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Re: United Nation of Islam (U.N.O.I.)

Whirling Moat ·
Peace.... "Sorry I forgot to mention one of Maat's most important attributes.... Balance"-Heru Star _________________________________________ Balance is one of the primary attributes Of Maat. Balance and peace are the same condition if one understands properly. This is why I said at the "Root" Maat means Peace. I have never implied that Muhammad worshipped a feminine deity...It is a mistake to look at the Neteru as individual Gods. The Ntrw represent aspect of a single power which expresses...
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Re: Russel Simmons smacks the terrorist group ADL (Anti-Defamation League) down...

Yssys (Guest) ·
Faheem, I'm sure that you are aware that this is not the first time that the ADL has put down Louis Farrakhan and the NOI. From what I've read on the ADL website I truly believe that the ADL is anti-muslim, anti-black and anti-arab. I know a few black people who are honorary members, mostly from the Civil Rights generation, of the ADL or either have supported some of their causes financially and offered moral support. I think that the leadership of this organization has gotten so comfortable...
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Re: Russel Simmons smacks the terrorist group ADL (Anti-Defamation League) down...

EllaBrown ·
i think the adl's allegiance to israel is why they are starting to take this hard-line stance against what they perceive as noi's "alliances" with arab-americans, calling out injustices against black and brown people everywhere and mentioning the plight of palestinian people, esp. when minister farrakhan starts talking about palestinian statehood.
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Re: New Language for "African-Americans"

ricardomath ·
I'm not sure that I understand the point of the language. The webpage isn't really clear. It sounds like more of an artistic exercise than an attempt to create a real language. (Indeed, I can't even imagine a language starting with the publication of a dictionary in this way.) As for real languages, spoken by real people, there is no need to artificially create languages. There are plenty of real languages already in existence. The real problem is how to preserve the languages that already ...
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Re: THEY HAVE A VERDICT!!!

Michael ·
"....and I guess Lofton is too caught up in his own stupidity to admit he was wrong....and understand that the UNCF alone aids poor kids going to underfunded black colleges.....he doesn't understand that when I went to school at a black college...many came there the first in their family to attend college, were dirt poor and some even needed remedial courses to bridge the gap from their sorry azz school system.....and as so far as the inner city charities.....they do not aid middle class...
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Re: Ralph Nader drops the 'N' word at Washington fundraiser...

EgbertSouse ·
Hey Jim, did you get your foot out your mouth yet? LOL!!! Actually, Nader being an Arab, I'm sure he identifies with his black brothers in America. But he probably needs to change his first name to Kareem, Abdul or Osama. "Ralph" is too white sounding.
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Re: Ralph Nader drops the 'N' word at Washington fundraiser...

Kevin41 ·
Yeah....Ralph is pretty plain and dull.....
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Re: Ralph Nader drops the 'N' word at Washington fundraiser...

Sweetwuzzy ·
Sorry for the generalization, but Arabs and black africans don't mix, let alone African Americans.
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Re: Bush was determined to go to war

Kevin41 ·
Presidential Disconnect June 29, 2005 President Bush's pep talk to the nation Tuesday night was a major disappointment. He again rewrote history by lumping together the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the need for war in Iraq, when, in fact, Saddam Hussein's Iraq had no connection to Al Qaeda. Bush spoke of "difficult and dangerous" work in Iraq that produces "images of violence and bloodshed," but he glossed over the reality of how bad the situation is. He offered no benchmarks to...
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Re: Anti-Gay Arson Terrorist Attack on UCC Church

ricardomath ·
Shemika, I was browsing the website of your precious Traditional Values Coalition, where I learned about a dangerous Fifth Column in US society, and even the military.
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Re: What do you think will happen after you die?

Nmaginate ·
Well, that would make sense and seem true if most or all Africans brought to the Americas were Muslims or somehow had their indigenous faiths changed by Arab incursions. Please supply us with the HISTORICAL information, a reference other than the Bible with NON-descript statements (i.e. how do we know who is being talked about and, more importantly... WHEN)... You would also have to demonstrate how any African Muslims were Christians before they converted or were converted to Islam... as...
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Re: What do you think will happen after you die?

Vox ·
No it wouldn't make a bit of sense, because remember, she said that the tsunami was God's wrath against the mainly Muslim peoples there. She's saying that this is about Christianity, not God himself (plus, God himself exists in the indigenous beliefs anyway). These people had never been exposed to Christianity. They had never heard of Christianity. Even if the individuals who were kidnapped were Muslims, they individually did not have any exposure to Christianity. The only way what DivineJoy...
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Re: When is a 14 year old girl a woman?

