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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Faheem ·
This article only solidifies in my mind how far ahead of the curve Jawanza Kunjufu really is. He has stated everything in this article but stated it much better in more relevant terminology as well. I just got his latest book this week entitled, Hip Hop Street Curriculum , this book is like a work book, I have only glanced through it so far but this weekend I should get a chance to read it. Here is a summary of the book... Refuting the myths that black youth are unable to excel at academics...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Nmaginate ·
And that has what to do with your earlier comments which you have now, curiously, abandoned? You know, the point where you had to admit that there is no merit-based system in education (Are all grade schools equal?): "Being acccepted to Michigan or UCLA... should be based on [merit]." SHOULD BE but it isn't and you're not even close to demonstrating that you actually believe in "merit". If so, you wouldn't be so selective in your outrage over Affirmative Action. Selective to the point of...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Valley Traditional High School is in the middle of a racial controversy. A teacher used a racial epithet towards a student. The word is only six letters long but the impact is far reaching. We do want to warn you that some of the language in this story is strong and may offend some people, but since this story is not just about the "n" word it's also about the pronunciation, we've decided to leave it in the story for you to decide. Murphy: "What did he say to you specifically?" Chavers: "Sit...
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Rowe ·
Granted Kunjufu should be credited for making education more accesible to Black students and helping us to better understand the academic and social needs of Black students; however, Claude Steele, trained as a social psychologist, is interested in investigating the ways in which racism and stereotypes, particularly the stereotype that says "Blacks are intellectually inferior" has influenced Black students' attitudes toward education and their competence as students. This fall, I attended a...
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Rowe ·
The Second Slave Era 2006: The Dismantling Of the African Mind One of the things that lead me to the education profession was my experience as a job-seeker. Whenever I attended job fairs, I noticed majority of the students applying for the higher-paying positions in fields that have the greatest impact on our world (i.e., computer science, engineering, technology, agriculture, biology, and natural sciences) were Whites, Asians, and foreign students from India. The Black students, however,...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Activists keep alive memory of Iowa's civil-rights pioneers Fifty years ago, three blacks facing discrimination said enough was enough Edna Griffin challenged prejudice 50 years ago by asking to be served at the Katz Drug Store in downtown Des Moines. A year later she and two other blacks had their right to equal service affirmed. It was a watershed event in the civil-rights movement. By SHIRLEY SALEMY REGISTER STAFF WRITER Originally published 6/21/1998 On a hot summer afternoon, two Des...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Marking a civil-rights victory D.M. honors those who fought, won Edna Griffin sits amid friends and family at the site of Des Moines' former Katz Drug Store, where she was denied service 50 years ago because of her skin color. By SHIRLEY SALEMY REGISTER STAFF WRITER Originally published 7/8/1998 Fifty years after being denied service at a downtown drugstore soda fountain because of the color of their skin, Des Moines civil-rights pioneers were honored Tuesday with proclamations, a plaque -...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
Edna Griffin did the right thing By REKHA BASU REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published 1/26/1998 Before institutional memory has faded, and the 88-year-old's time is over, Des Moines should erect a monument to Edna Griffin. Chances are you don't know Griffin's name. No building or street carries it. Iowa schoolchildren don't learn it when they study the civil rights movement. And when lifetime Service Awards bearing the name of Martin Luther King Jr. were handed out to the governor and four...
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Re: Edna Griffin: The Rosa Parks of Iowa

ricardomath ·
A comrade remembers Griffin's fight for equality By ROB BORSELLINO REGISTER COLUMNIST Originally published on 2/10/2000 Word came down Tuesday that Edna Griffin was dead, and that got John Bibbs thinking. His mind wandered back to the summer of '48. He was 22, four years out of Tech High School and just back from the Navy, an experience he remembers as highly racist. "I was called nigger and everything else. I got five days in the brig for speaking up about that." Back in Des Moines, Bibbs...
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Re: Poor Children Can Learn

