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Re: Conservative Idiots

Isome ·
courtesy of democratic underground Condoleezza Rice George W. Bush gave Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a very important job last week. According to the Financial Times: President George W. Bush on Wednesday announced that the State Department would lead all US post-conflict reconstruction, a move that supersedes the controversial decision to give that task to the Pentagon in Iraq following the 2003 invasion. ... A former senior official involved in what he called the "chaos" of post-war...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Michael ·
.....be it Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green Party, or otherwise..... .....the Black community is being looked upon as being insignificant, perverted, criminal, sleazy, wreckless, backwards, un-American, treasonous, self destructive, poverty stricken, social welfare dependent, bigotted, lazy, hateful, uncaring, selfish, useless, begging, continuously playing the race card, etc., ...... ......an outlook that has more to do with a ethnic group's financial status, holdings, consumer...
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Re: Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Blacksanction ·
It is can be either- whatever direction they are given re strategic policy of the government of the day. The part that everyone likes to miss is that the interception of telcom in and out of the US has been going on for decades. Think about it... the US does this with its allies so I listen to your people and I listen to yours and then we trade the information. Agents of the state (whether Fed, State or local police) depending on the circumstances do engage from time to time in unlawful acts...
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Noah The African ·
So...will things change as a result of your strategy....which is: 1) Blame everything on black liberals 2) Ignore incidents of police brutality and racism against blacks 3) Lobbying to increase the number of blacks who don't vote democratic. 4) Ignoring that the present is the summation and creation of the past. 5) being an UNCLE TOM or a white man pretending to be black how does that strategy HELP?
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

MBM ·
CF - I'm being real patient and kind here. Now listen (read) carefully. There is a big difference between the state killing black children and women exercising their Constitutionally protected right to choice. I hope that even you can understand that.
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Re: Constructive Feedback Is Right!!

Empty Purnata ·
[Sarcasm] Don't you know, MBM? Pregnancy is God's punishment against women for being whores and sluts! We shouldn't allow for women to have choices over their bodies, God wants men to use the righteous arm of law to decide things for wimmin. They don't need no help once the babies are born. Being single mothers in poverty is God's punishment on them for being loose. [/End Sarcasm]
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Frenchy ·
Larry Elder was clearly kidnapped by the Secret Service and had a chip planted in his ass. Never have I seen a Black man tap dance so fast and furious for white folks. It's like he is reading directly from "The White Man's Guide to Talking Your Slave Out of Rising Up Against You." Nmaginate, Elder is no way speaking to any of us darkies. In truth, whether or not we accept him is of no consequence to him. He wants his white buddies to see this article, pat him on his monkey head, and toss him...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

nayo ·
ROTFLMAO!!!! p.s. I almost, fell for the Elder 'okidoke', until I heard his response to an African American woman (on his recently cancelled television show), who was opining about racism in the U.S. He asked her, why did'nt she just go 'back' to Africa if the racism was so bad here!! I could'nt believe it.
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

sunnubian ·
I get so sick and tired of hearing this bs from this republican lawn jockey. He acts as if HIS father is the only Black person or Black man who did ALL these things in a racist society. Millions of Black people in America did the same things he says his father did, accomplished the same things, his father did, served in WWI/WWII/Vietnam/Etc., and did so in the mist of a racist nation with the only difference being other Black people go to work every day, graduate from school (or get a...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: Are You Afraid To Die?

Empty Purnata ·
Very reasonable expression! Actually about the "saftey net" thing, one of my cousins is also an atheist, but he believes in reincarnation or subconsciousness (he believes that people either either reincarnate or that after death, people remain in a dream-like subconscious state). It's kind of unusual for an atheist to believe in afterlife, but oh well. *shrugs*
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CON-Feed: "Yes'suh boss! You'se can trust me! I'se do right and I'se won't cheat ya or nuttin'!" Question: Why should I invest in White commerce? They should be just as obligated to show ME that MY money is safe in their hands. 1) You assume that White racial discrimination against Minorities in business is well-founded. 2) You are implying that White business is self-evidently trustworthy. And they should do the same with us. But, no, you don't believe in that. The White man can always be...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
Good advice...I agree people need to break the 'creature of habit'. So many folks go to the exact same nightclubs, eatries, bars, etc. Break the cycle, try other places
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
I agree. So why can't we "be real" about Black men's situation in this country? When African-American women talk about how this state of affairs is impacting their lives, why can't you all respectfully acknowledge what you are hearing and reading? Whenever an African-American woman tells people about how the deterioration of her community is impacting her future, all she gets are expressions of disbelief and denial, followed by a list of general dating tips. Well Black women are not apart of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

