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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Melesi ·
nikcara, You have more than one point in your post. I will try to address them, but I hope you can forgive me if I miss one or two. Do we have differing definitions of "Christian"? What is a Christian to you? Yes, Christians do differ on issues, but they differ usually because they've started from different points of view. They have different conclusions about the world to begin with, thus they have certain differences in their worldviews, which is part of the point that I made originally.
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Nmaginate ·
Well, I just up the STICKER SHOCK ante. Horowitz & Co. want to attach value to the lives of those soldiers who, in his estimation, fought against Slavery... value for the lives lost in an effort to eradicate Slavery... Well, let's count every Black soldier and every enslaved or "free" African/African-American who lost their lives during Slavery. We can even set up a calculus to estimate those who resisted Slavery, actively, openly or passively. Now, let me see the Calculators!! Let's...
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Re: What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Black Viking ·
Christ, where do I start... Horsesh*t. There were two major contributing factors to the end of slavery and neither one had anything to do with the good graces of the slave holders. First, at the end of the 100 years war between England and France, both nations abolished slavery as a part of the treaty. They did this, presumably, because the economic advantage of slavery would have undone their stalemate if only one of them had it. But it became threatening for America to be the only Atlantic...
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Re: Law, Morality, and Christians

Nikcara ·
Melesi, sorry I did not get back to this sooner, what can I say, I was on trial and got distracted. Suffice it to say, I cannot stand next to Dick Cheney [whatever the spelling is] because he is a racist that calls himself a Christian like Bush and I cannot agree with what they have done in the name of Jesus or my God. The God that I pray to clearly is not whom they pray to yet we both use the term Christian.
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Re: One People/One Destiny

James Wesley Chester ·
Amen to that. It is taking time for us to see each other without the veil draped over us by European oppression. We have looked at each through that veil for centuries. I am only this year learning about African Canadians even knowing that many African Americans reached Canada by way of the Underground Railroad. And many, many others from African nations by traditional methods of immigration. I only this year learned the Province of British Columbia was founded by a man of African, in fact,...
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

Norland ·
The joke's on us. We think slavery's over; that where prison comes into play. It's hard for African females in America to maintain their sanity while their men are INSANE over European women. They've been separated from their penises, hung from trees, burned on railroad tracks, flung in rivers and NEVER GET THE MESSAGE. You see, that's INSANITY. They think she's a TROPHY; we know she's a TRAP. Consequently, their sexual years are spent in cages, performing slave labor at 12 cents per year.
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Re: WHY ARE BLACK WOMEN SCARING OFF BLACK MEN?

thelawofMAAT ·
norland, i will address your post in a little bit..I want to give you an adiquate response because there are a few things in your post that i disagree with. peace
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Re: Boycott Cold Mountain

EbonyRose ·
This story was on the TIME website ... I thought it would be interesting for this thread! Into The Breach Cold Mountain misses the real story of a big battle. A new tour fills the gap By LAUREN SHEPHERD The sound of exploding gunpowder no longer roars across the grassy ravine nestled in Petersburg National Battlefield Park in central Virginia. But to hear park historian Jimmy Blakenship talk about the battle that took place there 140 years ago, you have to wonder whether he can still hear...
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Re: The Value of Suffering

Melesi ·
Yssys, Well, that depends. What does it really matter that a statement or concept is "old"? Don't we exalt some very old things, calling them "tradition" or "time honored"? How can some things being old be a good while other things being old is a bad? From your response I would guess that it really isn't the age of the concept that you find objectionable, but your perception that it is like the concepts (if they really existed) that kept us enslaved or submissive for all those years. I say...
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Re: $5 Million Settlement Ends Case of Tainted Texas Sting

sunnubian ·
"There is ZERO evidence to suggest this happens at all frequently, lets not get your skirt in a bunch over this story. That 96 year old woman KNOWS whose drugs they were, but won't cooperate with law enforcement. Thats NOTHING like this story here." ______________________________________ Well Mississippi Delta, I don't know what world you live in, but this sort of thing DOES happen very often. Just because you it hasn't happened to you, does not mean that it does not happen. I personally...
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Re: Your views on capital punishment

EbonyRose ·
You know, on further thought, MBM, let me try to sum up my perspective on this debate. On the issue of value of life, yes, I do place a higher value of one life over another. For example, let's compare you to a confessed serial killer they caught here in TX a while back. I would unashamedly value your life over his. Why? Because you are a husband, a father, and actively work for the betterment of your family, your community and your people, among other things. That serial killer confessed to...
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Re: I freed hundreds...