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Sweetwuzzy: I am not sure where you live but I ask that you do research on KIPP ACADEMY. They are charter schools that specifically target POOR, BLACK COMMUNITIES. They are a structured environment for education. They ASK SOMETHING OF THE PARENTS, STUDENTS AND TEACHERS. They have had a certain level of success in turning things around for poor families.
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Rowe ·
You know people believe that teachers are invincible to the societal ills of our world, but teachers have been subjected and exposed to the same ignorance about the limited intellectual competency of Blacks as everyone else. And they bring this ignorance, either consciously or subconsciously, into the school and classroom. Growing up in the gritty parts of DC, for example, it was never once required for me (or any of my classmates) to take courses in Chemistry, Physics, Biology or Calculus.
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

Rowe ·
I've only given a brief description of Dr. Steele's research. His research is much more complex than what's been discussed here. However, keep in mind that Dr. Steeele is a social psychologist. His work has been heavily influenced by scholars such as Kenneth Clarke, Jonathan Kozol, Amin Maalouf, and Daryl Scott, author of Contempt and Pity (1997). He has also co-written a book with Dr. Asa Hillard entitled Young, Gifted, and Black: Promoting High Achievement Among African American Students...
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Re: Claude Steele Discusses How Group Stereotypes Can Influence Intellectual Performance

James Wesley Chester ·
He, like many other educational scholars are interested in discovering what is preventing Black students from excelling in academic environments, and more importantly, identifying with academic excellence.---Rowe I read your last post. It is incredible that a school, with primary administration by African American-Americans, would not actively encourage all students to take what used to be called 'the academic' (college preparatory) course. The words that would set off the few African...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

kresge ·
Like Black Viking, I am not anti-PC, but I am anti-censorship. Whether or not I find the comic offensive, I think that a publication has the right to print it and I believe that individuals have the right to protest against it non-violently. I support their right to censure (express harsh criticism of the picture) but not to censor (control the press, speech, artistic expression). Free expression to my mind is integral to democratic society. Personal anecdote: I was a chaplain in NYC when...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Faheem ·
This is one of the problems with Western Media and its Johnny come lately reporting and its refusal to state truth when it is widely known. Most men and women in America and some of you on this forum believe that these protest just started a few weeks ago, and started off violently. These cartoons as most articles have noted were first published in September, the protest against these cartoons began then. The protest were all peaceful, the Danish Muslim community wrote letters, Muslim...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Nmaginate ·
And that's the rub as they say. Also, there is nothing comparable in terms of Christian symbols, as KRESGE suggested. Considering what KRESGE said, what's to come of this: I support their right to censure (express harsh criticism of the picture) but not to censor (control the press, speech, artistic expression). Free expression to my mind is integral to democratic society. So, basically, people are allowed to completely, purposely and repeatedly desecrate and violate everything that's sacred...
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Vox ·
Doesn't change anything for me. I'm not going to pretend to understand this mindset. And I think Kresge is right, that the newspapers aren't beyond reproach. But just because the European media was intransigent in their response to boycotts and protests, doesn't lead me to think violence is in any way a justifiable next resort for the aggrieved. And like I said, in this case it's even stupider IMO, in the face of the subject matter of the cartoon.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Black Viking ·
Yes, my response is the same. It is not OK for them to blow things up over a picture, just because they did not get the response that they wanted. It's good that the muslim community tried peaceful protest. That does not mean that anyone else has to bend over backwards just because they don't approve. No one commited violence on them. There violent response is unacceptable. This is the kind of shit that starts wars over nothing.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

Empty Purnata ·
And this kind of shit is unacceptable as well. http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/79160213/m/8001048173 Hypocrisy, double standards, and "freedom of speech" rhetoric.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

