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Re: A Dick with a Gun

Kweli4Real ·
"Uhmmm, Alex ... I'll take cover-up for a thousand, please." At the very least, it's an example of covering up incompetence.
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

Yemaya ·
Randall Robinson, an expatriate who moved to a Caribbean island, wrote a book about this topic called "Quitting America". It gives an insight about his life an that of his family since he has left the U.S. for a black nation. In my own personal opinion, I feel as if when we fought for integration we gave up a lot more for a little gain. The biggest thing that we got from integration is the fact that we can spend our money anywhere we want, the little bit of it we do have. However, when a...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
So, the South is growing faster economically. Does that necessarily mean the North is getting poorer? No, because there's not a fixed pie. Both regions can grow at the same time. In order for it to be zero sum, you'd have to prove that they cannot both grow at the same time . Good luck with that. First, who "isn't in the game"? Second, what losers are you talking about? People who lose their jobs? Resources shift and people gain and lose jobs. That alone does not make it a zero-sum game. In...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint. What you fail to consider is that everything is relative. Lets say that an area has a million residents and normative levels of population growth. Lets now say that there is little job growth, despite a growth in population. The net effect of that is that the economic health of the region is deteriorating, despite not losing any jobs, but because they are not gaining any jobs. This is why despite job growth under the Bush administration, his tenure is considered a poor performance...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
If free trade is so horrible, then why has Hong Kong, which has the most open economy in the world become richer than the nation that had colonized it(UK)? Maybe Noah should go tell them how they're being exploited. Why have tens of millions been lifted out of poverty in China since they opened up their economy and practice free trade in their special economic zones? Maybe Nmag should hurry up and tell them how free trade is just for white people. Why has the same happened for India? It is...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint, you seem to be a less intellectually worthy opponent than in the past, unless I am confusing you with someone else. First, do not put words in my mouth. I never made a pro or con argument in regards to free trade, my argument was against your denial of zero sums. The first thing that you need to note about Hong Kong is that it was a City-state, like Singapore. These small populations are easily turned around by direct foreign investment from large wealthy nations, pumping in...
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Re: African immigrants face bias from blacks

4YAINFO ·
From the above news posting it stands that those beatings or murders were based on ROBBERY and NOT ethnic hate crime. I've ofter wondered if AA's visiting any nation in Africa , the Caribbean or South America were attacked by the indigenious population would be reported as a regular street crime or as ethnic hate crime ?
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It really takes a true spin artist to take an unprecedented decrease in poverty and turn it into a bad thing. Unbelievable. It's sad that folks who sit here with all kinds of comforts are opposed to others striving for those same things. And suggesting that these folks would be better off with less choices... in a barter society? lol... now I remember why I got bored with this board a while back. Every rich nation started off poor like the nations I mentioned. They all had to develop and go...
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Re: Could You Handle Instant Wealth?

MidLifeMan ·
Rule a Country Test Centrist Democracy Your nation's freedom (58% overall): 69% civil rights, 61% economy, and 45% political. Inoffensive Centrist Democracy Civil Rights: Average Economy: Average Political Freedoms: Average This is the most common type of nation/government in NationStates. My test tracked 4 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender: You scored higher than 34% on civil_rights You scored higher than 66% on economy You scored higher than 10% on...
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Re: Could You Handle Instant Wealth?

Black Viking ·
Rule a Country Test My results... Social Democracy Your nation's freedom (55% overall): 69% civil rights, 33% economy, and 62% political. Democratic Socialists Civil Rights: Average Economy: Below average Political Freedoms: Average This is the second most common type of nation/government in NationStates. It also happens to be the nation category as the test author's Nationstates country, Stonecoast, who's flag is shown above.
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Re: Please, please read and digest

Faheem ·
The U.S. is still trying to flex its muscle towards Iran while China and Russia are using the U.S. arogance to their advantage. ========================== China-Iran Energy Talks Complicate Nuclear Standoff February 17, 2006; Page A6 China and Iran are trying to conclude a multibillion-dollar oil-and-gas deal in coming weeks, underscoring how China's appetite for energy could undermine Washington's efforts to isolate Iran. An agreement would seal a memorandum of understanding signed by China...
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Re: Please, please read and digest

Noah The African ·
This is serious stuff folks. Why would a nation stop publishing the total amount of money in circulation? One reason is that it wants to hide the fact that it is simply printing money to cover its debts, as opposed to paying its debts with tangible assets. Note also that this was not even reported in the news. Moreover, why does it make sense to have foreign banks holding much of the American debt? The answer is that when the default of the debt happens, it will not be American banks in...
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Re: Please, please read and digest

toussaint ·
This is one of the many reasons that central. government controlled banking should have been snuffed out early on in the nation's history. Also, allowing the government to get off of the gold standard gave them god-like control over our finances. For instance, if they want to take your money to shoot an Arab, buy someone's viagra, or pay for a bureaucrat's Starbucks they can either tax you directly or just print more money - a method which taxes your savings indirectly. The wars and the...
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Re: The Cost Of Slavery Was High. But Who Will Pay For It?

