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Re: Should Black People...

Isome ·
No, no, no we should not and are not responsible for them being comfortable. One of the biggest obstacles we face is their propensity to view themselves as the center of the universe and all that they do, think and feel as the norm, or as the normative standard to which everything is compared and judged. Much like spoiled children, they need to learn that the sun does not rise and set upon them. A little discomfort is just what the doctor ordered.
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Re: Heaven & Hell Before Christ

Oshun Auset ·
Arguing over a name is pointless and stupid. Debating the concepts we hold is important because it is the concepts we have of 'God' that frames our whole world view and determines how we respond to each other, nature and the universe. IMO the dominant world 'response' of Western man is extremely destructive to say the least.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
Based upon the onus you place on their backs, why do you call them "victims"? Please explain. A woman has been repeatedly abused by her husband over the years. She walks into the police station, finally, seeking protection and relief. CF looks at her and says, "What are you prepared to do to change to help your situation?" First of all - she has taken the first step and is at the damned police station. Second of all, that she has survived as long as she has is a testament to her personal...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: Should Black People...

Faheem ·
I damn near fell out laughing while reading what Sister PowerFlower wrote; She writes that the brother wrote in his article; HAHA... a whistling Black man would be perceived as less threatening... I can just see Negroes walking around whistling trying to say to white folk, "I am a cool Negro not one of those violent ones". Imagine how psychologically warped a white person must be to believe a Black man whistling is not a threat. Some Negroes would tap dance every time they walk pass a white...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I started this thread because I thought that it provided women with some good dating advice. Honest. Soon this thread turned into, like other threads, a battleground for negativity. I backed away from this thread for that reason. As for posting something 'nice' for the ladies, i've found that no matter what I post, be it pictures of beautiful sisters, dating advice, honest perspectives from a single male's point of view, song lyrics/music video links, etc I get nothing but crapped on. It's...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: How The Bush Administration Hurts The Black Community

Kevin41 ·
Man shut up with that self-importantce bullschit this morning Lofton..no one gives a fuck about what you think or your weird azz writing style you picked up from the ward....you're the joke Lofton...you grew up to be someone so alienated from your own that you seek out white racists for affiliation...now talking about jokes....do you really think those hateful azz inbreds at stormfront take you seriously? hell no...you're like ward coonerly and the rest....racists find you useful to help...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
Hmmm...that's probably due to Augustinian influence in Christian thought. Modern Christianity took Augustine's philosophy that the material world is something of a "curse", and that physical bodies are crass and disgusting. Many Christian basically view the body as little more than a prison for an idealized fluffy, wraith-like soul. That's why I find Tantric Buddhist philosophy on the soul so refreshing. It goes beyond this Cartesian Dualism of "body" and "soul", and it describes the body...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Dr. Kevin: It is clear that you prefer a Black man who you can easily draw upon. You prefer to have Black folks commit to simple "Yes or No" questions rather than be able to justify their positions. I am convinced that you are more comfortable with a Black man who doesn't know much BUT who supports your position and when challenged resorts to the cry of RACISM rather than a Black man who DISAGREES WITH YOU AND CAN ARTICULATE WHY HE THINKS THAT WAY. YOU ARE A SHORT SIGHTED IDEOLOGUE (read - a...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
Actually some views that are considered "socially conservative", I disagree that they are limited to social "conservatism". I don't view centering on family and morals as "conservative" because many social "liberals" do the same. I also don't necessarily anti-racism to be "liberal".
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
There have been plenty of studies done on racial disparities on medical treatment. SOME have shown that even Black practitioners provide a lower standard of care to Black patients. In my view it has to do with the amount of insurance that is available to the individual based on the job that they work, the general standard of the medical facility itself (as compared to one in a more wealthy facility and YES plain ole racism. Michael has documented the tale of shoddy medical care at MLK...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Perhaps novice teachers may discuss this issue on a day-to-day basis; however, just like in any other profession, after gaining experience, knowing how to teach students becomes second nature. Sure, that's one of the purposes for attending the workshop: to network with other teachers. Other purposes include exposure to new teaching strategies and better ways to assess students. Jean Piaget (1896-1980) and Lev Vygotsky (1986), both pioneers in the field of educational research, believes...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
How about the law which gives Congress the right to authorize the President to declare war?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Thats okay CF...there are many who teach me things on this board, but being that I am fairly academically astute my damn self..I have to separate bullschit from actual learning material...but there is a definite core of educated people on this board who possess progressive thought. I have learned many things in areas of finance, technology, theology, medicine and other areas of academic endeavor. There is a big difference between what those people tell me and those who come in here daily to...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Kevin41 ·
Well Frenchy, If you insist...maybe i'll just go out on a crusade against their azzes and then you'll be satisified with your take on my positions with them. Will that satisfy your need to tell me what I really think about gays when I said specifically I really do not give a damn if they suceed or fail and I would not assist or inhibit them? Next time, just don't ask me....do like CF and tell me what I think....and then schit will be the way you see it and not how I said I embraced it.......
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Melesi ·
The "second death" is a phrase in the Revelation of John describing spiritual death and one's choice of and consignment to hell. It's not considered a good thing. The western Church for a long time took the Stoic/Neoplatonist idea that the flesh is "bad" and evil, but ever since the Reformation that has not been a serious concept. Now ansd then someone would revive the idea, but it never found much currency. When the Bible became cheap and readily available, the description of the world...
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Re: For Fine - Afr Amer Women's history

