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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

FireFly ·
thanks for mentioning these books - I haven't seen them over here. can you expand/explain this a little more please? .
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Art_Gurl, it's a (linked) commentary from the web-mag, The Black Commentator. The author is ANTHONY ASADULLAH SAMAD, an occasional contributer there. As for the books, I can vouch for WHY WE CAN'T WAIT. I've had the occasion to re-read/review it over the last few years. Perhaps it would shed some light on how the "race" conversation was "called to a halt" because MLK's actual ideas don't mesh with those who love to profess a belief in a "colorblind society." Perhaps you can tell me what you...
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Re: 4 Unpopular "TRUTHS"... by Project 2019

Nmaginate ·
Well, Kevin... when that "White Boy", a self-professed CONservative, quoted this line from Project 2019, I exposed him and his whole entire charade and scheme. He latched onto this Project 2019 (and quotes Larry Elder, Star Parker, Williams, McWhorter, etc.) and tried to celebrate saying silly shit like "Black Leaders agree with me" even after I've broke his ass down several months ago where he put his tail between his legs and just cried uncle: "I'm done with "race"..." Well, something...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

RadioRaheem ·
actually I not, I was wonder how you can infer so much from a photograph. that's all. As for IR couples, I'm one of the few proponents of such union. I feel love is colorblind and that why I started this celebration thread topic. question 2: pictured also are black men with white women, some are married to them, can it also be assumed that they are in love too?? I feel that is a valid question since so many of the black women pictured with other race men are 'just dating'. Explanation please
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

qty226 ·
I made an observation, concerning black women..........(because im a black woman). So i'll tell you what.........You make the same observation concerning black men. Why should I........am not a man. Also Radio.......since you feel to celebrate this on a black site...........do you feel the need to celebrate this info on a white one? I think white women should know how YOU feel....Youre not looking at black women, why should i care what YOU think.....or who you want to celebrate?
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

RadioRaheem ·
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

qty226 ·
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

EbonyRose ·
Racial Violence Behind Bars - Time For Straight Talk Between the Black and Latino Communities By Anthony Asadullah Samad The violence that has taken place between Black and Latino inmates in the Los Angeles (and now Riverside and San Bernadino) County Jails has caused both the black and Latino communities to take inventory of their relationship. Future relations will require candor, honesty and some historical reflection that has allowed them to peacefully co-exist for 500 years. Black...
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Re: Black Folks: It is Time to Lay Down the Mantle

Kweli4Real ·
Dell, I'm feeling your message. We, as a people, should focus on our socio/political/economic gain; rather than, fighting for others, who BTW, largely sit on the sidelines during our fights. I haven't heard much from other groups on the Duke matter and don't recall hearing much regarding Katrina. I think many of those banging the drum for others have either: bought into the multi-cultural/colorblind, "we're all in this together against those folk myth"; run out of steam on the Black...
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Re: VOTE

Guest ·
Hello Everyone, As I type the political debate is being aired on KNBC, from 6-9:30 PM, Pacific Time. Very interesting session to which the question and answer session is very open, and frank. Don't care for Arnold Schwarzenegger or Bustamante. The Republican Tom McClintock appears to use common sense approach in reducing taxes, government spending, and improving the economy within California. _______________________________________________ Of Course I Can't Speak for Everyone, but I'm Voting...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
Affirmative action affects women, too Posted on Fri, Jan. 24, 2003 By GRETCHEN BORCHELT Iam a white woman, and I support affirmative action -- because it is a women's issue, too. Although it is often framed solely in racial terms, it is a critical tool that expands opportunities for women. It's important to answer the opponents of affirmative action. Targeting affirmative action plays into existing racial prejudices and ignores the benefits of affirmative action to women. Such a strategy is...
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Re: North American Border Crossings to Require Passports

James Wesley Chester ·
You got that right. It was about color in the 1020s when those 'dark-skinned' Italians, and Greeks, and Armenians, and Albanians, and such wanted to come in. It's about whoever is not European. Either you or Kevin41 rightly tagged 'European' for the 'default' definition for American. It's always about color. Even 'colorblind' is about 'black' folks and 'white' folks. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Cosby Emphasizes Importance of Parenting

EbonyRose ·
I used the pronoun "our" because I am more concerned about "our" children and community more than I am concerned with anybody else's. I have said repeatedly on this board that I really don't give a damn about other people and their problems. But that's not entirely true. I am concerned about all of humanity, actually. But , I have a special affinity to the Black community. My concerns and thoughts when it comes to particular societal ills become more fine tuned when it comes to the Black...
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Re: How Do You Feel About This Song About The "N" Word?

