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Re: The name of our moon?

umbrarchist ·
I haven't seen ExistenZ so I don't know if it meets my qualifications for science fiction or suggested science fiction. Many people, myself included, do not consider STAR WARS to be science fiction. I call it space opera, being on the same level with Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. The Abyss: Special Edition is just about the best science fiction movie I know of The movie version falls kind of flat at the end. It is closely followed by 2001. The trouble with 2001 is the people aren't very warm...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Isome ·
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao, a woman of color , used the expected rightwing half-truth tactic to defend the administration's record on mine safety enforcement. She said that federal inspectors had "increased their inspections [at the Sago mine] by about 84 percent." That's only half true . Though inspectors increased their inspections at Sago, what Chao didn't say was that the inspections clearly documented the unsafe conditions at the mine: Nearly half of the 208 safety citations levied...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Empty Purnata ·
Kanye West claimed during Hurricane Katrina that "George Bush doesn't care about Black people." Kanye West was half-right. Bush doesn't care about Black people, but he doesn't care about non-rich White either, that's what alot of people seem to be missing. In fact, the whole Republican Party is geared towards rich-White business-owners, managers and the wealthy, elite capital class. They only pander to working-class Whites becuase they know working-class Whites make up a major voting bloc of...
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Re: Should Black People...

Diamond ·
QUOTE]Originally posted by AudioGuy: Is there a correlation between "fear being good" and your bookstore experience? It would seem to me that your fear was unwarranted... based on the story...[/QUOTE] A little fear makes you aware of your surroundings when walking. I thought the young man was a THUG out to snatch my purse or an out-patient from the near-by asylum out to do me harm. Only to discover, the young man was doing what I was doing, continuing his education and buying books for class.
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
Ignatius Sancho (1729-1780) (excerpts only) From African Slave to Composer & Author Born on a Slave Ship Near Guinea, West Africa Ignatius Sancho was one of the few Africans in 18th-century England to become a member of the middle class, highly literate and an amateur musician and composer. Birth Ignatius Sancho was born in 1729 on a British slave ship near Guinea, West Africa, enroute to the Spanish West Indies. He was orphaned in infancy. Ignatius Sancho: An African Man of Letters is a...
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Re: Recipes... Part 2

FireFly ·
OK some yummy Moroccan marinade and snack... Charmoula Marinade makes about 3 cups 1 tablespoon dried curshed chilli 1 tablespoon sweet paprika 1 teaspoon chopped fresh ginger 1/e teaspon saffron threads 2 onions, diced 2 bay leaves 1 tablespoon ground cumin 2 garlic cloves (or more) chopped or minced 2 tablespoons chopped fresh flat leaf parsley 2 tablespoons chopped fresh coriander (cilantro) 1/2 preserved lemon, skin only, washed in water 1/2 cup/4 fl oz olive oil juice 1/2 lemon Mix all...
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Re: Recipes... Part 2

FireFly ·
You can buy jars of this commerically, but it is fun to make and worth the fiddle... Moroccan Preserved Lemons Makes 10 10 thin skinned lemons 1 1/2 cups rock salt 1 litre (32 fl oz) boiling water juice of 1 lemon 8 cardamon pods 2 small red chillies, optional 2 bay leaves, optional olive oil, to cover Scrub the lemons well and soak in wate for about 3 days, changing the water daily. This disperese the gas and acids contained in the fruit). Remove from the water and cut four pockets end to...
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Re: Why second chances don't work.