Rowe ·
So if a lot Black women are having similiar dating experiences, what are we to conclude? Is poor dating experiences something that is unique to Black women? Are Black women just "bad daters?"
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
* I have no problems with reality {I actually prefer it to the self-boosting misinformation often floating about the Black community}, so long as those women acknowledge that they chose to date those guys all by themselves [cherry picked]. It was her choice to date/pursue Joe Thug and Ray-ray and thus it was her 'fault' when they let her down. If you sleep with dogs, you just might wake up with fleas and puppies!!! She also can't blame 'sane' black men that didn't appeal to her 'Ray-Ray'...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I would conclude that many young black women make very poor dating choices early in their dating lives. It seems, like Dr Audrey Chapman*******[link below with highlighted quote] has concluded, that many black women are looking to be a savior in their quest to attempt to try to change a bad boy into a good man..as oppose to starting out with a good man and building from there. She [Dr. Chapman]feels that black women would like to feel that their love can change people...only later to...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

powerflower ·
Hating Black men and holding past relationships against the new relationship prospect are two quite different things. I said what I had to say about baggage in a previous post on this thread; suffice it to say that both men and women have baggage from past relationships and if we're honest, at one time or another, we have all probably given another person some undue grief because we were still reeling from the hurt we experienced in the past. However, most Black women LOVE Black men Maybe we...
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Re: Why do souls come to Earth?

Empty Purnata ·
I don't believe in eternal souls, I believe that souls are impermanent essences. My view of the soul is similar to that of a Buddhist, or Aristotle's view on the soul: http://www.answers.com/topic/soul Jesus did not teach that souls are immortal, seperate, wraithly persons either: Jesus taught that the Kingdom of Heaven is not "here or there", but that is "within you". I believe that Jesus' "Kingdome of Heaven" may have been a metaphor stressing something along the lines of...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

powerflower ·
I had read the thread, and posted before. I will tell you what I think about the question you posed, but I don't think all the men are saying that all Black women are naturally bad daters/decision makers. I think that people are getting all riled up when they disagree with what someone posts and then they respond emotionally. Hey, I do it too I don't think the original post was meant to be offensive. I think it was directed at women because it came from a magazine directed at women. I wasn't...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

RadioRaheem ·
I agree with you, but in a convo like this, it's a battle and both sides need to defend their side
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God

Melesi ·
Sometimes the two concepts confused in this discussion (not this one specifically but this issue) is linguistic gender and biological sex. One cannot argue from the first to the second. A very funny treatment of this and several other like issues in language can be found in Mark Twain's essay "The Awful German Language." Seriously, however, in languages where every noun is assigned a gender (which is most of them. Interestingly, English has rid itself of almost all gender-references, and yet...
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Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God

HonestBrother ·
Re: The Holy Spirit Was Originally The Feminine Side Of God
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Re: BLACK PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH ISLES

FireFly ·
To anyone interested... Rough Crossings : Britain, the Slaves and the American Revolution - $49.95 Simon Schama "Set against the backdrop of the American Revolution and its aftermath, Rough Crossings is the gripping, astonishing epic of the struggle for freedom by tens of thousands of slaves who believed that their future as free men and women was bound up with staying British, not becoming American. The decision to offer slaves who defected to the British their liberty began in military...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

FireFly ·
I agree.... this is a really important point and I wondered - from the teachers among you (?) - if this aspect of teaching is ever touched on in training, or discussed between teachers. My other question is, after initial 'teacher training' and beyond day-to-day teaching experience where/how do teachers expand their knowledge? I'm curious... teaching is a mix of psychology, curriculum, staying technology-literate, ideas, and being socially-aware. Corporations have seminars and training...
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Re: My dad's barbershop -- and personal responsibility

