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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Well, ART_GURL, with JWC weighing in as EVERYONE (other than me) *lol*... It would seem that, in all your questions, with all the answers you're "looking" for, with all the answers you've gotten... Well, it's clear that you're just not listening. So, AG? Are you listening? You have been given information, rather freely I might add, about "what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities..." But somehow, because of some pre-set idea you know you have ("two sides")... you're just not...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

MBM ·
WHAT THE HECK WERE YOU DOING ON A DATE WITH CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK????? It serves you right girl!!
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Rowe: I don't have the same views as your date. It is not about "working hard". PLENTY of people "work hard". For me it is about CULTURE and the PROCESS for achieving these cultural directives. Many Asian families have the concept of "Shame upon the family". This "pressure" is put upon the kids to have them act in line with some sort of principles and dignity as they conduct their lives. SURELY all of them do not abide by this all of the time but atleast it can serve as a course correction...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: The Word ["Amen"]

Fine ·
How many would still say amen at the end of prayers if they knew the word is of/from the "african" God "Aten" "Aton".
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Actually THIS IS NOT THE CASE. I know that the biggest challenge to CHANGE within the Black community are the very people who claim to "Own Blackness". To some extent they/YOU are not going to respond willingly to someone who is "agreeable" with you. You need to have a MIRROR shown to your face and will need to be CHALLENGED to change so that you can live up to what you CLAIM to aspire to. Again I say - Why would I hold out my self-worth on a platter for someone who has shown over time to...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
You really do have problems READING and COMPREHENDING. Like the proverbial pat on the head some would say the author here is trying, auditioning so hard for, huh? When you know what the hell you're talking about then tell me what I "may be surprised to find." ...(*ahem*) (clearing throat, major phelm from having to repeat or say something so obligatory to where I need to take a second and make sure it comes out loud and clear)... "What Does HATE Have To Do With It?" GET A FUCKIN' CLUE. Get a...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
More like have enough self-respect and self-esteem as to not discredit his/their own intelligence by thinking dumb shit like that will fly. At least make a more compelling case, if there is one... (Oops! There isn't one). It's really sad and I sorta feel sorry for people who have problems saying things beyond the little juvenile simplistic, half-a-first-thought ridiculous ideas they think would or should resonate. Here's a short list of this Child's Themes (with him thinking he's talking to...
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Re: Dorothy Dandridge....now there was a woman

HonestBrother ·
Yes Lawd...Now that'll make a man get religion...
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Re: Now this is what I have been troubled with for a while..

umbrarchist ·
I think this is about haveing an inferiority complex and having to compensate for it. It leads to many mistakes. I had a woman talk to me about buying a $1000 suit. I sat there thinking "is she nuts." so a couple of weeks later I decided to do an experiment. I checked the newspaper for estate auctions with oriental rugs. And I called her and asked if she would go to an auction with me. She said no. I would be willing to spend a grand on an oriental rug, Chinese no Persian. Rugs don't change...
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Re: Queen Candace*

Fine ·
Vox--I am currently at the library--as promised. All signs point to -- Queen Shanakdakhete. She is most likely the Ethiopian Queen that sat waiting for Alexander the Great at the borders of Ethiopia. The timetables are way off, however... Dr. Chancellor Williams gives the "near confrontational meeting" as 332BC. However... Queen Shanakdakhete's chronological position is much debated (i.e. I wonder why, my insert). Dunham suggested 177-155BC, Hintze 180-170BC, Wenig 170-150BC, Shinnie...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Black Viking ·
An effective end to what?
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
it's not that I'm not listening... quite the contrary. I am thinking a lot about what it means to be white and white priviledge. And I do ask questions of myself and other white people. It's an ongoing process and I am doing the best I myself can. I am also thinking about what can bring an end to white 'attitude' and develop consciousness about being white as well as how to build bridges that lead to equal rights and equal opportunities for all. I see all of that as quite a large thing to...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Quite right, but it is some Australians, not all Australians. Perhaps the most important process that has been stalled is Reconciliation. A lot of Australians want our federal government to say 'Sorry' to the members of the Stolen Generation, and the indigenous population. There has been a century-long struggle for rights for Aborigines in Australia. What has it achieved? One thing is the right to vote. That it took until the late 1960s is outrageous. Another issue is a treaty. Australia has...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Well maybe, baby, you're right. I'm just not getting it. Personally I'd take Alfre Woodard over either Beyonce or Halle Berry. And I just learned she's married to a white guy. Maybe it's just me. I like smart women. And I know if I require both brains and a body like Beyonce I'll be waiting forever... And in the end we're still just arguing over people's fantasies... OK we're arguing over a fantasy double standard. You win. But it still boils down to fantasy. And the only thing important to...
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Re: We lost almost a full percentage in IT workforce count over 9 year period

