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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

MBM ·
To be clear - the point that I am trying to illustrate is that Con Feed's rants about the problems of black culture are really a result of classism and poverty in America that transcend race. Since we know that the white middle class has declined over recent years, if the black middle class has increased or decreased at a smaller rate than the white middle class - then whatever issues CF has with black people can be attributed to the effects that ALL middle/working/poor Americans suffer from...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

kresge ·
The Super Negro thing is a form of exceptionalism, that goes back centuries. It is similar to the exceptionalism often found among cultural or political black nationalist. While the later group often asserts that black folk are different, unique, or distinct culturally, socially, historically, or even biologically and thus need a "nation" of our own, the former understands black uniqueness as as somehow salvific for the world. Even before it appears in King, it is present in black culture...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

Diamond ·
Virtue, You are so right, we don't discuss the hurtful things we have done to ourselves. We are quick to point out what the white man has done to us but we very seldom discuss what we do to ourselves. I am ashamed to say that I have heard of the paper bag test. Not only with the J&J but with other black organizations. For example my church, I heard it said by someone I respect that a presbyterian is a baptist that has made it. In addition, my presbyterian church has a history of only...
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

ZAKAR ·
My problem with elitest organizations is these organizations often produce the negroes that represent us in mainstream america. These are the same negroes you see all over the tv carrying the water for the white man and telling everyone how bad blacks are , their situation is their fault and if they just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps they will be ok. But these people often dont live in the communities with the majority of black people and often times never associate with the...
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Re: How Do You Know.... If A Person is RACIST?

Yssys (Guest) ·
Back to the question at hand, "How do you know If a person is RACIST?" By their actions. And Yssys must admit, she is a proud black woman and loves her black people. I prefer to look at the lovely faces of my other black brothers and sisters. I only buy black themed and owned magazines when I can. I try to attend every black concert, ballet, art show that I can. Even though it's hard sometimes, I try to support efforts in my community by black people. I prefer to make friends with other...
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Re: Who knows the real story behind 3/5 man legistlation?

sergeant ·
Well, you just did it back to me, now didn't you Jim. While most politics is about 'power', thats nowhere near an answer. Little bit surprised at you Jim. Of course, I'm a little surprised at everyone right now. I'll offer my answer in time, but there are so many self-proclaimed 'experts' on black culture, issues, and history around here, I think we should allow a little more time for more to weigh in.
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Re: Who knows the real story behind 3/5 man legistlation?

Nmaginate ·
PROOF!! Who made any such claims? Who is known for saying, "LoRdY! You need to read!" and "Poster X, most likely NEVER picks up a book!" (PSYCHOalphaDiscoBETAbioAQUAdoLooP!!!)
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Re: Introduction to Voodoo in Haiti

Afroman ·
Sure Yssys no problem! I'm glad to give you all more info about Vodou, Yoruba, Santeria, Lucumi, Macumba etc...these are the same religions with different branches. We Blacks have to embrace traditional African Religion. By doing so, we are reviving black culture in America!! AfroMan.
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Re: 8 Mile

Destined ·
ArabianQueen, you are absolutely right about Eminem and the movie. I am an avid hip hop fan, a black woman at an elite white university and a child of the ghetto. One of my best friends is a white boy who freestyles. Do you know why Eminem is so popular? No doubt the man has talent, born and breed. But in my opinion Eminem is popular for the same reason black face was such a hoot: a white man doing a black thing. Eminem takes that exotified and commodified otherness and makes it even more...
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

EgbertSouse ·
MBM, What a shame. I thought you had some brains; instead, when the going gets tough, all you can do is fall back on the same old tired cliches of the monochromatic race issue in America. Like a broken record. 1. Hmmm... I've never had skin cancer. And I don't recall ever undergoing surgery to fatten my lips or ass. In fact, I've never known a fellow white person who has. Must be the sheltered life I've been living. 2. Hmmm... I have NEVER tried to imitate your language, music, food,...
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

