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Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women

RadioRaheem ·
Re: The Arrogance of Men and The Naivety of Women
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious....when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here......... My dad's barbershop ...byLarry Elder and personal responsibility -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: December 29, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: The following column...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Frenchy ·
Larry Elder was clearly kidnapped by the Secret Service and had a chip planted in his ass. Never have I seen a Black man tap dance so fast and furious for white folks. It's like he is reading directly from "The White Man's Guide to Talking Your Slave Out of Rising Up Against You." Nmaginate, Elder is no way speaking to any of us darkies. In truth, whether or not we accept him is of no consequence to him. He wants his white buddies to see this article, pat him on his monkey head, and toss him...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

nayo ·
ROTFLMAO!!!! p.s. I almost, fell for the Elder 'okidoke', until I heard his response to an African American woman (on his recently cancelled television show), who was opining about racism in the U.S. He asked her, why did'nt she just go 'back' to Africa if the racism was so bad here!! I could'nt believe it.
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
Sorry, I didn't communicate the point well enough. It's not just that poverty exists, its that because America utilized slavery, it denied poor and working class whites the opportunity to feed their families, earn income, and build wealth. Absent slavery there still would have been an American economy. America would have had to pay the poor and working class folks here. If we can acknowledge a connectivity between the wrong committed to slaves and their descendents today, is it also not...
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Re: Reparations and Poor Whites

MBM ·
To quantify it, if slave reparations are awarded in the amount of, say, $50 trillion - representing the unpaid wages from the slavery era compounded with interest, couldn't poor/working class whites also make a claim for that amount since they would have been the ones to earn those wages had not slaves been imported to do "their" jobs? I'm trying to explore what others think about the point. Is it valid and logical? As well, I'm interested in the implications of this. Does acknowledging this...
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

msprettygirl ·
thank you art_gurl for putting one gay guy in his place. England was very influential in the slave trade from the beginning, so that statement was just ignorant. one gay guy before you make a baseless statement like that you need to check the facts. Span and England in the slave trade: http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/students/his3487/lembrich/seminar51.html
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
Some other worthwhile - if depressing - reading is about John Hawkyns, who set sail from England on direct orders from Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth I, during the 1560's bound for the Guinea Coast. His mission: to round up Africans and ship them to the slave markets of Spanish America. According to Nick Hazelwood, who has a degree in history, John Hawkyns was the queen's personal slave trader, and England's first trafficker in the transatlantic trade. .
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the New and Old Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns slavery. If anything,...
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Re: Reparations & The LIGHT(er) SKINNED...

Isome ·
*sigh* This is tragic! *lol*
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Re: Reparations for Native Americans?

Nmaginate ·
While it's clear you wanted those to be two related questions, one clarifying the other... it's clear those are two separate questions with two different answers. As you've had to concede, Native Americans have, to some extent (even in a woefully inadequate sense) "received" Reparations. Evenso, it's clear Native Americans haven't been adequately compensated. That goes without saying especially since I've already said it. As to whether a Reparations victory for African-Americans would aid...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
What in the Bible forbids the owning of slaves?It's acknowledged as a practice in both the Old and New Testaments. And nothing I'm aware of forbids - or even condemns - the practice per se. You might argue that the Bible would enjoin Masters to treat their slaves well. But what forbids them from owning slaves to begin with? See the Pauline Epistle Philemon, in which an escaped slave is encouraged to return to his owner and the owner is entreated to be forgiving. Nothing there condemns...
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
Ignatius Sancho (1729-1780) (excerpts only) From African Slave to Composer & Author Born on a Slave Ship Near Guinea, West Africa Ignatius Sancho was one of the few Africans in 18th-century England to become a member of the middle class, highly literate and an amateur musician and composer. Birth Ignatius Sancho was born in 1729 on a British slave ship near Guinea, West Africa, enroute to the Spanish West Indies. He was orphaned in infancy. Ignatius Sancho: An African Man of Letters is a...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...
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Re: Remember The Past So As Never To Repeat It!