BanjiGirl ·
When it comes to reparations for black folks America will always come up with some excuse and nonsensical crap about what they don't owe us, etc, etc. Some of these same "white" folks are the survivors or descendants of the survivors of the Holocaust who feel that it is OK for THEM to receive financial renumeration but not for us. This attitude is basically the "fruits" of nearly 300 years of slavery- a legacy of devaluing the lives of black people. In other words they simply don't give a...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Funny how you wouldn't answer the very question that I put forth with regard to left-wing progressivism in our community AMONG BLACK PEOPLE. Here is my shot: The Black community has traditionally been bound by CULTURAL PRECEDENT. For the longest you had a mother and grandmother who warned against "Shacking" and who could read the character of a "date" that you brought home the very first time they met them. Economically, prior to our forefathers moving North we worked the land. There was a...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

MBM ·
What wing of the conservative movement is driving/running the Republican party and the over-all conservative agenda today? Is it so unreasonable to question those who support a movement which at its heart does and has promoted an agenda which is directly inimical to African America's interests? If it is an African American who is supporting that same Anti African American Agenda, then is it wrong to attempt to better understand that? A tree hugger is out to save a tree and the environment. A...
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Re: You Negroes Quit Whining, look how Oprah lives...which proves everything is fine

Nmaginate ·
It's the same rhetoric ignorant Black and White people (willed or innocently ignorant) use to try to deal with the Cognitive Dissonance or whatever the hell their malfunction is. Ummm... Excuse me Mr. Elders, but MLK never stopped "complaining about the poor conditions under which minorities lived." He's like the clueless and rationalizing Whites who didn't realize Dr. King had these types of things to say at those "inconvenient" and "impolite" moments: Elder needs to study King and give a...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

oddmodd ·
David Horowitz's is an idiot and anyone who adopts this ideology is an idiot. Black people of African decent are owe more money and restitution that America can afford. Every group from the Jews to Native Americans received some form of reparations for the devastating treament inflicted upon them by their attackers. African-Americans have never received a dime and up until the 1994 public apology by the Clinton Administration there has never a verbal condemnation on the part of the American...
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Texas Star ·
It starts: 09/08/05 "ICH" -- -- Neither the Mainstream media nor the alternative-Leftist web sites have told the true story of what really happened in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. For the people of the region it was the greatest natural catastrophe they'd ever faced. For the Bush administration it was just another opportunity to use fear and anarchy to advance their global agenda. The administration intentionally withheld desperately needed aid to the city to force Governor Kathleen...
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146 By George Esiri 2 hours, 2 minutes ago ONITSHA, Nigeria (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. ADVERTISEMENT Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

EbonyRose ·
OFF THE HOOK!!! I don't know how else to describe it!! Since I'm at a loss of words to do that, I'll address Yemaya's question! The only thing that wasn't shown on C-Span was the discussion with some of the economic panelists in kind of a question and answer session during lunch. I came in on the tail end of it as I went to eat lunch in my car and hurried back. But other than that C-SPAN stayed with us right to the end! It was a really small place and it was filled to capacity and they had...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

kresge ·
I don't have much to add to what ER has said. My wife and I were there for the last two sessions. I definitely think that the the "younger" folk did get the shaft with respect to time. Part of the problem was not only the amount of time taken up by the second group, but the delay in getting right to the panels after lunch, althought I think that it was important to have the survivors or "acheivers" of Hurricane Katrina share their stories as a frame for the discussion. With respect to...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

MBM ·
I think Belafonte misunderstood the point that Farrakhan was making about this. I think Belafonte thought Farrakhan was saying we should give up on America and stop voting or move out or some such consequence. Perhaps "Mr. B." felt Farrakhan was inferring some of the more "dramatic" courses of action that the Nation has supported in the past - armed insurrection, etc. Who knows? I think the minister meant that, as it is constructed now, our government and society are not going to be things...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

Nmaginate ·
I agree. I think both Mr. B and Cornell West rushed to pigeon-hole Farrakhan's comments which, while I thought they were a bit out of place, I didn't see them as substantively that far from the core attitude behind the Convenant Movement. There's an overriding sense and emphasis on self-help in both. Cornell West definitely wanted to act like Farrakhan was talking about a "separatist" nation or something. Maybe I took that wrong but that seems like where he was trying to take it to. And I...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Faheem ·
Empty Purnata, I would agree with you if the attitude of "I am an American" equaled racism. This attitude you speak about is not racist at all although it is jingoistic and rooted in an attempt by some Black folk to ensure they and their children are able to achive economic stability in this nation. The problem is they are focusing their energy at the wrong target, the target isn't the mexican man and woman it is those who seek to exploit them at our expense is the problem.
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

kresge ·
The Super Negro thing is a form of exceptionalism, that goes back centuries. It is similar to the exceptionalism often found among cultural or political black nationalist. While the later group often asserts that black folk are different, unique, or distinct culturally, socially, historically, or even biologically and thus need a "nation" of our own, the former understands black uniqueness as as somehow salvific for the world. Even before it appears in King, it is present in black culture...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

