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Re: Negroes who defend the status quo once they've "gotten theirs"

Kevin41 ·
** This is why we must push to educate the black populous. For the last few years, the CalStart program that sends lower-income people to the CalState schools had a surplus of money. While a teacher in that system, I was able to get people to encuorage others they knew to apply for and utilize the monies available. Between that and contributing to black organizations for thelast 20 years and taking young black males to Camp Sigma to learn about self-esteem, acacdemic acheivement and gang,...
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Re: We lost almost a full percentage in IT workforce count over 9 year period

Dusty Elbow ·
The economic unit model on that picture. Is that a house, our economy or any goods in general? How does the economist come into the picture with this. It looks like depreciation is sneaking out the backdoor. Since there is net worth I googled a search for "gross worth" and a page says they are both the same. Not many pages talk about "gross worth" with google results coming at... Results 1 - 100 of about 726 for "gross worth". (1.38 seconds) with "net worth" googled at Results 1 - 100 of...
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Re: Panjea live - HOT!

FireFly ·
What others say...and another pic... not great quality but hey I was busy dancing. "What a strange confluence of forces this Californian is. He seems to be a Western white man channelling music from deep in the heart of Africa and the Caribbean diaspora. Unlike most Western people who borrow from African traditions, such as Paul Simon, Mick Fleetwood and Ginger Baker, Berry didn't go on a snatch-and-grab mission. He went to southern Africa in 1990, stayed for more than a decade, married a...
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Re: Question for Kresge?

kresge ·
AG, This is not an area of expertise for me, but I would there are folks who do a lot in the area of creation spirituality in Christianity. You might want to do a search on Matthew Fox and Thomas Berry (author of The Dream of the Earth ). This is also a topic dealt with from time to time by the folks who are a part of the Sojourners community in Washington, DC as well as folks associated with the magazine The Other Side in Philadelphia. Finally, I would suggest searches on eco-spirituality,...
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Re: Are You a Racist?

MidLifeMan ·
Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. It implies coming to a judgment on a subject before learning where the preponderance of evidence actually lies, or forming a judgment without direct experience. Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Reading for COMPREHENSION is fundamental. I SAID FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE WHITE LIBERAL RACIST as long as the Black man does not express any notions of REAL INDEPEDENCE - such as the drive for REPARATIONS - then the Black man will remain in the good graces of the White Protective Liberal. When Ted Kennedy is "attacking the system" on behalf of the BQPF he is a friend who will help them acheive their goals WITHIN THE SYSTEM ITSELF. When the issue of REPARATIONS comes about it is TED...
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

HonestBrother ·
GOODIE !! You're already learning for 2006!!!! You're going to get reparations from the party of George W? You're kiddin right? As usual, your assertions depend on rigid stereotypes of * both * White Liberals AND black liberals. I'm not going to waste my time picking this crap apart. There are no more xenophobic capitalists. Where have you been for the last 15 years?
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Re: Education: then and now, Thomas Sowell

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
I am not sure why I waste my time. I said NOTHING about getting reparations from Bush. Several weeks ago a frat brother of mine told me that Bush wasted billions in Iraq that he could have given to Black people as reparations. I asked him why is he so vocal about what "his enemy" has failed to do with his deficit spending to fund a war but he is so silent about what his friend has failed to do to pay the debt he owes to Blacks all the while having a SURPLUS. The end result for Black people...
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Re: Vouchers ???