Dusty Elbow ·
It took quite an abyssmal imagination to create these depictions followed by relentless brutality of injustices. We dont see them but they are circulating in the world of someone's imagination. Just waiting for the time and place to erupt. Your thoughts become action. - 'wise' slave ancestor
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Re: Remember The Past So As Never To Repeat It!

FireFly ·
Yes, I've been to this site before and l learned a lot. IMHO, it's an especially good site to point white people to for a bit of education and perspective. Another thread that may be of interest is: Hannah Valentine and Lethe Jackson Slave Letters, 1837-1838 From the Campbell Family Papers An On-line Archival Collection Special Collections Library at Duke University http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/campbell/
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

Faheem ·
You have any proof that this is what she meant? I opined as you did that if she was talking about the Congress relationship with the masses of men and women in America as one of Slave and Master than she is not that far from the truth albeit the analogy still pales in comparison to what our ancestors lived through and that legacy should not be disrespected by equating it with realities far less inhumane.
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Re: House of Representative is like a Plantation...

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I can't see the difference in whether she said house of representatives, congress, supreme court, republican dominated political posts across the board, same difference; republican dominated and controlled and the neo-republican party is dominated and controlled by racist white southerners. But I guess you may have to have been born and raised in the south and know enough about southern history to know for a fact that post slavery, the south was...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Or rather by accepting "his place" and then trying to repackage that acceptance as a Morally Superior position. You know, as CON-Feed tries to prop up and infuse his one-sided "Interal Focus" idea as a positive and tries to disparage what he calls the effort "To Have White Folks Change" as a negative... as if his view is certifiably better, more focused, more concerned, more appropriate and more constructive and instructive towards the uplift and forward flow of the Black Community and its...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

MidLifeMan ·
I was blessed with 3 mothers – my mother and my two sisters. My oldest sister use to carry me around with her like I was her baby. Unfortunately, my fond memories are few due to the fact that my mother worked, and my sisters are much older and weren't around a lot when I was growing up. I only saw my mother's mother once a year if that. But the thing I love the most and admire the most is the strength of black women. I've watched my mother, sisters, and many other women for that matter, deal...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

HonestBrother ·
(1) Is this taking into account another 100 years of Jim Crow? (2) It's controversial exactly what Lincoln and the Union troops were sacrificing for - i.e., was it to end slavery or was it to preserve the Union? And there were also non-altruistic reasons for white northerners to oppose slavery. For example, many white northern industrialists feared that if the south industrialized that it would have a tremendous competitive advantage due to access to a huge pool of free slave labor. (3) But...
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Re: PBS: Slavery And the Making Of America

Dusty Elbow ·
Cautious about this series. It talks about the slave but not the slave master, what he or she was involved in. Those companies that seem to be the high talk HERE on africanamerica.org for REPARATIONS, etc. If I am a slave I want to know all I can about the habits of my master since I am obliged to serve him or her in mind, BODY [which this series website is all about in my opinion] and definitely not my soul. This series I have a feeling does not do that.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: PBS: African American Lives

Faheem ·
PBS TO OFFER SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH February 1 – February 28, 2006 Alexandria, VA - January 25, 2006 - From history to culture to drama to independent film, PBS features year-round programming both created by and about African Americans. In honor of Black History Month, PBS will broadcast a variety of new and encore presentations that celebrate the rich history of African Americans. The centerpiece for this month of special programs is a four-hour series by Henry Louis...
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Re: I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

Nmaginate ·
Where were the stereotype(s) about White people there Frenchy? At least try to be honest with your attempted dismissals. ____
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Re: Should God?

