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Re: Bush Admits Faulty Iraq Intel

Kevin41 ·
Al Qaeda No. 2: Bush must admit defeat in Iraq (CNN) -- An Arabic language news network has aired a video of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden's top lieutenant, in which he called on U.S. President George W. Bush to admit defeat in Iraq. Al-Jazeera said the video, which is about a minute long, was made in December. According to CNN's translation of the video, Ayman al-Zawahiri offers his condolences to Pakistan for the October 8 earthquake before congratulating fellow Muslims for what he says...
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Re: Bible = The Word of God?

nubian1125 ·
MBM, God is never done speaking through his people. God has always risen one to speak to the people. I'm a christian and i catch alot of heat for this but i'm going to keep it real. I Believe God speaks at times to louis farrahkan. Even though he is a muslim. We are a race of people in the dark, and God had put the words into his mouth to guide us and to lead us. Now it is up to Louis Farrahkan to take heed to this call. As a christian i can't give Louis Farrahkan credit for calling on...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

HeruStar ·
How can an educated person let a handful of religous zealots or fanatics represent hundreds of millions of peaceful religous followers; and then have the nerve to depict that ignorance as if it is some form of elite sattire? What if I painted a caricature of a white man standing near a black church with bombs in his hands, and placed a tatoo on his back that said 'White Protestant Male'? What if I painted a caricature that suggested that all whites in America are part of the KKK? Doesn't...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Faheem ·
This is one of the problems with Western Media and its Johnny come lately reporting and its refusal to state truth when it is widely known. Most men and women in America and some of you on this forum believe that these protest just started a few weeks ago, and started off violently. These cartoons as most articles have noted were first published in September, the protest against these cartoons began then. The protest were all peaceful, the Danish Muslim community wrote letters, Muslim...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Vox ·
Doesn't change anything for me. I'm not going to pretend to understand this mindset. And I think Kresge is right, that the newspapers aren't beyond reproach. But just because the European media was intransigent in their response to boycotts and protests, doesn't lead me to think violence is in any way a justifiable next resort for the aggrieved. And like I said, in this case it's even stupider IMO, in the face of the subject matter of the cartoon.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Black Viking ·
Yes, my response is the same. It is not OK for them to blow things up over a picture, just because they did not get the response that they wanted. It's good that the muslim community tried peaceful protest. That does not mean that anyone else has to bend over backwards just because they don't approve. No one commited violence on them. There violent response is unacceptable. This is the kind of shit that starts wars over nothing.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Empty Purnata ·
And this kind of shit is unacceptable as well. http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/8001048173 Hypocrisy, double standards, and "freedom of speech" rhetoric.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Vox ·
I think it goes a little deeper than that, though, Faheem. When I said that I can't pretend to understand the mindset, I had in mind my miniscule, rudimentary understanding of the impact on Muslims from the Middle East on the fact that they largely come from a ethnic culture that derives a huge portion of its identity from religion. Islam isn't just a religion; it is probably the primary influence on their culture (even on those there who aren't Muslim). I suspect that this makes it much...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

UppityNegress ·
The cartoons were originally commisioned to test the boundaries of free speech in Denmark. An ethnically Danish author who was writing a pro-Muslim children's book on Islam, couldn't find anyone to illustrate it for fear of violence and persecution from the Muslims in Denmark. He questioned whether political correctness in regards to Muslims was hindering free speech in the country. The newspaper drawings were meant as a test--granted, a rather childish one. The smarter option would have...
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Re: Bush's War On The Poor

Black Viking ·
I'm starting to realize that fiscal conservatives aren't that different from social conservatives. There both stupid. Poor fiscal conservatives actually believe Bush is doing something for them with his tax cuts. Although, there is nothing to base this on except what Bush told them. Idiots. Bush is helping rich conservatives though, and their support of him doesn't suprise me in the least. OK, poor conservatives, let's here it. Why did you vote for this guy? Oh that's right. I remember now.
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

UppityNegress ·
I suppose that argument would have some merit in Palestine, but that situation isn't comparable to what is happening in northern Europe. Muslims in Scandinavia especially are far from ocupied--hell, they willingly migrated there to escape the poverty and extremism of their own countries! Having lived in the area for a brief period, I can say that while there is racism (or perhaps more accurately, culturism) in places like Denmark and Sweden, the Muslims there are segregated from mainstream...
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Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican

