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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Faheem ·
Right about what? That anyone can be the victim of a crime? CF, don't care about Marion Barry, he is a liberal politiian, CF, might say Marion being robbed was pay back for his robbing the people while in office. There will be those who question the validity of his story and see it as an attempt to get sympathy before he is sentenced later this Month...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
"I wonder how many Black people really give a schit about how they are LOOKED at ..." by Kevin41 "I wonder why there is sooo much laughter when the guy speaks.....I guess it is hard to take a tom serious .... when you know their first and foremost motive is to defend the stats quo and their white masters ....I thought the term conservative idiot applied here........." by Kevin41 ************************** ".....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... ..... the...
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Re: Should Black People...

Guest ·
IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMERCE - YES. We should show them that it is safe to SHOP in our communities so that they can HAND US THEIR MONEY. We should show them that a Black business who opens up IN THEIR COMMUNITY is going to provide the best service - SO THEY CAN HAND OVER THEIR MONEY TO US. We should have our schools in working order where they will attempt to TRANSFER INTO OUR SCHOOLS in order to give THEIR kids an early exposure how COMPETITIVE the real world is and that they need to be...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: Should Black People...

Kevin41 ·
**Wow....that is all I got to say Nmaginate......something's wrong with the cat...he has to be a white boy pretender....i'm going to give black people more credit....then there are the uncle tom(ases), coonerlys and williams types.......so I guess I'll just rescind that statement altogether.........damn...
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Re: Should Black People...

AudioGuy ·
You are quite obviously mis-named... The "feedback" you have given is useless. How exactly would you propose the we do what you have imagined?? White people are not going to transfer their kids to a majority Black school under any circumstances - no matter how good the school is, that will NOT happen... What "goal" are you referring to?? Many times this is already the case, white people just refuse to believe it... If we just got BLACK people to believe what you are saying, we would not NEED...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I would conclude that many young black women make very poor dating choices early in their dating lives. It seems, like Dr Audrey Chapman*******[link below with highlighted quote] has concluded, that many black women are looking to be a savior in their quest to attempt to try to change a bad boy into a good man..as oppose to starting out with a good man and building from there. She [Dr. Chapman]feels that black women would like to feel that their love can change people...only later to...
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Re: Should Black People...

powerflower ·
The context was how we behave in public in general, getting on an elevator, entering a building, walking down the street, etc. As far as commerce is concerned, an good business person should have good customer service skills period. As a business person, if the clients you want are multi-racial then you need to cater to them so that you can get their business. That means treating them with respect, in certain cases trying to anticipate their desires, etc. That goes for Black and White and...
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Re: Sago Mine Explosion - Another Bushco Production?

