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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
"Never To Be Forgotten" Renaldo "Obie" Benson/Singer with the Four Tops Lamont Bentley/Actor on "Moesha" Kenneth Bancroft Clark Shirley Anita Chisholm/Politician Johnnie Cochran, Jr./Famous Lawyer Shirley Horn/Jazz Singer Willie Hutch: Willie McKinley Hutchinson/ Motown Record Producer John H. Johnson/Publisher-Ebony Magazine, Jet Edward "Eddie" Patten/Member of Glady Knight and the Pips Constance Baker Motley/Attorney, Civil Rights Activist Rosa Parks/Civil Rights Activist Brock...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: Erykah Badu's stage show

Kweli4Real ·
While I've never seen one of her shows, you brought up an interesting point about stage performances. It's been more than 5 years since I've seen anything other than primarily instrumental jazz performances. Why? because too many vocal "artists" can't do live, what they do in the studio. And, those that come close to approaching their studio efforts, spend more time on their scripted to the minute routine and it comes across as the umpteenth time they've performed it. I wish we could go back...
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
**Yep, but dis he implicate the whites involved in many of those decisons? nope....and don't get me wrong, I don't excuse shit black people do wrong...I just do not let house niggs and racist inbreds present ANYTHING to me as a BLACK THING. Now when I brought this to Lofton's attention he gave homeboy a green light and continued to castigate the darkies....In addition, if his concern was just faulty services and incompetence, he would have brought forth the fuck-ups the white folks at UC...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely, it is the Black community that is nutty, backwards, sleazy, cowardly, disloyal, and/or treasonous towards itself...... ...and since I believe in the laws of this land, I don't make any attempt to justify illegal activity. ...instead it is better served to seek redress, as opposed to asking the perpetrators why they did it. ......more important than the why, is the proving that they did. Last time I checked, more so that not, those behind bars are there, because it was proven...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Frenchy ·
Give me a break, Kevin41. You are the same one who said you would not want any Black gay people marching with you for civil rights. They could "stay at home" according to you. Pick up your sheet on the way out.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Notice how they get longer as a way to be more distracting...man behavioral science is something else........ **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to become angry because of it. you understand what they are striving for as a goal, eliminate their possibility of accomplishing it...and go on about your merry day." by Kevin41 ************************************ I pay Kevin41,...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Yssys (Guest) ·
I think that this is such a relevant and interesting topic, I decided to bump it back up to the top of the discussion board. When I was in high school, I was fortunate enough to go to a presidential library and browse through the declassified files of that administration. I was incensed to discover that long before WWII so-called American citizens were being spied on and massive amounts of information was being documented an stored on non-violent organizations. Organizations such as the...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Nmaginate ·
Constructive Feedback?? Sunnubian?? Comments on the actual question at hand? And that set of questions make up one whole question to the tune of the one quoted, in bold, above. Now, with Asian-Americans "making more income" than any other group and excelling in education... YOUR ANSWERS? As for these blanket statements:So please make sure you are comparing Like Sets in every demographical sense. And even with that... YOUR ANSWERS?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Michael ·
....but Oh well, condemn Reverend Daniels for his actions, actions that have not harmed a hair on any Black persons head, while no good sleazy Reverend Jesse Jackson , Reverend Henry Lyons, and so many others, receive a free pass to steal from the Black community while the Black community remains in silence! ..... the KKK are least of the average Black man and woman's worries on the street. These individuals did not meet their maker as a result of any KKK activity, but rather the wrong...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
Is anyone following the confirmation hearings? I was reading the GOP list of witnesses for Alito when I came upon this: I find it interesting that Kirsanow is a member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights AND a partner in a law firm whose labor/employment law section [where he practiced] is widely known for its union-busting and aggressive, employee-hostile tactics.Kirsanow will be in the 5th panel and is a "discrimination is a thing of the past" civil rights
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Re: We lost almost a full percentage in IT workforce count over 9 year period