Faheem ·
This is not an Islamic question nor a religious question. The media did not use tenants of Islam nor how young women are viewed in the Arab world when they decided to make a young girl age 14 into a woman in the press. We understand as noted earlier in this thread the media is part of the propaganda machine. Crimes against children are seen as far more agregious than crimes against adults because of the innocence factor. If I said four men were killed last night and later on you found out...
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Re: Always blame Israel

Kweli4Real ·
Understand ... There is a vast difference between the Jewish/Hebrew peoples in the region and the Zionist that dominate the isreali state. The Jewish/Hebrew peoples and the Arab/Moslem/Islamic peoples in the region have lived side by side, and largely in relative peace, for centuries ... until the UN created state of israel became populated with european jews (i.e., zionist). Ever hear of the South Poverty Law Center [http://www.splcenter.org/]?
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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

nayo ·
..."I'm reading a lot of complaining about who does the serving at dinner time. But, is that all there is to do in life? Is there no purpose that men serve in your lives? I get the impression that the perception here is that men do nothing except sit around, grow fat, and demand to be waited on hand and foot. If that's the case, why have them around at all? Is there no privilege women have that men do not? Truthfully, are there no advantages or privileges you see in being a woman?...."...
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Re: THE CONCEPT OF MALE PRIVILEGE

Khalliqa ·
hmmm... if this is an issue of institutional structure.. then I would have to say I disagree that there is any one way that women are expected to act... there are trail ends of a cohesive mainly homogenous culture that those of our generation were bequeathed to experience.... it was in THIS culture that female roles were assigned however, as I watch younger girls, today's society is very much individualistic... especially with the women's movement a few decades ago and its lingering effects...
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Re: Obsession

umbrarchist ·
It just occured to me that it is very interesting how this propaganda is claimed to have an effect on Arab children as they grow up and yet people claim that violent video games like Grand Theft Auto have no effect on kids in the US. Another amusing point was the business about Jihad meaning internal struggle and I immediately thought of Mein Kamph then someone brought that up in the video. Like the German lebensraum and American Manifest Destinies weren't forms of Jihad. umbrarchist
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Re: Larry Elder: Black anti-semitism

Oshun Auset ·
Larry Elder is a patsy for international finance capital and imperialism. Anywhere else in the world condemnation for the imperialist occupation of Palestine is not considered an 'anti-Jewish' sentiment. Israel recieves 1/3 of U.S. foreign aid because it is the American imperialist outpost in the Middle East, ready to do it's dirty work(fighting Syrian funded Hezbollah in Lebenon, which will be the excuse the U.S. needed to invade Syria, if Israel doesn't do it for them). Hence anything said...
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Re: Larry Elder: Black anti-semitism

Oshun Auset ·
Currently, under European based global capitalism(which the Zionists are a tool of), our enemy's enemy is our man. Fighting on two fronts always screws things up. Plus, few of us are speaking Arabic(who don't also speak English) so it is clear where the primary contradiction in our lives originates, after we resolve that issue, then we can 'take care of' the secondary issues. We don't want to repeat Idi Amin's mistake. I'm speaking on a global level of course. As far as the animosity towards...
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Re: Larry Elder: Black anti-semitism

Sweetwuzzy ·
What about Arabs and Islam in Africa?? Slavery in the past and present?? Genocide???
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Re: African History...Is it ours or theirs?

Khalliqa ·
I read this book my freshman year of college... still have it.... loving you right about now.. Peace, Khalliqa
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Re: African History...Is it ours or theirs?

Kocolicious ·
Re: African History...Is it ours or theirs?
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Re: So why Vin Diesel and not Wesley or Denzel?

Huey ·
^The animators could draw Hannibal to look like some blond Tarzan, instead of a Carthiginian from northern Africa. And no, he wasn't a light Arab. Arabs were nomads and didn't permanently settled in parts of northern Africa until they were unified by Islam in the 7th century AD.
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Re: Where's the movie about. . .?