Guest ·
Isome: Do you get paid by someone to do what you do? Do you see any particular benefit that is translated to the people that you are concerned about based on what you do? How much money do you figure that SENATOR Robert KKK Byrd has received from these same companies? You see if you were OBJECTIVE (and we all know the deal) you would inspect the donations to Byrd as well. You would also attempt to place this ONE INCIDENT into the CONTEXT of the general condition of safety of the industry.
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Guest ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
See what I mean everyone? This guy is trying to pull on emotional heartstrings in others that are not even there. You all are too preoccupied with your own lives to let what anyone say in a message board have a bearing on you and negatively affect your mentality. Now I specifically outlined the relative comparisons and all I get is a hateful response that is supposed to elicit anger from me. Well, that is not going to happen. The other tactic Lofton employs, which someone else (EP, I think)...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely, it is the Black community that is nutty, backwards, sleazy, cowardly, disloyal, and/or treasonous towards itself...... ...and since I believe in the laws of this land, I don't make any attempt to justify illegal activity. ...instead it is better served to seek redress, as opposed to asking the perpetrators why they did it. ......more important than the why, is the proving that they did. Last time I checked, more so that not, those behind bars are there, because it was proven...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Notice how they get longer as a way to be more distracting...man behavioral science is something else........ **What I have learned is that once you find out the motivation behind a person's behavior, you are not distracted by the behavior itself and less inclined to become angry because of it. you understand what they are striving for as a goal, eliminate their possibility of accomplishing it...and go on about your merry day." by Kevin41 ************************************ I pay Kevin41,...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"You can take your small cracks at what I think about my abilities and all that ....but for years and years, you haven't been around to watch me burn the midnight oil.... so fuck you ....because I have told you stories of people that I knew were semi-illiterate that became scientists and engineers......people probably say that bullschit to them....but none of them were around to watch those individuals, struggle and put forth efforts towards their self-improvement that most others in their...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Hey...i'm a spambot also: 1. It is his attempt to have the last word as EP stated when describing childish behavior. 2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. 3. In the spirit of blast emailing, his...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"1. It is his attempt to have the last word as EP stated when describing childish behavior. 2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. 3. In the spirit of blast emailing, his posts and long and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
1. It is his attempt to have the last word as EP stated when describing childish behavior. 2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. 3. In the spirit of blast emailing, his posts and long and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"1. It is his attempt to have the last word as EP stated when describing childish behavior. 2. The infammatory nature of his posts is intended to distract from the content of the previous post that cannot rebut. Based on the hateful nature of his posts, an appropriate response would be emotional and inflammatory and therefore sucessfully take the discussion away from the points he cannot rebut or renders his statements moot. 3. In the spirit of blast emailing, his posts and long and...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
** This is why we must push to educate the black populous. For the last few years, the CalStart program that sends lower-income people to the CalState schools had a surplus of money. While a teacher in that system, I was able to get people to encuorage others they knew to apply for and utilize the monies available. Between that and contributing to black organizations for thelast 20 years and taking young black males to Camp Sigma to learn about self-esteem, acacdemic acheivement and gang,...
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Re: AN UNEVEN HAND: THE DISCIPLINE GAP IN SEATTLE SCHOOLS

Nmaginate ·
In the other thread, you referenced a White Blog with a bunch of BS written about the study. Though this was an attempt to be intelligent as opposed to just speaking in the talking point Language of Right vs. Left STUPIDITY, the following quote from one of the respondants shows exactly how bankrupt their objections are: Somehow, it didn't occur to our friend that, by the same consideration/comparison token, there is no way to make a case against the racial discrimination claim (as he and his...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Nmaginate ·
Intuitively, if not consciously, each and every Denier/Minimizer knows. For White Deniers/Minimizers, they know they benefit from continued racism/WHITE SUPREMACY. The way some act, they are addicted to, if not dependent on the idea. The very notion itself, the very idea of White Denial is racist in and of itself. It is an attempt to install WHITE SUPREMACY. Not only are Black people lazy, in their eyes, but Black people, for some reason, seem to want to believe Their Lying Eyes over what...
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

Sweetwuzzy ·
Yup. All the time. Racism is such a dirty word, and unlike the past, it is taboo to be openly racist, so racist must pretend that they are not racist and that racism does not exist.
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Seriously, you would have to tell me when an actual process of a Dialogue even began, in earnest. And that's the thing. In my thinking, an earnest attempt would require dealing with that one thing that caused us (you and I) some trouble earlier - WHITE SUPREMACY. My view, when talking about Race RELATIONS, there has to be a real conversations about RELATIONSHIPS. Power Relationships. In short, there can be no dialogue when a Slave - Master Relationship, a "Superior-to-Subordinate"...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
fair enough - I just took that if something had 'halted' then whatever it was had already begun. Keep in mind I have zilch experience and knowledge of a lot of US politics - local and national - just a rough 'outline', so things like Affirmative Action, or when Clinton asked in 1997 'to begin a great national conversation on race and conciliation' that I have a limited view - limited to access on information, limited in viewpoint as an outsider, and a white outsider to boot. I have to ask a...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
NO! It is exactly that unbalance relationship that leads to a stalled, halted or forsaken "dialogue." Arguably, people could say Dr. King and Pres. Lydon Johnson started a "dialogue." For sure, a number of common folk or community leaders, mostly educators and religious leaders have had "dialogues." But hardly any thing that can be regarded as a serious "dialogue" where it counts, in the halls of power. As for Clinton's deal, you can research and look for opinions about that "conversation".
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Re: Racism Out Of "Racism-Deniers"

