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Re: Reparations for Native Americans?

MBM ·
Nmaginate - in light of the recent article you posted where the argument for reparations was predicated more on a general "wrong" done slaves than slavery itself, this post begs the question if Native Americans have received _enough_ pay back for what they have suffered. Was the "wrong" they suffered sufficiently compensated by America? BTW - the two paragraphs in the original post are completely independent questions. It asks if what Native Americans recieved is/can be considered a...
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Re: father claims rights denied

bigddouble ·
The problem is that there is no accountability for the money paid via child support. The custodial parent does not have to prove they are using the garnishment exclusively for the care of the children. I think the custodial parent should have to produce receipts, verifying proper usage of the support payment. Additionally, anytime the custodial parent wants to request a change in custody status or support payments, you have to show up (with representation if you don't want to get screwed) or...
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Re: father claims rights denied

sunnubian ·
"I am not sure where you practice law, but in NJ, child support is calculated based on both incomes," ----------------------------------------------- I could have sworn that I stated that, but anyway, since that is how it is caculated, how can it be unfair to either party, especially to him or whichever parent does not actually have the children? -------------------------------------------- "thereafter, the non-custodial parent, pays in cash or check directly to the cusotidal parent or to...
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

ricardomath ·
Perhaps it might be good to look to history for the answer. There have been reparations for Jewish Holocaust survivores and for the Survivirs of Japanese Internment Camps during WWII. What has been the real effects for either of these groups in pursuing civil rights claims? Are there any examples that anybody is aware of where the payment of reparations has interfiered with any race specific legal claims?
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

MBM ·
The argument is completely nonsensical from a legal perspective. It seems more driven by fear, than by logic or legal precedent. That said, I'm curious about how people evaluate the trade-off.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

oddmodd ·
David Horowitz's is an idiot and anyone who adopts this ideology is an idiot. Black people of African decent are owe more money and restitution that America can afford. Every group from the Jews to Native Americans received some form of reparations for the devastating treament inflicted upon them by their attackers. African-Americans have never received a dime and up until the 1994 public apology by the Clinton Administration there has never a verbal condemnation on the part of the American...
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Re: Potential reduction in Child Support payments for non-custodial parents

bigddouble ·
More on the new formula calculation: The new child support formula Published on: 03/16/06 Georgia is changing the way child support payments are calculated. Last year, the General Assembly passed a law saying that when the amount of child support is calculated, noncustodial parents will no longer pay a flat percentage of their incomes; instead, the income of both parents will be taken into account. It also passed a "parenting time" adjustment that would give noncustodial parents a reduction...
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Re: WHERE DO YOU STAND?

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
African-Americans will never be able to carry out the "popular political will" of the masses as long as they reside inside the scope of power and influence of a greater power. LIKEWISE, stepping outside of this power will require that they take responsibility for all of the variables that operate upon them that they are not required to do so today: Fund and operate National Defense Provide for the general state of the environment - air, water Provide for the healthcare of the masses -state...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

Yemaya ·
I don't think so. An example of restitution that was ordered by the federal government was the payment of money to black farmers who were actively discriminated against in getting loans to save their farms. The judgement was for the Department of Agriculture to pay the farmers. As of last the judgement against the Department of Agriculture has not been paid in full. As a matter of fact, some black farmers marched down ot D.C. in 2004 to demand payment in full. This story was ONLY covered by...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

Frenchy ·
*Yemaya approaches every white person she sees with a clipboard.* "Sir, have you or any one in your family tree ever own slaves, benefitted from slave labor, knew someone who owned slaves and didn't criticize them in any way, laughed during a showing of 'Roots', or ever used the phrase 'What's the big deal? Slavery is over'?" "You have?" *Fills out an invoice.* "Please remit your payment immediately." There really are a whole lot of people that should be getting a bill if we are going to...
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Re: Suicide Prevention

Len ·
That is exactly right and is why people need other support systems perhaps someone to point them in the right direction, such as a family member, friend, or community-based organizations. I do know that county hospitals will treat severe mental illness free of charge or work out a payment plan according to income. Also, some community-base organizations may provide these services for free or at a low-cost according to income. The point is help is out there. As long as people feel hopeless,...
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Re: What Ever Happened To...