Nmaginate ·
My point was that the stigma exist with or without Black people using the N-Word. That is, what Black people do as far as the N-Word is concerned has nothing to do with the Stigma... And so you gripe about me "editing" your post but yet come back with the same essential response: THAT BLACK PEOPLE KEEP THE STIGMA "IN TACT". Whether its False Causality or not (I couldn't think or a more precise way to characterize it, so "causality" may not be completely fitting), my point stands because you...
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Re: Race relations part 2

ZeusTKP ·
Short answer, colorblind society. And really, race is not discussed I think. But I don't agree 100% with http://lp.org . There are a lot of people in it who are just there because they're gun nuts. I'm not too crazy about that.
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Re: Race relations part 2

Nmaginate ·
First of all, your very presence here, even in the mode and manner you come here betrays what you claim as "the only thing you can do." I already laid out why that is a COP OUT. Indeed, since you've come he with your expressed and somewhat undisclosed intent, this dubious "I COME IN PEACE" nonsense... you have indicated one thing that you are capable of doing even in this same medium among White-oriented message board and forums. If you "want peace" then you want that on all sides especially...
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Re: Race relations part 2

ZeusTKP ·
Cop out from what? The word "realistically" was implied in that sentence. If I didn't have to go to work every day, then I could go around campaigning and not JUST vote. What, in plain English, do you think that my intent is? In your own words, why do you think that I am here? What? What do "white" message boards have to do with anything? I posted the same stuff there. Then I posted here. OK, I take it back. The only thing I'm going to do in the near future is vote, but I can do more, but...
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Re: Race relations

Nmaginate ·
More proof that YOU ARE NOT READY! But just go ahead an OBFUSCATE with your bad self. LOL! It was IN THAT CONTEXT you responded to EP's question saying something that complicates if not CONTRADICTS this idea about "egalitarian" ideas... The clause "TO MAKE IT RIGHT" implicates such things as "egalitarianism" by any objective measure. You pretended as if what you said would do that or at least attempt to accomplish that, if your response was ever made in earnest.
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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

ma'am ·
That post was in response to HB's question as to whether the serving is a male expectation or female tradition. If you'd read my posts, you'd see that I haven't reduced male privilege to just the dinner table. I haven't noticed the other women do that, either. Actually, the only skirting and minimizing that I have noticed is from men, who have the privilege to do so. What I've noticed from the men is that a couple of you are stuck in an Oppression Olympics mindset. Not wanting to acknowledge...
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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

Black Viking ·
I'm aware of that. I was speaking to that example and others that are similar. I didn't do that. I asked a question... "Are there advantages and privileges that are inherent to being a woman?" Chronic Projection much? Granted. Now, do women have any advantages over men? I didn't say that you said that. I asked what those privileges were. If you acknowledge that women have privileges that men don't have, then what's the problem? Are you suggesting that women should have all available...
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Re: Joseph C. Phillips Interview

bigddouble ·
Nice read- I think his observation on our social conservatism is spot on. Unfortunately, it gets used for others gain and our detriment too often. I don't think African Americans are in a position to view the world "colorblind" though. Phillips' also couldn't ( or wouldn't ) define or identify himself as the ever-elusive Black Conservative . The search continues... Maybe this book will hit the local library soon and I can give it a read. I'm curious negrospiritual- Would you interpret...
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Re: Joseph C. Phillips Interview

NSpirit ·
I am unconcerned if you think I am attacking joseph phillips. I find no legitimacy in many of the things he says...He can be heard commenting on NPR shows with Tavis Smiley and Ed Gordon. He is one of those Colin Powell quoting lift yourself up by the bootstraps people with nothing particularly relevant to add. How can he take issue with the "he talk like he white" sentiment and all that that entails if he has a stake in defending white americans? How can he legitimately speak to black this...
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Re: Joseph C. Phillips Interview

msprettygirl ·
I saw it at barnes and noble a while back.
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Re: Joseph C. Phillips Interview

EbonyRose ·
Great interview, MBM!! That was very informative! Personally, I don't think y'all are ever going to find that "elusive Black Conservative" because in their minds they don't exist! He's not the first one to say what he said ... and the bottom line seems to be that the Black Conservative does not consider themselves Black! They will self-identify as Americans first... Conservatives, second, and then there is an acknowledgement that they happen to be Black. But it's not an identification. And...
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Re: If I Were You I Would Not Want This Kind of Fame For Front Page News!

HeruStar ·
Michael, You say ANYONE. Are you implying that our society is colorblind when it comes to well to do blacks? Are you suggesting that there is EQUAL treatment and equal PUNISHMENT, for Whites with assets and Blacks with assets?
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Re: To Those Who Oppose Affirmative Action! (READ THIS!)

