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Re: Aborigines target sudanese refugees

FireFly ·
thanks for this... I haven't been reading newspapers the past week so it's news to me. One thing though, Toowoomba is in Queensland and Balga is in Western Australia. If you look at a map of Australia you'll see we are a h-u-g-e continent and these places are very far apart. And very different. On a positive note, most people feel this way: "Ms Maasakker said the Sudanese had added another dimension to Toowoomba, and made the town more cosmopolitan." and also this way... "Mr Farrell said the...
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Re: Black Middle Class vs. American Middle Class

Constructive Feedback (Guest) ·
MBM: I am really flattered at the being the basis for so many of your posts. I figured that by now you could at least represent my position more correctly. Founding Premise: Some people reside inside of a system that organizes resources and creates wealth. Some people reside outside of such a system. The challenge is to CREATE a system that generates wealth and a high standard of living for the people that are of interest to you balancing this demand with other values that are important to...
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Re: Conservatives and Liberals: Why We Believe What We Believe

Black Viking ·
This is the part that confuses me about America. Realistically people should be voting for their own economic interests. But there are so many more "have-nots" than there are "haves" that I don't understand how conservatives get a foot hold at all. The only explaination I can find is ideological manipulation. The vast majority of "haves" are conservative for the reasons you stated, but they have some how convinced a huge number of "have-nots" that they have something worth preserving as...
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Re: Vouchers ???

DogBreath ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sweetwuzzy: After reading Sowell's article, I clicked on his link to the Rose and Milton Friedman website. What is everyones position on vochers? Why are you for or against it ? Please do not resort to petty attacks such as "sell out," "Kneegrow," or Uncle tom !!" I really want to know how everyone feels about this?? I do not know if you saw this, but John Stossel did a show called "Dumb in america." I was a little annoyed how the show did not present both sides...
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Rowe ·
I agree. Hey, Sister Texas, why don't you come over to the Sistas Spot . I can better protect you over there. This forum is really for vicious discussion vultures. If you don't tread carefully, you will be eaten, dead or alive. A lot of men hang out here. So you know what that's about (Hint, hint: Ego, testostorone, addicted to being right). Come hang with the girls, we are a lot less ego driven. We can talk about beauty, fashion, and men problems.
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

HonestBrother ·
Them's fightin' words
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Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?

Black Viking ·
Re: MBM: WHERE'S THE UNIFICATION?
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Re: I finally found the Black women's reply to the "Where is the love?'" from Tampa

Black Viking ·
Frenchy, I think your the one who's missing it. The double stadard exists because men and women have different stadards. It's perfectly O.K. for men to want women that look like Halle Barry. It's perfectly O.K. for women to want men who look like Denzel Wahington. But, if that's what you want, then that's what you get. No complaining about personality issues that were not taken into considration at the outset. The issue being driven into the dirt here is "What are you looking for?" Are you...
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Re: Appreciating Black Beauty

bigddouble ·
To infer these discussions have been driven primarily by the color complex is questionable (you didn't ask us why we thought various women were attractive). However, if you are sincere in your concern, please attach a link to Eye Candy for Sandye as well.
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Re: Should God?

Black Viking ·
As an anti-fundamentalist, I'll do my best to answer only from my own spiritual perspective. "Should" is an interesting choice of words. God can and does adapt to any or all situations as God chooses, including modernism. Determining whether God should or should not do this is, frankly, putting God in a box. To ask ourselves what God should be doing is to suggest that we might know better than God. This is normal in our society though. We've been questioning God for a long time now. However,...
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Re: Should God?

kresge ·
There are numerous assumptions here that I think should be challenged. 1. There appears to be an assumption here that the past, prior, ancient, or archaic practices, rituals, and writings are truer, more accurate reflections of God. 2. There appears to be an assumption that God or the Divine is immutable or unchanging. In order for me to address this particular question, I would need to have some sense of why these assumptions are not only being held, but are being privileged, because I do...
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Re: Should God?

HonestBrother ·
I second the motion
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Re: Should God?

