Tagged With "Racist "Christians""

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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
Yes. NOI may be premised on service, protection, and unity AMONG OTHER IDEAS. Are you going to tell me that NO other ideas are involved? And as for Fard Muhammad: Can't you friggin read??? . One of the ideas in addition to service, protection, and unity is that this man is God. And that's from the official NOI website.
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Re: The Dual Theology Heresy of John Hagee!!!

BOMANI ·
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hagee.htm JOHN HAGEE Who is this Man? JOHN HAGEE IN CHARISMATIC ORBIT- Dr. John Hagee is a bestselling author and pastor of the 17,000-member charismatic Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. He was an NRB '98 speaker and has an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University. He is pictured in the 8/00 Charisma-along with Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, and Kenneth Copeland-as a speaker for Creflo Dollar's International Covenant Ministries...
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Re: What is Egungun

Fine ·
Yes, Oshun! the people of Yoruba "are" on a metaphysical level that would scare most Christians. Thanks for the post!
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Re: Soul Singer Isaac Hayes Quits 'South Park'

ma'am ·
That's what ran through my head when I first heard the news.
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Re: Soul Singer Isaac Hayes Quits 'South Park'

HonestBrother ·
Actually I always enjoyed the show ridiculing religion - IMHO, it's religious irreverence is the one redeeming quality of this show... What I couldn't understand was how Isaac Hayes (great musician that he is) could tolerate playing the show's only regular black character - one that I always saw as somewhat buffoonish. One episode that bothered me in particular had this character drooling over the lily white Cathy Lee Gifford - it just seemed so stereotypical the way this scenario was...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Yemaya ·
I may come off sounding cocky or condescending here, but I'm going to say it anyway. If you read, the Bible and how much of "Jewish" history takes place in Eastern Africa, how much influence Eastern African culture has in "Jewish" culture it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the word Amen is in fact Aharmaic (sp?)and is the name is that of a great Pharoah. Even a child can surmise this is presented with the facts. I wonder what people would do if they knew that everytime...
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

FireFly ·
I certainly think that is what George Bush believes... particularly after viewing a doco about George and his 'dialogue with God'. I'm not a christian, and I'm white, but I do think that some white people's christian smugness and exclusivity of everyone non-christian is indicative of what they believe as a life-time guarantee with God. In some perverse minds, that seems to mean that they are superior to everyone, have matyr-like status, and have some sort of 'spiritual insurance policy'...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
No scholar (outside of mathematics) proves anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. You can only put forth the best case possible. And then hope it survives peer review and contradictory evidence. But I will check out Cheik Anti Diop... Because I am interested in knowing all the evidence. No... by no means whatsoever am I claiming to be the only intellectual on the board.... but I do take it personally when "intellectuals" as a group are indiscriminately attacked. Black intellectuals - those who...
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

Huey ·
I think over 90% of White Christians worldwide would become atheists overnight and denounce Christianity. It'll be a domino effect of a mental breakdown of "Biblical proportions" if that ever happened. Maybe not 90%, but those who use the Bible as a carte blanche to justify their racist deeds.
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

Khalliqa ·
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

FireFly ·
yep... and hazard a guess which lovely lady with on this board would be selling tickets to this monumental event? and yes, I've booked mine in advance
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Re: Whitewashing the 10 Commandments

Fine ·
Report just in: There will be no second coming There will be no rapture and being "saved" -- a precursor to salvation -- will not wipe out "original sin" -- since it's all a myth in the lying lore of racism christianity...!
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
As long as we're going to cover our ears and just shout past one another repeating ourselves It's this sorta back and forth crap over nothing that leads to us never having anything... amen.... amen... a few scraps of syllables on a page ... and what makes it worse is that its function in Hebrew is mostly trivial. It's basically a period... Whatever... Obviously my contributions are not welcome on this thread....
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

ebonygoddess ·
It sounds like you all are talking about some kind of radical christian cult. I am a christian but i still believe,along with any other friend or famliy member of mine, that everyone has a right to their own beliefs. This world is full of many different cultures and all religions and cultures should be respected. I have heard of these radical christians who believe that if you dont think and have the same beliefs as they do that you will go to hell or you are affiliated with satan. I...
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

Rowe ·
For sure, but my sister has made it clear to me on several occasions that she is in fact not a Christian. She's a "faithist." Faithist follow The Oashpe Bible (refer to post on The Oashpe Bible written by John Newbrough). Thank you for reading.
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Re: Untitled--Just Disappointed and Upset