msprettygirl ·
For Release: August 18, 2003 Marketers of Copa Hair System Agree to Settle FTC Charges GoodTimes Entertainment to Pay $100,000 in Civil Penalties and $200,000 in Consumer Redress GoodTimes Entertainment Limited (GoodTimes) and GT Merchandising & Licensing Corporation (GTM&L), direct marketers headquartered in New York City, have agreed to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that they made unsubstantiated claims for the "Copa Hair System" (Copa), and placed unauthorized charges on...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

Kweli4Real ·
LMBAO, Faheem. NO FAHEEM!!! You have it mistaken. It wasn't Lynch's White skin that accounts for the difference in treatment, it was her blonde hair. In the continuing effort to feed the sheep, uhm, provide the American public with fair and balanced reporting of our progress in this war against terrorist aggression, we had to pick someone to highlight. And, everybody knows that blonde hair looks better on camera than those Knaps Johnson was sporting. So, we picked Lynch. And, we couldn't...
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Re: Ex-POW's Family Accuses Army Of Double Standard on Benefit

EbonyRose ·
LOL! Y'all are really funny! I found this version of this story where apparently the Army returned the call and gave their response to this situation. Family Says Army Shortchanging Former POW By CHRIS ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer EL PASO, Texas - The father of former prisoner of war Shoshana Johnson on Friday accused the Army of shortchanging his daughter of disability benefits after she was offered a smaller paycheck than fellow POW Jessica Lynch. "She is not getting what she...
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Re: Should felons be allowed to vote?

James Wesley Chester ·
Of course, it's unfair. It"s intended to be unfair. The number of males in the African America per capita was much greater than in the European population. The design of the was remove those males from the voting potential of African America. No women could vote at the time. Creating felons had already been taken care of with the design (legislation), enforcement (police), and interpretation (court) of the law. There is no real reason to prevent a person, who has completed his/her payment to...
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Re: Black Women vs. White women:SHOSHANNA JOHNSON VS. JESSICA LYNCH!

Prophetessofrage ·
A Long History of Affirmative Action - For Whites Many middle-class white people, especially those of us from the suburbs, like to think that we got to where we are today by virtue of our merit - hard work, intelligence, pluck, and maybe a little luck. And while we may be sympathetic to the plight of others, we close down when we hear the words "affirmative action" or "racial preferences." We worked hard, we made it on our own, the thinking goes, why don't 'they'? After all, the Civil Rights...
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Re: Michael Jackson: Pedophile?

Kevin41 ·
You are one opportunist motherf-ker Lofton.......those people wanted to get paid..so spend your time equally talking about white parents who sell their children's souls for profit......anyone who allows a payment to be made to them in order to skip court (as in Mike's first allegation) is just prostituting their kids out for profit (if the allegations are true). Be sure and show equal disdain for the parents who allowed their kids to go to his ranch after the first accusations will you? Any...
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Re: It Doesn't Look Like We've Lost Jobs, in fact a gain of 2.6 million MORE jobs under Bush!

Lofton (Guest) ·
"Read the other post Lofton....I am not about to play that stupid azz "chase lofton's repetitive posts" game. Like I said in the other post....my reality is your reality if you are black as you claim to be......so save the bitching.....get out and do something to rectify the situation since you have your panties in a bunch.....don't just whine and moan.....make a change your damn self........" by Kevin41 ....well I'm controlling the game, while you continue to play that stupid *?*^# chase,...
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Re: The Case for Repatriation: Revisited

soul_doctor73 ·
Jim, Yssys, this is REPATRIATION. Restoration to one's native land. Not 'reparations'. Not reimbursment for labor previously provided. For all I care, they can have that labor, everything we built, and all the memories. Just send me home. I want a one way ticket out of this joint. On the next thing going if it's possible. Repatriation allows for us to establish our own identity and nationality. It is a return to OUR ways, not a payment for what was done to us. I am so far beyond monetary...
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Re: In Colombia's jungles, echoes of Argentina's 'Disappeared'

ricardomath ·
A Piece of Boyhood Is Stolen Wed Dec 31, 3:38 AM ET By T. Christian Miller Times Staff Writer SOGAMOSO, Colombia "” The guerrilla swung the boy up on his shoulders in the cold mountain air. "Come on," he said, looking up at the child. "There's a big animal in the woods that gives presents to children." Then the guerrilla and 3-year-old Oscar Ricaurte disappeared into the fog. The boy's mother, Leticia, could not speak. She could not move. Her arms hung limp. When will I next hold my son? she...
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Re: Experts: Executive pay still out of control