Black Viking ·
This is probably the part that most people skip when they trying to go backwards. They never really figured out for themselves why the break-up happened. I think most relationships have a "straw that broke the camels back". When we think about why the relationship ended, we only think about the last straw. We don't think about the pile that came before that. Then, if we can talk outselves into believing that the straw was a small thing (It was just/only...add anything), then we try again,...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Melesi ·
The "second death" is a phrase in the Revelation of John describing spiritual death and one's choice of and consignment to hell. It's not considered a good thing. The western Church for a long time took the Stoic/Neoplatonist idea that the flesh is "bad" and evil, but ever since the Reformation that has not been a serious concept. Now ansd then someone would revive the idea, but it never found much currency. When the Bible became cheap and readily available, the description of the world...
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Re: Prove Christ exists, judge orders priest

HonestBrother ·
I wonder what they'll be writing about 2Pac 2000 years from now....
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
So much for Affirmative Action, and like minded progressives and any benefit they bring to the Black community. There are definitely more pressing issues and concerns, based on credibility and not the fiction, and fallacies of any Kevin41, Empty Purnata, etc., etc..... ...such activity would not be considered B.S. by those victimized by this activity. More likely those who make excuses for our own inept Black elected leadership, those who change the subject matter to compare the senseless...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
** This is why we must push to educate the black populous. For the last few years, the CalStart program that sends lower-income people to the CalState schools had a surplus of money. While a teacher in that system, I was able to get people to encuorage others they knew to apply for and utilize the monies available. Between that and contributing to black organizations for thelast 20 years and taking young black males to Camp Sigma to learn about self-esteem, acacdemic acheivement and gang,...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
He could command if only he wanted?: Sheesh! How tragic! So let me ask: Why didn't the Christians of the 19th century follow St. Paul's example? That's what you advocate right? Do as the Bible commends? So why didn't 19th century Christians follow that example??: wish the slaves well, bid the masters regard their slaves as brothers, and remark that they could command if they wished it but wait instead for it to come from the heart???
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Repeat:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
The problem isn't that he doesn't say it. The problem is that he doesn't say it in the way you want him to. Paul lived 2000 years ago in an entirely different culture and had as his objective the survival of believers in Christ. You cannot demand that he speak as a twenty-first century American (or even as a nineteenth-century Northerner). That's quite an imposition of your beliefs on someone who cannot defend or explain himself.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
I don't believe it should or shouldn't talk any way in particular. I have * no * belief * whatsoever * in the authority of this book - which was written for sheep herders by sheepherders millenia ago. And no. I will not waste any more of my time rereading this drivel. My only point was that it doesn't say what YOU want it to say.
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

HonestBrother ·
Once Again. Maybe you'll answer this time:
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
You haven't been listening. William Wilberforce and those many English Christians who followed him did follow Paul's example. The Christians in the American North did follow Paul's example. It was the basis for their activism for abolition. The "Christians" you really are talking about are the Christians in the American South, a minority of Christians, by the way. Many more fought for slavery's end than defended it pre-war. The reason teh Southeners defended slavery was because of the pride...
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Re: We lost almost a full percentage in IT workforce count over 9 year period

umbrarchist ·
The ECONOMIC UNIT is just an abstract representation for many possible economic entities that all have certain things in common. It could be a single person living alone. It could be a family of 4. It could be a hippy commune. It could be a multi-billion dollar corporation. In some ways you could compare it to a water tank. Water flowing in is income. Water flowing out is expenses. But the tank is not prefect, there is leakage from the bottom which is depreciation. A single man living alone...
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Re: The Bridge: Black Men & White Women (article)

Black Viking ·
I saw the show. It was very interesting to me because I'm bi-racial. The question that kept comming to me about that mother was, "How do you act white? Is there a specific way that white people act?" The mother also said she thought her daughter wasn't black enough. So, of course, similar questions present themselves,"How black is black enough? How does one portray blackness?" I think the mother's unaddressed problem is that her daughter is more than half-white. She has very Aryan features...
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Re: The Black Commentator vs. The Wall Street Journal

Nmaginate ·
And, since highlighted, African-American views then are, in Taranto's view, illegitimate or rather can only be legitimated when and if White people (a substantial minority of them, at least) hold the same views/perspectives or otherwise agree with so-called "appeals" from Black Folk. Racist Arrogance or no, it is the very imposition of and/or insistence on WHITE SUPREMACY. White Views RULE. They are the norm, the standard bearer - The Measuring Stick. Or so it is implied. I really don't...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Now Speaking of an Endless Loop Cycle of Poverty, Heavy Dependence on Social Welfare