Melesi ·
Sadly, even though we might be Christians (we Christians, that is--I'm one), we are neither perfect nor unbound by our culture. The imperfections run deep. We forget that because of our concentration on salvation and overcoming, to the lessening of our humility. If we would remember that we are to "repent and be baptized,' that we are to "do as I [Jesus is speaking here] say," and that we are yet sinners even though we are saved, we would do a lot better. The Young White Male, for example,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
Melesi, sorry I did not get back to this sooner, what can I say, I was on trial and got distracted. Suffice it to say, I cannot stand next to Dick Cheney [whatever the spelling is] because he is a racist that calls himself a Christian like Bush and I cannot agree with what they have done in the name of Jesus or my God. The God that I pray to clearly is not whom they pray to yet we both use the term Christian.
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Re: Incentives

HonestBrother ·
I hear ya, EP... But it's a common occurrence... The same thing happens for example when Christians claim Islam is a violent religion... people always want to see their own belief system in the best light possible. For the record, the following is pure white man Enlightenment mythology: People are rational
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Fine ·
I too, cringe, HeruStar! It is true -- "Greek misinterpretation" does in fact have e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g off track -- in general -- and the true meaning of the work A-M-E-N -- in particular. Greeks knew nothing about the true essence of "Black Antiquity" -- and to this day they still don't want to know or care to know. They are copycat counterfeiters-in-denial of the truth/facts. In fact, the root of this very book [i.e. "basic instructions before leaving earth - the Bible] has its origin in...
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Re: Incentives

Kweli4Real ·
But mostly I find this phenomena in conservative/fundamentalist circles, where members are discouraged from questioning the "facts" that are presented and rewarded for rote recitation of, if not adherence to, the dogma.
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Former Member ·
HonestBrother, thank you for your opinion and dialogue. It challenges me to dig deep into my mental reservoir of facts that I have studied and researched for a number of years. I'm not here to argue or belittle anyone's belief or opinion. I'm a man of facts and I'm only posting the facts that have been discovered by many and my conclusion to what I feel those facts are. You brought up some very interesting points and yet have me a little confused on some of the nature of your questions.
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

HonestBrother ·
ntellect, in your response to me, you told me a lot of stuff that I already knew or had heard of... My essential point was that finding a (possible) reference to an Egyptian god in the very last book of the Bible does not prove that the word "Amen" is of Egyptian origin nor does it prove that Christians are evoking an Egyptian deity. And it's quite a stretch to use one verse in one of the last written Biblical books to prove something about a word that occurs in other books written centuries...
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Re: Presbyterians' new words for Trinity

Empty Purnata ·
I remember this church (I think it was a Liberal Catholic Church parish) who taught that the Trinity was composed of three members of the Godhead each having a masculine and feminine side. God the Mother was the feminine side of God the Father, God the Daughter was the feminine side of God the Son, and God the Holy Soul was the feminine side of God the Holy Spirit. They believed that the Godhead itself is neutral and these genderal energies are simply modes of the Godhead. This will surprise...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Melesi ·
Namginate, Thank you for making my point. I answered reasonably to you, and you do nothing but respond with a superior attiude that hears nothing, learns nothing, knows nothing. How is "Sorry MBM, but this guy just will not argue reasonably" a plea? What did I plead with MBM to do? IT was a statement and a reason for stopping my thread with you before--and for the same reason as I do now. I pay you the respect of taking you seriously, I place us together in the same humanity (thus the "we"...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Nmaginate ·
That's some major !!! And you know it!!! Where is the general human application of the word "we" in that?? "Not everything WE do needs to uphold Biblical tradition." Why in the world am I to believe that the Bible, its traditions and the practices that come from it are suppose to be relevant to human beings in general and my self in particular if I (along with plenty other human beings) do not recognize the Bible the way you do? That's the definition of a WEASEL!!! You know what you said was...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Melesi ·
henry, Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say that sinful humans have the right or freedom to do what they want. When I said "we" I was talking about Christians.Context, henry, context. You are You are good with words, but you are terrible with meanings. Everyone has the ability to do as they please, but that doesn't make it right. When Christians set out to obey God, they will do things a little differntly, and that's ok. Anything else is a legalism that Paul takes to task in Galatians...
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Nmaginate ·
Man.... Henry, I hope you can keep up! I'm having a hard time telling who and what the context is because LYING Melesi changes like a chameleon! Illustrate the CONTEXT that you claim says one thing... YOU know you only do that because we say it means another. You will say anything even resort to LYING just so you won't get caught in your Lame Reasoning MELESI! YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT HONESTY because you are a BOLDFACED LIAR!!
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Re: Is Christmas Christian?