Melesi ·
Heru, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have a question for the anti-fundamentalists. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What is an "anti-fundamentalist"? A non-fundamentalist? I'm not sure why you would exclude fundamentalists from answering your question. While I disagree with them, there are some thoughtful fundamentlists. Not many, probably, but engaging, affable, personable, thoughtful (if not deep) fundies. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Should God accomodate us? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

MBM ·
The argument is completely nonsensical from a legal perspective. It seems more driven by fear, than by logic or legal precedent. That said, I'm curious about how people evaluate the trade-off.
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Re: Reparations v. Eliminating Race Specific Claims

Nmaginate ·
One thing to note, though, is how markedly different African-Americans are regarded when compared to Jews and Japanese-Americans. Though made out of fear or other such emotions, they are hardly misplaced. There is plenty of reasons to have those "fears"/emotions. They just don't make logical sense because, legally, there really is no reason to believe that it would go down that way (i.e. written in statutes), regardless of animosity Whites, even White legislators, etc. may hold. In even...
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Re: 7 Police killed as they root out coca in Colombian park

Pace Tua ·
Columbia is now the second largest recipient of U.S. Military "Aid", after Iraq, as if destroying a country is somehow "aid". In 1997 US Military "Aid" to Columbia was $50 million. Two years later it was $290 million and has been growing proportionally ever since. Using the war on drugs as a pretext, the U.S. has helped destroy the homes and farms of thousands of families in Columbia. Each year the US supported Columbian government and its paramilitary groups kill thousands of people and...
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Re: 7 Police killed as they root out coca in Colombian park

ricardomath ·
From the Los Angeles Times Afro-Colombians Driven Off Land in Cocaine War By Chris Kraul Times Staff Writer January 4, 2006 PEREIRA, Colombia "” Armando Garces was reluctant to leave his mountain village even after right-wing militia members had gone door to door telling residents they had 48 hours to evacuate, or else. He didn't like being ordered to abandon the only home he had ever known. Then a daylong gun battle erupted between the paramilitary fighters and leftist guerrillas over...
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Re: Should God?

umbrarchist ·
Your question presumes the ancient practices and interpretations were correct. I don't see modern Christians sacrificing animals. I don't hear anyone complaining about that? umbra
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Re: Changing 'black' studies for the times

James Wesley Chester ·
Me too. I am truly concerned that the program intended to inform on and advance African America and the needs of African American-Americans is being, will be, subverted into a politically-driven propoganda-base turning the minds of our youth away from their heritage to augment that political agenda. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Changing 'black' studies for the times

James Wesley Chester ·
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Re: Should God?

kresge ·
Are these questions any less rhetorical or elitist than the questions that have been tendered to you?
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Re: Changing 'black' studies for the times

James Wesley Chester ·
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Noah The African ·
Toussaint. What you fail to consider is that everything is relative. Lets say that an area has a million residents and normative levels of population growth. Lets now say that there is little job growth, despite a growth in population. The net effect of that is that the economic health of the region is deteriorating, despite not losing any jobs, but because they are not gaining any jobs. This is why despite job growth under the Bush administration, his tenure is considered a poor performance...
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Re: The Spiritual Problem With Modernist Art

Melesi ·
Herustar, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My art is about the vulnerability of individuals and how they react to the struggle. How do I cope in a digressive society that? The masses have given me the cold shoulder, because I don't conform to this unneccessary struggle, and surcome to an unneccessary fate of being stoned to death. I am stoned because the majority says we can't judge between right and wrong, my right is their wrong simply because morality IS oppressive <--which I don't dispute.
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
JACO! The whole point here is that YOU GETS NOWHERE WITH YOUR FAULTY LOGIC, idiotic Circular Reasoning and Anal ABSTRACTIONS! First, foremost and ALWAYS... THE TEACHER'S INTENT IS IRRELEVANT! INTENT defines nor determines NOTHING! INTENT is not the End All, Be All of anything. As the saying goes, The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions. The Teacher's INTENT is IRRELEVANT because: Put simply... whatever the two parties involved in conversation perceive the meaning of a word to be,...
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Re: Teacher suspended for ten days, after calling student Nigga!