Oshun Auset ·
The formation of the UNIA-ACL/Marcus Garvey movement. The Aryan invasion of the Indus Valley. The Congo under Leopold II. The (Arab/Persian/Indian) invasion of Norht and East Africa, slave trade, and formation of the Swahili Coast.(A trilogy) The Trail of Tears. The Cuban revolution.(from the revolutionary perspective.)..
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Saracen ·
Peace.... Oshun, I think this statement is kinda harsh. The Nation Of Islam does not credit Arabs for the creation of Islam. We agree with the Arab world that the Arabs were the last to receive a message which our people already had for a very, very, long time. "Islam" is an Arabic term, however the meaning of "Islam" which is peace, or Universal equilibrium is a very well known and accepted concept among our people going back into the far reaches of antiquity. In ancient KMT we called this...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Oshun Auset ·
Yah, the truth often is. The Nation of Islam can refuse to credit whomever and whatever they do and don't want to. That doesn't make it historical fact, or even a logical deduction for that matter. Just like Judaism and X-tianity, Islam is based on the branch of the Kemetic teachigs that was adopted/stolen/plagerized/borrowed and DEVELOPED into a seperate religion under the patriarchial foreign invaders known as Arabs. Just like the other Abrahamic religions, these folk use the deification...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Oshun Auset ·
(More laughter from me) NOI logic for being Muslim sounds the same as the logic of African folks who refuse to deal with the historical realisites of X-tianity. Why aren't the Europeans 'custodians' in the same manner for the Ausarian principles that are clearly visibly retained in that religion? Are you next going to tell me that Judaism and X-tianity have not been transformed all the years they have been influenced and warped under European patriarchy? Your post was very flowery but it is...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Saracen ·
Peace..... Okay... Christianity was not delivered to the European via Jehoshua the Karast (Ausar), the one the world knows as Jesus. Jesus was an iEssene High Priest and initiate into the Kemetic mysteries. The true teachings of Jesus is the teaching of the Kemetic mystery schools. The message was warped, however, enough of the pure message was preserved to clearly demonstrate a Kemetic origin. You cannot accuse the message of Jesus for the failure and transgressions of those who uphold his...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Oshun Auset ·
Are you HONESTLY trying to tell me and yourself that the Ausarian principles of KMT have not been effected by Arabic culture? The patriarchy in the NOI's teachings speaks for this alone! Dr. Ben John Henrick Clark and countless other African historians disagree with you and your NOI version of Islamic history. Religion is the deification of culture -Dr. Ben You can pretend that outsiders are the proper 'custodians' of African spirituality and culture if you wish... BTW I do not take the...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Saracen ·
Peace.... The arabs were never given enough understanding to corrupt what was left in their care. The Holy Qur'an Sharrief is a revelation which was never fully unraveled by the arab world of muslims. The Book is what I am speaking of. Islam not only travelled through the arab world, it was also emanated through the vessel of the African Moor. The Moors were able to maintain their own indigenous culture and demonstrate the beauty which results from the application of the principles within...
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Oshun Auset ·
It is evem easier to corrupt things when you don't understand them, just as the Europeans did with X-tianity. So the indigenous culture of Africans is different from that taught in the Qur'an? That is somewhat of a contradiction(considering your premise). The Moors were Arabized Africans. In Senegal it is similar. The Islam that is practiced their is very Africanized(or from your point of view, re-Africanized), but it still has the underlying deification of Arab culture that is expected. I...
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Re: 9/11 in the Quran !!

Saracen ·
Peace.... Naf, you make me laugh.... Muslims are far less responsible for murder and atrocities than so called Christians, Jews, and the godless. We live in a time of terribly social unrest..War results... Islam as revealed to the arab is only 1400 years old...People were murdering way before that... Your thread could just as well be against Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, or even atheists... They are responsible for alot of killing. Kai
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

alonzo ·
Empty, I know it's sometimes difficult to hear but these are "jokes" and shouldn't been seen as anything more. I've yet to hear any "serious" person say this.
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

Empty Purnata ·
Huh? First of all, how do you figure most White Liberal Democrats are of Ashkenazim descent? Second, Black Americans have united with Whites before, during the Civil Rights Movement. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to uniting with White Americans who support the Black Liberation and anti-racist cause. I'm opposed to uniting with White Americans to discriminate against other people. Yes, the Ottoman Empire (not Arabs necessarily) did have a state of imperialism in Africa (mostly North...
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

umbrarchist ·
Yeah, sic the honkies on those Arab niggas. I was thinking about strangling some Arab kid a few year ago. umbra
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

Oshun Auset ·
I'm with you EP, that logic, or rather illogic bothers me too, and I hear it too often from our people who are not comedians. Only one thing I disagree with, it wasn't just the Ottoman Empire. The Swahili Coast was the main export area for the slave trade and it is argued that even though it was a much slower bleed than the European enslavement process, that there was more blood lost. The Arab/Persian/Indian(Islamic/Muslim) invasion of Africa, and the East African slave trade in particular...
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

Huey ·
Not to be devil's advocate, but many of those Sudanese identify with being Arab than black, b/c of being raised in the Islamic culture. Therefore, they don't see mistreating non-Muslim black Sudanese as wrong.
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

Oshun Auset ·
Well, actually it is the Arabized Sudanize(sudanese mixed with Arabs in some remote way,like a gradnfather even if from rape...go figure) who are killing other Sudanese who are also Muslim because they are not mixed with Arab/Arabized as much as they are, even though they practice the same religion. The other religion(X-tian and indigenous religious oppression) has little to do with the current situation going on in Darfur...although it was a factor in the Southern Sudanese massacres of the...
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Re: Uniting With White People......To Discriminate Against Someone Else

