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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

kresge ·
IMO, the attraction is rooted in the signifying, displacement, projection or othering that is part of white supremacy. If one sets up these binaries of white/black, good/bad, chase/sexual and libidinous, saintly/sinner one will see this phenomenon of love/hate. Women of color have historically been portrayed as sexual, erotic, alluring, dark and mysterious as well as ugly, undesirable, and repulsive. The "other" both attracts and repells. It fascinates and terrifies.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

MidLifeMan ·
Ok Frenchy...as usual I will be the sole voice to agree with your statement that there is a double standard. And as you have said, we are talking about WHAT IS For example: Woman has sex with lots of me = whore Man has sex with lots of women = stud I saw a report that said that men and women's have different brain so women look at things in the long term were as men look at the short term. I think we often forget we are creatures of nature. I'm not trying to make an excuse for this behavior...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
I also want to be clear that many of the examples I put out are people with ADVANCED degrees who are making serious contributions to the world but who might make $40,000-$90,000 versus $100,000-$150,000/yr - and some of them ARE Doctors but not MDs. It's just that these people deal in the world of ideas/knowledge and don't have monetary gain or more conventional types of prestige/status as a motivator. I was deliberately trying to gauge the female response to a group of very educated and...
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Re: Asking too much?

thayfen ·
Asking too much? You're not asking for anything"”you're stating terms, terms which indicate a standard which you hold yourself to. Good for you! As an individual it is your right to decide which actions you will take in directing the course of your life. Just hang tight, and remember: Your body, your decision.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Max ·
Hello, Max here! I just wanted to make sure I understand what Frechy is saying: When black men lust after Halle Berry-types, they are not reprimanded, because it is expected/accepted-practice for black men to aspire to have a woman like Halle without any REAL justification. But... When black women lust after Denzel-types (even when the black women who ARE justified in wanting someone like him), they're harshly criticized as being materialistic, shallow and hated-on for overlooking that...
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Re: Asking too much?

Black Viking ·
I agree with theyfen 100% on this. Everyone sets standards for themselves, and there is no law that says your standards have to be the same as anyone else's. Do your thing, girl!
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

Rowe ·
The public has launched attacks against the fashion industry's narrow standard of beauty for quite some time. In the 80's, for example, there was a great concern for White teenage girls who suffered from anorexia nervosa and bulemia as a result of them trying to look like the super models being featured in popular fashion magazines. Feminists, parents, and other concerned members of the community criticized fashion editors harshly for not featuring "normal-sized" women in their magazines,...
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Frenchy ·
Well, we're clearly much worse off than we were before. Unemployment is up. Wages don't cover the same standard of living for most people anymore, but you're putting in longer hours at the office/on the field. Social programs are being cut. Public broadcasting is actually being threatened if they don't air programs favorable to the administration. Protests and outrage are useless as we have officials who pay no attention to that and follow their own agenda, so people have become apathetic.
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Re: State of the Union: NPR WANTS YOUR VIEW

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Speak for yourself. "Worse off before" what? In the past 5 years I have had 2 children, gotten a new job with a 5 figure raise, paid off the majority of my debt and gotten more spiritually focused. Maybe rather than looking to what the GOD-verment can distribute to you it is time to look for another more effective source for grace? The United States might be facing more challenges as other powers around the world rise up from the previos period of colonialism and players in the big battle...
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Re: What is a Sellout?

Nmaginate ·
Don't believe that's such a problematic thing. The problem comes in when the range of possibilities, the range of "acceptables" are so broad... no one statement can capture the essence. Now, too often that may be the problem: Trying to give a simple, hard answer to a question that is at least as fluid as it is complex (complex in the sense that it's broad and one almost has to speak in broad generalities in an attempt to arrive at definition). And honest observations would reveal that...
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Re: Hypothetically...Ofcourse

HeruStar ·
Article And since the Air Force Academy's coach is hardly the only one who noticed that African-Americans are integral to football success (just the one who got hammered for noticing it publicly), Lapchick also reported on significant academic disparities between black and white athletes. Among the 56 bowl teams, half had graduation rates for white players that were more than 20 percent higher than that of black players"”and another 10 schools had discrepancies of more than 30 percent...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Major Barber ·
Perhaps we need to have Affirmative Action in the NBA. I want to be the old short Black guy on the team, so I can make $400,000 a year for sitting on the bench. For the last 50 years, we have known the standard: 4.0 and 1600! What has changed since the mid 50's? I was a former product of Affirmative Action and it destroys your soul. As a young man who scored on over 1200 on my SATs, I received scholarships without trying. I pissed the opportunity away. Later in life having to work hard to...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Major Barber ·
Well, Huey, you are right. But I got the chances because I scored well. The reason why is because I knew the standard was 4.0 and 1600. And yes Huey, this man was stupid. I could have graduated from West Point and be a 1 star general or Colonel in the Army. Yet my stupidity took hold. At UCLA, Asians who are averaging 3.8 and 1400 are being denied entrance for others who are averaging 3.2 and 1100. Is this fair?
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Kweli4Real ·
You're joking, Right? As Huey stated, AA had nothing to do with your "losing your soul" or "pissed [your] opportunit[ies] away." First, I distinctly recall that you to be a non-Black troll so you've begun with a lie. But even if you were Black, your so-called "loss of soul" is better described as insecurity and/or self-hate. Your pissing away of opportunities can be ascribed to youth, ignorance or stupidity, but not the OPPORTUNITY provided by AA.
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Re: Should God?