UppityNegress ·
The cartoons were originally commisioned to test the boundaries of free speech in Denmark. An ethnically Danish author who was writing a pro-Muslim children's book on Islam, couldn't find anyone to illustrate it for fear of violence and persecution from the Muslims in Denmark. He questioned whether political correctness in regards to Muslims was hindering free speech in the country. The newspaper drawings were meant as a test--granted, a rather childish one. The smarter option would have...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

UppityNegress ·
In this day in age, yes I do think American Christians would be more "civil" about it, and considering how secular western Europe has become I'd question whether it would even make a dent outside of religious circles. Will they [Christians, esp. white] raise a fuss? Of course. Will they be super pissed? That goes without saying. Protest? Sure. Threats to actually kill other people, burn down the newspaper facility, and encourage others into suicide missions? You'll be hard pressed to find...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
It's actually fairly obvious what the most probable situation was. "Nigga" is an widely used slang word amongst non-racist teenagers, I know because I am a teenager. I for one do not have any trouble believing that this word is in frequent use by students in the class in question. In that case, to use the word in a mocking manner, to critique the language which is often coupled with a specific attitude, one which requires teachers to have to remind students to do simple tasks like sitting...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
Any english teacher knows that "LANGUAGE" is a dynamic syntax, and also that ideas are the essence of communication. Put simply, that means that whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be, that's what the word means in that conversation. If both parties concieve "nigga" as an informal form of address, then that's what it means in that conversation, DESPITE ANY OUTSIDERS OPINION! This means that the student saying "nigga" first would justify the...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Maybe you ought to think about your futile attempts at logic before you publish it. Obviously, the meaning "in that conversation" has everything to do with how the "meaning" was received by the student. No matter how the student used the word, the meaning when thrown back at the student, given the way English works, need not be the same. And clearly the student didn't perceive or conceive or receive it as the same. So, again, think before you throw soft-balls of illogic around. Obviously...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

jazzdog ·
One of the things about hopefully being an educator is having enough sense not to engage in behavior or language that is wrong or could seemed as hateful. Just because your students are brain dead doens't mean you have to be also. Interesting point about juke joints as I spend my fair share in them while going to college in Mississippi. The idea that they were whorehouses speaks to the young not knowing what they are talking about. Granted there was sin going on in the place just not that kind.
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Re: CP Time

Rowe ·
I'll never forget one occasion when the first grade students at my school were scheduled to take a field trip to the Children's Museum. Teachers are expected to arrive at my school at 8:15 a.m. Most days, I arrive to school before this time. Well, another first-grade teacher, a bossy White woman, who I suspected was time-obsessed, wanted all the first grade teachers in the school to arrive at the time that she thought would be appropriate to prepare for the day's field trip. I arrived to...
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Re: The One....

HonestBrother ·
It will be a revolution in self-representation and artistic self-conception. We will see as in no time before a great many forms of black life given to an untold number of human aspirations. In moral, intellectual, and aesthetic terms we will discover as in no time before how truly deep it is too be black You've inspired me to be more grandiose As a professional educator, I teach pre-med students calculus. I don't consider this a great contribution to the world. But rather my background as a...
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Re: The One....

Khalliqa ·
You will be representing Black people as we are.... Will there be any contribution towards what we could be? This world needs more grandiose thinking Black men! (smile) Math? Calculus? I like math that is accessible to my level.... I only got to Calculus I... But I love math books for "laypeople"... I like Theoni Pappas' books and I have a book called "Nature's Numbers" by Ian Stewart.... and ummmmm... I'm sure you've heard of "Innumeracy" by John Paulos.... This sounds interesting.... I'll...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

