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Re: calling all fASHIONista men!!

Rowe ·
That's interesting because I was watching an old episode of Dave Chapelle the other night, and his musical guest was "Big Boi," one of the group members of the popular rap group, Outkast. He was wearing an outfit that was very similiar to the White dude's outfit that I described earlier in the discussion. But instead, the artist Big Boi wore a black velvet blazer with padded elbows, crisp white shirt, relaxed jeans, etc. Is Big Boi "gay?" I also spotted Will Smith wearing a velvet blazer...
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Re: calling all fASHIONista men!!

AudioGuy ·
There you go again, putting words in my mouth... You seem to forget that I live in D.C. and I have worked in the entertainment industry for 20+ yrs. I KNOW gay when I see/hear it... and the guy you described is gay or he definetely wants to be... The men that you described do not pick their own clothes, their "fashions" are usually picked by gay males... And I do not work "outside" of the entertainment industry... Sheeee's Back!!!
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
"Never To Be Forgotten" Renaldo "Obie" Benson/Singer with the Four Tops Lamont Bentley/Actor on "Moesha" Kenneth Bancroft Clark Shirley Anita Chisholm/Politician Johnnie Cochran, Jr./Famous Lawyer Shirley Horn/Jazz Singer Willie Hutch: Willie McKinley Hutchinson/ Motown Record Producer John H. Johnson/Publisher-Ebony Magazine, Jet Edward "Eddie" Patten/Member of Glady Knight and the Pips Constance Baker Motley/Attorney, Civil Rights Activist Rosa Parks/Civil Rights Activist Brock...
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Re: 2005--In Loving Memory Of....

Fine ·
Thx folobatuyi and HonestBrother. LOL--I have a revision: AITKEN, LAUREL/78 -- JAMAICAN SINGER BENNETT-SATTLER, JUDITH/54 -- ABUSE AGENCY LEADER BAIRD, HARRY/74 -- BRITISH ACTOR BAUGH, CECIL/96 -- JAMAICAN POTTER BENSON, RENALDO "OBIE"/69 -- MEMBER OF THE FOUR TOPS GROUP BENTLEY, LAMONT/31 -- ACTOR BERESFORD, RANDOLPH/91 -- BRITISH MAYOR OF HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM BROWN JR., OSCAR/78 -- SINGER/SONWRITER/ACTOR/PLAYWRIGHT CAMPBELL, LITTLE MILTON/70 -- BLUES ARTIST CARGILLE, PETER/41 -- JAMAICAN...
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Re: FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE!!! -How To Get A Man In Four Weeks Or Less - If You Want One

qty226 ·
I guess both men/women can only see their side of things...because of experiences. But i have issues with those that 'want' more than they 'are'. As Sweetwuzzy mentioned..... "Some Sisters suffer from low self-esteem. Society, relationship experts say, teaches that Black women are the lowest on the social scale--what Zora Neale Hurston calls "mules of the world." "Men have a much higher self-esteem," says Moore. "They are taught not to settle. No matter how they look or what age they are,...
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Re: Should Black People...

Empty Purnata ·
CF's attitude towards Black Business dealing with White Business reminds me of Malcolm X's attitude towards White people in a scene of the movie "Malcolm X" with Denzel Washington. Malcolm X (still "Malcolm Little" at the time) was a teenager/young adult working on a train as a waiter having to serve White passengers. He walked around carrying food trays with a big smile on his face calling out what food he was carrying. A White navyman (this was shortly after WWII) asks for some food, and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
Two things: 1 - Gambit, I wasn't talking to you. Turn that frown upside down. 2 - HonestB, you're still missing it, baby. Hee hee. It is not that men are going out and dating these "perfect women," it's that it's perfectly okay for them to want that and the same is not true for us. THAT is the double standard. It works like this: In front of a man stands Halle Berry and a random Plain Jane. Man: I choose Halle! Crowd Reaction: Naturally! Who wouldn't? In front of a woman stands Denzel and a...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
Frenchy, I think your the one who's missing it. The double stadard exists because men and women have different stadards. It's perfectly O.K. for men to want women that look like Halle Barry. It's perfectly O.K. for women to want men who look like Denzel Wahington. But, if that's what you want, then that's what you get. No complaining about personality issues that were not taken into considration at the outset. The issue being driven into the dirt here is "What are you looking for?" Are you...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
And I would take a nice, respectful Plain Joe over a Denzel any day of the week. But that's not the issue. It's about more than just what we are allowed to fantasize about and pursue. For women, who are already in a sexist society, it is yet another excuse for men to use to belittle, undermine, and irrationally blame us.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
The Double Standard only exists because of the different words being used. The different words being used are the evidence of different standards, not a double standard. If a women aims for the best, what is she aiming for specifically? Is she aiming for Denzel? Why? Is that the best? What this article was trying to point out is that, for women, finding love is about finding Category A. It's not about finding Denzel, unless Denzel fits Category A. Now, is that aiming for the best, or is it...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
I am apparently speaking a different language because you all are still not hearing me. I am not talking about the merits of a blue collar man. There's nothing wrong with a janitor or whatever else. I've expressed that several times now. Please go back and read the quotation that QTY pulled out of the article and her response. Then note your own comments in response, effectively proving exactly what both of us have been saying. Please also note the scenario that I posted. It's acceptable for...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
We're speaking the same langauge, you're just reading & comprehending in another one! Reread this portion: We're not talking about men wanting Halle or women wanting Denzel. Look around at couples next time you go out - how many men are "Denzel" & how many women are "Halle"? Most of us date & marry the "everywoman" too. What many of the men here have told you is this: We don't care about a woman's career when choosing a mate We don't care about a woman's degrees when choosing a...
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Re: The Greatness of Spike Lee