Nmaginate ·
Seems like a lot of people get tripped up (i.e. confused) over those important details/differences.
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

urbansun ·
Sigh... First of all you have not disputed my premise. Please do so if you want to engage in intelligent debate. If you just want to talk shit I can do that too, but I think this board is of a higher order than that don't you brotha? I would argue that violence done under the name of communism has out done both Islam and Christianity but that also is a different topic. Back to the original point, you are arguing two different philosophies, 'Christianity' and 'White Supremecy'. Christianity...
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

Faheem ·
This is the crux of all negative things spoken about Islam. This is why as a Muslim I don't bother trying to defend Islam when Arabs and Arab culture is really the problem. Those who continue to equate Arab Culture and behavior with Islam are not deserving of a debate with me on matters of the Islamic Faith. BTW, Dell, there are Five Pillars in Islam and none of them speak about going to war. If you need to know what they are, I would be more than happy to inform you as to what they are. Oh,...
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

Faheem ·
Not sure if you were being flippant or genuine when you spoke about having a brain freeze, either way as I said There are five pillars of Islam and Jihad, waging war or being involved in any form of aggression is not one of them. Now as far as Arab Culture versus Islam is concerned, we can start with the hatred of women that is rampant in Arab culture, but was not the case during the time of the Prophet, We can look the backwardness of the Arab world that does not reflect Islam but reflect...
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

Oshun Auset ·
First, I'm a sister. And I can have intelligent discussion and talk ish at the same time when I can tell someone is coming from a right wing capitalist imperialist X-tian apologist standpoint. Usually such folk are trolls of some sort. I would argue that the violence perpetrated under Christian backed capitalist imperialist expansion has fucked over the entire globe a few times over and dwarfs everything else in comparison. Remember slavery? Hao about the indigenous Amerikkkan genocide? You...
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

Oshun Auset ·
Although I understand and agree with most of what you said, How dose one seperate a religion from the culture and people that birthed it(or have had millenia long influence over it)?
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Re: Pope's Comment and Islam

Faheem ·
This is easily done by being able to distinguish what is Arab culture and what is Islam. I have no problem distinguishing the two, unfortunately many Africans can not. An even easier way to distinguish the two is to be mindful of the purpose of religion. Once you get down to what the purpose of religion is, there is no mistaken the ideologies of Arabs and the Religion of Islam. Secondly, far too many African Muslims apologize for Arab aggression against the African in the past and...
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Re: Hillary Supports Allowing Torture

Empty Purnata ·
Terrorism in the Middle East is a direct result of the decline of Pan-Arabism in the 60's. The predominant ideologies in the Middle East today seem to be Neoliberal reformism, Islamic Brotherhood (which has no links to Nazism) and Pan-Arabism which has greatly declined. In fact, the Islamic Brotherhood ideology is a direct result of the collapse of Pan-Arabism due to the imperialistic actions of Israel. Israel has been the agressor more than it has been a victim. If it is at war with the...
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Re: What do you think will happen after you die?

Oshun Auset ·
We (Africans born in Amerikkka are of West Afrikkkan stock. I'm worried about the traditions and teachings out of that region. Not the stolen and perverted Hyksos plagerization of the much more ancient African Nile Vallley spiritual traditions. I have read the entire Helio Biblio (twice actually), and the Qur'an during Ramadan twice... although admittedly I don't have them completely memorized (not an interest of mine...I've moved on from studying the religions introduced to our direct...
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Re: Iran's Nuclear Aspirations

MBM ·
Well, as you see, I said "I bet". That implies conjecture on my part. Documentation is typically not required for one to present their opinions about something. You refute the conjecture however. Please elaborate. BTW - just ask yourself who benefits most by a certain action. It seems rather clear that Israel has the most to fear from a fundamentalist Muslim Arab country with nuclear weapons. No?
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Re: Israel = Jewish Reparations?

Popcorn ·
I don't believe that it was intended as reparations for the Jews. When the UN General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into two states in 1947, ostensibly the partition was intended to end the fighting between the Zionist Militia and the British army, and between the Arabs and Jews. But I think there was a lot more going on then just this. The General Assembly members all had their own agenda and none of it was altruistic. The British government's hope was that the UN would be unable to...
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Re: Israel = Jewish Reparations?

Popcorn ·
JWC, Yes, there always is. Who really knows what went on in all those small, windowless offices between those Imperialist European diplomats. Politics is such a dirty game that good folks, the ones who really can imagine a better world, don't want to get involved. They don't want to get all covered with filth. But they're going to have to, or this may well be the "terminal phase of human existence" as Noam Chomsky says it is. This is a little off-topic, but here is yet another agreement the...
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