nayo ·
"My point is simply that the same people who leap to the conclusion that he was being intentionally racist, use the n-word in everyday speech in a non-racist fashion. Italians don't call themelves whomps, Japanese people don't say Nip's, etc etc."" ------------------------------------------ The teacher was wrong. I never use the word. I teach at the university/college level, and there many student's in the '13th' grade, who remain immature and oblivious to decorum. They curse, yell, shout,...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Black Viking ·
What if? That is not a safe assumption, IMO. A teacher is required, certainly in a public school, to set a better example than this. I would take issue with a Black teacher using this word with a student. But, a white teacher using this word with a Black student is an entirely different ball of wax. When the word nigger comes from a white person it is derogatory, subjugating, and inflammetory. And he did this in public, in front of other students, which to my mind just throws gas on the...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
IRRELEVANT!!! And everything else you're "trying" - i.e. displaying - with your lawn chair logic is IRRELEVANT as well. Now, whoever you thought you were talking... Where did they(I) say, "You're trying to get us(me) to say it's ok for Whites(you) to use the N-Word." Logically, you can't get that out of anything I said, for certain: The thing is, it's really telling when people like you make an issue out of and try to justify Whites using the N-Word. That is, indeed, what you've "tried" to...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Now, this clearly displays your lack of logic or anything that can credibly be called an objective view of the situation. The students "sob story" notwithstanding... There is still the clear, blatant, obvious and absurd SOB STORY of the teacher that you don't and haven't scrutinized. Instead, you talk about some IRRELEVANT BULLSHIT about "English Teachers" without addressing this English teacher and analyzing what he said and the clear SOB STORY he tried to pawn off. Again, you've shown how...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
I've told you what I think, you've had a load of fun attacking that, now heres something you can attack and possibly get somewhere. Why I think it. The only uninterested party who is credible, is the one who's opinion decides nothing, and has nothing to gain or lose by the situation. We only have two opinions as to the teachers intent (excluding the teacher as he obviously has the most to lose and is directly involved). 1) We have the negative opinion of someone who was in conflict with the...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO! The whole point here is that YOU GETS NOWHERE WITH YOUR FAULTY LOGIC, idiotic Circular Reasoning and Anal ABSTRACTIONS! First, foremost and ALWAYS... THE TEACHER'S INTENT IS IRRELEVANT! INTENT defines nor determines NOTHING! INTENT is not the End All, Be All of anything. As the saying goes, The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions. The Teacher's INTENT is IRRELEVANT because: Put simply... whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be,...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