HeruStar ·
Kresge, I've got questions, and you've got answers that are always highly appreciated. Thanks for giving them freely. I've always wondered about the laws of the Deuteronomic code, and the absurdity of the laws of Leviticus. I gave myself a simple explanation (by all means please feel free to evaluate). Those laws applied to the Jews. The Jews were God's special project. There is no universalism implied in those laws and codes. The laws were more about God's (chosen) being held to and...
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Rowe ·
The Second Slave Era 2006: The Dismantling Of the African Mind One of the things that lead me to the education profession was my experience as a job-seeker. Whenever I attended job fairs, I noticed majority of the students applying for the higher-paying positions in fields that have the greatest impact on our world (i.e., computer science, engineering, technology, agriculture, biology, and natural sciences) were Whites, Asians, and foreign students from India. The Black students, however,...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Omega4ul ·
Freedom of Speech is one thing but DISRESPECT is another. I dont think the image deserves the riots and killings but I do think the images are insensitive and disrespectful. Many americans do not understand why this is a big deal. Black americans should be more understanding. If the Danish Press publish a cartoon of a black slave hanging from a tree with black 'urban thugs' pointing guns at him, with a caption that read "Bush's Dream come true".... I think my first respose would be to riot.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Black Viking ·
I agree. But I don't think they understand that violence inspires more violence. Shocking really, considering current global events. There are far more constructive ways of dealing with disrespect. As I said in an earlier post, if African-Americans blew something up or burned something down everytime we were disrespected there would be nothing left of America by now. I hope so... for their sake as well as ours.
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Re: The Best Environment for the Development of Our Potential....

James Wesley Chester ·
I believe that respect will nost greatly enhanced when we recognize ourselves, we Americans of unknown African ancestry, as the ethncity we are, and the ancestral nationality we have. African America. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: A film suggesting African Americans' embracing slavery - Manderlay

nayo ·
Yes, I have seen Dogville, Nicole Kidman was very good in this. Von triers attempt to twist the hegelian 'slave-master; dynamic is weirdly entertaining. His use of 'rape' as the methodology for the transformation of an independent consciousness, into a(n) dependent/interdependent consciousness is, different, But is'nt that what happened to the African, the rape of one people, powerfully and completely by another?
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ZAKAR ·
ALL THIS GOES BACK TO KNOWLEDGE OF SELF, IF WE REALIZE WE ARE AFRICAN PEOPLE AND APART OF THE GLOBAL AFRICAN COMMUNITY WE CAN SEE THAT WE COME IN ALL SHADES AND TEXTURES. SEEMS TO ME SOME BLACK PEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY ARE ALL PRO BLACK AND REVOLUTIONARY, BUT DEEP DOWN HARBOR RESENTMENT FOR BLACK PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY DARKSKINNED BLACK PEOPLE WITH STRONG FEATURES. IT GOES BACK TO "WILLY LYNCH". MANY LIGHTSKINNED BROTHERS AND SISTAS SUFFER TOO,BECAUSE OF THEIR LIGHTSKINNED FEATURES PEOPLE WOULD...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

BanjiGirl ·
First of all white people did NOT end slavery as an act of benevolence. They ended slavery when it was no longer profitable for them. By the 1830s plantation slavery was no longer profitable for slave masters. The new form of slavery "colonialism" was the new avenue of wealth. Mother England led the colonialization process. In other words enslave the "black bastards" in their native lands instead of spending good money to ship them to America to work impoverished plantations. Let them...
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Re: Haitian elections concern students

Isome ·
In order to get the US and France to stop invading and waging war, Haiti paid reparations to France for the loss of slave labor. It took a century to pay the debt, but they did it. The current election outcome is being challenged by the sole white candidate who just HAPPENS to be someone who backed the GANG of 184 (the US armed & funded former TonTon Macoutes, FRAPH and Duvalier associates) who were the front men of the coup that ousted Aristide.
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Re: David Irving Arrested For 'Denying Holocaust'

jazzdog ·
Its not about being self-delusional, its about taking away that one thing that Jews love to put up in everybodys face which is the holocaust. I'm sure that I will be branded anti-semitic, but its tiresome to hear about 6 million dead while completely ignoring the 100 million or more dead africans from the slave trade. How is it that Europe will screech about freedom of the press to print cartoons about the prophet Muhammed and then step on this guys right to express his counterviews about...
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Re: David Irving Arrested For 'Denying Holocaust'