HeruStar ·
Kresge, I've got questions, and you've got answers that are always highly appreciated. Thanks for giving them freely. I've always wondered about the laws of the Deuteronomic code, and the absurdity of the laws of Leviticus. I gave myself a simple explanation (by all means please feel free to evaluate). Those laws applied to the Jews. The Jews were God's special project. There is no universalism implied in those laws and codes. The laws were more about God's (chosen) being held to and...
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Re: Judge Alito: Bye Bye Affirmative Action

Nmaginate ·
And that has what to do with your earlier comments which you have now, curiously, abandoned? You know, the point where you had to admit that there is no merit-based system in education (Are all grade schools equal?): "Being acccepted to Michigan or UCLA... should be based on [merit]." SHOULD BE but it isn't and you're not even close to demonstrating that you actually believe in "merit". If so, you wouldn't be so selective in your outrage over Affirmative Action. Selective to the point of...
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Re: Rank The Terms

Vox ·
Almost too close to call: African-American (I prefer the hyphen) Black (Close, but not too close to call) African Don't really use, but they don't bother me either: 'Of Color' - as in "people of color" Minority Colored (It implies to me that there's a standard, just plain person, and that we're not the standard archetype; a "Kind of" man, so I don't like it) Negro (I don't like the term, but I'll use it as a derogatory term for blacks that I don't think act in our best interests...) (The...
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Re: Anyone been to Hawaii?

Black Viking ·
No, there aren't many Afican-Americans here at all. Those that are here are usually military, so there only here as long as they're stationed here. The racial climate here is a little strange. Hawaii is predominantly Asians (Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Philipino) and Pacific-Islanders (Samoan, Tongan, Tahitian, Hawaiian), but there are no clear lines drawn. Hawaii is often refered to as the "Melting Pot of the Pacific" for good reason. Nearly all of the people here are mixed in some way,...
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Re: Danish Paper Refused "Offensive" Jesus Cartoons

Empty Purnata ·
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL THAT BULLSHIT RHETORIC ABOUT "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"? I thought they had the attitude of, "Who cares if it offends, we're all adults, get over it."? Just goes to show the double-standard of the "anti-PC" crowd. They hate PC when it comes to insulting others, but can't get enough of it if they themselves feel offended.
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Re: Danish Paper Refused "Offensive" Jesus Cartoons

kresge ·
This is certainly a double standard that negates any journalistic credibility they might have had.
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Re: Danish Newspaper And Mohammed Cartoon

UppityNegress ·
The cartoons were originally commisioned to test the boundaries of free speech in Denmark. An ethnically Danish author who was writing a pro-Muslim children's book on Islam, couldn't find anyone to illustrate it for fear of violence and persecution from the Muslims in Denmark. He questioned whether political correctness in regards to Muslims was hindering free speech in the country. The newspaper drawings were meant as a test--granted, a rather childish one. The smarter option would have...
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Re: Another Danish? Noah's "I wonder what?"

UppityNegress ·
In this day in age, yes I do think American Christians would be more "civil" about it, and considering how secular western Europe has become I'd question whether it would even make a dent outside of religious circles. Will they [Christians, esp. white] raise a fuss? Of course. Will they be super pissed? That goes without saying. Protest? Sure. Threats to actually kill other people, burn down the newspaper facility, and encourage others into suicide missions? You'll be hard pressed to find...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
Air tight? You read that post and thought I used the n-word in everyday conversation and that I condoned its use as a racist term discribing blacks (or in any situation). All I did in my post was offer the point of view that the teacher probably was not a racist. You might have a leak somewhere. I don't object to people who disagree with using the n-word, in fact I agree with them. What I disagree with is the point of view, first of all that the teacher was being racist, when it seems like...
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Re: African immigrants face bias from blacks

nayo ·
No one is spared;'upwardly mobile' African Americans and children/young people can be similarly singled out. I grew up in a neighborhood that was a mix of cultures and economic groups, ie, Mexican American, Filipino, working clas white, 'well-off' to welfare. My family was in the middle, and I took violin lessons, and wore braces, and spoke 'funny'. my mother did'nt allow incorrect tense and all that, which caused me grief, the grief of my peers. My mother also took it on the chin from many...
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Re: For the GOOD Brothas:(Dating outside you race)