Black Viking ·
This is really where the rubber meets the road. Not to disrupt the Larry Elder feeding-fest, but I thought he was making some good points right up until he gives the "suggestion" to invest in yourself. Obviously, if your not trying to better yourself than none of this matters. It never hits home. How can you be held down by racism if your not trying to go anywhere? I think the reason that this idiot is a conservative is because he has bought the party line of the...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....now speaking of defending the status quo, more likely this fits our disgraceful elected representatives and/or an inept Black middleclass more so than any Black conservative.... " House Negroes can't back-up a prayer of a chance in any benefit as to AA benefitting a Michael Lofton because I only give credit where it is due ....." ....now AA has done about as much or less for me..... ...as a no good Reverend Henry Lyons , and snake oil saleman Reverend Jesse Jackson , Brentwood Burke,...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
LOL! Apparently for Condoleeza Rice, J.C. Watts, Armstrong Williams, Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, "Rev." Jesse Lee Peterson, Juan Williams and Clarence Thomas; Affirmative Action was just fine WHEN THEY BENEFITTED FROM IT. Now that they have "made it" up the ladder, they want to kick it down so other Blacks can't use it. They want to be the only House Negroids in Massa's house. They can't have other Negroids stealing their spotlight! Got-damn Kneegrows. They can't stand Affirmative Action...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
Uppity Negress, Blacks maintained SOCIALLY conservative views during our advancement, not POLITICALLY conservative views. One has to do with family marriage, religion and morality which we are all for. The other relates to politics and policies such as repeals on AA that has always worked adversely against blacks...and if you ever look at what the black majority believes in, the political conservatives are diametrically opposed to it 100% of the time. That tells me that one of two things are...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

UppityNegress ·
OK, I see the how you distinguish the two, although there does seem to be a bit of gray area. For example, is being anti-homosexual a social or poltical issues? It seems social, IMO, but if the last wave of election count for anything, the right sure played it like a political issue. You say that political conservatives are diametrically opossed to the Black majority. The only issues I can think of now are AA and death penalty reform. What are the others?
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
What are the great acheivements that Asian Americans make in this country? Where is the strong bloc of Asian Americans in Congress and American politics? Where are the Asian CEO's of Fortune 500 companies? Who are the great Asian American artists, entertainers, writers, musicians? How is the Asian American community supporting their native Asian countries, communities, people? I guess you speak admiringly of this community because in large part they are segregated from the mainstream of...
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Re: 'No Child Left Behind' - A Thought

MBM ·
First who is Kendred Meeks. Funny that there are NO citations for that person in all of Google. Second, most schools are built with a combination of local, state, and federal funding hence your assumption that building schools somehow reduces per student funding does not necessarily apply. Third, even if per student funding decreased, lowering the teacher/student ratio in some instances might overcome the reduced funding. This is particularly the case when it is part of a planned, strategic...
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Re: Playing with Americans left and right hands on reparation.

MBM ·
Quoted from the article, these are things that Republicans are suing Democrats for: It's pretty pathetic that this is the best that black conservatives can do. The fact is that above and beyond any party affiliations, it is conservative ideology that was behind everything listed above. What does that say about conservatives that they are attacking Democrats because of their previous conservative positions?
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Empty Purnata ·
True, these are sadly too absent from the Asian-American Community. There are good Asian-American musicians, artists and entertainers, I'm not sure I would say the entertainers are "great" (as in universally notoriable). Just like Afrian-Americans, Asian-Americans also face a glass ceiling in this country as well. They are expected by White Americans to be nothing more than businessmen and scientists. Just keep serving YT and keep their noses to the grind. I think some Asian-American...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
....more likely Empty Purnata, ricardomath, and Kevin41 are full of it..... ..now this is punishment... punishment for wrong and foolish actions truly deserved. ..now, I choose not to go this direction, and slim chance exists, where I will be punished for anything that I truly did....... .....There is nothing that a Kevin41 can do that will ruin me, punish me, ruin my good reputation, etc., etc. ..haven't sustained any losses, be it financial, or otherwise, thus what you have classed as...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
........more likely, it is our own Black community that is disgraceful..... LA's Failing Black Hospital Shunned As "Killer King" Posted on: 2004-12-07 16:57:42 Once a focus of black pride in South Central Los Angeles, the Martin Luther King, Jr./Drew Medical Center has, according to a devastating five-part expose in the Los Angeles Times, "a long history of harming, or even killing, those it was meant to serve." The Times series details one fatality after another due to misdiagnosis or other...
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Re: Afrocentric versus Eurocentric