Dusty Elbow ·
Does the term and title 'net worth' only applies to the owner? It cannot seem to say the net worth of my car since its had depreciation associated with it. Or a house. Or a job. The person and or person that own can claim 'net worth' it seems? That's is very trick term 'net worth'.
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Well, Kevin... when that "White Boy", a self-professed CONservative, quoted this line from Project 2019, I exposed him and his whole entire charade and scheme. He latched onto this Project 2019 (and quotes Larry Elder, Star Parker, Williams, McWhorter, etc.) and tried to celebrate saying silly shit like "Black Leaders agree with me" even after I've broke his ass down several months ago where he put his tail between his legs and just cried uncle: "I'm done with "race"..." Well, something...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love Ruby Dee. Her talent and longevity. Her dignified beauty. Her eyes. And last but not least her lifelong devotion to Ossie Davis. Ruby: "How to ride the rough waves in a relation long enough for the waters to get calm? When does it sink in that overcoming difficult times gets easier with practice? How do you drag some of the good feelings, good times vibrations into the stormy places? To love someone long and deep is a "consummation devoutly to be wished"!... It is day by day, one step...
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Empty Purnata ·
HELL, even the 9-11 Commission itself admits that no evidence of a plane (or the alleged people on Flight 77) was ever found: http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight77.html I had this dicussion with my mother a while ago, and she got so upset that I kept debunking her "evidence" that she started yelling and cutting me off. She kept saying that if the goverment was lying, they wouldn't leave info open like that to be debunked. I told her that experts and scientists can debunk lies,...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

Black Viking ·
I love all of this. Wow, that's too powerful for words.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
For God's Sake! Denzel and Halle are only examples. The double standard plays out in normal everyday life! "What makes you think you deserve to date an attractive attorney?" "That's what you get for dating a 'pretty boy'?" "Who wouldn't choose the girl with the big butt over the brainiac? It's only natural to go after what is visually appealing!" Etc. This is NOT about specifically dating Denzels and Halles. This is NOT about lowering dating expectations. It's not about speicifcally dating...
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Re: How about those Blue Devils?????

MBM ·
Them's fighting words Catchings! Seriously though - the game really exposed Duke's seemingly consistent/persistent Achilles heel: athleticism and post presence. Sheldon Williams is a beast - I think, but maybe he just has NO help. Whatever the situation - Duke always gets killed in the paint. Gtown crushed them in points in the paint and rebounds today. Also - Duke has these white boys running around trying to hang with Gtown's athletes. It looked rather foolish. At one point in the late...
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Re: What makes caucasians white?

Empty Purnata ·
On racial categories, one case-in-point on how broad "racial" categories are is Central Asians. Central Asians (peoples from Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Kahazakstan, Turkey, Iran, etc.)are Caucasoid, yet they don't resemble Western Europeans very much. Central Asians have rounded (actually, semi-Monogoloidic eyes), big noses, fullish lips, wavy and/or curly hair, and brown skin. About 100,000 years ago, some Central Asians traveled eastward into Asia (which...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
NOW THIS IS KEY RIGHT HERE. I'm glad that you posted this, Nmag. Now these are things which harm Black Unity in America more than anything else (I would also add those who view quick monetary gain through illegal activity as "acceptable" to the dis-unity list). For Black Unity to be achieved, we also need more communal ethic with Black Businesses. Many Black Businesses operate just like White Businesses and just do business with whoever the highest bidder is (so in the end, it doesn't help...
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Re: Dorothy Dandridge....now there was a woman

4YAINFO ·
AZIZI JOHARI from back in the day , she was a very tall sistah who often accompanied Sammy Davis , Jr. on his concert tours. She did a centerfold for Playboy Mag some years ago and was featured in one of Leon Isaac Kennedys' fight movies. Gabrielle Union and Halle Berry aint no punks either in the looks department.
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Re: Cathy Freeman goes bush...

FireFly ·
I found this story about the making of the series. Freeman and Mailman go bush Issue 95 By Erin McWhirter, TV Writer NATIONAL, Jan 19, 2005: It takes a lot to make Olympic gold medallist Catherine Freeman cry. Throughout her life the sports star has been through the devastation of losing big races and other personal dramas, but she rarely cries. However, a recent road trip with actress and pal Deborah Mailman changed all that. In an instant, the city slickers who spent seven weeks travelling...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
This is NOT the point, AG. No one is encouraging women to date only a Denzel. No one is saying Denzels are the only quality men. No one is saying that we want the right to hold out for a Denzel. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF STRIVING FOR A "DENZEL" WITHOUT HEARING A BUNCH OF FRIGGIN LIP ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO REFOCUS/REVISE/RETHINK BECAUSE WE DON'T DESERVE IT OR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING THE "LOWER-RUNG" OF BROTHAS A CHANCE OR WHATEVER OTHER REASON. The same way that men can strive for the...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