ZAKAR ·
As long as black women continue to judge black men according to European standard they will never be satisfied or happy, Black men will never be and can never be white men in this society.See what most of you college educated sistas fail to realize is your education often educates you out being able to relate to a black man. Read Miseducation of the Negro, Carter G Woodson. We are in a time period were black men are forced to think outside the box .We are creative unorthodox, we have to be...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Okay, let's see you do some street-corner comedy doing the same thing. But, as I have to tell people coming from lame angles like yours pretty often... you SELF-FUCKED (i.e. CONTRADICTED yourself). Here you are betraying what you said before in order for your CIRCULAR REASONING to work. You said: Put simply... whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be, that's what the word means in that conversation. To which I countered: Obviously, the meaning...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
IRRELEVANT!!! And everything else you're "trying" - i.e. displaying - with your lawn chair logic is IRRELEVANT as well. Now, whoever you thought you were talking... Where did they(I) say, "You're trying to get us(me) to say it's ok for Whites(you) to use the N-Word." Logically, you can't get that out of anything I said, for certain: The thing is, it's really telling when people like you make an issue out of and try to justify Whites using the N-Word. That is, indeed, what you've "tried" to...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO! The whole point here is that YOU GETS NOWHERE WITH YOUR FAULTY LOGIC, idiotic Circular Reasoning and Anal ABSTRACTIONS! First, foremost and ALWAYS... THE TEACHER'S INTENT IS IRRELEVANT! INTENT defines nor determines NOTHING! INTENT is not the End All, Be All of anything. As the saying goes, The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions. The Teacher's INTENT is IRRELEVANT because: Put simply... whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be,...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
You refuse to acknowledge I've constantly said any of the following, instead "arguing" by restating them as if they were an opposing viewpoint. 1) Yes, the teacher used a word innapropiate to the situation, I've said this several times, as have you. We agree, quit harping on the goddamn point. 2) I HAVE NO FUCKING PROBLEM WITH WHITES NOT BEING ALLOWED TO SAY "NIGGER!" NONE! ZERO! I'VE STATED THIS EXPLICITLY SEVERAL GODDAMN TIMES! QUIT HARPING ON IT AS A VALID REFUTATION OF WHAT I'VE SAID! IT...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint, you seem to be a less intellectually worthy opponent than in the past, unless I am confusing you with someone else. First, do not put words in my mouth. I never made a pro or con argument in regards to free trade, my argument was against your denial of zero sums. The first thing that you need to note about Hong Kong is that it was a City-state, like Singapore. These small populations are easily turned around by direct foreign investment from large wealthy nations, pumping in...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Dude, you didn't come here under the pretense that you were presenting a WHITE PERSPECTIVE. You tried to feign objectivity. Now make up your fuckin' mind what your approach is before you open your mouth. First, you haven't, can't and won't be able to detail how the teacher was "WRONGFULLY ACCUSED". You've went about this predetermined process of GIVING HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT which heavily prejudiced every Got-Damn thing you said. You have taken this teacher's side with no just cause.
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

toussaint ·
It really takes a true spin artist to take an unprecedented decrease in poverty and turn it into a bad thing. Unbelievable. It's sad that folks who sit here with all kinds of comforts are opposed to others striving for those same things. And suggesting that these folks would be better off with less choices... in a barter society? lol... now I remember why I got bored with this board a while back. Every rich nation started off poor like the nations I mentioned. They all had to develop and go...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

HeruStar ·
At first look I agreed with all but one, which was, the right not to have to defend or explain their work. The more I thought about why I didn't like that idea, the more I felt like the other three weren't beneficial either. 1. The right to express themselves without censorship. Translated This right gives anyone the freedom to be deliberately offensive. This right ignores humanity, and the fundamentals of ethics/morality. I'm not saying that we should go to every house and snatch...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Jaco ·
From your last post you repeated the question "HOW ARE WHITES HARMED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO SAY "NIGGER"?" The post before it I answered "By the government officially setting a standard which made a distinction upon the basis of ethnicity... As far as the actual usage of the word goes, I personally wouldn't be hurt at all. Its nice to see we agree on a concept we've both repeated over and over again." You didn't bother reading my post. Nor the posts where I said I didn't think the word nigga...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Ummmm.... That was an answer to a different question. And the question was NEVER about you "personally." See!? You faked like you answered THE SECOND ONE. HOW WOULD...? HOW ARE...? = Different questions. And, again, NEITHER asked about you "personally." But, thanks... Now it's all clear that all your talk about the thing with the teacher being "JUST AS RACIST" and it being "BIGOTRY" is/was nothing but BULLSHIT!! I read all of that. And all of that is IRRELEVANT! You're still speaking about...
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Re: Please, please read and digest