Nmaginate ·
I don't have any particular problems with it. It has its place but, most importantly, it has its proper proportion and applicability. Properly proportioned or applicable, relevant and realistic = the former. The latter is out-of-proportion. The former deals with the psychology the latter aims to combat while at the same time being realistic in its attempt to encourage, motivate or mobilize. It's done all the time when people invoke MLK and others "who died to give us..." the right to vote,...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

James Wesley Chester ·
Yemaya: I have always liked your signature. It certainly is true. Getting out of that 'prison' is proving to be the greatest bondage of our history. I see our loss of who we are. the loss of our identity, as the final bondage of that peculiar institution. kresge; I also hope we can rid ourselves of this perception that we are the savior of our oppressor, or the 'redemption of the nation'. Because this rhetoric is embedded in our religions, it extraction is going to be very difficult. A kind...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

Nmaginate ·
It has nothing to do with a lack of hope. It is a different orientation though. It's one that draws on a logical conclusion collected from a realistic acknowledgement of the history heretofore. And that orientation, though it expresses some of that same resentment, is still directed or come froms a very different place. But you've expressed why the Convenant as a political instrument, in and of itself, is somewhat of a Pipe Dream. Farrakhan's sentiment, however, comes from a self-help...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

James Wesley Chester ·
I am not even saying that it has to be a so-called African American party, but there I think it behooves black folk to "think outside of the box" in this respect.---kresge I heard all of Wade Henderson's presentation. What a waste. Smiley gave him almost a groveling introduction that was lauditory beyond Henderson's profile. His presentation sounded like a rally speech from 1062. That's one seat that could have been taken of the stage, OR better yet given to one the members of the 'Youth...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

kresge ·
Perhaps, but I think what Cornel was referring to is the reality of American hegemony. In light of this, can one be autonomous. I do not think so. We can talk about the economic resources of African Americans, but they are inextricably part of a network of political/economic power that Hardt and Negri refer to as Empire. This, again, is something I believe that nationalist do not understand. In a sense, the time of the nation state has passed. We have multinational corporation with earnings...
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Re: Movie: What If The SOUTH Had Won?

Empty Purnata ·
Wow, that does sound like an interesting movie! I think I might check it out now, you've tweaked my interest. I've wondered that same question before too, what would America be like if the Confederates won the War? Would the USA be divided in half along the Mason-Dixon Line? Would North America be Canada, the USA and the CSA? What would life be like for Blacks and other non-Whites in the CSA? What would the USA be like? Would the Confederation stay together? I have a feeling that even if the...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Rowe ·
I disagree. Natural meat eaters eat flesh raw. Accordingly, natural meat eaters have claws, sharp teeth, sweat through the mouth, have a short intenstine which is two thirds the length of their bodies (humans are 30 ft. long), their jaws move up and down only, and the stomach can digest hair. Humans lack all of these natural meat eating habits and attributes. Furthermore, the human intestinal tract causes meat to stay in the body for up to 3 days. This causes toxins to be aborbed in the body...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
Rowe.... Rowe.... Rowe.... Rowe..... My Sista...... We share soooo much..... I knew there was something about you I liked... Couldn't put my finger on it... Until now.... Just wanted to let you know I think you're right on point.... By the way.... Love your avatar.... Is that a Faith Ringold portrait? UNOI? You have a PM coming..... Peace, Virtue
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

bigddouble ·
Interesting commentary - I'd like to hear more regarding your opinion of the organization. From what I gather the socio-political purpose appears to be worthwhile. The religious aspects seem to be quite different from orthodox Islam (and even the Nation of Islam) however.
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
Just a note..... the UNOI is not NOI..... but as in all things there are many key similarities between all three....... I will not give my opinion here.... because you asked for Thayfen's opinion...... but there is a wealth of information in terms of people's opinions on the net and otherwise.... The best source is to listen or go for yourself.... not for recruitment.... but as in a lot of things in our community ...... people tend to latch on to a perception and simply feed themselves the...
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Melesi ·
A pity that you don't remember that we killed Malcolm X ourselves. What color was Talmadge Hayer? Malcolm had said that the Nation of Islam was out to kill him, and perhaps you saw the documentary on his life, "Brother Minister"? It included a secret recording of Louis Farrakhan saying that if they, the NOI, killed Malcolm, that wasn't anybody elese's business. So you're saying that Malcolm died for us even though we did the killing? You're substituting one Savior for another while...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