MBM ·
If it's so tired then, please logically articulate why it is wrong for the families that involuntarily invested of their labor in the economy to get a return on it after America has benefited for hundreds of years? You're OK with the fact that America profited off the blood, sweat, and tears of slaves - with no benefit to them? That sits just fine with you, huh? Do you disagree that slavery subsidized America? Do you disagree that in enriched people, that it enhanced profits? If you do, then...
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

EgbertSouse ·
Forget it... You're just another black sophist who gets his rocks off insulting whitey. Your type is a dime a dozen. NOT ONE DAMN DIME FOR SLAVERY REPARATIONS!
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Re: Russell Simmons Eyed As New NAACP Prez

Sweetwuzzy ·
Russell Simmons and Hip Hop Readers Margaret Kimberley The hottest rumor making the rounds is that entertainment and fashion impresario Russell Simmons wants to be the new president of the NAACP. As the story goes, Simmons is under consideration because he will know how to engage young people in political activity. If there is any credence to the rumor, his wealth is surely part of the consideration as well. We are told that any effort to appeal to young black people today isn't possible...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

EbonyRose ·
I would answer yes to all of your questions and perceptions. And I would agree that hip-hop is slowly banging nails into our coffins as far as us as a community goes. The media is a viper and a leech. But, it is run by people who have the (more or less absolute) power, who don't really like, let alone care about us, and who's bottom line is greed ... so in essence, they don't really care about anybody but themselves and their bank balances. However, you have those hip-hop entertainers who...
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Re: Of course all white people are racist (Article by Joseph Harker)

Oshun Auset ·
This is something that has been on my mind for a while. I grew up on Hip-Hop. I am a product of the old school and Afro-centric 'happy to be nappy' erra(which I will forever miss). When I hear people saying gold chains and baggy pants, thugging and pimping are "our" culture it disturbs me. I consider African culture and all of it's diasporic expressions "our" culture. Now some of that is represented in Hip-Hop...but are we sure we aren't confusing a culture of poverty or vestigaes of the...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

ulimo ·
"Perverted Trends of Gangster/Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging are Ravaging Black Culture..." - are ravaging BLACK CHRISTIAN CULTURE! You don't see any Blacks, Native Americans, or Latinos who practice Judaism,Yoga, Budhaism, Sufism, etc., in these jails and prisons. What some of the Blacks will do(for protection and rap-buddies) when they get arrested, is to claim to be "Muslims". But if you ask these Blacks, Native Americans, and Latinos, what their religion is? -before they get arrested -...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

Oshun Auset ·
Funny, I haven't seen many Ethiopian Orthodox Christians in the Prison system....hhhmmmm Maybe it is because their culture doesn't produce a large amount of criminals... And why aren't X-tians of other nationalities/races in prison as much as the African/Blacks in Amerikkka? ... If this had anything to do with religion all the X-tian white folks would be in jail. We are targetted because we are African/Balck. And the Amerikkkan society produces criminals...that's what this nation was founded...
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Re: Perverted Trends of Gangster / Criminal Lifestyles are Ravaging Black Culture...

AudioGuy ·
It is difficult to decipher were you stand, but I will offer this: Q: Malcolm X was exposed to the Muslim faith where?? A: Prison. I guess that the point is that there a representatives of all faiths in the prison system - not just christians. For you to assert that christianity somehow makes a person more criminal than any other faith, is absurd.
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Re: Currently: BookTV

IRONHORSE ·
Nayo, I, too was quite disappointed in Debra's performance--you have to remember two things, though, Dr. Dyson's only equal, in the intellectual world, is Dr. Cornell West. I've seen these two men (West and Dyson) with a who's who amongst black leaders of America, on various think tanks with Tavis Smiley--both men were unmatched. Secondly, Debra is not a good speaker--she's very bright and well accomplished but she doesn't speak well under pressure, and, most certainly would not make a good...
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Re: Mandatory African History Course

EbonyRose ·
Commentary: Philly Schools' Requiring Black History a Boon to Students of Every Race Date: Sunday, June 12, 2005 By: Deborah Mathis, BlackAmericaWeb.com Come with me, back to the juncture of the 1960s and 1970s. A time of Afros, daishikis and platform shoes. A time of Gil Scott-Heron, Sly and the Family Stone, and a young sensation named Michael Jackson. A time before black neighborhoods were plagued by drive-by shootings and crack dealers. A time when you hardly ever heard of a young person...
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Re: THEY HAVE A VERDICT!!!