Nmaginate ·
I guess the last part was a bit of a joke... Anyway... Who exactly are you comparing [other] business CEO's to when you talk about Sports & Entertainment? Surely not the players? They would be the workers wouldn't you think? What makes you overlook the CEO's or equivalents in Sports & Entertainment? The players and movie stars aren't running the business affairs of their teams. I don't get you point in bringing that up but you will note that at least in the NBA there is a salary...
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Re: Experts: Executive pay still out of control

James Wesley Chester ·
My use of "chump change" was comparative. The point of the thread, I thought, was the pay given by the employer to one versus the other. PEACE Jim Chester You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

EgbertSouse ·
MBM, My folks emigrated to the United States in 1958. To our knowledge, they were the first of my ancestors on either side to come to America. As such, shouldn't they be entitled to a discount off their reparations payment?
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

MBM ·
ES - I disagree with our policy in Iraq. Does that entitle me to a discount on the taxes I pay to support that effort?
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Re: Why Should We Just "Get Over It"?

MBM ·
First, if you have read anything of the hundreds of posts that I have on the topic, you'd know that there is little that is "emotional" about my position on this. In fact, a primary purpose of my position is to remove as much of the emotion from the debate as possible. As such, for example, I have called for the reparations argument to remove the concept of collecting for the equivalent of "pain and suffering" from the debate. Second, there are plenty of historians who argue that there were...
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Re: Reparations: How much and who pays?

EgbertSouse ·
It couldn't hurt to try, MBM. Just tell the IRS you're an oppressed black man in America, deserving of more entitlements. Or you could show some real cojones and do like Egbert: pull up stakes and leave America for good as I did 23 years ago. Thanks to the Foreign Earned Income Credit and filing a joint return with my wife, I'm exempt from paying any tax on the first $140,000 dollars of annual income (I think George W. actually raised it last year). That's why I used my immigrant parents in...
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Re: Why Should We Just "Get Over It"?

MBM ·
The Case Against Reparations Sometimes a bad idea is so pregnant with mischief that it compels our attention. One such idea is now propelling a movement to secure reparations for American slavery. The seeming simplicity of this plea is truly seductive. In skeletal form the argument looks like this: Once upon a time some white people enslaved some black people; the institution of American slavery robbed "the black community" of its inheritance; the long years of servitude produced enduring...
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Re: America's Original Sin

James Wesley Chester ·
the 15th Amendment, which guaranteed blacks the right to vote.---Linda Chavez I don't enjoy being a 'nag.' Notable people keep telling this same lie. I say lie because they are too 'smart' to ignorant of the truth. And they still continue to say what they know is not true. The 15th Amendment DID NOT give African American-Americans the RIGHT to vote. Once again: The 15th Amendment ONLY PROTECTS the right to vote. In fact, the RIGHT to vote is NOT confer by any provision of the Constitution...
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Re: America's Original Sin

Nmaginate ·
I like these unsound suggestions as to What Is BEST. All SINS especially the most grievous have consequences and hence "punishment". Adam & Evil did not escape it. The Law Of The Universe says none of us can. The Laws Of Man are set to prohibit escape from the Payment For One's Sins. The will be a Reckoning of All SINS. Those trying to pass over their Debt Penitence when its in their hands and within their ability to "pay" make their date with Hell. Of that the Bible (and any allusion to...
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Re: Slavery Reparations Aren't a "Free Lunch"