bigddouble ·
Agreed HB - People, please defend your position without setting up strawman arguments. What is wrong with HB's statements. How did NOI, UNOI, and the Five Percent Nation come to be? Disagreement in the methodology of acheiving a common goal. Unless you consider one or more of the following: Minister Farrakhan, Solomon (Royall), AND Clarence 13X (RIP) to be wrong, why challenge HonestBrother for having a different take? The concepts of service, unity, & protection may be used by a social...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
You must object to the above since you reject "control". Is there a way to protect and serve outside of control? Is there? I am a Fruit Of Islam serving in the Nation Of Islam. I cannot speak for other faiths, but I am certain that the NOI's doctrine is premised upon service, protection, and unity, among other things. What does Master Fard Muhammad have to do with this? I agree. Fortunately, the NOI makes no such claims. Kai
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
The idea here is that these groups promote service, unity and protection, and therefore should be applauded, not mocked. if you do not believe in the doctrine, fine, however, there is no wrong in respecting the good which has come from these groups. Honest Brother seems to promote the idea that we as the children of slavery should reject organization since being united and organized would mean being controlled in some way. If I can serve alone, can I not serve with 100 others of like mind?
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
Yes. NOI may be premised on service, protection, and unity AMONG OTHER IDEAS. Are you going to tell me that NO other ideas are involved? And as for Fard Muhammad: Can't you friggin read??? . One of the ideas in addition to service, protection, and unity is that this man is God. And that's from the official NOI website.
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Re: Mulatto Couple Produces Blonde, Blue Eyed White Child

UppityNegress ·
Zakar, are you a member of the Nation of Islam?
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

bigddouble ·
I'll rephrase, then leave it be if the question is still unclear: How can a man be a "god, creating whatever he desires" if he is following the structure created by another man? Elsewhere, you commented on the corporate world and the law of nation/state and that a man following the structure of these was essentially a "renter". How is the man following Min. W. Fard or Royall not a "renter as well?
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
My intention here was not general..... it was specific type of relationship..... ummm..... Man whose culture has systemically tried to break the Black Male down to nothing for centuries.... almost since his own time has recorded him on the planet.... I was simply saying...... this man rules.... and many are comfortable with it... because they see a place for themselves here..... Its this type of thinking that is a little distateful.... for what my definition of what a man should be.......
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Re: Mulatto Couple Produces Blonde, Blue Eyed White Child

ZAKAR ·
no im not a member of the Nation, but I study all black organizations, what does that have to do with this topic?
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Re: Conspiracy Theorists: What's With the Ports?

Noah The African ·
Well...one theory could be the logistical and strategically benefit of surrounding Iran in preparation for an attack on that nation. Iran can strangle the free flow of oil by blocking a key channel of water that is bordered by the UAE to the South and Iran to the North. Thus, If Iran is attacked; it could block or attack tankers carrying oil to the world, causing oil prices triple and sending world economies into recessions, if not depressions. Thus, if the USA had a strong military base and...
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Re: Abortion ban

Black Viking ·
I did not intend to imply that Rowe vs. Wade was a federal law. But, no JWC, states do not have the power to overturn the Supreme Court. The states can write any kind of ass backward law that they want. If the Supreme Court says it's unconstitutional, then that's it. And the same ruling applies all across the nation.
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Re: Conservative Forum Turns on Bush

EbonyRose ·
Actually, Jazzdog, the number has reached 5 ... believe it or not! This isn't the exact article I read last night, but it's pretty much the same info. I guess different reporters tell the story different ways. And for me, whether it actually "happens" or not would just be the icing on the cake!! Just to scare his azz up by a serious enough mention of it is good enough for me! Vermont towns endorse move to impeach Bush DAVID GRAM Associated Press NEWFANE, Vt. - In five Vermont communities, a...
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Re: Abortion ban

James Wesley Chester ·
---Black Viking We are agreed. States cannot overturn a decision of the Supreme Court, but rather must write new (State) law, of whatever quality. Rowe v. Wade is not the 'law of the land'. Abortion law is the law that is applicable in the respective States. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: I'm In Love With A Stripper?

HonestBrother ·
Ted Nugent - Wango Tango From the album "Scream Dream" All right! It's zee Wango, zee Tango 1-2-3-4 Come on boys Time to Wango My baby she like to rock My baby she like to roll My baby she can dance all night My baby got no control She do the Wango Tango My baby she can scream and shout My baby she can move it out My baby she can take a chance My baby got a brand new dance Wango Tango Wango Tango It's a Wango Tango Ooooh yeah! (oooooh..) Baby! My baby like to rock My baby like to roll My...
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