James Wesley Chester ·
Anyone else see how denial of racism is just a thinly-veiled attempt to perpetuate it?Empty Purnata Of course, it is. And...they know it. It's the way the game is played. There is no problem...until there is a problem. Then it's 'one of those things' that happen. Nothing to be concern. Aren't you and I friends??? There is no problem and there won't be a problem as long you understand there is no problem. Right? And...there won't be a problem if you don't begin to think you should be treated...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
My question is do the general public white Americans take the opportunity to ask questions about race of any kind? This may not be 'dialog' but it's a way to begin to find out how other people think. To ask what's it like to be black is a valid question for someone who isn't. It's an attempt to understand another viewpoint. It's a start... not a whole conversation. I do understand the above. I see there being two sides to the process. Clarifying one's own beliefs certainly. And having the...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Guest ·
Rowe: I don't have the same views as your date. It is not about "working hard". PLENTY of people "work hard". For me it is about CULTURE and the PROCESS for achieving these cultural directives. Many Asian families have the concept of "Shame upon the family". This "pressure" is put upon the kids to have them act in line with some sort of principles and dignity as they conduct their lives. SURELY all of them do not abide by this all of the time but atleast it can serve as a course correction...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Black Viking ·
Just out of curiosity, do you ever have anything good to say about the black community? You seem to do alot of nitpicking in order to hold the worst of us up as a poster child for blacks everywhere. The above statement is completely false. Not "snitching" is a criminal behaviour, not a black behaviour. You find it in all criminal orginizations, from petty street gangs all the way to international syndicates. And, I shouldn't have to add, all races and cultures. Do actually know anyone who...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
You really do have problems READING and COMPREHENDING. Like the proverbial pat on the head some would say the author here is trying, auditioning so hard for, huh? When you know what the hell you're talking about then tell me what I "may be surprised to find." ...(*ahem*) (clearing throat, major phelm from having to repeat or say something so obligatory to where I need to take a second and make sure it comes out loud and clear)... "What Does HATE Have To Do With It?" GET A FUCKIN' CLUE. Get a...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
More like have enough self-respect and self-esteem as to not discredit his/their own intelligence by thinking dumb shit like that will fly. At least make a more compelling case, if there is one... (Oops! There isn't one). It's really sad and I sorta feel sorry for people who have problems saying things beyond the little juvenile simplistic, half-a-first-thought ridiculous ideas they think would or should resonate. Here's a short list of this Child's Themes (with him thinking he's talking to...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
CF, why is it okay for you to make constant racial comparisons between the accomplishments of African-Americans and other minorities, but it's not okay for others to do the same? I notice that you will only accept racial comparisons when it supports your argument. If you're going to measure the achievements of Blacks against the achievements of others, then expect for people to become defensive and do the same.
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Yeah, ISOME... be some people view that ASSERTION OF ONE'S HUMANITY as some type of troubling REBELLION. How dare a ni@@er not subscribe to "This Is A White Man's World." The European is not going to change his ways until he decides that he no longer wishes to remain a distinct genetic group. He has a right to decide this. He does not have a right to trample over other people. [But yet, nothing is said...] They know the consequences of yielding their guard and accepting full "integration".
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Re: Plane Hits Building...