HonestBrother ·
EP, I'm sorry for your disillusionment. As a college teacher myself, I feel duty bound to explain a few things: (1) College professors are not paid to be deep penetrating thinkers that question the status quo. (2) College professors ARE paid to be (I) competent teachers in their area of expertise and (II) competent researchers in a specialization who publish academic papers that are up to the standards of most of their peers (people who tend to be a lot like them). Having said this, some...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO, know the hell you're talking about before you open your mouth. Again, THE INTENT or "how it is meant" coming from a White person is IRRELEVANT!!! Second, Black people use of the term has nothing to do with how Black people should regard White people's use of it. There is NO SITUATION (or a very .0000001% few) where a White person can say the word and it not be inherently problematic. As they say, Black people use it AMONGST THEMSELVES as a term of endearment/affection. Simply put,...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
Welcome To Reality Point well taken. When I was an undergraduate, I too entered college expecting to be surrounded by power intellectuals. After watching episodes of Bill Cosby's TV show series, It's A Different World as a kid, I imagined college consisted of people just sitting around having "deep" discussions that were always meaningful and relevant to the lives of Black people. After my first year as a freshman, however, I soon realized that these discussions were to be taken place...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
You refuse to acknowledge I've constantly said any of the following, instead "arguing" by restating them as if they were an opposing viewpoint. 1) Yes, the teacher used a word innapropiate to the situation, I've said this several times, as have you. We agree, quit harping on the goddamn point. 2) I HAVE NO FUCKING PROBLEM WITH WHITES NOT BEING ALLOWED TO SAY "NIGGER!" NONE! ZERO! I'VE STATED THIS EXPLICITLY SEVERAL GODDAMN TIMES! QUIT HARPING ON IT AS A VALID REFUTATION OF WHAT I'VE SAID! IT...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Black Viking ·
I did read your whole post, but this is the major disconnect that your having... The impact on the student has nothing to do with the intent of the teacher . Why is this so hard for you to understand? It has nothing to do with whether or not the teacher is punished. Whatever damage that was done is already done. It doesn't matter in the slightest what the teacher's intent was. He can control his intent, but not the effect. Coincidently, and especially, because he is a teacher, he must be...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Ouwe ·
I wonder if the teacher thought he could and would have a better relationship with his Black students if he used the N-word. I feel the teacher should have known better I don't use the word nor do I like hearing anyone use it. Some try to say the N-word is a word to show affection to another African American. I feel it's a disrespectful word that was created to demean our people for years. I have always been told that you can't polish up SH!+, you can try to buff it, you can also try to...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Dude, you didn't come here under the pretense that you were presenting a WHITE PERSPECTIVE. You tried to feign objectivity. Now make up your fuckin' mind what your approach is before you open your mouth. First, you haven't, can't and won't be able to detail how the teacher was "WRONGFULLY ACCUSED". You've went about this predetermined process of GIVING HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT which heavily prejudiced every Got-Damn thing you said. You have taken this teacher's side with no just cause.
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO?? Put up or SHUT UP! HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"? Put up or SHUT UP! You called it "hypocrisy", you invoked the Civil Rights Movement et al... Answer the question. What the FUCK does that mean? HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"? "ALL" my azz! Answer the question. What is the "OBJECTIVE TREATMENT" in this whole WHITES CAN'T SAY THE N-WORD thingy that amounts to anything worth mentioning in the same conversation as the Civil Rights...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ricardomath ·
A friend of ours from my wife's city in Colombia always has foreign students coming up to him in bars here in Ames and trying to speak to him in Chinese and Japanese. His mother visited the US last year, flying here on the same flight with us during our return flight from Colombia. Asians kept coming up to her in the airports speaking Chinese and Japanese, too. She didn't know what to think, since she speaks only spanish. It was pretty funny. Her son has been here in Ames for a year or so,...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

Vox ·
Ricardo, is she Asian (racially speaking)? Like Alberto Fujimori? Or does she just look it, because of native (a la Inca) extraction?
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ricardomath ·
Their anscestors are from Japan. I believe that her grandparents (his great grandparents) were the last genetration in their family to speak Japonese. What I find particularly amusing is that my wife and pretty much everybody else often refers to him as "el chino", dispite the fact that "japonés" is a perfectly good spanish word. It's just not much used. I've never quite understood that.
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
I get so very tired of people suggesting that we "do away" with the educational system, offering no recommendations as to how we are to get the masses of Black children to perform academically on par with other children. These people are often the least likely to do anything about the problems they observe in our nation's education system. I understand, fully, people's gripe with the "educational system." I work within this sytem on a daily basis, but we need to grow up and accept the...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
I'm sorry that you received my suggestions as criticism. Perhaps you may have forgotten, but not only did I suggest that you share your enthusiasm for technology with students in schools, I recommended that you purchase the books on your list and submit them to public schools to be placed in school libraries. I also suggested that you read the books, on your list, to students on days when vistors are welcome, such as Career Days . On this day, you could discuss with students your profession...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
I have to go, but I just wanted to share one teacher's experience with the demands of raising her students' standardized test scores. My friend, who is also a teacher (Highschool) claimed that her principal threatened to fire her if she did not raise her students' scores in a reasonable amount of time. And at one time, Prince George's County, MD (the county in which I presently teach) considered paying its teachers according to the scores students earned on standardized tests. I was...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
From your last post you repeated the question "HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"?" The post before it I answered "By the government officially setting a standard which made a distinction upon the basis of ethnicity... As far as the actual usage of the word goes, I personally wouldn't be hurt at all. Its nice to see we agree on a concept we've both repeated over and over again." You didn't bother reading my post. Nor the posts where I said I didn't think the word nigga...
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