HonestBrother ·
"4 Little Girls" is great (and extremely difficult to watch at times). Another recent work by Spike is "A Huey P. Newton Story". This is fantastic! It stars Roger Guenveur Smith (Smiley from "Do the Right Thing") in a one man show. You can get info and purchase the DVD at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000EMYBQ/qid=1137806...07846&s=dvd&v=glance Editorial Reviews Product Description: A Huey P. Newton Story is an intimate portrait of Huey P. Newton, the late co-founder of the...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
I've been monitoring this debate, and apparently, both of you are trying to convey a similar message: Be more realistic. Black women: you can't have the Denzel look-alike with a six figure salary. And Black men: You can't have the tiny-figured Halle Berry look-alike who waits on you hand and foot. So I have a question for readers. Do you all think this culture's obsession with mega super stars has interferred with everyday people's interest in the opposite sex? Perhaps our standards are not...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Sweetwuzzy ·
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
We're going back and forth 'debating' whether it is right or wrong to desire scenarios that will rarely if ever happen. The average brotha dating Beyonce The average sista dating Denzel Double standard or not, these scenarios are fantasies ... Media Creations. * Dear Sistas and Brothas, let's get REAL *
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
For God's Sake! Denzel and Halle are only examples. The double standard plays out in normal everyday life! "What makes you think you deserve to date an attractive attorney?" "That's what you get for dating a 'pretty boy'?" "Who wouldn't choose the girl with the big butt over the brainiac? It's only natural to go after what is visually appealing!" Etc. This is NOT about specifically dating Denzels and Halles. This is NOT about lowering dating expectations. It's not about speicifcally dating...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Frenchy, I think I hear ya. But the "attractive attorney" or "doctor" and the "pretty boy" may be just other versions of "Denzel": widespread cultural ideals of what we're "supposed to want". I don't ever hear people setting their sights for the attractive engineer or mathematician or dentist. Much less the ambitious and intelligent young janitor. And I love Brainiacs - especially if they're cute - notice I said "cute" - not necessarily "fine"....
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
And I also don't see women aspiring for Brainiacs. I think people salivating over "Doctors", "Lawyers", or 'pretty boys" isn't too different from "Denzel". These are all about status.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
Yes, "Denzel" and "Halle" are just representations for whatever is considered the most outwardly appealing in the opposite sex, the "total packages."
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
What if "the total package" is just a fantasy too?
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