Empty Purnata ·
Now THAT was a good attempt to prove it was a plane. It almost had me convinced, ALMOST. Now, I am thinking it may have been some sort of plane, but I'm still unconvinced that it was specifically a 757. That hole is just way too damn small to have been a 757 (unless the Pentagon is made out of titanium that's 8 feet thick). Do you know how force would be behind a 600,000-lb vehicle traveling over 300 mph? I don't see how anyone can ignore the lack of wing damage, and the fact that cameras...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

MBM ·
As a parent of two young school age boys I have seen this phenomenon first hand. Little white boys can swing from the ceiling and they are "cute". Let a little black boy do anything - exibiting energy and vibrance outside a very narrow prescribed box of behavior - and it's a problem. The elephant in the room is white racism against black children. Black kids never get the benefit of the doubt that white teachers would want for their own kids (hence they generously shovel it out for other...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

Yemaya ·
I didn't say that there wasn't bias against single parents. Please quote the line immediately following which states: "Unfortunately, there are teachers and administrators who are biased against black children and boys, especially." I don't have a problem with what you're saying Sunnubian, but please respectfully don't misquote me and attempt to take my comments out of context. I am the single parent of two black boys myself and I know the daily grinding that I have to do with my sons'...
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Re: The Elephant in the Room While Black Kids Misbehave? Single Parent Homes

sunnubian ·
--------------------------------------------- I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was really agreeing. I guess I assume 'the you is understood' as the discussion progresses and forget that written communication does not always come across the same as face to conversation, but anyway, I should have posted it like this maybe: And besides, or Also, etc., if there were not a bias against single parents and children that came from single parent homes, the irrevelant statement about 'single parent...
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Re: B'docks, MLK and Triflin' N!@@a RHETORIC!

Huey ·
the "Return of the King" episode was among the best animated episodes of the Boondocks. It was written, I supposed, as a dream of Huey Freeman's if MLK survived the assassination attempt.
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Re: What is a Sellout?

Black Viking ·
I agree. This why I never use the term "sell-out". In order to determine that a Black person is a sell out, you first have to define what a Black person should think and do. The problem is that as soon as we do that we buy into to someone else's stereotype of what we are. IMO, using a term like sell-out just undermines a person's individuality in an attempt to feel more authentic ourselves.
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Re: What is a Sellout?

sunnubian ·
________________________________________________ No, it has nothing to do with defining what a Black person should should think or do, but it has more to do with what a Black person should not do to hurt ALL or the majority of Black in the process of doing a particular thing. Just like Honestbrother's mention of a 'racial appeaser' would not fit the description of a sellout, but rather a description of basically merely an ass kisser, because being an ass kisser doesn't always or...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

Nmaginate ·
Don't believe that's such a problematic thing. The problem comes in when the range of possibilities, the range of "acceptables" are so broad... no one statement can capture the essence. Now, too often that may be the problem: Trying to give a simple, hard answer to a question that is at least as fluid as it is complex (complex in the sense that it's broad and one almost has to speak in broad generalities in an attempt to arrive at definition). And honest observations would reveal that...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Pace Tua ·
No we're not. We're talking about when a embryo or fetus BECOMES a human being, or a "person". So, give it a rest, already! You know full well that any attempt to "make sense of this issue" is futile. Who is and isn't a human being is legislated, now and in the past.
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

MBM ·
Someone earlier in the thread talked about understanding the full context of a quote. That's great advice. PT - the point is that we weren't discussing souls or spirits or life before birth or after death. The realm of discussion was human beings. Clear? Futile? If other human beings make these kind of judgments why can't we offer our thoughts about it? Why are you so afraid of this issue? Is it the religous aspect or are you just that uncomfortable with moral/ethical questions? To reiterate...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Black Viking ·
I like your version better. It's more honest. I am amazed that an grown, educated man thought he was going to make it all better with the ages old Kindergardner defense of "He started it!" I don't know what's worse, the fact that he said that to a student or his lame assed attempt at defending it.
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Re: Props to our brother and Reverend Joseph Lowery...

humblelynn ·
I just finished watching Bill O' Reilly attempt to tell Al Sharpton what type of dialogue should have been appropriate for Mrs. Kings funeral. It amazes me how these right wing neocons will engage in complete verbal character assasination of anyone with a differing opinion, and they spend the rest of their time spinning in order to justify their actions. However, when the heat is on them are ready to cry "unethical." I enjoyed Lowery and Carter's truths, and they never once allowed the focus...
 
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