Kevin41 ·
Ya'll know when whites get on welfare they really need the money...which is not bad......black folks just want welfare to buy rims......they do not really need it like the whites.....come on...I thought you all knew that....and you call yourselves progressives (end sarcasm)...
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Re: Now Speaking of an Endless Loop Cycle of Poverty, Heavy Dependence on Social Welfare

Empty Purnata ·
Remember, a subsidy for White people is a vital subsidy. A subsidy for Black people is wasting tax dollars.
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

HonestBrother ·
I don't believe in the American Dream. I'm with Umbra in that my goal personally is to achieve economic stability. This is * achievable * . The American Dream - to the extent that 'equality' requires acceptance - is not. Any kind of leverage will only come from $$$-power . We can demonstrate how moral, how intellectually brilliant, trustworthy, and capable we are until we're blue in the face. Hardcore whitey will still demand more proof. So that by no means should be the goal.
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Rowe ·
Hundred years ago, when Blacks were having their bodies hung from trees, their testicles hacked off, and basic rights taken from them on a daily basis, I'm sure someone had pondered this very same question: "What can Black people realistically expect to achieve in this country?" Now, because of our ancestors' unwaivering faith and sacrifice, everyone everywere is asking themselves: What can't those Black people realistically achieve in this country? Black people have survived the worst...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Are you saying that Dr. Sowell said otherwise (with respect to the first phrase of your response)? Who are these people who are treating Black kids differently than these "OTHER CHILDREN"? As our public school increase their REsegregation they are more likely to sit next to other Black kids and increasingly be taught by Black teachers. I can speak from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE about how more than 20 years ago when I was in high school I had the dual roll of being in the "Rapid Track" in my high...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
The TACTIC OF THE KNEEGROW..........arrange things so that a LABEL can be placed on a person and then characterize the person via the LABEL. All words that he says - EVEN THE ONE'S THAT YOU AGREE WITH - will be discounted because they have been produced by the person who holds this label. All DEBATE ENDS. Very effective strategy Empty. for the record the label that I often use (Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalist) is a operative description that the actions of those who are...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

James Wesley Chester ·
I can live with K41's reply i.e. equal reward for equal effort. I know what the 'end of the rainbow' is, but my ultimate expectation of America is societal parity. Not equality, but parity. And we have the key to that, not European-Americans. It appears we will be a long, long time achieving 'equal reward for equal effort'. We will not even demand equal treatment under the law. What can we expect??? That is more on point. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am not sure why I waste my time. I said NOTHING about getting reparations from Bush. Several weeks ago a frat brother of mine told me that Bush wasted billions in Iraq that he could have given to Black people as reparations. I asked him why is he so vocal about what "his enemy" has failed to do with his deficit spending to fund a war but he is so silent about what his friend has failed to do to pay the debt he owes to Blacks all the while having a SURPLUS. The end result for Black people...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Empty Purnata ·
Now there is no debating that. Anyone who tries to deny the fact that "school vouchers" have a racist past, and most likely a racist modern-day intent, have their heads buried in the ground. Of course, many White racists will deny it to the end, and their Black-faced, chicken-eating, greasy-grinnin', coon-shuffling lackies will follow them to the ends of the Earth and beyond.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

Rowe ·
It sadens me that we don't see and/or appreciate this kind of beauty more often. Who determines what is "ugly?" Where have all the Black models gone? - a supermodel analyzes racist factors in several industries that impact jobs in the media and fashion modeling industry by Veronica Webb In the fall of 1994, I shared the cover of YSB with Black male model Clayton Hunter and with Roshumba, who had been featured in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue three years in a row. I, like more than a...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
As I told my frat brother who encouraged me to join "N'Cobra" - I would consider joining BUT since he told me that they have a dual approach - REPARATION FROM AMERICA FOR SLAVERY and THE PROCESS FOR INTERNAL REPAIR WITHIN BLACK AMERICA. I told him that I would BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE INTERNAL REPAIR PROCESS. I would never do anything to stand in the way of the receipt of resources from America in the name of "Reparations" but this seems to me to be very much so less important toward acheiving...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