James Wesley Chester ·
The 'free lunch' was eaten by the United States. In fact, the United States is still sitting at the table licking its chops. The lunch was ours. We are simply demanding payment. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: THE TRUTH OF THE HISTORICAL JESUS & THE MYTHICAL CHRIST

shebakoby ·
I will leave the explanation to the end paragraph quote. Good Character is pretty much a universal requirement in the world, because it makes the world run more smoothly in terms of human relations. However this does not address adequately why we have any problems keeping a good character. "Experience of the Divine" is a subjective concept. I am aware of "spirits" being out there, and the nature of these "spirits" has been revealed to me. Those that talk to humans and spread "another...
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Re: Torn From Their Land... During JIM CROW

nicoette ·
They Stole Our Land...Name it and Claim it, Beleive it and Receive it... I am reaching out for HELP !!! First, I would like to thank you for educating the public... Your web page has given me information to knowledge to proceed with reclaiming what is RIGHTFULLY ours. Our Estate has been in our family since December 26, 1888 and has been stolen from us. These particular tracts of land holds near and dear to our hearts, our ancestors are buried within the means of these tracts. TORN FROM THE...
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Re: Urban Leagaue's Report on Black America

EbonyRose ·
Urban League Report Says Black Progress Stagnant or Worsening Date: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 By: Michael H. Cottman Forty years after landmark civil rights legislation was enacted, economic and social progress for black Americans remains stagnant or is worsening, according to a new study released Wednesday by the National Urban League. The annual "State of Black America" report for 2005 analyzed a range of government statistics and concluded the gap in racial disparities between blacks and...
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Re: Louisiana Activists to Protest Bank One Reparations Offer

Michael ·
"Surely, we are to be impressed by $5,000,000. Thank God someone realizes this is an insult to common sense." by James Wesley Chester ....but notice, J.P. Morgan Chase nor Bank One have and/or will volunteer any substantial information or damaging evidence to incriminate themselves...... .....that is to incriminate themselves to the extent of raising the amount in damages for the wrongs of slavery. With respect to "gift in the 5 million being offered", perhaps those who want this pertaining...
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Re: Louisiana Activists to Protest Bank One Reparations Offer

James Wesley Chester ·
That was my point in my first quote when this thread hit the board. They are 'getting ahead of the game' by offering an amount that 'sounds' impressive. To challenge that amount requires quantitative evidence of its inadequacy. That's how the 'game' is played. The next time the demand should be made with a dollar-value attached. That is if the lession is learned. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Let's just talk EVIDENCE - MICHAEL JACKSON!

Michael ·
"*Lashid rolls eyes, ...and yawns* I see that we are not willing to just stick with discussing evidence ...Is it fair to ask if any of y'all actually even follow the trial, court documents, etc.? Yet, you are all so quick to speak on the case and give an instant "verdict"? ...Go back to doing your "investigation" through Access Hollywood! ...And I ALSO see that this "African-American" board is full of non-black posters... "Jacko"? ...A very non-black reference to Mr. Jackson, wouldn't you...
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Re: Let's just talk EVIDENCE - MICHAEL JACKSON!

Michael ·
....If Michael Jackson would have molested a Black child, generally speaking few Black people would have any faith in the courts bringing Michael Jackson to justice, and make no mistake, street justice would have been swift. Media coverage of his death, wake, or funeral would come later. .....either way, the average individual would not have any sympathy for his pedophile hide! Let's see: A. ....Michael Jackson paid out 20 million in hush money in 1993 in response to a claim filed by the...
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Re: Let's just talk EVIDENCE - MICHAEL JACKSON!

Michael ·
Let's see: A. ....Michael Jackson paid out 20 million in hush money in 1993 in response to a claim filed by the legal representatives of a Caucasian child he molested. ...Michael Jackson's present criminal prosecution for child molestation predicament! B. ....Michael Jackson paid out 2 million in "hush bucks" to the plaintiffs of an "Hispanic maid and her son". C. ....No telling how many other incidents exist to where Michael Jackson has given expensive gifts, and/or large sums of money to...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

blaqfist ·
I find it the height of condescension (was that an oxymoron?) when white people "suggest" what black people should do w/ reparations. The defendant makes no demands on what the plaintiff should do with the compensation he has won; in most legal systems (the one used in the US included). The plaintiff can burn the money if he so desired.. But as far as what reparations should include?? Here are my demands. 1. 150 yrs of income tax exempt status. Black people should be excused from any/all...
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Re: Slavery profits are aim of bill

Michael ·
************** SLAVERY REPARATIONS: A MISGUIDED MOVEMENT SLAVERY REPARATIONS: A MISGUIDED MOVEMENT Professor Peter H. Schuck Yale Law School JURIST Guest Columnist Let us stipulate -- because it is manifestly true -- that American slavery was a horrendous crime and a moral abomination. Let us further stipulate that this crime had countless victims and that their descendants still experience adverse effects today, seven generations later. Finally, stipulate that our society subscribes to an...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