FireFly ·
Q: has anyone been to see these collections??? Quote: "Sources created by African-Americans are important since they are based on the actual experiences of blacks and reflect black perspectives and interpretations on a variety of issues. The existence of such records is rare, particularly during the period of slavery, causing the African-American voices that do exist to seem all the more precious." The collections listed below are diverse in content, perspective, and format.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
** This is why we must push to educate the black populous. For the last few years, the CalStart program that sends lower-income people to the CalState schools had a surplus of money. While a teacher in that system, I was able to get people to encuorage others they knew to apply for and utilize the monies available. Between that and contributing to black organizations for thelast 20 years and taking young black males to Camp Sigma to learn about self-esteem, acacdemic acheivement and gang,...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Nmaginate ·
And that is exactly the problem. And you can't rule out a figurative rush to "Profit." All of that, I can explain but the point is, you really wasn't reading carefully at all (see below). But, maybe you could just better articulate the idea about "competition" and actually explain/elaborate on how such "competition" can and will benefit ALL or as many children as possible and, particularly, a big (as opposed to a little) chunk of "the least among us." It can't be that hard if your actually...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

EbonyRose ·
Texas Star, I see your point too. And I have to give a bit to what Honest Brother said as well. Different points of view can be just as much a good thing as a bad one. I don't think you'll find what you're looking for here in this particular forum, but I think in the other forums, such as Our Lives or the Business or the Den or the Spot or Relationship forums you find more collaberation and coming together and helping on a variety of different subjects. Perhaps you could try promoting more...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
Um, it may have something to do with the fact that you are in the Issues/Politics forum? Politics, much like religion and racial matters are very controversial subjects. You will find people everywhere, not just Blacks in particular, who are divided on these issues. Therefore, trying to get members on the board to reach some sort of unified concensus is unrealistic, in my opinion. However, I think what you are noticing, as a new member, is an ongoing, rather hostile and verbally explicit...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

MBM ·
As I've said many times over, there are thousands of African Americans who are 'doing their thing' in this country - achieving at the highest levels and acting in a way that is unencumbered by the ills that you are fixated on. It's a shame that this part of our community is apparently out of your view.
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Re: Now this is what I have been troubled with for a while..