Kweli4Real ·
The question that you ask in the thread title is different from the question that you are "researching." At any rate, the answer to the thread question is neither party has put us in power. I don't know which party has appointed more Black folk to "major roles", but I would imagine the republican party, and more specifically, this Bush administration. But so what? The answer remains that neither party has put us into a position of power; only positions of responsibility for carrying out...
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Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican

Black Viking ·
Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican
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Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican

Pace Tua ·
No doubt. Omega, do you know how many people have come here and posted that same web site? Different pretext, same reason.
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Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican

Omega4ul ·
Thanks, Kweli4Real! I like that quote, I think it is from Bob Marley. I agree that neither party put us in a position of 'power'. Although those nominated officails were put into their respective roles to carry out an agenda, they were qualified. One question, What are the interests of Black folk? (Mine may be different from yours) PAce Tua, I am new so I am not sure. I found that website and I was wondering how legit it was. I knew a blog like this would be able to give me some insight. Thanks
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Re: What Party puts us in power?? Democrat or Republican

kresge ·
I still can't figure out how they are claiming the folks on the front page are all Black Republicans. Heck, Richard Allen died a couple of decades before the modern Republican Party even existed.
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

Empty Purnata ·
I know what you mean, those were the warning signs with my parents too. But, as horrific as I just made my parents sound, it's not all that bad all the time. Many days, their religious shenanigans were just laughable in my mind. Like they would get all worked up in a frenzy if they saw two guys kiss on TV. It was those egrigious incidents that made them so bad. But, I'd have to say, my parents, as of late, seem to be getting better. I just had a conversation with my parents today and the...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Funny how you wouldn't answer the very question that I put forth with regard to left-wing progressivism in our community AMONG BLACK PEOPLE. Here is my shot: The Black community has traditionally been bound by CULTURAL PRECEDENT. For the longest you had a mother and grandmother who warned against "Shacking" and who could read the character of a "date" that you brought home the very first time they met them. Economically, prior to our forefathers moving North we worked the land. There was a...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

MBM ·
What wing of the conservative movement is driving/running the Republican party and the over-all conservative agenda today? Is it so unreasonable to question those who support a movement which at its heart does and has promoted an agenda which is directly inimical to African America's interests? If it is an African American who is supporting that same Anti African American Agenda, then is it wrong to attempt to better understand that? A tree hugger is out to save a tree and the environment. A...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146 By George Esiri 2 hours, 2 minutes ago ONITSHA, Nigeria (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. ADVERTISEMENT Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their...
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Re: I'm In Love With A Stripper?

HonestBrother ·
Girls, Girls, Girls Motley Crue Friday night and I need a fight My motorcycle and a switchblade knife Handful of grease in my hair feels right But what I need to get me tight are Girls, girls, girls Long legs and burgundy lips Girls, girls, girls Dancin' down on the sunset strip Girls, girls, girls Red lips, fingertips Trick or treat--sweet to eat On halloween and new year's eve Yankee girls ya just can't be beat But you're the best when you're off their feet Girls, girls, girls At the...
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Re: Soul Singer Isaac Hayes Quits 'South Park'

ma'am ·
That's what ran through my head when I first heard the news.
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Re: Soul Singer Isaac Hayes Quits 'South Park'

HonestBrother ·
Actually I always enjoyed the show ridiculing religion - IMHO, it's religious irreverence is the one redeeming quality of this show... What I couldn't understand was how Isaac Hayes (great musician that he is) could tolerate playing the show's only regular black character - one that I always saw as somewhat buffoonish. One episode that bothered me in particular had this character drooling over the lily white Cathy Lee Gifford - it just seemed so stereotypical the way this scenario was...
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Re: Men love promiscuous women..They just don't want to marry one.

Khalliqa ·
The threads with the most hits are the ones with naked women..... so a few comments here and there about women with substance are...... nice..... but not the norm..... and certainly not the most popular... **Also, I was a member of another board (many members here were there too---a hip hop board--don't ask--) and the moderator there started a thread full of modestly dressed women and muslim women in beautiful garments from around the world...... many of the male posters commented heavily on...
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Re: Condi for President? No thank you.

