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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

ricardomath ·
Their anscestors are from Japan. I believe that her grandparents (his great grandparents) were the last genetration in their family to speak Japonese. What I find particularly amusing is that my wife and pretty much everybody else often refers to him as "el chino", dispite the fact that "japonés" is a perfectly good spanish word. It's just not much used. I've never quite understood that.
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Rowe ·
I get so very tired of people suggesting that we "do away" with the educational system, offering no recommendations as to how we are to get the masses of Black children to perform academically on par with other children. These people are often the least likely to do anything about the problems they observe in our nation's education system. I understand, fully, people's gripe with the "educational system." I work within this sytem on a daily basis, but we need to grow up and accept the...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

FireFly ·
ok Herustar... I'm not sure if this is agreement, your call, I would agree that SOME art is INFLUENTIAL. Not all art is. Is that close enough ? And defining the influence it has is very slippery ground. Influnece of ... style, substance, colour, by imitation, technique, and to what degree....etc. OK... here's what I've come up with so far... feel free to add, argue, comment. It's by no means definitive, and I'll probably add on to it. Role of the Artist: - to question themselves, society or...
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

Pace Tua ·
Have to agree with you on this one, EP. For the most part, colleges and universities are institutions of conformity. I say this with some insight, having worked at UCSF in administration for eleven years. In general, colleges and universities are a mirror of the values of society. And in this society, the reflection is capitalism and power. For US colleges and universities, government funding, corporate funding, private grants, and alumnae contributions, pretty much spell status quo.
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
No. I assumed nothing. I was clear in qualifying what I said (and feel) by saying: "...many of the very people who make that argument aren't so keen at recognizing or attacking actual material elements..." I was simply stating my position. Not attacking or assuming anything about yours for we have not had that type of discussion. That is not in contention. But those things mention as "Bulls In The China Shop" really don't speak to "tools" that function in a way to institutionalize and...
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Re: Radio Raheem's Personal tribute to Interracial couples

nayo ·
Virtue, My story. I'm a 'cinnamon-milk/chocolatte', and know of what you speak. Ran into that, 'your so pretty, but dark' commentary. My fam hails from Louisiana, and are a mix of almost white to a Wesley Snipes deep chocolate skin tone. The 'redbones' ruled, especially the redbone women. I would, as a child/young girl, talk 'truth' to this'power' and be reprimanded that I was 'hating'. Of course I was'nt, just acknowledging yet another 'ism' in America, and in the African/African American...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Yemaya ·
MBM, how many times have you asked this question?? I know that in the past you've asked and obviously recieved no response. The silence speaks for itself. If someone has a platform, political, ideological or whatsoever to stand on concerning this topic that might remotely consist of a response, I wish that they would speak up! This question has lingered on the board for about a year now and not one response has been given. Just let me step on my soap box for a moment MBM. I think that the...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Yemaya: I just talked with a young guy who is an both an engineer and a "body guard" for many "Hip Hop" stars. He told me details about their lives and how MONEY, HEDONISM and MATERIALISM are strange bed fellows to folks who grew up in the "hood" but now have some "cheddar" in their pockets. Do you think that these HIP HOP STARS are 'CONSERVATIVES' based on your description? Money is no object with them. Many of them blow through a lot of it. The all have "possies" of people who work for...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
Yemaya: Please note - I am not a "conservative". The labels "liberal" and "conservative" are contextual. I prioritize the value of CULTURE in shaping the ideas of the people and go a long way to translate what are "common goals" in their minds into PHYSICAL REPRESENTATIONS. It is FOOLISH for anyone to support of oppose something simply because it is "liberal" or "conservative". I choose to use REAL WORLD EVIDENCE on the impact of various policies. I support policies that produce favorable...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