Michael ·
"I was right...you decided to return and showcase your stupidity once again. Kevin is right, Lofton. Give it up man, it only gets worse and you only get more ignorant from here." ....unlikely, more likely though these individuals days are numbered, numbered because they are truly incompetent, treasonous, deceitful beyond belief, and/or un-American. Either way demographic changes, and redistricting will remove this trash from elected office! ************************ Searching for Lessons in...
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Re: For first time since slavery, black lives not improving

Noah The African ·
I think what should happen is that we should recognize that this phenomenon is the product of cultural engineering of human behavior. Next, we need to understand exactly what the primary forces are that are creating this culture and what are our abilities, as a people, to reengineer this culture to the benefit of our families and community. Can we reengineer a culture that we do not have complete ownership and control over? I don't think that it is feasible to socially engineer "black...
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Re: For first time since slavery, black lives not improving

Noah The African ·
I don't think that can reengineer black culture. What needs to happen is that "other influences" need to be truncated from being an option. The reason being is that sin is often more pleasurable than righteousness, which is why we pray to be led not into its temptations. Pleasure translate into profit in capitalism and the current media caters to pleasures which attract viewers and hence advertisement and hence profits. Hence, if one offers righteousness media in America, juxtaposed with...
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Re: For first time since slavery, black lives not improving

Popcorn ·
Again, exactly! You cannot seperate Black culture from the context and background of American Culture. In all of America, families are failing. How many families can you name that have at least one "stay-at-home" parent? And how many single parent families do you know? I can name at least three. Even in Latino families, where the tradition has been towards strong, cohesive family values there is a growing trend towards both parents working. All in the pursuit of consumerism (I know you'll...
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Re: Why White People Are Afraid

Nmaginate ·
Also neatly put in this fashion: THE FEARS OF WHITE FOLK FEAR #1: THE FEAR OF facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. FEAR #2: THE FEAR OF losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable... in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary. FEAR #3: THE FEAR OF a system in which...
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Re: Why White People Are Afraid

Dissident ·
Happy to see you back, Nmaginate!
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Re: The True History of Malcolm X & the NOI

Nmaginate ·
1Mile? What is your point? Tell me how you've advance the discussion beyond the point where SHANGO said this: It's clear SHANGO laid out the very thing that answers your question as you continue on with this version of your Apologetics. ... AS STUDENTS OF HISTORY. That's how! And folk who are inclined to dismiss things from the NOI can very well be just as dismissive of Marable. Most folk ain't in love with people who come from the hard-core Black Radical Tradition. A lot of Black folk favor...
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Re: My Conversation with Mike Dyson (Who Controls Hip Hop)?

Blake Manner ·
Dr. Dyson said that Cathy Hughes was in studio with him today, so I decided to call in again to ask about her. This is what I said. He responded that people don't buy underground artists, so why support them. I did make a point to state that Spike Lee makes movies that focus on the issues he cares about, and is not driven by 'is ths going to sell or not'. He acknowledged this as true, but otherwise ignored that Radio One should do anything similar. I wish I could have had longer to talk,...
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Re: Black women on dog leashes defecating on the floor...only on MTV

Dusty Elbow ·
MTV draws fire for cartoon of black women on leash Wed Aug 9, 2006 02:40 AM ET By Steve Gorman LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A new MTV cartoon depicting black women squatting on all fours tethered to leashes and defecating on the floor is drawing fire from several prominent African Americans who call the episode degrading. Critics say MTV showed especially poor judgment because the weekly animated program, "Where My Dogs At?," appeals to young teens and airs at an hour, 12:30 p.m. on Saturdays,...
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Re: Jack and Jill anyone?

