't tape it, buy it. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: NUBIAN Queen Ti Unearthed

Yemaya ·
Good post. This statue bust that appears on this post was found some time ago. It has been used in various documentaries about King Tut and his family lineage. I've even seen it on a website called "Black Consciousness" where they've linked it to different pages about African history. I'd like to point out one thing, many so-called expert Egyptologists are European. Has anyone else ever noticed that??
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Re: Black enterprise: Understanding Africa's Persistent Poverty

Dusty Elbow ·
Yeah I had too laugh initially with the shade tree part of the article. But I think Black Enterprise did that to save them some grace of supporting Hernando deSoto ideas outright in their article. But only a capitalist thinks and turn profit off anything they touch. Didn't the story the King Midas golden touch is a European capitalist type of thinking. So this type of thinking isnt rare.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think that Lincoln gets way to much credit for this. He wrote in a letter, just before the beginning of the Civil War, that his "greatest concern is to save the Union. If I believed that preserving slavery would accomplish that goal, I would do so." The only thing Lincoln deserves credit for is being far sighted enough to realize that if slavery wasn't abolished, the slaves themselves were going to tear his beloved Union down around his ears.---Black Viking I really appreciat your post. I...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Thank you. Many people are unaware of the role Europeon nations played. Not because the information is unavailable, just because it doesn't fit into our cultural rhetoric. In school, we are consitantly lead to believe that slavery ended because America just woke up one day and realized slavery was wrong. The fact is that America knew that slavery was wrong from the beginning, and also knew that salvery was unsustainable. There is an exellent biography on George Washington titled "An...
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Re: Zionism

kresge ·
I think that this is minor component of the Zionist argument, at least as originally concieved. Many, perhaps most Zionist are secularists. Further, many ultra Orthodox Jews, though extremely religious, have been staunchly anti-Zionist. The real impetus for Zionism was WWII and the Holocaust and the feeling that the Jews needed a safe haven from future persecution. Palestine was one option, but there where many, including areas in South America. This mess is of recent vintage, the creation...
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Re: The Cost Of Slavery Was High. But Who Will Pay For It?

James Wesley Chester ·
A continuing discussion on reparations is good when it is generated among African American-Americans. It should be good when any American discusses the subject, and I suppose it is. I do not have much interest in the opinion of European-Americans on the subject, however. That is primarily because I do not perceive their opinion being important to my conclusion. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

Vox ·
I gather the point of MBM's post, on a basic level, is that people who revere that song have bought into this idea that they're so much better off in America, when in reality most of them live pretty crappy lives, with little to show for all of the opportunity they believe they have. Indeed, it's hard to argue that many of the so-called "rednecks" (southern or not, Frenchy/Nate, the stereotypes are of rednecks) who love that song are doing better than the average person from most of the...
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

James Wesley Chester ·
Some suggest that they fear that if reparations are awarded that it will prevent African Americans from any future right to legal redress against discrimination. Aside from whether you think this argument makes sense or not, would you agree to a reparations award (of an agreeable amount) if the "cost" was any future opportunity to pursue legal remedy under a race specific claim? You could sue under any race neutral Constitutional protection but any race specific laws would be removed from...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Empty Purnata ·
I have no sympathy for that kind of bullshit. I can't stand the fucking anti-PC crowd that tries to hide racism and bigotry behind "freedom of speech". "Oh, we have freedom of speech to say what we want! That's what makes Western society great! Freedom of expression and exchange. And after all, sometimes the truth is ugly." OH FUCK YOU!! These same "anti-PC" c*nts would scream for censorship if I drew a cartoon depicting Adolph Hitler baking Jews, or if I drew a cartoon depicting White...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Black Viking ·
I'm not anti-PC, but I am anti-censorship. If they're going to dish it out, then they have to be willing to take it as well. All the things that you listed are things that white people should be able to take without making a federal issue out of it. Especially considering how much of their shit everyone else is required to take in this form. I have to take offense at all the violence though. It was a cartoon, not a bomb. All they've done is prove the cartoon has a semblence of accuracy when...
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

James Wesley Chester ·
Rev. Lowry also pulled no punches in pointing out that CSK and MLK were both victimized by domestic spying by the government.---Vox The Republicans are trying to make this event about 'bashing Bush'. What bottom-feeders!! This reaction is a part of that European-American mentality that says African American-Americans are being disruptive, and inappropriate when we 'tell' what European-Americans have done, or are doing, to us. It is 'bashing', it is 'truculent', it is disorderly; it is wrong...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

kresge ·
Like Black Viking, I am not anti-PC, but I am anti-censorship. Whether or not I find the comic offensive, I think that a publication has the right to print it and I believe that individuals have the right to protest against it non-violently. I support their right to censure (express harsh criticism of the picture) but not to censor (control the press, speech, artistic expression). Free expression to my mind is integral to democratic society. Personal anecdote: I was a chaplain in NYC when...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Faheem ·
This is one of the problems with Western Media and its Johnny come lately reporting and its refusal to state truth when it is widely known. Most men and women in America and some of you on this forum believe that these protest just started a few weeks ago, and started off violently. These cartoons as most articles have noted were first published in September, the protest against these cartoons began then. The protest were all peaceful, the Danish Muslim community wrote letters, Muslim...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