Michael ·
"Lofton, let me ask you two simple questions. [Please answer by typing text. Please refrain from providing expansive links to posts that have no relevance to the question." by Kweli4Real Question One: What was/is the purpose of Affirmative Action plans and/or programs as related to African-Americans? ******************************* Well AA has yet to fulfill this purpose, because more so than the masses of African Americans, AA has benefited Caucasian women, middleclass Blacks who practice...
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Re: Letter to White America

Nmaginate ·
Ha! Ha! Reminds me of this stuff said by some [true] "bleeding hearts", I presume: So, EGGIE... tell us more about what Whites are "starting to believe"... as if this very Letter To White America doesn't suggest that Whites do and have always "looked out for themselves FIRST. Dude, you're talking CENTURIES of unmitigated WHITE FIRST considerations and then your sorry ass bemoans some 40 little years, a minute portion of the history, as if it was something where Whites put their own interests...
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Re: The Worst Case Republican Scenario

Nmaginate ·
#1 Anti-Racist #2 Racist #3 Colorblind #4 Racial 'Realist' #5 Racial Bigot #6 Racialist http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php NOW WHAT??!!!
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Re: The Worst Case Republican Scenario

Nmaginate ·
ISOME, Somehow, Jonathan seems to think that Black folks don't deal with and know White folks (as employers and (fellow) employees) on a regular basis. With his little quip about you, more than likely, having to "deal with White folks everyday" (as if stats are needed to comprehend that) there is a huge disconnect and really huge show of sparkling ignorance on his part. But as their ideologies are, whether professed to be ColorBLIND or otherwise, WHITE is somehow suppose to be INVISIBLE. So...
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Re: Bush Submitting Brief Against Univ. of Michigan's AA Policy

MBM ·
Blacks have been in this country since 1619. All that time, except for the last 30 or so years, race has been a primary factor inhibiting our access to equal opportunity in America. Racism - making distinctions based upon race - has been at the core of our society forever and was even built into the Constitution. If we now believe that equal rights should be available to every person, America should be prepared to make ammends for the hundreds of years that it denied blakcs access to things...
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Re: Bush Submitting Brief Against Univ. of Michigan's AA Policy

obvious_1 ·
Here is what I stated earlier. I don't know why it was deleted. Why are you for a program that takes race into consideration? Isn't that what we are supposed to be getting away from? Why do we need it and don't tell me it is suppose to right the wrongs of slavery and Jim Crowe Laws. If that is the case I would rather have slavery reparations and funnel that money into strengthening HBCU, black startup companies, etc. Affirmative Action the way it is now has no place in a democratic society...
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Re: AA babies adopted by caucasian parents

EbonyRose ·
A stable, loving home is unquestionably better than no home at all. It doesn't matter if that home is black, white, blue, green, yellow, magenta, or red and purple polka dotted!! Love is indeed colorblind ... and it is the most important of a young child's needs.
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Re: How NYT's Blair Plagarism Scandal Is Being Blamed On Affirmative Action

ItAintEazy ·
Not only is it grand, it's perfectly normal and is part and parcel to a "colorblind" society.
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Re: How NYT's Blair Plagarism Scandal Is Being Blamed On Affirmative Action

ItAintEazy ·
And what's amazing is that you STILL have those whites, especially those who ginned up this "controversy" in the first place, swear up and down how they don't got a racist bone in their body, that they are colorblind, and all that crap. I don't know what to do, stare at them blankly, yell at them, or do what that councilman at the reparations rally suggested: slap them in the face.
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Re: Blacks and the Bill Clinton Democrat party!

Kevin41 ·
Hello Ebony Rose, I'm originally from the Texas City area by Galveston. I love Texas and the progressive nature of our people there. I now live in Los Angeles which is okay....but the quality of life does not compare. Here is a blurb from an article i just read in an Atlanta newspaper: Since 1964, when Barry Goldwater drew Southern whites with a "states' rights" campaign to block racial integration, the GOP has drawn more and more of its support from the states of the Old Confederacy. To...
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Re: Black men and White Women

little minx ·
i'm a black woman and i have to tell you that it physically hurts when i see a black man with a white woman. i'm not going to complain to his face or to hers. i'm not going to give him a guilt trip about it, because who am i to tell him what to do? but my feelings about it are strong. i'm one of the myriad of black women approaching her thirties, without prospects for marraige. we all know the problem in the black community. there aren't enough brothers. . .nay quality brothers to go around.
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Re: Georgia Students Plan Whites-Only Prom

EbonyRose ·
Okay .... are we talking about a year 2003 prom??? I mean, this is really now??? And so, when Republicans say that we are now living in a colorblind society and everything is now equal and the same and that there are no societal differences and that the past is the past .... can somebody please tell me what in the hell they are talking about??
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Re: Black men and White Women

RadioRaheem ·
In order to improve the mind, we ought less to learn, than to contemplate. -Rene Descartes
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Re: why do people vote like they do?