Shango67 ·
Actually Vox, I seriously think she would benefit from the organization because of her personality. It was NOT an attack. Glamour Doll would not be ready for the Nation of Islam, the New Black Panther Party, or the Shrine of the Black Madonna. She would be better able to meet Black folks who can accept or multiculural tone. So, Jack and Jill would be a place where she could meet people LIKE her. A safe place to explore Black culture. It ain't for me, but it is better to be organized. And...
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Re: Jack and Jill anyone?

Vox ·
I stand corrected, my bad. We agree wholeheartedly. Not just on her readiness for J&J vs. the others u point out, but also on the Deltas, even though I'm not Greek...
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Re: "Why Are All the Black Good Men Gone?"

TheProducer ·
You know, your right. The media (and the internet), has a tendency only highlight the worst in people and/or situations. No offense taken, I understand what you mean. I don't have any problem with black women, black culture or any people or culture (so long as that culture doesn't promote hate...I don't know if one would classify the hiphop "culture" as a real black culture, but just something created by entertainment industry as a way to make money, as you said), and I try to approach...
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Re: Juan Williams: Getting Past Katrina

Nmaginate ·
Even in all his SELF-HATE, he hasn't resolved to complete divest himself from the Black Community. In fact, the height of his hypocrisy has been shown when he has admitted to supporting (via viewing and listening to) the movies and music of those "SAMBOS" whom he pretends he can't stand. Neither has he divested from and not been a "co-conspirator" with the type of Black folk he has ideological issues with. Dude will brag that he supports Black bookstores, owners of which, by and large, don't...
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Re: Where are all the Black Women with HONOR?

Shango67 ·
Lookie here, trogladyte... For one, my name is spelled Shango - not shango . Continue to belittle my name by spelling it in lowercase letters and I will be happy to pick up where we left off. I have let it go over the last few posts but if you really want to get physical, we can do it. That is the problem with white bitches no matter where they are from, you have no respect unless you are around brothers who worship pink. In regards to your question... I use the term "devil" to refer to...
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Re: Joseph C. Phillips Interview

NSpirit ·
I am unconcerned if you think I am attacking joseph phillips. I find no legitimacy in many of the things he says...He can be heard commenting on NPR shows with Tavis Smiley and Ed Gordon. He is one of those Colin Powell quoting lift yourself up by the bootstraps people with nothing particularly relevant to add. How can he take issue with the "he talk like he white" sentiment and all that that entails if he has a stake in defending white americans? How can he legitimately speak to black this...
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Re: Exploding the Charter School Myth

leart ·
It seems as if the problem of Black Education originated with the lack of disipline and respect that has consummed the Black Culture in recent generations. The Children who are born into this Culture are just a by-product, and until we find a way to control the forces that has the greatest impact on these negative forces, education, employment, and criminal activity will not get any better. Blacks as a Group aren't dealing with the Core of the Problem. So that's why all you hear from Leaders...
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Re: WHAT'S GOING ON?

The Vision ·
She is most likely the cause of his cancer. Cancer ferments in the subconscious mind as a thought that turns into a physical manifestation. Cancer is fermenting ANGER
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Re: Jaguar Wright?

AudioGuy ·
Nothing personal, but... I have spent a good portion of my adult life explaining Black culture to white people and quite frankly I am tired of it... If you don't get it... you don't get it... I will say this though, Neo-Soul represents a return to real music, where people can sing and musicians can play w/o the need for a great deal of processing magic - something that seemed to be pushed to the back burner during the 90's. Isn't you boyfriend/husband African american? He doesn't have any ...
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Re: Jaguar Wright?

FireFly ·
nothing personal but... LOL!! I do 'get' the music... it's all the categorising nonsense and genre name calling I find it hard to keep track of. Personally, music comes first before the 'label'. Most commercial music is like commercial blockbuster filmmaking - crap! So, I'm glad of any re-focus back on the magic of the MUSIC instead of, and usually at the expense of, production. Unfortunately, when most Australians think of commerical American music (mainly talking white music here) there is...
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Re: Ebonics ?