Nmaginate ·
Ummmm.... That was an answer to a different question. And the question was NEVER about you "personally." See!? You faked like you answered THE SECOND ONE. HOW WOULD...? HOW ARE...? = Different questions. And, again, NEITHER asked about you "personally." But, thanks... Now it's all clear that all your talk about the thing with the teacher being "JUST AS RACIST" and it being "BIGOTRY" is/was nothing but BULLSHIT!! I read all of that. And all of that is IRRELEVANT! You're still speaking about...
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Re: New Black Conservative Website

Pace Tua ·
Toussaint, a few of your assumptions are flawed. For one, the assumption that free-market economies are free. This may be more or less true, but for us it's getting less and less true with each passing year. Government de-regulation, government interference, corporate collusion and monopolistic practices are limiting that free-market more and more over time. The result is less choice, not more. Good cases in point are the lack of enforcement of anti-trust laws that are on the books and the...
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Re: Conservatism and African America

MBM ·
OK - since you asked! Conservatives and Liberals
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Re: The Left Hand of God

Black Viking ·
In general I agree with what this guy is saying, except for this part. The Right doesn't provide these things. It particularly doesn't call for a life that is driven by a higher purpose than money.
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Re: The Left Hand of God

kresge ·
The reference is specifically to the Religious Right and thus I think that it has some merit. I think that this characterization is consistent with the lived experience of the average conservative or evangelical Christian. This is not synonymous with the position of the corporate and neo-conservative interests on the Right.
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Re: Gunmen attack Nigeria oil complex

Texas Star ·
Bodies burned in open after Nigeria riots kill 146 By George Esiri 2 hours, 2 minutes ago ONITSHA, Nigeria (Reuters) - Christian youths burned the corpses of Muslims on Thursday on the streets of Onitsha in southeastern Nigeria, the city worst hit by religious riots that have killed at least 146 people across the country in five days. ADVERTISEMENT Christian mobs, seeking revenge for the killings of Christians in the north, attacked Muslims with machetes, set fire to them, destroyed their...
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Re: ... Of Burning Houses & Pipe Dreams

MBM ·
I think Belafonte misunderstood the point that Farrakhan was making about this. I think Belafonte thought Farrakhan was saying we should give up on America and stop voting or move out or some such consequence. Perhaps "Mr. B." felt Farrakhan was inferring some of the more "dramatic" courses of action that the Nation has supported in the past - armed insurrection, etc. Who knows? I think the minister meant that, as it is constructed now, our government and society are not going to be things...
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Re: Tsotsi

FireFly ·
So now it's a film as well...Cool! You might be interested in this review of the Tsotsi , the book written by Anthol Fugard , I read 2 days ago. I don't think reading this appraisal of the book story line will necessarily ruin the film by 'spelling it out' - in fact I think it makes it even more spell-binding. Review by Malcolm Knox, the Herald's literary editor. Tsotsi South African Athol Fugard, now 73, has always regarded himself as a dramatist rather than a novelist and it was due to his...
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Re: Conjecture.....

kresge ·
Faheem, Excellent post. umbrarchist Unfortunately, you are also on point with your observation. There was a story on CNN and the NY Times this week about the debate team at Liberty University, Jerry Falwell's university. Evidently, they have a huge debate program that has a national reputation. Most of these students are also looking to go to law school, which they also have a Liberty. Basically, this is their strategy for winning the so-called culture war. They are unabashedly ideologically...
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Re: License to Drink?

Frenchy ·
A couple of things: 1 - That's a big assumption that these people are all alcoholics. I'm not an alcoholic and I've certainyl driven at least twice under the influence. I very well could've had 2 or 3 DUIs. 2 - Are you running a one-man AA program or addressing drunk driving? Once again, the problem is the driving, not the drinking. Even if they are alcoholics, it is not YOUR place (and certainly not the government's place) to get into people's lives and decide you are going to make them...
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Re: Black Like GOP

urbansun ·
Liberalism is paternalistic and racist, and conservatism is stagnant and impractical, pick your poison. Liberal paternalism as represented by the Democratic party: 1) Seeks to erode our African Moral fiber by forcing us to party with individuals who represent moral positions abhorrent to us as Africans. It makes us passively accept post-modernism & relativism, and tells us to be effective we have to be aligned with other 'agenda's' that in many cases are polar opposites of our...
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

Shango67 ·
In a capitalist society, the only way to get our money straight is to move from consumer to producer. The movement does not address this issue. In fact, it is a monetary issue and not a fiscal one. It does not make any sense to put MORE money into the hands of people who are already consumer driven and motivated.
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

HonestBrother ·
IMO, the money is there... what's lacking is the will...the vision... We don't necessarily need a massive infusion of capital. We need to start making better use of our own human and material resources.
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Re: Jack and Jill of America, Inc.