Dusty Elbow ·
Some related news of how things worked with IT in Australia with migrants. Migrants blamed for IT jobs cut By Jewel Topsfield, Canberra January 10, 2006 AUSTRALIA'S intake of skilled migrants with information technology expertise should be reduced to improve the prospects of local IT graduates who are struggling to find jobs, says an immigration analyst. Bob Kinnaird, of labour market consultants Kinnaird and Associates, said the Federal Government had brought in large numbers of IT workers...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
HB, Yes, the northern abolitionist movement included people who were not Christians, but that really is beside the point. Wiliam Wilberforce in England was a Christian who almost a hundred years before the American Civil War spearheaded the British abolitionist movement. Christians here were encouraged by his success and worked very hard to abolish slavery all through the country. It's what led to our Civil War, you'll remember. They worked with many who were not Christian, but they worked...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Affirmative Action: Who Benefits? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Answers to Frequently Asked Questions About Affirmative Action Where Do We Go From Here? Bibliography -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Policy That Suffers an Identity Crisis Few social policy issues have served as a better gauge of racial and ethnic divisions among the American...
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Re: Bush Selects Alito for Supreme Court

Kweli4Real ·
In following the confirmation hearings, I found one [actually several] of Alito's comments, "Curious." He was asked about something that he wrote arguing that the constitution is silent on the "right to privacy." [And, it is] The question [and answer] was framed in terms of the "right to privacy" announced in the Rowe decision. Alito was asked, with respect to his earlier comments, how he would approach the "right to privacy" question, if raised. Alito's response was that he would " approach...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: Impeach Bush?

Michael ·
...More likely the Democratic Party is losing steam, in trouble, losing its following, etc., etc. " Democrats target Alito, but miss the mark January 12, 2006 BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Edward M. Kennedy, the 73-year-old liberal lion of the Senate, did not so much roar as huff and puff Tuesday, as he faced Judge Samuel Alito. He and other Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee who had spent weeks preparing for Alito's Supreme Court confirmation hearing seemed to be shooting...
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Re: What's At The End of the Rainbow?

umbrarchist ·
That is an interesting sentence. What is the reality of a dream, any dream? I don't give a damn about any dreams. I am talking about understanding reality and manipulating it into a more desireable future reality. The future is coming and will enentually be the current reality, but what it will be like depends on decisions we make and actions we take today. But our decisions depend on our understanding of current reality. That association between income and security for instance. There are...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am proud of Black Commentator. They made it to the second paragraph before they went on the attack. CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER - huh? Many who are involved in what THEY call "Civil Rights circa 2006" want everything BUT character to be the primary factor in JUDGEMENT. We have no "civil rights movement" today. We have an IDEOLOGICALLY based agenda" that seeks to use countervailing forces of racial categorization to achieve a certain result. Of course as long as YOU agree with their methods...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
As nicely as I can say it....... STFU, "WHITE BOY!!" When you say things like this: Point out the fact that they are making use of some of the very same tactics that are now illegal after years of their protests and you are likely to be attacked...certainly verbally attacked, maybe physically attacked. YOU MIGHT BE A WHITE BOY ! Seriously though, take that BS right up off my thread. You know, that WHITE BOY BS!! You know, like this WHITE BOY BS: So, CF? Any other Stormfront-like opinions of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Thanks for the response and the quote - on the 'surface' the concept of being 'colourblind' can be taken as something positive (by me at least), as seeing beyond race and colour - not pre-judging or discriminating between people - but with closer scruntiny is, agreeably, more along the lines of.... "...that there can be injustice in treating people the same when in relevant respects they are different, just as much as there can be in treating them differently when in relevant respects they...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Kweli4Real ·
In a recent departmental "Team-Building" exercise, we were asked to articulate our "Civil Rights Dream." Everyone gave the pat "I dream of the day when all people are treated fairly, with dignity and respect" or "I dream for the day when there is no longer a need for our department." And, everyone's head was bobbing, "Yep, Yep." Well, at least until they got to me, the only Black male in the division [well, there's one other, but he racially identifies with his white italian mother rather...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Little Fella: I have "power" and influence over myself and my family. I have no job as a "Civil Rights Actor-vist", standing in front of a crowd, telling Black folks how damaged we are as a people. You can judge me on that which I have influence over in my domain. I just signed up for Junior Acheivement. I will have the opportunity to get in front of young people and "indoctrinate them" toward my way of thinking. IF my bit of influence upon this kids, mixed in with the greater influence of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
Quite right, but it is some Australians, not all Australians. Perhaps the most important process that has been stalled is Reconciliation. A lot of Australians want our federal government to say 'Sorry' to the members of the Stolen Generation, and the indigenous population. There has been a century-long struggle for rights for Aborigines in Australia. What has it achieved? One thing is the right to vote. That it took until the late 1960s is outrageous. Another issue is a treaty. Australia has...
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Re: Black Jesus: "Son of Man"