Faheem ·
So I would not be that far from the truh to say that in your view it is ok to spend like crazy buy expensive cars, jewelry and clothes as long as you have enough to retire with and have something saved for your children?
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Yeah, ISOME... be some people view that ASSERTION OF ONE'S HUMANITY as some type of troubling REBELLION. How dare a ni@@er not subscribe to "This Is A White Man's World." The European is not going to change his ways until he decides that he no longer wishes to remain a distinct genetic group. He has a right to decide this. He does not have a right to trample over other people. [But yet, nothing is said...] They know the consequences of yielding their guard and accepting full "integration".
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Or rather by accepting "his place" and then trying to repackage that acceptance as a Morally Superior position. You know, as CON-Feed tries to prop up and infuse his one-sided "Interal Focus" idea as a positive and tries to disparage what he calls the effort "To Have White Folks Change" as a negative... as if his view is certifiably better, more focused, more concerned, more appropriate and more constructive and instructive towards the uplift and forward flow of the Black Community and its...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Nmaginate ·
SUNNUBIAN, we've had several discussions here about that African-American Congress... In my view, the first order of business would be to Coordinate Organizations, etc. with Similar Functions. And COORDINATION is the whole idea of UNITY as I see it. The fundamental philosophy would be that We're All In This Together with the fundamental assumption being that We All Want What's Best For The Black Community. For this to happen, IMO, it will take a Phil Jackson like statesperson who can keep...
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
Have Black Women Gotten Out Of The Black Man's Reach? Brother Honestbrother, Frenchy's argument is that whatever a woman's idea of a best pick is, she should be able to pursue such a man, if she so chooses. Whether her idea of a best pick is Denzel or Mr. T--that is her business . Women are not children that require special guidance or direction. Women are grown adults just as men are adults, responsible for making their own decisions . Also, another explanation for why more women are...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

MidLifeMan ·
Ok Frenchy...as usual I will be the sole voice to agree with your statement that there is a double standard. And as you have said, we are talking about WHAT IS For example: Woman has sex with lots of me = whore Man has sex with lots of women = stud I saw a report that said that men and women's have different brain so women look at things in the long term were as men look at the short term. I think we often forget we are creatures of nature. I'm not trying to make an excuse for this behavior...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
I will respectfully disagree with portions of your post. To suggest men only view things in the short term is suspect. To further assert that looks rule over all is suspect. Many of us said that core values & personality carry the day. The physical is the initial attractor, but not the permanent attractor. What that means is a less attractive women with personality has to work a little harder to get a guy to stick around to notice those core values. The same applies for men. Is that...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Yemaya ·
Hmmm....I have an issue with the way Mr. Phillips is framing this issue. He is automatically assuming that the school administrators and teachers are 100% faultless, at least that's the impression I get from the tone of his article. Everyone has their own prejudices when they come into a situation. Unfortunately, there are teachers and administrators who are biased against black children and boys, especially. One can only speak upon this based upon their own experiences. I don't think that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

MidLifeMan ·
Suspect? Ok. You'll have to forgive me if I'm a little confused...I guess going into the Den to "view" the "images" of "beautiful" women....and very few if any post about OTHER qualities of women would cause that confusion.
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

Rowe ·
Yes, I can choose not to view these images of Black women being portrayed in the media, but how do I raise other people's consciousness about the negative impact of these images?
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

folobatuyi ·
That is an uphill battle frought with resistance but my suggestion is one person at a time.
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

Rowe ·
Great advice.
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Re: Zionism

UppityNegress ·
No, but then again I'm an atheist and I view the Bible (Old Testament and New Testament) as the folklore and rhetoric of Bronze Age tribesmen in the Middle East. While I think it's a valuable piece of literature, I don't hold it in any higher esteem or moral value than I do the Vedas or the Scandinavian sagas. No! Of course, my answer to this would be no, but then my answer for this question wouldn't matter b/c I don't accept the premise that the Jewish/Christian god exists. Even working on...
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Re: Life After Limbo

Melesi ·
But isn't this last response a contradiction to the original posting? You wrote: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is evolutions like this one, which while supremely positive, give pause as to the "Godliness" of church doctrine...If not, then how is the church justified in amending God's word in this way - however popular or logical? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Which assumes that everything that the Catholic Church says it says as if coming from God. But that is not the case. There are...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Black Viking ·
Yes, those words are true. But if I wasn't certain of that, or if I completely disagreed with it, I certainly wouldn't allow your word to change my view. In fact, since your word would be highly suspect, I may take for granted that the truth is the exact opposite. Hypothetically speaking of course.
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Re: I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free.

Nmaginate ·
Frenchy, for one there is nothing particularly "Southern" about trailer parks, coal mines and incest. I'm from the rural Midwest and those "stereotypes" fit. And, no, I've said nothing about you posting side-by-side with the Klan. So, now, I guess I should say I'm firmly against your ridiculous outrage calling the "stereotype" Southern when it applicable in place in and beyond the South. BULLSHIT!!! And it's even more BS considering how your assumption about the said "stereotype" is...
 
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