Shango67 ·
This is an interesting question and it got me to thinking that Jack and Jill is just like the divine 9... exclusive, status driven, and color struck. And the color caste system among Africans in amerikkka have never benefited dark people. As a dark man, I may have had the opportunity to date sistas who prefer a 100 percent Nubian warrior that is coco rich, sun soaked, and smooth walking. But being dark doesn't get me access to employment or power.
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Re: Where should Reparations funds come from?

alonzo ·
This surely won't happen in the next year or two so why not make what you're saying part of the movement. We can't be "all or nothing". We can move forward on reparation while at the same time educating and preparing people to move from consumer to producer. It's a tough job I know but we have to do it.
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Re: Bush: Won't rule out nuclear strike

James Wesley Chester ·
Bush is a religion-driven, vendetta-seeking, ass. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Bush: Won't rule out nuclear strike

Fine ·
...minus the 'hole' -- since that orifice does in fact serve a useful purpose..
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Re: Pan Africanism 2006

urbansun ·
Implicit in your argument (which I do understand) is that the synergy between two seperate groups, regardless of what you look like in the mirror, will be greater than the focus of one people group on itself. As you are well aware of Africa has never had a homogenous culture even amongst the indigenous tribes and nations in its history. So by basis of history, how do you create a pan-African movement large enough to erode our natural territorialism and nationalism not just within Africa but...
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Re: Bush: Won't rule out nuclear strike

Kweli4Real ·
This guy reminds me of the kid that gets punked daily, who grows up believing that there is no alternative to problem solving than trying to kill his opponent.
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Re: The Crisis of African American Motherhood?

Girl Friday ·
just skimmed this thread - and this issue can be very frustrating to process completely. But all i know is that the only people we can control is our individual selves. And responsible individual choices are the only thing that can strengthen a community as a whole. Speaking as a woman - one step that we can take is choosing very carefully what men we let into our lives and the circumstances under which we do so. Taking initiative in creating high standards for dating and sexual interaction...
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Re: society and the black man

Vox ·
I'm sorry I'm late on this thread, I haven't been on the site much lately. This is an important topic, and I co-sign with what everyone basically has said. However, I have a pretty unique and different life history. There are many aspects of who I am that differ from the standard "black mold" that so many people, including black people, seem to promote and accept. Those aspects of my being that differ from the mold have defined my struggles in life far more than those aspects that I have in...
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Re: True or False: Diversity is our Strength.

sergeant ·
didn't realize you were so homo-phobic mbm:-) Well I seriously doubt that the last time you heard the slogan "diversity is strength" that the speaker was referring to something as mundane and commonplace as the basic heterosexual union between a man and a woman. But to be polite, I'll address this latest attempt. In reality, the union of a man and a woman of roughly the same age for procreation or marriage in a heterosexual relationship is anything but diverse, it is the commonplace union,...
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Re: Something of a Revelation

Melesi ·
Kweli, I would agree with you if SD's argument were reasoned and logical, open to fact and honest with the truth, but it isn't. This is the hallmark of a hatred-driven reaction. He doesn't listen, he will not allow others even the right to bear a name that he has defined otherwise. HE takes a name--Christian--and gives it only the definition that he despises, and then despises all Christians because of it, refusing to acknowledge that there are Christians who actually do the kinds of things...
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Re: Michael Jackson: Pedophile?

Lofton (Guest) ·
Well said Solomonic, I can't call it. Normally I'm the first person to say you're innocent until proven guilty. In this case, you have a man who paid out millions to make the whole thing go away. That money would have been better spent paying lawyers and having his day in court. To me, if you have nothing to hide you go to court and stand up for yourself. If for nothing else, it stymies the ambitions of future extortionists. by Solomonic "Peripheral issue: Funny how we blacks vehemently...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

Faheem ·
It is interesting reading over all the responses to this article. Many of you have offered rebuttals to the phenomenon written about in this article as if this phenomenon is not real as observed by the writer and many other Black men and women. This article does not negate any of what has been said, nor does any of what has been said negate this article. As I said prior to posting this article; there is a shared responsibility in the breakdown of the Black male and female (black family)...
 
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