Isome ·
John Stossel has been a right wing shill for as long as he's been a part of 20/20. NOT showing both sides of the story is his modus operandi. excerpted from the book Banana Republicans How the Right Wing Is Turning America into a One-Party State by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber Jeremy Tarcher/Penguin, 2004 The career of John Stossel on ABC's 20/20 offers another example of the way the echo chamber works to place conservative ideas into the mainstream media, while hiding the interests of...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
Ummm... No, obviously, you don't. And this is exactly why: "I see there being two sides to the process." I'm going to be crude because you're working under the false assumption that Black people need to know something about White people. That's a rather curious idea especially when you say: Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Hmmm... Black people know White Privilege. What is it you think Black people stand to learn about White people...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Isome ·
The above post is why online communities like this are frequently distracted from unifying dialogue. Don't look at MBM... look at the shyt-stirrers and misfits who are hell bent on telling other Black folks that the white people way is the only way to go. While it goes without saying that we don't always agree, for the most part, we can disagree without losing sight of our commonalities. It's people like the above who are the malevolent, disruptive sources in online communities, and there...
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Re: The 'Promised Land': Why We're Still Waiting

Nmaginate ·
A straight line is always the direct route. Why the detour? Why would White people need to know "What It's Like To Be Black"... why would they need to "listen" to anything like that when you say the object is to End White Privilege? A straight line... Very few white people ever think about 'being white' and what that means... white privilege. Okay. Why isn't White Privilege - i.e. White people taking it upon themselves to examine White Privilege - an INTRAracial Dialog you're trying to seek?
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Re: Experience with Gypsies?

Frenchy ·
I made it back (obviously). Had a wonderful time the first few days and then I got really sick (still sick now). Nothing like trying to find a doctor in a foreign country at 2am. I spend a couple of days in bed, but then I was back out on the street because I had so much I wanted to see. BUT, other than that, everything was wonderful. Yummy, yummy pasta, magnificent sights (all the monuments are sooooo HUGE! everywhere I went I felt so small and, sort of, insignificant), really friendly...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Isome: Please detail the ERRORS in my post that you refer to INSTEAD of the points that YOU disagree with? Are they "wrong" because YOU disagree with them or are they "wrong" in absolute terms? It is interesting that when AMERICA talked about "unifying behind the flag" after the 9/11 attacks SOME PEOPLE like Al Sharpton wisely saw the consequences of doing so. (another positive comment about a Black person, HB). He saw the call for UNITY as a call to put aside all of his concerns that were...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

MBM ·
As I've said many times over, there are thousands of African Americans who are 'doing their thing' in this country - achieving at the highest levels and acting in a way that is unencumbered by the ills that you are fixated on. It's a shame that this part of our community is apparently out of your view.
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Thanks for the heads up, CF! As a college teacher I now have a warning to be prepared for the * intellectual confusion * you're sending my way. And note the correct spelling of A-C-H-I-E-V-E-M-E-N-T Echoing MBM, you still don't get it. You're not addressing a bunch of failures in this forum. Some of us success stories * are * the result of the supposed fundamentalism you rail against. Another * lesson on leadership * : modify what comes out of your f*cking mouth to take into account who your...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
EVEN MORE!! http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml More responses to "Do Black Men Still Want Us?" Spirited comments about romantic options and worries Letters to the Editor Published October 2, 2004 Where is the love? A magazine asks whether black men still desire black women. Eight men offer their answers. Black women speak out Earlier this week, African-American men answered women's question "Do Black Men Still Want Us?' Now women discuss their romantic...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My take on Part One:...in bold When elementary school teacher Patti Hairston picked up Monday's edition of the St. Petersburg Times, she braced herself. "I knew there would be negative things said about black women by black men," she said. very interesting, esp. since the writer of the original article was merely seeking the 'other side' of the Essence article. Lori Chung, 28, associate TV news producer, single, Brooklyn Personally, I don't feel the love from black men to black women and...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

RadioRaheem ·
My Take on part two..in bold http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/02/Floridian/More_responses_to__Do.shtml Andre King Great article on the status of black man/woman relationships. I don't think that that is the end of the black man's opinion on this, however. Even though there were a variety of opinions on the subject, most of them seemed little more than simple preferences. And that is what I think all of this boils down to. If I were to date a woman of another race, I would date her because I...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Black Viking ·
I know this thread seems to have gotten a little bit off track, but no one has been attacking you personally. You actually don't need to know anything at all in order to be a part of this community. Just be willing to share, and hear what others have to share. I'll be the first to say that there's alot I don't know, and I usually ask more questions than I offer answers (I'm sure Nmaginate will back me up on that one ). Like Rowe posted earlier, there are many forums in this community that...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