Faheem ·
Jazzdog you, you, you Anti-semite Ok.... One of the things that I find amazing is the world wide acceptance that six million people actually died or was killed. There is so much evidence that six million people did not die that this very ideal seem preposterous, but so many people have been bombarded with images and verbal accounts of what happen that they do not investigate the Holocaust themselves. Nine out of Ten people who believe six million people died I bet have never read anything to...
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Re: David Irving Arrested For 'Denying Holocaust'

jazzdog ·
I'm sorry! does this mean I have to go to sensitivity training or will I just have my freedom to voice my opinion smashed and tramped on. Being a reader of history and especially military history there are documented accounts, some of them provided by the Nazis themselves of the numbers of persons, just not Jews that were transported and killed in concentration camps. While the numbers are straggling you are right in that I don't think that a full analysis of the numbers has ever been...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

oddmodd ·
David Horowitz's is an idiot and anyone who adopts this ideology is an idiot. Black people of African decent are owe more money and restitution that America can afford. Every group from the Jews to Native Americans received some form of reparations for the devastating treament inflicted upon them by their attackers. African-Americans have never received a dime and up until the 1994 public apology by the Clinton Administration there has never a verbal condemnation on the part of the American...
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Re: People Don't Throw This In Jews Face...

Nmaginate ·
I brought this up because of another conversation I'm having elsewhere that centers around Jews/Holocaust. While surfin' I came across the above information and was reminded of this statement by Maulana Karenga addressing the topic of Reparations for African-Americans and the idea that there were Africans or Blacks who collaborated with the Slave Trade, etc. Every holocaust had collaborators: the Native Americans, Jews, Australoids, Armenians and Africans. No one morally sensitive claims...
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Re: People Don't Throw This In Jews Face...

Yemaya ·
Ok Africans may have been involved in the slave trade, but who committed the crimes against us? Who raped, tortured, molested, made us mentally into slaves, murdered us at will, lynched us, economically, socially kept us at a large disadvantage, systematically disconnected us from our original languages, culture, religions and African heritage? It wasn't Africans. We need to recognize that, first and foremost. How many native africans in America owned slaves and treated them like whites did?
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

ZAKAR ·
We talk about economies going down if something happens to america, but because of americas economy many countries are forced to be poor. They are not allowed to put their goods on the global market and Africa for instance only participate in about 2% of global trade. So while it good times for european nations its hell for the poor countries of the World. What I think Minister Farakan was saying basically is lets be self sufficient create our own institutions sustain our own selves so that...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Oshun Auset ·
Wow, Thanks for letting me know that you have been completely duped by the Eurocentric White supremacist educational system and their(the enemies) version of his-story. Yah, Greeks the ONLY rational culture...lol, now that's crazy!!! You really need to read more African authors. KMT was invaded and X-tianity guaranteed that it's temples and religion/philosophies were sacked and burned(after heavily being plagerized). Remember how the Moore's had to bring 'Greek' enlightenment to Europe...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
It disturbs me that on every side I see * systems of control * on the rise: systems meant to keep us under control: whether that be the prison industrial complex, the military industrial complex, or these loopy religious movements: it's the same thing... And what's much worse is that we're willingly running into the arms of those same systems... Even if one resists - as I do - to make matters worse, our own women are demanding we submit to this control in some form or other... As descendants...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

bigddouble ·
I have read on UNOI thayfen & virtue - I wasn't looking for a primer from either of you - just further elaboration on earlier statements. Too many people make matters of faith untouchable in critical discussion. If anyone here is too sensitive to participate in this portion of the discussion, he/she can willingly bow out. All opinions are welcome. virtue- Do you think this: is a fair statement? Are you suggesting that UNOI (or similiar groups) is the only way to acquire "structure or an...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
We should all wish for systems of control. It is not control which is the problem, it is control which runs contrary to the natural desires of those striving to be civilized, which creats the problem. Humanity has always created law, and enforcement agencies to ensure security. Are you not under the control of America? Are you not happy to know that someone in this nations seeks to control the crime rate? You want control... Also are you suggesting that the NOI is part of the group of "Loopy...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Melesi ·
oshun, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Thanks for letting me know that you have been completely duped by the Eurocentric White supremacist educational system and their(the enemies) version of his-story ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Um, you're welcome? Come, oshun, this is not an answer. An answer would be to show that the Egyptians thought as the Greeks did only earlier. It would have to be so for there to be something Egyptian for the Greeks to steal. There's no evidence that the Egyptians had...
 
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