Isome ·
Jesus WAS a radical. He wasn't supporting the status quo by overturning the moneychanger's table in the temple and Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego were definitely engaging in civil disobedience... It doesn't sound off the mark to me. Besides, I'm sick of Black people spending so much of their lives living in a FUTURE paradise. ( thanks Stevie ) Work needs to be done right NOW and for our lives RIGHT HERE!!
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Re: Experience with Gypsies?

AudioGuy ·
Consider it brought!!
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Re: How about those Blue Devils?????

MBM ·
Them's fighting words Catchings! Seriously though - the game really exposed Duke's seemingly consistent/persistent Achilles heel: athleticism and post presence. Sheldon Williams is a beast - I think, but maybe he just has NO help. Whatever the situation - Duke always gets killed in the paint. Gtown crushed them in points in the paint and rebounds today. Also - Duke has these white boys running around trying to hang with Gtown's athletes. It looked rather foolish. At one point in the late...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

James Wesley Chester ·
How do African Americans create a "unity paradigm" that works for the highly stratified "black diaspora?"---Nmaginate The group I am referencing is that group that is of unknown African ancestry. That group may be expanded to include any other person of African ancestry who a citizen of, or resident in, the United States. And I guess I should add all those involved should be speaking to the best needs for African America, as indicated in your initial phrase of the quote. Having said that...
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Re: What makes caucasians white?

Empty Purnata ·
On racial categories, one case-in-point on how broad "racial" categories are is Central Asians. Central Asians (peoples from Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Kahazakstan, Turkey, Iran, etc.)are Caucasoid, yet they don't resemble Western Europeans very much. Central Asians have rounded (actually, semi-Monogoloidic eyes), big noses, fullish lips, wavy and/or curly hair, and brown skin. About 100,000 years ago, some Central Asians traveled eastward into Asia (which...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Nmaginate ·
I was thinking Black Businesses could partner with HBCU's and sponsor scholarships for current and prospective students who would agree to both attend an HBCU and commit to working for either that particular company or those in the UNITY Network.... or, since you brought it up, to work in inner-city schools or communities. Still, all this implicates quite a bit of capital resources which don't seem to be readily available though significant efforts can be made it seems. And, to reiterate,...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
Great idea! I didn't even quite think of that. Now, the money could, in part, come from federal grants, but alot of it would have to come probably from our own tax money and out of business profits. I wouldn't mind tax money going into something that actually helps US.
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Re: Civil Rights Focus Shift Roils Staff At Justice

Kweli4Real ·
Politics Alleged In Voting Cases Justice Officials Are Accused of Influence By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, January 23, 2006; A01 The Justice Department's voting section, a small and usually obscure unit that enforces the Voting Rights Act and other federal election laws, has been thrust into the center of a growing debate over recent departures and controversial decisions in the Civil Rights Division as a whole. Many current and former lawyers in the section charge that...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
So we all get stiffed...........i get stiffed because im dark skinned, but im told to settle, and grab a janitor. Your brother gets stiffed because of his height.......and he moves on to asian women. (knowing that there are tons of black women.....that could careless about his height.............but hes looking for a black beauty, therefore he will never settle). As the article brought out.....YOU men over look the average sista, because of her weight, etc.........and then want to complain.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
I will respectfully disagree with portions of your post. To suggest men only view things in the short term is suspect. To further assert that looks rule over all is suspect. Many of us said that core values & personality carry the day. The physical is the initial attractor, but not the permanent attractor. What that means is a less attractive women with personality has to work a little harder to get a guy to stick around to notice those core values. The same applies for men. Is that...
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Re: father claims rights denied