Nmaginate ·
Then you comments and perspectives are useless here. STFU!!! unless you're going to address the clearly defined CONTEXT: What has political and economic conservatism done for African America? What do black folks have to be excited about, or to support, in [political/economic] conservatives and the Republican Party? FUCK YOUR RHETORIC, Con-Feed... Either speak about the benefits rec'd from Political/Economic Conservatism and/or the Republican Party or STFU!!
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Re: College "Education" Is BS

umbrarchist ·
How many computers were there in the world when W.E.B. Du Bois wrote Souls of Black Folk? Souls of Black Folk was published in 1903. The vacuum tube had not been invented. It would be another 5 years before Henry Ford introduced the Model T. Do you have any idea how much that changed the American way of life? Du Bois was born in 1868. Marx didn't die until Du Bois was 15 years old. People are constantly talking about children being the future but clutter their heads with trivia from the...
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Re: Why Isn't There a White History Month?

ricardomath ·
I was gonna wait 'till the end of the month before reposting this, but what the hell... Back by popular demand... White History Year Resumes WASHINGTON, DC"”With Black History Month over, U.S. citizens are putting aside thoughts of Harriet Tubman and George Washington Carver to resume the traditional observation of White History Year. Above: A stamp honoring European-American aviation pioneer Charles Lindbergh is unveiled as part of White History Year celebrations. White History Year, which...
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Re: Black Neocons And Stockholm Syndrome

Kevin41 ·
Damn EP, I'm just getting back to the groove but i'm laughing already......you hit it on the head...no matter what the topic is they know how to put a black inferiority spin on it......uncle ruckus is truly a pathological negro.....and I love the way McGruder emphasizes his part to remind the self-loathers how they truly come across....nobody even takes uncle ruckus serious because you know he is programmed to think only one way.....along the lines of black inferiority....but you're...
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Re: African immigrants face bias from blacks

Yemaya ·
I would hope that this is not true. I look upon other black people with origins in Africa as my brothers and sisters. I treat them the same way I treat other black people. Now, I must say, I've come across some African-American bias from Africans in other countries, but only in situations where there is a large group of African-Americans in an area. However, I've been in situations in Europe where I've been alone and I spoke with ease to other Africans because they automatically assumed by...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
Sister Rowe.... How are you? I miss the picture in your avatar of the woman in ceremonial dress and makeup... she was beautiful.... Dear Sister.... I used to be a philosohpy major and English major... If I wanted to pick apart his argument.... I could.... But I sensed pain in his question.... a yearining and confusion.... I decided not to intellectually debate him.... but to offer comfort in understanding.... I simply wanted him to know that his experiences have reasons.... and there are...
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Re: David Irving Arrested For 'Denying Holocaust'

Black Viking ·
Denial runs rampant thoughout humanity. It's silly to outlaw a person's God given right to self delusion. Who care's what the man says or believes when the facts speak differently. Let him provide proof or just ignore him. If he has no proof, how can he be a threat? Just because someone says the sky is green doesn't make it so.
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Re: You Negroes Quit Whining, look how Oprah lives...which proves everything is fine

Black Viking ·
I haven't read the whole thing yet. I got stuck right here. Umm... excuse me, Mr. Elder. But, WTF!!! Of course MLK acomplished something. It's the only reason you have anything today!
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Re: You Negroes Quit Whining, look how Oprah lives...which proves everything is fine

Nmaginate ·
It's the same rhetoric ignorant Black and White people (willed or innocently ignorant) use to try to deal with the Cognitive Dissonance or whatever the hell their malfunction is. Ummm... Excuse me Mr. Elders, but MLK never stopped "complaining about the poor conditions under which minorities lived." He's like the clueless and rationalizing Whites who didn't realize Dr. King had these types of things to say at those "inconvenient" and "impolite" moments: Elder needs to study King and give a...
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Re: Are Sports & Music the Only Options for Black Children?