AudioGuy ·
With him, I think the emphasis was on bachelor and not the studies part... Your story remeinded me af a kid from Jamaica that was interning where I worked... We were engaged in converstion about something and he said that African Americans were lazy & Jamaicans are hard working... I stopped him in mid sentence and said: "what about all those unemployed MF's that are in Jamaica that sit around and wait for ships to come in so they can beg the tourists for money? You trying to tell me that...
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Re: Who Should Pay for Reparations? Black Americans... Obviously

Nmaginate ·
I already answered you question. RHETORIC ain't shit, Opey. I said: Someone must have forgot to tell him that was NEVER in question. Who doubted or rather who tried to cast doubt on whether WE CAN SUCCEED or not? There is too much of a history of unshakeable faith, courage and BELIEF in the abilities of Black people by our ancestors for anyone to ever, unthinking make the statement that "WE CAN SUCCEED" because, by definition, it means there was some reason to believe that we couldn't. Now,...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

qty226 ·
You know.....i expected a man to throw another 'race' of women in this equation. It seems that a lot of brothas, still want to hold this over our heads. Think again.......please notice that sistas are complaining less about these issues, we are finally getting the point.....and for the most part, are moving on. (well at least i am) Also, i find it funny, that you commented on the fact of "blue collar workers", but you said nothing about how brothers, turn away decent sistas because of their...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

HonestBrother ·
And I'm also saying that being blue collar doesn't necesarily tell you about what's inside that person or what they're capable of. Yes I was a janitor once. But I was bright and curious and read a lot even then. I have a Ph.D. now. And if I dated outside my race it was in part because I had such a hard time finding a sister before I had a Ph.D. Lighten up. Open up your eyes...Realize... Isn't that a song?
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
Why do people insist on judging others based upon stereotypes? Nice come back!
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Re: Experience with Gypsies?

Frenchy ·
This is around the corner from our Hotel and is exactly why you have to be an agressive pedestrian in Rome. There are very few traffic lights (which they ignore for the most part anyway) and traffic comes from every direction. You have to walk right out in front of it and they will screech and swerve and manuever around you. If not, you will be stuck on the sidewalk all day.
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Empty Purnata ·
Great idea! I didn't even quite think of that. Now, the money could, in part, come from federal grants, but alot of it would have to come probably from our own tax money and out of business profits. I wouldn't mind tax money going into something that actually helps US.
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Re: Cathy Freeman goes bush...

FireFly ·
I found this story about the making of the series. Freeman and Mailman go bush Issue 95 By Erin McWhirter, TV Writer NATIONAL, Jan 19, 2005: It takes a lot to make Olympic gold medallist Catherine Freeman cry. Throughout her life the sports star has been through the devastation of losing big races and other personal dramas, but she rarely cries. However, a recent road trip with actress and pal Deborah Mailman changed all that. In an instant, the city slickers who spent seven weeks travelling...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Noah The African ·
I think that actions are motivated by emotions, when not motivated directly by instinct without thought. Some emotions thus produce an instinctive reaction, such as fear producing the action resultant of fight or flight. Unity is an action and hence requires a prerequisite emotion to motivate towards the instinctive reaction to the emotion. There is nothing that creates unity more than a shared enemy. This is why this nation always embarks upon a campaign of demonizing an entity in order to...
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Frenchy ·
I'm not waffling. I've been saying the same thing repeatedly. You are just not trying to read what is written. Neither. *Sigh* Black women deserve to be able to consider the "cream of the crop" as a viable dating and marriage option without being lectured about lowering standards/"being more realistic"/etc. I've broken it down into scenarios before, but apparently no one reads them or you can't see past the word "Denzel" without going off on a tangent. Last time. Scenario A Man: I want to...
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Kola speaks volumes in her discussion about race and beauty in America. Her thorough discussion about the ways in which the White supremacist concept of whiteness has impacted people globally is reminiscent of the research done by Neely Fuller and Dr. Francis Welsing. I'm certain her analysis has been heavily influenced by Dr. Fuller's United Independent Compensatory Code. Thanks for sharing. Loved it! What is Beauty? Within a world dominated by White Supremacy it is vitally important...
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Re: Al Sharpton Accuses Bush Of Fueling Homophobia Among Blacks