Michael ·
SLAVERY REPARATIONS: A MISGUIDED MOVEMENT SLAVERY REPARATIONS: A MISGUIDED MOVEMENT Professor Peter H. Schuck Yale Law School JURIST Guest Columnist Let us stipulate -- because it is manifestly true -- that American slavery was a horrendous crime and a moral abomination. Let us further stipulate that this crime had countless victims and that their descendants still experience adverse effects today, seven generations later. Finally, stipulate that our society subscribes to an ideal of...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

HeruStar ·
Oh, I never saw the BUT coming on this one Complex Cause You've committed this Causal Fallacy already. MBM and others have already pointed out to you the many other arguments for reperation, it matters not that you have a Yale professor committing two logical errors, with the other one being a Straw Man argument. So it's impractical to think that the world's superpower can implement something as easy as reparations. By "serious" effort he meant that Blacks are hardly worth the time. I'm...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

Michael ·
....but the information as shared is going to be used by Caucasians, and the majority of the taxpayers as a means to support their argument against reparations. Caucasians more so, than the Black community have the means to pay for this. As it stands, the average taxpayer will also use the same argument to avoid being responsible for any payment. Furthermore, Black people are but a mere 13 percent of the U.S. population, and those with the means to make a difference to promote this...
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Re: Supporting Black Leaders.

Michael ·
....and the fact that Black people did in fact own slaves, both in the U.S., and in Africa, will make it exceedingly impossible to hold Corporate Caucasian America responsible for the entire payment of reparations for the atrocities of slavery. ....Heck, considering the reality that some of the Black middle-class in foster care providers, social workers, probation officers, and/or other members of the Black community have contributed to the illegal break up of law abiding Black families for...
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Re: Supporting Black Leaders.

Huey ·
Michael, black slaveowners didn't make laws saying that blacks were the lowest of the low and should be held, by law of man and God, in continual, generational lifetime bondage. How can you own someone that's inferior by law, if you're also considered inferior? Plus, white slaveowners were able to enslave that black slaveowner and commandeer his servants.
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Re: Ideal reparations.

Michael ·
....but the information as shared is going to be used by Caucasians, and the majority of the taxpayers as a means to support their argument against reparations. Slim chance exists where the Black community is going to make Caucasians, or any other affluent community within the U.S. pay for the vestibule of slavery. The Black community is the least organized, least politically astute, least affluent of all the communities in the U.S. Caucasians more so, than the Black community have the means...
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Re: Slavery profits are aim of bill

Michael ·
Well...we will see. Won't we? With or without the law, I might point out to you that the winning is in progress. The only remaining question is 'How big?' by Jim Chester ....but the information as shared is going to be used by Caucasians, and the majority of the taxpayers as a means to support their argument against reparations. Slim chance exists where the Black community is going to make Caucasians, or any other affluent community within the U.S. pay for the vestibule of slavery. The Black...
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Re: US Supreme Court Refuses To Revive Tulsa Race Riot Lawsuit

Vox ·
I found the CASE on Findlaw.com. The difference between this case and the Japanese internment reparations payment is simply that in the Japanese case, the US government was willing to issue payment on its own, whereas in the Tulsa case, the city government of Tulsa and the state government of Oklahoma weren't. A court probably wouldn't have forced the US gov't to pay the Japanese victims. The Tulsa riots are not alleged to be the responsibilty of the US government. Before this case was...
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Re: Ideal reparations.

MBM ·
HeruStar - MAJOR props to your analysis here! Of course I am biased, but your dissection of the article is absolutely superb!
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Re: Ideal reparations.

Nmaginate ·
IRON~ You're the one who responded to the NCOBRA note and asked: How is what you quoted any different...? The words INDEPENDENCE and SELF-SUFFICIENCY were explicit and central. Now, you're saying its TOO MILITANT and SEPARATIST? Please.... That too was explicit in the NCOBRA note and what I said to you. NCOBRA: ...to enable the African community to become independent from racist institutions NMAG on Political Base: What will make what you envision [something that's] not circumscribed by or...
 
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