Lamp ·
good points.. I think about this a good amount as well. I speak to black Youth a good amount and run a Computer Learning Program for 5 months for these same Youth. I try and emphasize that there are other fields available to us other than these long shot type careers such as sports\entertainment.. I go as so far to tell the students how much I make, etc so that they can understand. I think the key is that our Youth have to be patient.. They want that big paycheck without waiting..
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

thayfen ·
Detroit1 meant SOME women, and because I live in the area I can attest to what happens on the singles scene on Friday and Saturday nights. This has been going on for well over twenty years. This issue with people (In Detroit, it is mostly women) who testify to holding one standard, but somehow magically end up with an individual who is the exact opposite; as most men know that SOME brothers are great, and others are truly hazardous. There are many who are in strong, loving, real...
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Re: Feminism vs. Womanism

kresge ·
The wiki piece really should be treated as a stub because it gives a rather poor understanding of womanism as it relates to feminism, particularly in the context of Walker's text. For Walker, womanism includes feminism. She says that womanism is to feminism as purple is to lavender. Purple is the larger category to which lavender belongs. The piece also does not address the argument put forth by Patricia Hill Collins in Black Feminist Thought: Knowledge, Consciousness, and the Politics of...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

nayo ·
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70259-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 Actor Tries to Trademark 'N' Word By Rogers Cadenhead | Also by this reporter 02:00 AM Feb, 23, 2006 EST The actor Damon Wayans has been engaged in a 14-month fight to trademark the term "Nigga" for a clothing line and retail store, a search of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's online database reveals. Wayans wants to dress customers in 14 kinds of attire from tops to bottoms, and use the controversial mark on "clothing,...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Faheem ·
Let's talk about it while it is happening and while it is fresh on our mind. I am really enjoying this economic panel, we have some brilliant folk up there, although the arguing about the Black church was a bit much, I believe the points being made were on point. So much information has been offered and so many good questions have been asked. a good question about gentrification was raised and that is, is it really gentrification when we are the gentrifiers, pushing our poor family members...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Yemaya ·
EbonyRose, now that you've brought this up, it did have more participants than the one in Atlanta. Unfortunately for the people who had to speak after Min. Farrakhan, it did seem like the audience and the spirit left after he did. What I didn't like was that they were, except Harry Belafonte, disagreeing with him when he wasn't there to defend himself. Another thing that I did like was the fact that he did bring up the spiritual side of the issue, when the two other ministers on the panel...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

EbonyRose ·
Yes, Yemaya, I thinking today how future forums might go if he were to invite less of the "core group" of panelists that are there ever year. I hope he takes that last young man's advice and let's the young Blood go first next year. That's a discussion that definitely needed to be expanded. But, there are the "usuals" that have headlined the show since the beginning pretty much. And I think Minister Farrakhan was a little "under the weather" today! As much as I love to hear him speak, I...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Khalliqa ·
Just a note.... It's Savior's Day in Chicago..... A BIG Holiday for those in the NOI.... Peace, Virtue
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
I was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles, in the town of Watts. In regards to the Black/Mestizo situation, I've noticed a few things: When Mestizos are a very small minority in a predominantly Black area, no one pays them any mind. In fact, many of the middle aged and older Black women will often be very friendly, and be a little sympathetic b/c the Mestizos (in this phase) are usually very poor, have many children, and don't speak English. This is my experience, so I don't want to...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