AudioGuy ·
*I know I'm gonna "catch it" for this, but...* I think that by virtue of the fact that there more women than there are men, limits the choices of women severely... If a woman is then "holding out" for a "Denzel the doctor" does that really make sense?? I also think, based upon my observation - however limited it may be, that a man will date/marry a woman regardless of her station in life... she could be working on the fryer at Mickey D's, but if she's cute she has almost as good a shot at...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
You keep waffling here. Are you saying that you want to be able to fantasize about getting these men or are you honest to goodness really wanting the right to hold out for the status-symbol-trophy-husband? Fantasies are free. And you have the right do hold out for whatever you want anyway. If that's what you're about then you just have to ignore what people say. But if what you're really saying is that this what to shoot for then I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for what I'm about to...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Sweetwuzzy ·
I still think you are missing the point. I believe Frenchy is complaining that women get dogged for wanting a particular guy (whether it be "the cream of the crop" or not) while guys are not dogged for wanting a particular women (whether it be the "cream of the crop" or not)
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Sweetwuzzy ·
I agree with you. Some women seem to put men into two categories. This is only going to lead to women being lonley due to excessively high standards.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
I'm not even saying that women should "lower" their standards. Here's a list of people who probably do NOT earn 6 figures or a comparable salary Albert Einstein Add almost any college professor to this list -(even many at Ivy League Schools) Most teachers/administrators in junior colleges Teachers in elementary and secondary education Most people in literature or the arts. Etc. I could go on if a really tried but I have a life But my point is not that women need to "lower" their vision. They...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Folks, I'm saying that I put myself second to no man. I'm not Denzel/Doctor/Laywer. And wanting me is NOT lowering your standards. I should add that I do have the right to use the title Dr. But I'm not an MD. I'm also saying that even when I was a 20 year old janitor, I was still the cream of the crop. <----------- Man with a healthy ego
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
Honest & AG - The three of us have said the same thing to the ladies. No one is denying fantasy. But the reality is that everyone can't be a high social status, high income, buff, male idol. Please substitute the female analogues for those of you that still haven't realized I'm speaking about men & women. This means, somebody has to date & marry the "every Jane/Joes". Men have an easier time, IMO, accepting this fact. I'm glad my mom wasn't such an elitest. Otherwise, I might not...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
This is NOT the point, AG. No one is encouraging women to date only a Denzel. No one is saying Denzels are the only quality men. No one is saying that we want the right to hold out for a Denzel. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF STRIVING FOR A "DENZEL" WITHOUT HEARING A BUNCH OF FRIGGIN LIP ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO REFOCUS/REVISE/RETHINK BECAUSE WE DON'T DESERVE IT OR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GIVING THE "LOWER-RUNG" OF BROTHAS A CHANCE OR WHATEVER OTHER REASON. The same way that men can strive for the...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
I'm not waffling. I've been saying the same thing repeatedly. You are just not trying to read what is written. Neither. *Sigh* Black women deserve to be able to consider the "cream of the crop" as a viable dating and marriage option without being lectured about lowering standards/"being more realistic"/etc. I've broken it down into scenarios before, but apparently no one reads them or you can't see past the word "Denzel" without going off on a tangent. Last time. Scenario A Man: I want to...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Numbers don't mean a thing to me when I'm single as hell... as evidenced by the fact that I'm here typing this rather than doing something else. Numbers mean nada. Whatever...I've never heard this coming from anywhere... I don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. And stand by this statement. Because if you actually read what I wrote NO it doesn't fit the scenario you gave.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

AudioGuy ·
We men strive for the woman who is the prettiest available ... again, regardless of her station in life... Women, on the other hand, strive for the prettiest available and the mercedes ... Frenchy... back away from the computer, these are just opinions - nobdy is claiming to be Dr. Phil here. It is not a reduction !! I can't speak for anybody anybody else, but I contribute to this because it is a discussion forum . Quite obviously, yes.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
Have Black Women Gotten Out Of The Black Man's Reach? Brother Honestbrother, Frenchy's argument is that whatever a woman's idea of a best pick is, she should be able to pursue such a man, if she so chooses. Whether her idea of a best pick is Denzel or Mr. T--that is her business . Women are not children that require special guidance or direction. Women are grown adults just as men are adults, responsible for making their own decisions . Also, another explanation for why more women are...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

bigddouble ·
You are funny Ms. Rowe! You have attempted to guide & instruct the men here regarding our choices. You have attempted to tell us what we have to do be acceptable mates (more guiding!). Then you stop it off by posting: Pot. Kettle. Black. We understand the argument, but like I mentioned a few pages back, it sets up a catch-22. Develop whatever criteria you like, but don't blame us for the results of setting your criteria. Judging by some of the threads here, we are being convicted with...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
Rowe, Frenchy is a grown adult who didn't say any of this. So why put words into her mouth? Second, hasn't someone been trying to instruct other people on what female beauty is? We men contribute to the discussion because we're the ones who get acid stomach listening to the NEVER ENDING COMPLAINTS FROM BLACK WOMEN about how there are no men.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