Nikcara ·
Sorry, but men whether they are good fathers or bad get screwed on child support. The Bad need to get screwed and I have no problems putting them in jail, yes I said jail. I had a man arrested the second he walked into the courtroom, but that is another story. Good fathers get truly screwed because they want their kids but the mothers use the children as pawn for money. It is totally discretionary for the mother. But men, unlike women will not usually fight for their children. Our...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
No attacks... Just a whole bunch of laughin'!!!! Maybe you ought to take some time and research this Secret Agent Man's postings on that very type of subject - approach. If you know me the idea of SOVEREIGNTY is crucial to my conception of Reparations. Black people were effectively dispossessed of their(our) land too... Native Americans via Reservations, etc. have [at least] a modicum of sovereignty ... [African Americans] haven't even been treated with [that] much respect or in the same...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

HonestBrother ·
About 200,000 black troops served in the Union forces during the Civil War. Encouraged by such abolitionists as Frederick Douglass to enlist, blacks composed about 12 percent of all Union soldiers. More than 38,000 died of wounds, disease, or sometimes execution when they were captured by Confederates. Twenty-three won the Medal of Honor for heroism. Although the men were forced to serve in segregated units, discriminated against in pay, assignments, and rank, the black troops were an...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Nmaginate ·
Well, I just up the STICKER SHOCK ante. Horowitz & Co. want to attach value to the lives of those soldiers who, in his estimation, fought against Slavery... value for the lives lost in an effort to eradicate Slavery... Well, let's count every Black soldier and every enslaved or "free" African/African-American who lost their lives during Slavery. We can even set up a calculus to estimate those who resisted Slavery, actively, openly or passively. Now, let me see the Calculators!! Let's...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

James Wesley Chester ·
I think that Lincoln gets way to much credit for this. He wrote in a letter, just before the beginning of the Civil War, that his "greatest concern is to save the Union. If I believed that preserving slavery would accomplish that goal, I would do so." The only thing Lincoln deserves credit for is being far sighted enough to realize that if slavery wasn't abolished, the slaves themselves were going to tear his beloved Union down around his ears.---Black Viking I really appreciat your post. I...
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Re: UBUNTU

MBM ·
Any thoughts on this point?
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Re: UBUNTU

Nmaginate ·
I think the pre-Civil Rights act idea makes a solid case. There is plenty of LIVING SURVIVORS and plenty of WELL DOCUMENTED internment-like practices that composed that bulk of American History, to say the least. I could say more, I guess, but, since you introduced the term UBUNTU via the Reparations group, I'd like to know what type of lessons from South Africa and its Truth & Reconciliation Commission or other precepts do you think we can draw on. Also, with respect to UBUNTU ,...
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Re: father claims rights denied

Nikcara ·
By Sunnubian I am not sure where you practice law, but in NJ, child support is calculated based on both incomes, thereafter, the non-custodial parent, pays in cash or check directly to the cusotidal parent or to the child support office[in NJ it is called the Probation Department], who converts the cash into a check that is either deposited directly into the custodial parent's account or mailed to him or her. The Custodial Parent has the discretion to spend the money as he or she see fit.
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Re: PBS: African American Lives

Faheem ·
PBS TO OFFER SPECIAL PROGRAMMING FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH February 1 – February 28, 2006 Alexandria, VA - January 25, 2006 - From history to culture to drama to independent film, PBS features year-round programming both created by and about African Americans. In honor of Black History Month, PBS will broadcast a variety of new and encore presentations that celebrate the rich history of African Americans. The centerpiece for this month of special programs is a four-hour series by Henry Louis...
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Re: Al-Zawahri Mocks Bush Over Terrorism War

Black Viking ·
He'll do what he's always done, with exactly the same results. If there was anything I could do to keep him from botching this thing any further I would. He should be impeached and put on trial for treason. Lucky for him I'm not in charge. Typical terrorist. Offer conditional truce but fail to specify the conditions. Official U.S. policy is that we don't negotiate with terrorists. The reality is that we don't negotiate with anyone . Why does Al-Qaida even bother with this nonesense? Please...
 
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