nayo ·
The comment towards the end of this article, is relatively disengenuous, as it minimizes the historical significance of 'the trades' industrial side;and while slavery had ended, it is obvious who was working the cotton fields. (isolated comment near the end.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rice's Beatle break from diplomacy U.S. secretary of state in Liverpool, will meet British counterpart From Elise Labott CNN Thursday, March 30, 2006; Posted: 8:19 p.m.
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Kai ·
Peace.... This was not the express purpose of Cheikh Anta Diop's work, however, included within Professor Diop's findings is the requisite evidence necessary to demonstrate a very well established union between the original practices, and language of the hebrews, with that of the people in ancient Kemet. The relationship between the words goes far beyond the interpretation of the term. The Bible was prepared by students out of the Kemetic Mysteries. This thread questions the correlation...
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Re: Illegal Immigration

MBM ·
Protest coalition heads to capital Rally pushes for immigrant rights BY NIRAJ WARIKOO FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER April 10, 2006 On the eve of a national protest expected to be held today in Washington, a diverse group of Michiganders gathered Sunday night in front of a Detroit church to rally for immigrant rights. Chanting "We are America," hundreds stood on the steps of Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in southwest Detroit to protest legislation that would criminalize many in their communities.
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Re: Do you think this is funny?

kresge ·
From http://www.snopes.com/racial/humor/nascar.asp Claim: David Letterman offered a "Top Ten" list about why there are no black NASCAR drivers. Status: False. Example: [Collected via e-mail, 2005] David Lettermans reason why there are no black drivers in NASCAR #10 - Have to sit upright while driving. #9 - Pistol won't stay under front seat. #8 - Engine noise drowns out the rap music. #7 - Pit crew can't work on car while holding up pants at the same time. #6 - They keep trying to carjack...
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Re: Choose your oppressor

Khalliqa ·
Hmmmm.... lots of venom .... Please answer... What is the definition of Muslim? Islam? Arab? Black? And.... just for clarity.... since you see religious ministers as pimps..... do you agree with the corollation that their flock are whores? Peace, Virtue
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Re: Choose your oppressor

HeruStar ·
Muslim is a religion, Islam is a sector, Arab is a culture. Black is a race which used to be a glorified heritage with it's own religion, within it's own sector, with it's own culture. and you're not a whore unless you're an evangelist minion running the same half-cocked nonsense, your uninformed minister may be running.
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Re: Choose your oppressor

Khalliqa ·
Hmmmmmm..... I see... Thanks for the clarification of your views.... V
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Nmaginate ·
Oh.... I'm trembling now that you called me a LIAR!! Call me names I just.... I like it like that!!! Because I'm not a Christian (now) does not mean that I was never a Christian or that I'm ignorant to what Christian traditions or Biblical traditions are. My memory may fail me but I do believe you at one point and time told me that it wasn't necessary to be a Muslim to understand their beliefs and that such a suggestion as an imperative was flawed. Regardless, your aSSumptions about what I...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Nmaginate ·
You're a riot!! I think I've demonstrated my knowledge as it pertains to the Bible plenty of times to you. Lest you forget the Jesus & Christianity Debate we had before. No... I don't swallow your doctrine but you can't say I don't "know nothing about" the Bible or Christianity. What happened to your little whimpy plea: "MBM, Sorry, but this guy just will not discuss reasonably." Yeah... that was when you had very little to say in defense of you WEAK reasoning when confronted with what I...
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Re: Racism in the U.K and U.S.A: a comparison

maverick ·
Sorry Ive been away for a while. Huey, Yssys is right but let me add something here. Unlike in America blacks in the UK are actually not the largest minority. The Asians are and yet when you look at commercials and tv shows there are hardly any asian faces on them. There are also no asian footballers. I have already dismissed the notion that the reason they dont play football is due to them being physically weaker than black or white players since it crosses into Bell Curve territory.
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

Nmaginate ·
I doubt if that tells you about the "origin" of the word...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

ThaWatcher ·
Rules are rules....I don't agree with the new zone defense in the NBA, but if I don't abide by the rules, I can't play the game. It's a shame that people contain their religion in "things". I've seen muslims who don't wear a hijab...are they any less muslim? Is islam in your clothes or in your heart? Same thing with Christianity. Someone tells you that you can't wear a cross and they want to go to the supreme court..Wearing a cross doesn't make you a Christian (look at any rapper) and...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
Watcher?? What is your point? What are you saying that everyone must conform to NON-EDUCATIONAL rules? What does wearing hijab has to do with aquiring education? That's the "rules of the game" there! If her wearing the hijab interferes with the educational process then it is "breaking the rules"! Common sense. Is every Muslim suppose to dress alike? You're saying that since you know Muslims that don't ascribe significance to wearing the hijab should dictate what ALL Muslim do. It's not about...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