xxGAMBITxx ·
Lawd oh Lawd! People ask me why I don't display much (if any) emotion when I'm in relationships and this thread is why. Rationality folks, rationality. No one (well most no ones) wants someone they "have to carry". Thats a given. If you want a Denzel/Halle, go for it. But if Denzel/Halle don't want you back, suck it up and move on (or keep trying and get your heart broke again). Same goes for the average brother/sister. But one thing I've learned is this. Nothing will change. We are too set...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Rowe ·
Brother Honestbrother, please review these comments to see that the women participating in this thread have been supporting your arguments all along. Perhaps you have chosen to read only what you want to read?
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
Poison Justice Stevens, Coulter jokes LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas (AP) -- Conservative commentator Ann Coulter, speaking at a traditionally black college, joked that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Coulter had told the Philander Smith College audience Thursday that more conservative justices were needed on the Supreme Court to change the current law on abortion. Stevens is one of the court's most liberal members. "We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

HonestBrother ·
Too bad somebody didn't put rat poison in Ann Coulter's cappuchino.... And that wasn't a joke.
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
"The point is NOT that "janitors aint shit" or however else things were apparently interpreted." (-Frenchy, 1/19/06, 6:10 PM, Page 2) "And I would take a nice, respectful Plain Joe over a Denzel any day of the week. But that's not the issue. " (-Frenchy, 1/19/06, 7:32 PM, Page 2) "I am not talking about the merits of a blue collar man. There's nothing wrong with a janitor or whatever else. I've expressed that several times now." (-Frenchy, 1/20/06, 5:43 PM, Page 2) "This is NOT about...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Max ·
Hello, Max here! I just wanted to make sure I understand what Frechy is saying: When black men lust after Halle Berry-types, they are not reprimanded, because it is expected/accepted-practice for black men to aspire to have a woman like Halle without any REAL justification. But... When black women lust after Denzel-types (even when the black women who ARE justified in wanting someone like him), they're harshly criticized as being materialistic, shallow and hated-on for overlooking that...
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Re: Executives' Pensions Are the Deal of a Lifetime

Kweli4Real ·
In another thread, CF cited to spouse abuse in Africa and eluded to oppression in some Arab states. He then asked for the Capitalistic equivalent. Well, CF, here ya go:
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

HonestBrother ·
I don't know about where you live but where I live I don't see tons of black men dating white women. And if I'm one of the people on thee boards you're talking about (dating white women), I'VE ALSO said that I've dated black women exclusively (EXCLUSIVELY - that is turning down everyone else) for the last few years. And if I've dated white women in the past, it's because I couldn't find a black woman who 1) Didn't have a major attitude problem about black men 2) Wasn't look for a 6 figure...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

qty226 ·
So i can say the same about you, that Dissident, is saying about black women........?? Youre making excuses!!! ???????
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

HonestBrother ·
I'm not making excuses. I'm telling you honestly about my real world life experience. EVERY time I go near a sista it seems like I should expect the same outcome. NADA. And I've gone out with more than 20 people (black women) in the last few years. I look back at my life and I see that I have a much better track record dating white women. And I have to seriously asking myself what the hell is the matter. I'm serious. I DON'T KNOW. This shit DRIVES ME CRAZY. I just met this sista a week ago.
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

Khalliqa ·
hmmmmm.....Was the grass greener on the other side? May I offer my opinion? A Black woman may have an attitude because she's been hurt.... How do you respond to someone in pain?.... You offer comfort.... not judgment.... that will come later... after they know that you are someone they can trust will not hurt their heart anymore.....She may not be the one... but she is your "sister" so to speak.... and needs her self-image and hope revitalized if just in an instant..... Your brethren have...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Negrological ·
pardon my utter ignorance on this subject but is denzel washington really a conservative??? i recognize most of the faces (on that website) and certainly identify with them as conservative but denzel is throwing me for a loop. guess it's the malcolm x flashbacks...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

kresge ·
As I said, I think the issue is really what one deems or can make a case for relevance. For example, why are books on Linux more relevant than say Souls of Black Folk by WEB Du Bois. Why is Dancing Wu Li Masters more relevant than Toni Morrison's Beloved or Michel Foucaults Order of Things . I would have removed much of the science fiction and the electronic texts and included more historical (African Diasporic as well as European) and sociological, philosophical, and anthropological texts...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Yemaya ·
Here's not so much an opposing view, but a different view on how the symposium went. I enjoyed the symposium for the fact that it even exists, but I can understand where the author of this article is coming from. Although we love our educated black folks and they have great ideas, the masses want some action. Why is Tavis Smiling? And Why are we watching? Every year, radio/tv commentator Tavis Smiley holds a forum that brings together "the best and the brightest" African-Americans from...
 
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