kresge ·
I don't have much to add to what ER has said. My wife and I were there for the last two sessions. I definitely think that the the "younger" folk did get the shaft with respect to time. Part of the problem was not only the amount of time taken up by the second group, but the delay in getting right to the panels after lunch, althought I think that it was important to have the survivors or "acheivers" of Hurricane Katrina share their stories as a frame for the discussion. With respect to...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Nmaginate ·
Well, I have to credit Tavis Smiley for both taking this Convenant "Movement" through the Black Church, given its historic role in our Community, while at the same time supporting a Black Institution. Complaints about the size of the venue, as they are, should take that into account. He could easily generate [extra] revenue for some "White" hotel by having the panels in a hotel ballroom or some "White" auditorium. I think the disrespect was mutual. Farrkhan not only "broke from the script"...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Faheem ·
Empty Purnata, I would agree with you if the attitude of "I am an American" equaled racism. This attitude you speak about is not racist at all although it is jingoistic and rooted in an attempt by some Black folk to ensure they and their children are able to achive economic stability in this nation. The problem is they are focusing their energy at the wrong target, the target isn't the mexican man and woman it is those who seek to exploit them at our expense is the problem.
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
Faheem, I understand what you mean about how being angry at the illegals won't actually solve the poblem of the American corporations who keep hiring them. My anger isn't directed at their success or even their being here so much as the attitudes and behaviors they exhibit while here. Realistically, if I lived in a country full of poverty and corruption, and I had an opportunity to sneak into another country where I'd have a better standard of living and be able to send money home to support...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Faheem ·
Seeing other ethnic groups as our friend is not and should not be limited to them simply not being white. We can not continue to use our intellectual prowess and energies defending those who don't defend us when faced with stereotypes and lies about us. Mexican men and women are not trying to defuse, refute or speak truth to the lie that Black folk are lazy and that they work harder than us, in fact the President of Mexico suggested the same thing. While Mexican men and women are not our...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Empty Purnata ·
The thing is though, the racism isn't one way, there is also Black racism against non-Black non-Whites. Yes, I know there are non-Whites out there that are very racist to Blacks (and I'm not saying that ALL of them are our friends, you misunderstand me), but let's be real: we're not exactly saints either. It's not like we were never racist towards them, or that we exactly welcomed them all the time when they first came into this country. Instead of nit-picking over who is more racist or who...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
My choice or words were insufficient to convey my thoughts. "Adapt" would probably be more accurate than "assimilate". Am I suggesting they start calling themselves Bob and Susy, dye their hair blonde, and leave all of their cultural trapping behind? Of course not. However, it is considered normal decency to actually learn the language of your host country, and respect the values and tradition of said country. There is a steadfast refusal of a significant portion of the Mestizo population to...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

James Wesley Chester ·
Yemaya: I have always liked your signature. It certainly is true. Getting out of that 'prison' is proving to be the greatest bondage of our history. I see our loss of who we are. the loss of our identity, as the final bondage of that peculiar institution. kresge; I also hope we can rid ourselves of this perception that we are the savior of our oppressor, or the 'redemption of the nation'. Because this rhetoric is embedded in our religions, it extraction is going to be very difficult. A kind...
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Re: People Don't Throw This In Jews Face...

James Wesley Chester ·
At first, I thought the title of the thread was an admonishment, which I thought was curious. After reading your followup comment, it is clear it is a statement of fact. And your right, it isn't thrown up in their face. I think it is a part of the 'Grand Agreement'. Somethings just are not 'done in polite society'...so to speak. The implied question of your thread's title points at treatment we give 'collaborators' in African American culture. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

Faheem ·
UppityNegress, I will first answer your question as to rather or not you should learn the language of the country you migrate to? If one is able to migrate to a country and get all of his or her needs met without having to learn the language of the country, what motivation is there to learn the language? Which means if you entered Mexico and found yourself living in an English speaking enclave, with stores, school and services offered to you in English than I say you do not need to learn the...
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Re: Khalil Gibran

Khalliqa ·
And another one of my FAVORITES!!!! Ummmm..... My favorite quote from this poem is in bold.... So much so... I even put the quote as an introduction on my cell phone... I want to get a T-Shirt printed with the quote ..... I just might do that for the summer Peace, Virtue On Reason & Passion And the priestess spoke again and said: "Speak to us of Reason and Passion." And he answered saying: Your soul is oftentimes a battlefield, upon which your reason and your judgment wage war against...
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Re: The Left Hand of God

HonestBrother ·
What the hell do you call prayer in school? or demanding "equal time" for Creationism in science classes but politicizing religion???? Speaking as a teacher, people have ALWAYS been free to pray in the classroom. What's not going to happen is me leading them. I don't see why I should try overly hard to speak as an adult to mental children... The political right's brand of religion is poisonous and it needs to be neutralized.
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

UppityNegress ·
Yes, part of my problem is with people who make such concessions--and we as Blacks are those people! We make the concession every time we quietly pull our children from schools that turned from English language to Spanish overnight, instead of demanding that our children be given adequate education in the dominate language of the country. We make a concession every time we leave a neighborhood that is quickly deteriorating in cleanliness, value, and safety instead of calling the proper...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Nmaginate ·
And that type of Cornell West complete with his statement that he has to "go with Martin" would make him close to a Manning Marable it would seem. That would be one public intellectual conspiculously absent from Tavis' panels. Especially considering how Marable is no stranger to CSPAN or such symposiums. But, of course, I'll have to defer to you about West's fall... And his protege, Glaude, seemed to obsessed with his own rhetoric. I mean, at least Michael Dyson does it egotistically in a...
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Kai ·
You must object to the above since you reject "control". Is there a way to protect and serve outside of control? Is there? I am a Fruit Of Islam serving in the Nation Of Islam. I cannot speak for other faiths, but I am certain that the NOI's doctrine is premised upon service, protection, and unity, among other things. What does Master Fard Muhammad have to do with this? I agree. Fortunately, the NOI makes no such claims. Kai
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