Nmaginate ·
Are you talking about CHRISTIANS or HUMANS in general MELESI when you use the article "we"??? And if it's all about context... Layout the context and prove unequivocally what you say... what you say... it means after-the-fact! If you were completely HONEST there would not be such a repeated need to clarify.
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Re: 9/11 - The Anniversary, The Legacy

Oshun ·
I think the legacy of 9/11 will be white hatred against non-whites, non-christians, and will ultimately lead to continued disdain of Americans around the world.
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

Norland ·
How can you FOUND a country that already has inhabitants? Christian white males came here? I thought England let loose her criminaly insane to come here and go to Austrailia to inflict havoc upon the Aboriginines there. What is a Christian white male anyway? A fantasy in my book. No one on this earth that can do sooo much killing and hating of other people just because they don't look like them or act in the manner they do can call themselves CHRISTIANS. SATAN maybe. [This message was edited...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

sergeant ·
"but nobody throughout history did what the first Americans did. It is unprecedented." You seem like a nice man, but your statement is UTTER nonsense. Why was the great wall of china built, for example? That is but one of millions of examples of what people have done to people throughout human existance. And get this, the 'monguls' of northern asia, the very same people some of whom later migrated into North America, whom we now call 'native americans', are you familiar with the history of...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

whatzgoingon ·
Sergeant, If you truly want honest dialogue, you need to be honest and stop telling us you are a "brother" I went back and read your posts, and your conservative style of egocentrism is screaming white male. Don't mean to be stereotypical, but you don't attempt to hide it. When you said you were a brother, it really threw me from a loop. It is insulting to the intelligence of the black community to expect that every black person would exhibit the same behaviors and hold the same opinion on...
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Re: Bishop T.D. Jakes

Huey ·
Where does the line ends or begins where Christians desire to be prosperous to use their wealth to help others, and where it ends to use God as some cash register/lottery ticket?
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
You still attach the moniker of 'christian' to your name. You have not changed enough of your mind. Nor have you realized or fully comprehended your spirituality. The misconception of yours is that christianity is valid. You believe it to be, I have no misconceptions about that at all. I mentioned Genesis because one word in there could be translated as 'became' instead of 'was'. Then the fossil records would make perfect sense, and be reconciled with the idea of 'God' at the same time.
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

Huey ·
MBM, Nmaginate, T.D. Jakes' morning program, "The Potter's House," had a great program yesterday about the slave trade and had this couple, the Pettys, had over hundreds of slave artifacts, proving that slavery was condoned by the church. Let's be honest, there are still people in this world, particularly Christians, who believe that black people are cursed.
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Re: Christian ORIGIN of RACISM!