toussaint ·
This is one of the many reasons that central. government controlled banking should have been snuffed out early on in the nation's history. Also, allowing the government to get off of the gold standard gave them god-like control over our finances. For instance, if they want to take your money to shoot an Arab, buy someone's viagra, or pay for a bureaucrat's Starbucks they can either tax you directly or just print more money - a method which taxes your savings indirectly. The wars and the...
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Re: Why Isn't There a White History Month?

ricardomath ·
I was gonna wait 'till the end of the month before reposting this, but what the hell... Back by popular demand... White History Year Resumes WASHINGTON, DC"”With Black History Month over, U.S. citizens are putting aside thoughts of Harriet Tubman and George Washington Carver to resume the traditional observation of White History Year. Above: A stamp honoring European-American aviation pioneer Charles Lindbergh is unveiled as part of White History Year celebrations. White History Year, which...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

HonestBrother ·
Heru, who the hell is to be the judge of what is and is not offensive??? Who is to be the judge of whether my intention was to express a great sentiment or to offend? Maybe what I find to be great art is offensive to 10 other people because they're uneducated boors with small minds? If you don't like it, then GODDAMNIT don't look at it. Problem solved... Be the guardian of your own goddamned soul and leave the rest of us alone.
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

HonestBrother ·
OK. If you say so. Perhaps I misunderstood you but you seemed to be favoring some form of censorship:
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

oddmodd ·
David Horowitz's is an idiot and anyone who adopts this ideology is an idiot. Black people of African decent are owe more money and restitution that America can afford. Every group from the Jews to Native Americans received some form of reparations for the devastating treament inflicted upon them by their attackers. African-Americans have never received a dime and up until the 1994 public apology by the Clinton Administration there has never a verbal condemnation on the part of the American...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

thayfen ·
Detroit1 meant SOME women, and because I live in the area I can attest to what happens on the singles scene on Friday and Saturday nights. This has been going on for well over twenty years. This issue with people (In Detroit, it is mostly women) who testify to holding one standard, but somehow magically end up with an individual who is the exact opposite; as most men know that SOME brothers are great, and others are truly hazardous. There are many who are in strong, loving, real...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
I've long maintained that illegal immigration hurts urban, working class Blacks more than any other group. In addition to taking over those living spaces (since they tend to be cheaper), they lower the wages and even eliminate jobs. For example, blue collar factory jobs used to be able to provide enough money to sustain a whole family. It was these factory jobs that lured rural Blacks into the cities, and enabled them to have a better of standard of living, buy houses etc... Now, these jobs...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Rowe ·
To put it succintly, these men are on another level. Many of them are vegan, they don't drink, they don't smoke cigarettes (or weed), and they avoid intermingling (romatically) with lost people. And by doing this, they avoid the frustration that results from dealing with ignorant and lost women. Some of them are so selective that they will not date a woman who chemically straightens her hair, because a woman who is willing to sacrifice her health in order to conform to a Eurocentric standard...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
This is easy to say if you live in D.C. or New York.... That's it! I need to move... There's no one in this whole part of the country remotely like this
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Black Viking ·
These guys don't get out much do they? They sound to me to be excessively critical over superficial nonsense. But, to each his own...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Rowe ·
What seems "petty" to you is important to others.
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
Faheem, I understand what you mean about how being angry at the illegals won't actually solve the poblem of the American corporations who keep hiring them. My anger isn't directed at their success or even their being here so much as the attitudes and behaviors they exhibit while here. Realistically, if I lived in a country full of poverty and corruption, and I had an opportunity to sneak into another country where I'd have a better standard of living and be able to send money home to support...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

bigddouble ·
You still did not explain what puts these men on "another level" as you put it. You just described more personal preferences. Being vegan is a choice - not necessarily a better one than eating meats. Vegans have their own health issues to deal with. There are some nutrients that are hard to come by in vegan diets. Particularly if they do not consume diary. Drinking in moderation is shown to improve heart health and lipid profiles, so being a non-drinker isn't inherently better either. How do...
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Re: The One....

xxGAMBITxx ·
"Love" is a man made concept that has endured not because it works the majority of the time but because it gives everyone a "warm and fuzzy" feeling. It has its place but it does not have the strength to be the bedrock of a relationship. All those who bring out "love is the cornerstone of my happy relationship" tend to be economically stable, fairly rational, and always tout communication and working as partners. Love is pretty much a fringe benefit. Ask anyone who stays in a bad...
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