Black Viking ·
Obviously you weren't paying attention when I gave the legal definition of illegal discrimination. Go back, read my last post, and try again. Please pay close attention to the "to the exclusion of another" part and then explain how anything you just posted makes any sense at all.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

kresge ·
IMO, the attraction is rooted in the signifying, displacement, projection or othering that is part of white supremacy. If one sets up these binaries of white/black, good/bad, chase/sexual and libidinous, saintly/sinner one will see this phenomenon of love/hate. Women of color have historically been portrayed as sexual, erotic, alluring, dark and mysterious as well as ugly, undesirable, and repulsive. The "other" both attracts and repells. It fascinates and terrifies.
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Re: Kola Boof Speaks: Race & Beauty In America

Rowe ·
Sister Marimba Ani (1994), speaking on the collective hypocrisy exhibited by Europeans in Chapter one of her book Yurugu: An African-Centered Critique of European Thought and Behavior believes hypocrisy is a "way of life" for Europeans. She would undoubtedly agree with the explanations you and Brother Nayo have provided. Hypocrisy as a Way of Life Marimba Ani Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of "moral" behavior that has no meaning for the members of...
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Re: Keeping A 'Black Book' on Black Cops

Black Viking ·
No kidding! Were they expecting a different result this time? I thought these to words were synonymus in a cops mind. More synonyms. OK Johnson, explain how one of these is somehow worse than the other. There is a reason why we have such a hard time listening to these double speaking politicians, it's because they say crap like this. He won't "apologize", but he has "expressed regret"? If this is even remotely true, how did he get himself into this mess in the first place? What Police...
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Re: Black Unity: Moving Beyond The RHETORIC

Yemaya ·
Great post Noah! We don't allow ourselves to see other black people as being "black like us" and vice versa. Often times the majority of our people are suffering from the sames types of issues and don't even know it because there is a certain amount of disconnect. Some of the disconnect is external and some is internal. If we overcome the internal disconnect, we can definitely overcome the external disconnects.
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Re: Black enterprise: Understanding Africa's Persistent Poverty

Dusty Elbow ·
Yeah I had too laugh initially with the shade tree part of the article. But I think Black Enterprise did that to save them some grace of supporting Hernando deSoto ideas outright in their article. But only a capitalist thinks and turn profit off anything they touch. Didn't the story the King Midas golden touch is a European capitalist type of thinking. So this type of thinking isnt rare.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: I guess old Al is afraid they won't need him to be "informed"......

Kevin41 ·
puleeze......Aaaron Mcgruder is placing positive messages in all of his shows.....more than any of that other bullschit on TV...like the one about eating all that heavy azz food and dying as a part of tradition in black families. I get the point(message) and how the episode had really good shock value to it.....there are different ways of getting different people's attention and I bet that show made allot more people pay attention that would have not normally listened to a preacher wailing...
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Re: Conservative Idiots

Kevin41 ·
Poison Justice Stevens, Coulter jokes LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas (AP) -- Conservative commentator Ann Coulter, speaking at a traditionally black college, joked that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned. Coulter had told the Philander Smith College audience Thursday that more conservative justices were needed on the Supreme Court to change the current law on abortion. Stevens is one of the court's most liberal members. "We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme...
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Re: Your house is burning...!!!!