Sandye ·
IMHO, we should be striving to become a unified, self-sufficient African American community. We should encourage and support small individuals who have the potential to be the next Donald Trump or Bill Gates. We should establish more of our own banks, improve our urban "blight", develop business and professional incubators to enable us to decrease our dependency on those who seek our demise rather than our growth. Education is certainly key to self-sufficiency and we should strive to...
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Re: A Two Way Street by Armstrong Williams

Faheem ·
About a month or so ago there was a panel discussion on C-SPAN about Politics and Humor, Vernon Jordan was on this panel. He was the last to be introduced and while all the white panelist education, career accomplishments were mentioned as they were being introduced, the first thing the white guy who introduced everyone said about Vernon Jordan was that he is articulate and Vernon Jordan just grinned like a good Negro.
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

HonestBrother ·
My purpose was * NOT * to establish a dichotomy that encapsulated all the options in front of African Americans. As I agree that there are many other more urgent matters. I was * Only * addressing the single issue of reparations. And thank you for answering my question: In regards to the issue of reparations, you're really NOT serious. Forgetting already? : Reading for COMPREHENSION is fundamental.
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
Not public education, quality education through the siphoning off of funds by private schools. Of course it is the logical chain of events. The issue includes transferring money from public, non-profit entities to private, for-profit entities. Private entities compete with other private entities and their incentive to be the best is profit . To that end they are empowered to make student admission decisions that public schools cannot make.
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Re: "?Who Choses Whom?"

Max ·
It depends on who's pursuing whom- man initiates, women choose/rejects or vice versa. Gambit said... A woman knows who she is willing to hook up with, as soon as the dude walks into a room. --------------------- I don't agree with that. I wish I had a quarter for everytime a heard a woman say: "I ain't even wanna talk to that nigga, at first, cuz I thought he was ugly; but he started looking good to me the more I got to know him...he aiiight." (Usually, 9 months later, they both end-up in...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy: After reading Sowell's article, I clicked on his link to the Rose and Milton Friedman website. What is everyones position on vochers? Why are you for or against it ? Please do not resort to petty attacks such as "sell out," "Kneegrow," or Uncle tom !!" I really want to know how everyone feels about this?? I do not know if you saw this, but John Stossel did a show called "Dumb in america." I was a little annoyed how the show did not present both sides...
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Re: Vouchers ???

umbrarchist ·
It recently occured to me there could be another option with these vouchers. Suppose the kids came in to be tested every two months and as long as they remained above average they don't have to come to school. Tell them what books cover the material that will be on the tests and let them do what they please. If the kids have passed all of the tests at the end of the school year and haven't spent the vouchers with any schools or tutors then they can cash them in and keep the money. I bet you...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Only helping white people begin the as you call it "truth-telling". The only thing I "want white people to get out of the dialog" is to listen to and understand what is needed for equal rights, equal opportunities for all people on the planet. In this instance I am talking about African Americans and white North Americans. What do I want black people and white people to "get out of it"? An end the imbalance of "white priviledge" to create a truly inclusive human race. You keep telling me...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
Um, it may have something to do with the fact that you are in the Issues/Politics forum? Politics, much like religion and racial matters are very controversial subjects. You will find people everywhere, not just Blacks in particular, who are divided on these issues. Therefore, trying to get members on the board to reach some sort of unified concensus is unrealistic, in my opinion. However, I think what you are noticing, as a new member, is an ongoing, rather hostile and verbally explicit...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: Experience with Gypsies?

Frenchy ·
I made it back (obviously). Had a wonderful time the first few days and then I got really sick (still sick now). Nothing like trying to find a doctor in a foreign country at 2am. I spend a couple of days in bed, but then I was back out on the street because I had so much I wanted to see. BUT, other than that, everything was wonderful. Yummy, yummy pasta, magnificent sights (all the monuments are sooooo HUGE! everywhere I went I felt so small and, sort of, insignificant), really friendly...
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