HonestBrother ·
This reminds of the Republican/corporate media response to Joseph Lowery's comments about Bush yesterday. They're not saying anything about "free speech" there. Instead he's accused of using Mrs. King's death for political purposes. It's only "free speech" when it expresses a pro-white/pro-USA/pro-corporate-power point of view.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Vox ·
Doesn't change anything for me. I'm not going to pretend to understand this mindset. And I think Kresge is right, that the newspapers aren't beyond reproach. But just because the European media was intransigent in their response to boycotts and protests, doesn't lead me to think violence is in any way a justifiable next resort for the aggrieved. And like I said, in this case it's even stupider IMO, in the face of the subject matter of the cartoon.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Faheem ·
Maybe thats your problem, you are looking for a justifiable reason, when all I have given you is the reason why the violence is happening. I rarely if ever waste time trying to justify anything, I simply give you the cause and reaction, you can take it or let it alone. Either way, what we see happening did not happen in a vacuum and it was not unprovoked.
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Re: Copying one of the white man hopes end in failure in Africa

Dusty Elbow ·
US may press Africa on GMOs By Shapi Shacinda Wed Feb 8, 10:35 AM ET The U.S. may push Africa to accept gene-altered (GMO) food now that the World Trade Organization (WTO) has ruled the EU broke rules by barring GMO foods and seeds, but Africans vowed on Wednesday to resist. "We do not want GM (genetically modified) foods and our hope is that all of us can continue to produce non-GM foods," Zambian Agriculture Minister Mundia Sikatana told Reuters in Lusaka. "The decision by the WTO does...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

kresge ·
Some of you may have seen this article, but I thought I would throw it into the mix from the site Race Traitor . The White Anti-Racist Is an Oxymoron: An Open Letter to "White Anti-Racists" By Tamara K. Nopper I received an annoying e-mail about white people and their struggle to do anti-racist work. I keep reading and hearing white people talk about their struggle to do anti-racist organizing, and frankly it gets on my nerves. So I am writing this open letter to white people who engage in...
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Re: CP Time

Rowe ·
I don't feel much like getting into a scholarly discussion about this right now, but John S. Mbiti, author of African Religions and Philosophy has a chapter in his book about African conceptions of time and space. Paraphrasing, he talks about how traditionally, African people live "in the moment." Unlike Europeans, who are incredibly time-conscious and time-obsessed, Black people will not restrict ourselves to oppressive time schedules. Our culture and the way we do things are much different...
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Re: CP Time

ma'am ·
Woah. I'm so European.
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Re: CP Time

Khalliqa ·
Aaaaahhh Mbiti.... I have read his book [i]African Religions and Philosophy thoroughly..... Time--- When you operate on "time" to achieve this one must be able to plan.... to plan one must be able to have enough past information and future assessment to be able to accurately estimate a time of arrival.... one must also be able to be disciplined enough which entails much prioritizing of responsibility to execute their plan of arrival..... On the other hand.... constricted time frames do not...
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Khalliqa ·
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

ZAKAR ·
I think a better way to phrase this question is to simply ask, Are you an assimilationist, or Nationalist? What have we gained so far in this country? is it worth the price our ancestors paid? what would africa be like today if it hadnt been depopulated for Europes advancement. How does our participating in this European Capitalist system benifit us. By benifiting us in this country help our brothers and sistas on the continent or the rest of the african diaspora.If there was land available...
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Re: CP Time

ZAKAR ·
There are moments that I hate CP time because I function daily in the white world that requires you to be on time and then I have to flip-the-script when dealing with my folks and allow lateness. There is the delima,training our natural selves into our artifical selves.If we base everything in life on the ideals and values of the dominant European society, what happens to our natural selves?
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

James Wesley Chester ·
I believe that respect will nost greatly enhanced when we recognize ourselves, we Americans of unknown African ancestry, as the ethncity we are, and the ancestral nationality we have. African America. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

umbrarchist ·
In the old Man From U.N.C.L.E. television series there was an "evil" organization called T.H.R.U.S.H., it was referred to as a supranation. That is what we need a Black supranation. Technology and global pollution make nationalism obsolete. The spread and dominance of European culture on the planet means there is nowhere to go. We must figure out how to cope with it where we stand. We need to create the: T echnological H eirarchy for the R essurection and U nification of S uper H umans LOL A...
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Re: Spiritual Autobiography

Rowe ·
My earliest experiences and thoughts about God and religon were frightening. Even though concepts of heaven and hell were not discussed in my home, I had friends whose parents were religious and attended church regularly. And so whenever I would stay the night with a friend and her family on weekends, I was expected to also attend church with them on Sunday before returning home. And this is where the nightmare begins. Unlike White ministers, who tend to be very reserved speakers, Black...
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

ZAKAR ·
No we shouldnt impose ourselves anywere, but we should begin to travel abroad study abroad , especially in Africa.I have many friends from all over the continent of Africa and the biggest problem between us is propaganda. Most brothers and sistas i know from the continent, deep down have a lot a of for africans in america and the diaspora. Once we begin to dig up our history , study who we are relate to our own the walls of ignorance will crumble. We are an african people you can hyphenate...
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

James Wesley Chester ·
I see your point. A major result of reestablishing our ancestral nationality will be parity status as a participating member in Pan-Africanism. We simply 'unclaimed orphans' participating simply because we are 'black'. That is an insult to ourselves. Reesstablishing our relationship with the nations of Africa must, not should, be as a freestanding ethnicity unique in our own right. African American. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: For the GOOD Brothas:(Dating outside you race)

ZAKAR ·
As long as black women continue to judge black men according to European standard they will never be satisfied or happy, Black men will never be and can never be white men in this society.See what most of you college educated sistas fail to realize is your education often educates you out being able to relate to a black man. Read Miseducation of the Negro, Carter G Woodson. We are in a time period were black men are forced to think outside the box .We are creative unorthodox, we have to be...
 
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