FireFly ·
that's a tough one! I love books and I tend to keep them because they become part of me and where I've journeyed. Depending on which room I'm in, it would be between a copy of The Happy Prince , by Oscar Wilde, that my aunty gave me as a child - precious stories and precious gift from someone very special. Or, Native Nations, by Edward S. Curtin. To cut a long story short, he was a photographer in the 1800s and set about compiling a 12 volume set of books detailing and recording...
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Re: Asking too much?

donna529 ·
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ADMIRE YOU FOR BEING IN A SITUATION, AND HANDLED IT WITH PRIDE. GIRLFRIEND, I WISH I WOULD HAVE WAITED BEFORE I GOT MARRIED, BUT I DIDN'T. THIS IS NOT TO BE LOOKED DOWN ON. YOU WILL BE SURPRISED ABOUT HOW MANY MEN...YES MEN, THAT ARE STILL VIRGINS, AND LOOKING FOR A WOMAN THAT IS A VIRGIN TOO. DO NOT LET YOUR SO-CALLED FRIENDS TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE FUTURE GOAL YOU WANT TO REACH. DEEP DOWN I WILL BET YOU A DOLLAR THEY ADMIRE YOU, BUT LAUGHED BECAUSE...
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

Rowe ·
The public has launched attacks against the fashion industry's narrow standard of beauty for quite some time. In the 80's, for example, there was a great concern for White teenage girls who suffered from anorexia nervosa and bulemia as a result of them trying to look like the super models being featured in popular fashion magazines. Feminists, parents, and other concerned members of the community criticized fashion editors harshly for not featuring "normal-sized" women in their magazines,...
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Re: father claims rights denied

sunnubian ·
"I am not sure where you practice law, but in NJ, child support is calculated based on both incomes," ----------------------------------------------- I could have sworn that I stated that, but anyway, since that is how it is caculated, how can it be unfair to either party, especially to him or whichever parent does not actually have the children? -------------------------------------------- "thereafter, the non-custodial parent, pays in cash or check directly to the cusotidal parent or to...
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Re: A Narrow View of Black Women

Frenchy ·
That behavior/mindset extends world-wide. Anna Wintour says straight out that she won't even hire women who aren't pin thin to work in any of her offices because she doesn't want that look associated with Vogue. Karl Lagerfeld was highly pissed that H&M decided to make his stuff in plus sizes because he only "makes clothing for slender women." Europe is the number one champion of Euro beauty. And everyone else follows suit. I don't know if I can really appreciate what Suzy Brokensha has...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Black Viking ·
What separates a embryo or a fetus from a person is defined by nature and not by human law or religious dogma. It's very simple really, it's the womb. It's not a person until it is a separate entity no longer directly dependant on the mother's bodily systems to support it. While in the womb, it is still a part of the mother's body, and incapable of independant life. It is similar to a hand or a finger. Is it alive? Yes. But if you cut it off it dies quickly, unable to sustain itself or be...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

MBM ·
So the soul enters the body, or is created, at conception in your opinion? BTW - couldn't it also be argued that the soul is decidedly NOT human? That it is 'of God' or exclusively part of the 'spirit world'? Isn't the soul a conduit to God? If so - then what does it have to do with a "human being" in the sense that we're discussing? The soul/spirit defines us as humans?
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

kresge ·
I am not sure what my opinion is on the first question these days. I was simply trying to offer a context in which the Pope's statement was made. As to the latter comment, within the Christian tradition, only human beings have souls so the only souls are human. They are created by God, they are not parts of God. There is often a distinction made between soul and spirit. Spirit sometimes means simply the animating force. Thus, animals have spirits, but not souls. There are also lines of...
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Re: Pope: Embryo = "Full and complete human being"

Empty Purnata ·
What is funny is that this "Christian" thought is borrowed from Platonism. The idea that the soul is eternal and not a part of God is Platonic and not supported in the Bible (especially the Old Testament). According to Ezekiel "The soul that sins, dies"; in Genesis, it claims that the "soul" is actually the Breath of God which retuns to breath after death. This doesn't support the Christian notion of an Eternal Soul that becomes human at conception (that's almost like saying that life begins...
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