AudioGuy ·
We men strive for the woman who is the prettiest available ... again, regardless of her station in life... Women, on the other hand, strive for the prettiest available and the mercedes ... Frenchy... back away from the computer, these are just opinions - nobdy is claiming to be Dr. Phil here. It is not a reduction !! I can't speak for anybody anybody else, but I contribute to this because it is a discussion forum . Quite obviously, yes.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
qty226, I'm fuckin amazed. You skipped over every single thing I said. Discounted all of it. Then stuck on your own two cent bitterness on the end of it. F*ckin amazing..... YEAH that's right I'm just another nigga doesn't know what he's talking about. Screw it.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
DING, DING, DING - We have another winner. I've expressed this in other threads. Everybody can't get the instant dream life (add perfect man/woman & stir ). Yes, it happens, but it's not the norm. Did anybody really read that Ruby Dee quote: To me, it's about knowing that things will never be perfect. It's about finding someone you're willing to love & argue with. It's about allowing yourself & your partner to evolve. It's not about picking a ready made package off the shelf.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
I also want to be clear that many of the examples I put out are people with ADVANCED degrees who are making serious contributions to the world but who might make $40,000-$90,000 versus $100,000-$150,000/yr - and some of them ARE Doctors but not MDs. It's just that these people deal in the world of ideas/knowledge and don't have monetary gain or more conventional types of prestige/status as a motivator. I was deliberately trying to gauge the female response to a group of very educated and...
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Re: Reparations for Native Americans?

Nmaginate ·
It goes without saying that they haven't been compensated in any way nearly enough. And, from what little I do know, they have had Trust set-up for them by the government raided to no end. So the little they've got has come with big chunks bitten out of them and with all types of "Where is my money" drama. the government liability is as much as $176 billion.
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

HonestBrother ·
I love Lauryn Hill! This sista is brilliant, talented, and beautiful. And a few years ago one of her songs really made a difference in my life. I had just turned 30 - which for some reason was traumatic - and I had broken up with a girlfriend. Then I learned that my unmarried sister was having a baby. And for some reason this last piece of news hit me the hardest. I fell into a funk. It was Lauryn Hill's song To Zion that made me realize something very good could come out of the situation. I...
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Kweli4Real ·
About two years ago, I read an article on an obscure economics website that argued that the US's motivation for attacking Iran has nothing to do with nucs; but rather, Iran's stated intention to tie its oil to euros rather than dollars which would turn the world medium of exchange on its head. And guess who would be the big loser?
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Re: I guess the draft will start once they start f-king with Iran

Faheem ·
Here is a great piece by Pat... __________________________ Iran vs. Israel: Bush's dilemma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Patrick J. Buchanan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2006 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In the test of wills between the West and Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad shows no sign of backing down. The Iranian president has said Israel should...
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Re: For the Sistas of AA.org

folobatuyi ·
Awesome story, dude! . I too love Lauryn Hill...her Miseducation CD was the shit and a rare one in these times!
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Re: NUBIAN Queen Ti Unearthed

Yemaya ·
Good post. This statue bust that appears on this post was found some time ago. It has been used in various documentaries about King Tut and his family lineage. I've even seen it on a website called "Black Consciousness" where they've linked it to different pages about African history. I'd like to point out one thing, many so-called expert Egyptologists are European. Has anyone else ever noticed that??
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Re: NUBIAN Queen Ti Unearthed

sunnubian ·
What's equally amazing is the fact that the Euro-Western racist historical revisionist did not get a chance to manipulate her obviously African features or had to chance to FIRST publish/distribute whitenized photos of her throughout the world to add to the mythology that those that are the predominate race in Egypt now are the same ones that Built and ruled Egypt thousand of years ago, etc., etc.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

HonestBrother ·
(1) Is this taking into account another 100 years of Jim Crow? (2) It's controversial exactly what Lincoln and the Union troops were sacrificing for - i.e., was it to end slavery or was it to preserve the Union? And there were also non-altruistic reasons for white northerners to oppose slavery. For example, many white northern industrialists feared that if the south industrialized that it would have a tremendous competitive advantage due to access to a huge pool of free slave labor. (3) But...
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Re: NUBIAN Queen Ti Unearthed

Nmaginate ·
My apologies... The statue that was recently found is the 1st picture in my 2nd post. Statue of King Tut's grandmother unearthed The one in the title-post was to make sure we knew who we were talking about in all her dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark redness!
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

folobatuyi ·
I feel you, HB.....we both have humble beginnings ( I was a nursing assistant while in college) and I am kinda still in it...residency is a long trip. But I'm happy and there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: Conservative Whites vs. Liberal Whites

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Racism is the common thread. The greater impact against Black people today reaching our full potential are BLACK PEOPLE OURSELVES. Lacking a cohesive strategy and the INTERNAL ability to have the maximum amount of our people kept in line to support them IT IS NOTHING BUT FOLLY TO EVEN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. White Conservatives who are racists are more blatant in their views against Blacks. They let you know how they stand. They don't offer any help and thus Blacks must "fend for themselves".
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think that Lincoln gets way to much credit for this. He wrote in a letter, just before the beginning of the Civil War, that his "greatest concern is to save the Union. If I believed that preserving slavery would accomplish that goal, I would do so." The only thing Lincoln deserves credit for is being far sighted enough to realize that if slavery wasn't abolished, the slaves themselves were going to tear his beloved Union down around his ears.---Black Viking I really appreciat your post. I...
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