ThaWatcher ·
the problem here is this: the local gang member can say "you let the muslim girl wear a scarf but say I can't wear mine? that's not fair"...No hats in the building means no hats. If you need to wear a hat for any reason, then don't come into the building. They have dress codes in business and other places in society...so why not learn in school?
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
Where in the business world are Muslim women who choose to wear a hajib forced not to? Raise an intelligent issue will you... The crux of the rule is all about things that distract from the educational process. Hats really are immaterial. FYI... in case you couldn't figure it out, there are places in society and the business world where this is NOT an issue. So, kids should learn that too! They should learn that will live in a complex world with complex issues with people who are not...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
hmmm........
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
Are you that stupid naturally or are you just a "square" who can't even make a good jab? Those are two separate instances where [1] in the business world and [2] in the larger American society the right of Muslim women to wear their hijab is defended. Not as though you would or did, but if you read or had read ThaWatchers and my exchange you would know what those references were for. He made the comment that "rules are rules" and that school children should learn to conform to rules because...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
Quickly that's not what I'm saying at all... What I was trying to illustrate is that it - Islam - is so unique in it's practice (to my knowledge) that saying this is an example of "showing favor to a religion" to the exclusion of others is inaccurate, simplistic and devoid of understanding. I will remind you that the thread is about a School Dress Code... you interjected PRAYER. And any reference to Jewish head-dress in the source article was hypothetical and for all reality, case specific...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

sergeant ·
"the right of Muslim women to wear their hijab is defended" Seems the state of Florida disagrees, and about 4 other states have disallowed muslim women from wearing coverings that hide their features when taking photo ids or driver licenses photos. Also, when traffic officers stop a car they are lawfully justified in asking the women to remove the coverings as well. And I needn't remind you that the military could literally grab the veil and trash it if they so desired. In addition, your own...
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Re: Muslim girl suspended for head scarf

Nmaginate ·
That's a whole different issue entirely, IMO. It does in fact interfere with the nature of i.d./Driver's License processes... I haven't read all of your post but I don't have to in order to educate you on the difference! FIRST... you should know the CONTEXT in which something is said and considered the statements you think you have the intellect to attack within the TOTALITY of what someone has said and not aSSume that they are making sweeping statements. ALSO... You should know what a...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Melesi ·
Nmaginate, But people do take that attitude with me. Don't you? You think I'm wrong and have told me so in rather strong terms. So perhaps an answer to your question would begin with, "Just how have I responded to you?" We both think the other is wrong, and while we have said so bluntly, I don't recall our saying that the other is beyond redemption or unworthy of being considered human or anything like that. We certainly haven't tried to attack others who hold views like ours. You do have a...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Nmaginate ·
I'll take more time later... I don't think you're SATAN or that the beliefs that you have are wrong for you to have... or as an affront to mind. I essentially see and always have seen any principled believer in whatever faith as all the better for it because I see religion or rather true believers in any faith as fundamentally good people and good for society. As I see it we were having a debate over abstract concepts and I could care less whether you changed your beliefs or not. Nor will I...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Melesi ·
Hold on, Nmaginate, you're overunning your headlights. You've gone from dealing with the issue to ascribing motives. That's a personal attack and thereofre not helpful to our discussion. It's also beyond our subject. I have no idea what the Genral said beyond what you've printed here. I cannot speak to all that he said, and so it's not fair to commit teh genetic fallacy and say, "I see you agree with the General," and then go on to assume that I agree in all ways with him without actually...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Nmaginate ·
That's the problem. Yours is better therefore if someone really wants to know GOD they have to have yours. That's the problem with it. And all that personal attack stuff... you know I could careless... again you try to find anyway to say (eventhough you think it subtle) that yours is better. There's not correlation, Melesi. I think that anyone who claims to respect humanity yet reserves the privilege to feel "better" than someone else on any basis is not following any religious principle. If...
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Re: CHRISTIANS how do you expect to get along in this world thinking like this?

Nmaginate ·
Where is the HUMILITY in that statement? And what's up with the BLANKET JUDGEMENT? Everywhere a particular religion is practiced, e.g. Islam, DRACONIAN rituals or laws don't exist. STONING is in the Bible. DRACONIAN rituals are in the Bible... So what's you point? There are 2.5 African American orthodox Muslim in America and they neither believe in stoning nor do they treat women without due respect. Have you been blinded by the age and country inwhich you live? Christians in America partook...
 
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