Fine ·
Yes. ------------------- Dusty Elbow: We "can" very well talk about Americas slavery and there is alot to talk about: Connecticut Military Law, 1784--forbade blacks from serving in military First Naturalization Law, 1790--congress declared US a white nation Federal Militia Law, 1792--only whites could enlists in peacetime militia Fugitive Slave Law, 1793--protected slaveholders rights, discouraged blacks from running away Virginia Migration Law, 1793--forbade free blacks from entering that...
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Kevin41 ·
You hit it on the head....but the flip side of that is that the pro-marriage types will try to call you out and make you take a position...or interpret your no stance take on the issue as being against....my views are like yours precisely...on all social issues that do not directly affect me....i'm not going to support or stand in the way of it....who am I to determine what the fuck someone else's value system is? I think that reeks of white supremacy.....I really do.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Michael ·
"Nah Isome...those days of giving little mikey attention have fizzled down to nothing......what the hell...i made a decent effort up front to communicate so to hell with it......i read some of the old posts Ricardo chronicled and I was really too damn diplomatic in the first place...just takes a minute to figure it out when you trying to give a fool the benefit of the doubt. Remember when I said so in the thread about New Years resolutions? Well as you can see today is the 7th.....once I get...
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Re: The Effect of Public Schools on Our Kids

Rowe ·
Good points.
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Re: "If the KKK opposes gay marriage, I would ride with them."

Kevin41 ·
Shut the hell up Frenchy...if I didn't like gays or was against their agenda i'd be proud to tell your azz just that. If you understand the context of my post, you would see that I said that gays tend to take their agenda and confound the issues that are related to people disconnected from them and their issue(s). You are the example of the kind of person i mentioned that when you say you are not against gays, they make you be someone against them anyway. If I say my stance on an issue is a...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

kresge ·
I am grieved to hear about your experience. I spent 12 years in academia as a college/university chaplain. Before my theological training, however, I obtained a B.S. in physics and mathematics, and an M.A. in physics. So I think that I might be able to relate to your situation from several positions. With respect to the AA community, I think that science and mathematics, little priority seems to be given to these disciplines. There seems to be much more of a connection with arts associated...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Empty Purnata ·
Alright, here's the reality of the land: America was founded on Englightenment Principles (the ideas in our Constitution are borrowed from the French Constitution and inspired by Englightenment Age philosophy on liberty, freedom and justice). There is a radical Seperation of Church and State. Church cannot regulate religious beliefs as laws, and the State cannot regulate religious beliefs. This is mutally beneficial, it provides a safe, bias-free (in theory) system that does not make...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM - I am not sure who is worse between you or Empty in your theory that you can have man transform into behaving like ANTS, practicing 100% socialism above their own concerns. You and many other libs act like ultra-conservatives when it comes to the consideration of sending funds outside of America rather than spending it on your fellow Americans. There are many rich people who seek to keep their money for spending on their own families while people in New Orleans live in RELATIVE poverty.
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Nmaginate ·
What's so hard about you keeping your comments within THE CONTEXT? Why are you running across the globe looking, praying for something, someone to save your SORRY ASS?
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Empty Purnata ·
CF, stop pretending that you "care". You aren't concerned that we are "placing an ideology above our own concerns", you are upset that that ideology is not Capitalism. If we were 100% Capitalists, you would have no problem. If we placed Capitalism above our own concerns, you wouldn't care. You are just upset that we are not Capitalists (well, at least I'm not, I'm not sure if MBM is a Capitalist or a Socialist he comes off as a Socialized Capitalist to me). I can get along just fine with...
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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Kevin: Let me give you some CONTEXT to your statements above. Inevitably there will be some over the top incident that a Black person or group of Blacks commit. Rather than condemn THIS PARTICULAR EVENT and clearly articulate how THIS EVENT HAS VIOLATED EVERYTHING THAT YOU BELIEVE....... You (and my enemy Isome) will IMMEDIATELY do a web search and find and occassion in which WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT THE OUTRAGE HAS NOT FOLLOWED. So Kevin - does this benefit the Black victim...
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Re: Tolerance of Intolerance?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks, Kresge for your understanding and kind words. It was much appreciated. Fine, I see your point. But I think I'll stay with the original wording. Because, as I see it, my beliefs are an integral part of me. They reflect my life history, the lessons I've learned, and my growth process. They are the intellectual/spiritual expression of my life's journey and personal integrity. * So someone who thinks it their duty to condemn my beliefs (for no other reason than that they're different)...
 
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