James Wesley Chester ·
And I was disturbed by the term 'Black English'. If Ebonics is considered negative, then why are we attributing it exclusively to Black people? I can send you 10 whites, 10 Hispanics, and 10 Asians today who speak it. Does anyone know who created this expression?---SistaSouljah 'Black English is brought to you by the same folks who brought 'Black Culture', 'Black Church', 'Black Thought', 'Black-on-Black' Crime, ...you get the idea. These are the folks who 'know and love you.' To answer you...
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Re: Does Jonh Brown = Osama Bin Laden?

Kevin41 ·
CF is quick to call black azz entertainment based on ignorance and promiscuity black culture.....this self-hating negro paints black people in the most disparaging way he can all the time......we are just dumb, criminal, sambos and the whole nine..kinda like a palatable version of that other fool whose name I refuse to call.....but he does not even realize that his descriptions of black people and the punitive stance he takes on policy issues is a clear indicator that something internal is...
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Re: Does Jonh Brown = Osama Bin Laden?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Not so, my friend. The Black people who YOU are silent up on as you go after BLACK CONSERVATIVES do all of this for me. I just sit back and say "Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do". http://www.blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=1546&sid=c34d05b2...e06a474297319cb61d97 The main people who you SHOULD BE attacking because they are dragging us down YOU ARE SILENT UPON. You seem them as VICTIMS. I want to work to be your VICTIM Kevin. This way I will escape your CONDEMNATION for any...
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Re: Does Jonh Brown = Osama Bin Laden?

Kevin41 ·
Yep...blkCons speak as of racism as if it does not exist and adversely affect the lives of black people......even though there is factual data to the contrary.......they(blkCons) turn racism around and make it seem as if blacks are making excuses for their own shortcomings........because that kind of behavior on the part of the negro pleases white people........
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Re: Using Talent to Make a Difference

FireFly ·
hmmm... where is everybody? It is a tough one though... hard to choose I'd say. OK this is from an Australian perspective - meaning that we didn't get access to as broad a spectrum of African American Black culture - though we got to hear some of the music. I'm speaking historically, and not including hip-hop which of course currently has a H-U-G-E impact here, because I don't know all the names or who's most popular - and it is more a youth audience. So I'd nominate these performers as...
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Re: As a possible 'sister,' Condi Rice disappoints

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Kevin: Please answer this question with all of the HONESTY that you have in you: "Does the absence of Affirmative Action KEEP BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF COLLEGE?" Suplemental material: Is it out of ALL COLLEGES or just a particular COMPETITIVE COLLEGE? IF THE ABSENCE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION the main problem or are there problems "UPSTREAM" that have you to be DEPENDENT ON Affirmative Action to factor in for these problems? Are the UPSTREAM PROBLEMS broken BEYOND YOUR CAPACITY TO FIX THEM? Does...
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Re: Let the CULTURAL STRATEGIST Speak!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
INDEPTH DISCUSSION: 1) Clarity of Goals This is the foundation. Any journey has to define where it is going, how they can tell that they have arrived and how to keep moving if they find that they have exhausted all of the resources and need to move again so that they might survive. I would figure on broad goals that describe our state (High level of academic proficiency for all, High average state of health for all, economic prosperity in which individuals are able to apply their skills for...
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Re: THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!

Nmaginate ·
NTA, I appreciate you articulating part of my sentiment and rebuttal to CF's BS... PROLONGED EXPOSURE, indeed. But beyond that, CF's basic premise rest on the idea that Black People in America are an Island. He acts as if the PROLONGED EXPOSURE has had no effect. Neither does he account for the AMERICAN Culture that manifest (and how it manifest) in so-called Black Culture. Of course, he equate Black Culture with its negatives and other cultures with their positives. So by definition his...
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Re: THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I will tell YOU as I have told Noah. I don't mind the debates. I can't tollerate the MISREPRESENTATIONS. I have NOT stated that the "exposure" has not hurt. I HAVE ASKED YOU - "WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO BE EXPOSED"? You do have a choice, don't you?
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Re: THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!

Noah The African ·
Clearly, which is a word you like to use, we are demonstrating our choice...which is to clean up the polluted environment in which we were born into.
 
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