HonestBrother ·
Yes. NOI may be premised on service, protection, and unity AMONG OTHER IDEAS. Are you going to tell me that NO other ideas are involved? And as for Fard Muhammad: Can't you friggin read??? . One of the ideas in addition to service, protection, and unity is that this man is God. And that's from the official NOI website.
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Re: Cognitive dissonance and the black woman

Khalliqa ·
No it wasnt..... It was a very simple response....... HB generalized.... I offered not an either or alternative.... just an alternative.... Just my opinion..... but perhaps you're reading way too much into what you think are my intentions....... If someone says all apples are green.... and I say well there's always the red ones.... that's not a hard fast either or situation..... just an option..... there should be no implied cut off.... unless you make it so..... one may not know that there...
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Re: State of Black America hosted by Tavis on CSPAN now..

Yemaya ·
Here's not so much an opposing view, but a different view on how the symposium went. I enjoyed the symposium for the fact that it even exists, but I can understand where the author of this article is coming from. Although we love our educated black folks and they have great ideas, the masses want some action. Why is Tavis Smiling? And Why are we watching? Every year, radio/tv commentator Tavis Smiley holds a forum that brings together "the best and the brightest" African-Americans from...
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Re: You can't help who you love

HonestBrother ·
Martin Luther King advocated acts contrary to society in the form of Civil Disobedience... Is there something wrong with an act simply because most people disapprove? Are these acts the same as acts contary to nature? Or those contary to life?
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Re: You can't help who you love

HonestBrother ·
So you've heard EVERY same sex couple declare that they cannot help who they love??... Also, have you also gone around asking heterosexual couples why they love who they do thus similarly putting them on the defensive? The taboo against first cousins varies across even human societies... I AM practicing honesty and integrity. You may question the correctness of my analysis but do not question my integrity... Perhaps, I should speak more slowly so that you understand me? PS: In this last...
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Re: CARNIVAL IS THE ANCIENT 'AFRICAN-KHEMET NEW YEAR"

Melesi ·
oshun, Please read what I wrote. I did not say that Greece got nothing from Egypt. Of course it did. The Greeks even said so, and that is still in the history of Greece. I first read that a long time ago in one of those huge Time-Life coffee-table picture books of Greece. So please do not say that whites "edit out" that information to keep it from everybody. I learned it from whites themselves. Besides, that's not my point. My point is twofold: 1. The Greeks were good enough thinkers to have...
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Re: People of Color' are All One? Latino Inmates in L.A. Don't Think So

EbonyRose ·
Racial Violence Behind Bars - Time For Straight Talk Between the Black and Latino Communities By Anthony Asadullah Samad The violence that has taken place between Black and Latino inmates in the Los Angeles (and now Riverside and San Bernadino) County Jails has caused both the black and Latino communities to take inventory of their relationship. Future relations will require candor, honesty and some historical reflection that has allowed them to peacefully co-exist for 500 years. Black...
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Re: I'm In Love With A Stripper?

HeruStar ·
T-Pain Lyrics I'm N Luv (Wit A Stripper) Lyrics (feat. Mike Jones) [Intro] [Verse 1] Got the body of a goddess Got the body of a goddess [Verse 2 (T-Pain)] Out of all the girls she be the hottest Like n the way she break it down I see u girl Spinnin wide And She lookin at me Right in my eyes Yea She got my attention Yea yea yea Did I forget to mention I Need to get her over to my crib and do that night thang Cause I'm N Luv Wit a Stripper [Verse 3 (Mike Jones)] She's every man's dream...
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