Nmaginate ·
My beef with Sheba, Oddly enough, it's entertainment. I appreciate the No-Holds Barred or at least the endless point-and-counterpoint nature of it. I had full intentions on keeping this topic and others like it in the "Q" ("?"). I used Sheba's name specifically because I was directing all my comments to her and her ideas about Christianity and how the Church wasn't complicit in slavery. That has nothing to do with whether or not I respect Christians or the teachings... just not Sheba's...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
Let me tell you why I despise christianity. Aproximately 2 billion people consider themselves 'christian'. That's 1/3 of the world's population. One third of the world's people believe in the compassion of Jesus and the selflessness of Godly Love. How many national leaders consider themselves 'christian'? How many puplic officials consider themselves 'christian'? How many of the rich and famous believe in the 'christian god', bearing a cross as a representation of their 'faith'? I despise...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
Maybe you should instead be asking me 'why' all 'this'. One word: christians. There are 'signs and wonders' all over the place but the blind and deaf are all over the place too. How long have people been seeing 'signs' in the sky? How long have there been 'wonders' in the 'heavens'? How long have their been Wars and Rumors of wars? How long has there been earthquakes in 'divers' places? How many suffering deaths from Famine? Pestilence? Starvation? The answers to your questions are right...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
soul_doctor, Well, finally something that we agree on. It's also something that Jesus said along time ago, so for all your hatred of Christians--and not all misplaced, by the way--in some ways you are actually agreeing with Jesus. Should you want to destroy that which agrees with you? Now, I think that you are a little broad with your brush-strokes, for the problems that you mention are not caused by Christianity but by humanity. To get rid of the problems, you'll have to get rid of people.
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Kweli4Real ·
I, and any Christian, would readily acknowledge that there are plenty of charlatans preaching false doctrine, while enriching themselves. There always has been and always will be those that will cloak themselves in whatever belief system that they believe will get them rich. But those are not Christians of truth and faith. Those are thieves, who will get their's in the end. As you note, at death wealth and riches are of no import. You simply can't lump those that claim christianity, in order...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
Melesi: If Christianity were not over 1700 years old, everything you said would be moot. There would be no argument. But you miss the point. Your church and your pastor settles nothing for me. My grandfather is a pastor and my father is his assitant. I grew up in that church. I grew up in a christian family and they are all still christians. They are typical christians. Full of talk. No action. And that is the problem with christians, they just talk. It's not Jesus' fault. It's not the...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
soul_doctor, Well, I'm not worried about an earth-grazing comet. Comets are too small and too low in density to have a significan gravity compared to the earth. One passing by cannot "wreak havoc" on the earth. Comets range in size from 1 to 100 kilometers (and there's only one of those that we know of--Chiron. A nucleus of 5 kilometers is on the large size for comets. Most of them are smaller than that) and their mass is something around tens to hundreds of billions of times less than that...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
I also said 'meteor'. Where are you calculations for that? Further, I wasn't talking to *you* about this in the first place. Someone *asked* about 'signs'. I gave them one. As for 'bible codes' and what you 'refuse to believe', have you read the 'apocryphal Jesus'? Or do you 'refuse' to beleive that too because 'Jesus' didn't say they were *his* words? Or do you refuse to believe it because the catholics didn't put it in your christian bible? Stick to *your* own subject, Melesi, this one is...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
Alright Melesi, let's reason then. Last night I watched a show on the History Channel called Almanac. It was about the Christian Crusades. Did you see it? I mention this because I hope that many christians did watch that show to see what it was they are descended from. See, what you believe as 'truth' your christian forebearers used to force upon others. For instance, if you didn't agree with 'Jesus is Lord' you were a 'heretic'. They burned many people alive and tortured many more just so...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
This is why it is so hard to 'reason' with christians. I specifically asked those specific questions concerning a specific prophecy, i.e. the Messiah of Israel, whom christians *claim* to be Jesus. The Church *claims* to be 'gods' construct. But the truth is, the church was envisioned, organized, and built by men. Men who have further provided christians such as yourself with a 'guide' by which they are to 'worship' in *their* 'authorized' Church. Also, in keeping with christian concepts,...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
Soul_doctor, You did not ask "specific questions concerning a specific prophecy." You asked about poverty and suffering and the existence of evil. You asked why these things exist and why the Church has committed sins and errors "If Jesus is the Messiah?" My answer to you stated that the questions had nothing to do with the question of Jesus being the Messiah. They had everything to do with human free will. You didn't ask about "specific prophecies." You see why I have to ask you more than...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
As long as this is, your first comment makes me want to stop right now and skip to the end. If you are a christian, you should be very well aware of the prophecy of the Messiah of Israel. In a previous post I mentioned to you that the Messiah of Israel would herald the end of war, poverty, suffering, etc. etc... That is what the OT says. This is what I meant by 'specific'. Maybe you just forgot these 'specifics' concerning Israel. But since you are not *dealing* with Israel, it makes perfect...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
You coward. You don't "tire" of it. You simply have no logical, reasonable answer. You twist and distort and misunderstand, and when the facts are against you, you run. No wonder you have a double standard when it comes ot Christians. You aren't thinking. I asked you to ask a single question so we could deal with it. You asked more than that, but not one of them was about a "prophecy." Now you say that the prophecy is more important than that, and that I must have forgotten this important...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
Melesi: Your post, in it's entirety, implies that your perspective is flawless. As an example: 'You didn't ask about "specific prophecies."; 'You are treating Christians as racists treat us--as a single group. You're demanding that every Christian be "a credit to his race."; That's religious profiling.'; 'Let me make it clearer for you--there will never be perfection in this life, not anywhere, not any time.' What do you know about me? Other than your negative perception of me? Am I *not*...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

soul_doctor73 ·
So quick to jump to conclusions. Let's see how far you jump after reading my reply to your post. Cry FREEDOM Freedom Revolution to Establish the Egalitarian Deporment Of Mankind.
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