MBM ·
How convenient to profess allegiance to a "colorblind" America. The purpose of that talk is not to support equality, but to lock in the advantages and preferences that whites have extorted in this country. Now is the time to make real the promises of Democracy.
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Re: why do people vote like they do?

Barwick ·
So you want to give a handout to blacks, because why? Affirmative Action has been around since Kennedy, and it hasn't made much change in recent years. Would you like to teach blacks and other minorities that they're always going to get something easy because they're a minority? I have minority friends who despise AA because everyone thinks they got into and through college because of AA. Yes, I've heard many people say those words. Even though I've listed many examples of black men and...
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Re: A white person with a question

TheCerebro ·
I'm confused. You just said we were evil for discriminating based on ideology. We discriminate against such groups because of our own ideology, which you just discriminated against; therefore you are guilty of the thing you accuse us of. We do not hate liberal or gays, but disagree and find their actions to be both incorrect and mislead. You hovever have just shown hate to a person you do not know, simply because of the digital area he comes from. Think of it as digital racism. Now, going...
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Re: A white person with a question

TheCerebro ·
I think I have gotton more accusations here about being hateful then I have in my whole life. All I did was ask a question and suddenly I am a bigotted, hateful, evil, scum of the earth racist. Simply because I hold certain conservative views does not mean I hate people, it means I disagree with them. First to Vox, when I came on the forum all the topics at the top were on, common responses by whites to racism, why colorblind doesn't mean you are not racist, and the like. Maybe it's just a...
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

Nmaginate ·
I'm opening up discussion on the root idea - Colorblind society theory... For some reason you haven't learned that I always have stuff to back up my position. As a matter of fact, Johnny "Come F~ckin' Lately" I have listed exactly what I have alluded to here so many times and so predictably so when debating Whites and/or conservatives (or other confused Negroes) that I am bored by the repetition. But since you need to know... The Forgotten Teachings of Martin Luther King "Why We Can't Wait"...
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

Noah The African ·
I do not think that there is an argument of concerning the goal of a colorblind society, at least not from me. My problem is at what point should that become the goal. My contention is that to promote the philosophy, while radical inequalities in regards to color still exist from the cumulative effects of racism against blacks through history, is PREMATURE. Moreover, the concept at this juncture simply prevents targeting a people for elevation, which have been traditionally targeted for...
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

Nmaginate ·
Thanks NOAH... At least someone can approach this subject with some intelligence unlike SARG., who has to act like an ASS when something challenges his perspective. That's cool though! It's funny how you try to challenge me... LYING ASS MotherF~cka! Get your shit straight before you go around declaring who does and who does not have a clue. GET YOUR aSS to the LIBRARY!! NOAH, I'm glad you spoke in terms of the GOAL of a COLORBLIND SOCIETY... There's a difference between a goal and the MEANS...
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

jazzdog ·
Noah makes a valid point that until all the effects of pass racism are corrected instilling a colorblind society doesn't fix anything. If the idea is fully embraced and implemented maybe future acts of racism may go away (I doubt it) but it does not address the past. For instance if a colorblind society came about next year, would it provide for the release of all those brothers and sister wrongly convicted and sent to prison based on their race. Would it go back and issue mortgages to black...
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Re: Mugabe Does A Bush-Talk and Angers Powell

Nmaginate ·
What ignorance are you talking about? Where did you go on the COLORBLIND thread?? GOT SCARED??? Just because I don't celebrate the ineffective TWO-PARTY system as it relates to Black people or rather properly see it as ineffective does not mean I am not "politically involved" or unaware. You should refrain from trying to shame people cause I got your goat everytime you stepped up... REMEMBER, Punks JUMP UP to get BEAT DOWN! ...and I never run out. (... Where ya at?? ...)
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

Kweli4Real ·
I reject Conservative America's plea for and/or offer of a colorblind society as patently disingenuous. This is merely its attempt to convince its continuing victims (or maybe, itself) that it no longer plan to harm them, while leaving in place the institutions that its victimization created. But I must say that its strategy and tactics are brilliant: adopt the name of civil rights, adopt to language of civil rights activists (selectively), frame the question and control the debate.
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Re: The FALLACY of the "COLORBLIND": False Theory & Bad Practice

Guest ·
You read the book Nmaginate? Good isn't it? Conservatives are pimping Dr. King's ideology and words as if they were Magic Don Juan! It's all part of the strategy in their self-proclamed "Softer face of Conservatism" which to me just means liberalism. Who in the world do they think that they're fooling? As far as a colorblind society is concerned, there are more ways to determine a person's race and economic status by these companies and banks than you can shake a stick at. For example, your...
 
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