Nmaginate ·
AUDIO, I must have missed it but I think you Harriet quote is even more relevant to MBM's REVOLUTION 2005 thread. IMO, Harriet's UNDERGROUND is an example of the Revolutionary Ethic. The Conviction and Faith in those times when they had many more reasons to disbelieve or to question the likely success of that mission only further highlight our issues today. (And I'm talking about Advanced Negro Syndrome Issues.) It is obvious Faith and Conviction, all of which are based on belief in self and...
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Re: Slavery profits are aim of bill

Michael ·
"The bill also comes against the backdrop of a lawsuit filed in federal court in New York in 2002 on behalf of 35 million blacks. The lawsuit asks for billions in reparations from the bank FleetBoston (which is now owned by Bank of America), the insurance company Aetna and railroad company CSX for money that it alleges their corporate predecessors made in the slave trade." "Involvement in slavery is difficult to track through human - or corporate - generations, Hood said. "Going back and...
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Re: SACRIFICE

James Wesley Chester ·
I echo that amen. But that is what religion is/does. It is in the eyes of the beholder, and therefore is more than 'just' conversation. I don't think that is bad. In fact, I think it is good. It doesn't prevent other conversation. The sacrifice scenario I often use is the 'Perils of Pauline' episode where your mother is tied to a railroad track with a locomotive bearing down on her, and you her only hope for survival. Hope long do you fight those ropes? Do ever leave? There is no factor of...
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Re: Was Emmit Till Actually Murdered At the End of WWII?

Michael ·
You wouldn't know anyway, ricardomath. It was brought to my attention by reputable sources that Emmit Till was murdered by Caucasians at age fourteen, in either 1945 or 1946. These individuals stated they were protesting his death, with a number of other individuals right after WWII. This would not be illogical considering the madness that went on during the "Jim Crowe" years, to exhonerate any Caucasian for any crime perpetrated against Black people, no matter how severe the criminal act.
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Re: Was Emmit Till Actually Murdered At the End of WWII?

ricardomath ·
Lofton, this is even more bizarre than your "illegal immigrants Merv Dymally and Shirley Chisolm" story. Let's just suppose, for thesake of the arguement, that the government were able to cover up the murder in 1945 or 1946, and that that coverup was successful for a decade. Why open a whole new can of worms in 1955 by making up a story of a murder in that year? Why not simply leave well enough alone? Why jepardise a decade long successful coverup? I swear, Lofton. I didn't think it...
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Re: Wachovia Acknowledges Ties to Slavery

MBM ·
Another look at how conservatives frame the Wachovia action. Does anyone have any thoughts about the highlighted argument? National Legal and Policy Center Rips Wachovia Slavery Apology WASHINGTON, June 2 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Peter Flaherty, president of the National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC), criticized Wachovia, the nation's fourth largest bank, for yesterday making an apology for its predecessor banks' links to slavery. The apology accompanied a report that Wachovia commissioned in...
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Re: Mexico's forgotten race steps into spotlight

James Wesley Chester ·
Thanks for another of your continuing diligence in keeping us aware of we are 'positioned' in The African Diaspora. I found the gap created by isolation in the Costa Chica extremely interesting. And...these folks are not of the Underground Railroad experience. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Dying over "good" intentions - Africa and the world listen, please.

Dusty Elbow ·
Water system manager blames drilling for problems By JOHNNY JOHNSON The Daily Sentinel Wednesday, August 30, 2006 As general manager of Lilly Grove Water, Bill LaBoyteaux cannot say with 100-percent certainty that oil and gas companies are responsible for the "very bad off-color water" that has been coming out of his wells, on and off, for the last three years "” all he knows is that it wasn't happening before the drilling rigs set up next to his water wells. Oil and gas experts say they can...
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Re: African Canadians

James Wesley Chester ·
Rt. Hon Lincoln Alexander, first African-Canadian MP in Canada and the first African-Canadian Lt. Governor of Ontario.---via cypress Thanks for the excellent info. I have been impressed Canadians of African ancestry, known and unknown since being made aware a year or two ago. I knew there were such people there, but I did not put them together with the Undreground Railroad, for example. I know. Canada was the ultimate destination of 'Moses', Harriet Tubman. Anyway... I wonder why they call...
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Re: Issues: KATRINA

Kevin41 ·
an article of interest: 'Our Tsunami': Black Leaders Outraged at Lack of Help in Katrina's Aftermath By Carmen Cusido --------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 DiversityInc.com September 02, 2005 Take a look at the people left behind in Mississippi and Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf States on Sunday. As these people search for food and more floating corpses are piling up in flooded New Orleans, black leaders are outraged that many of...
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Re: Does "American" = White?

peopleofcolor ·
Whites depended on the Naturalization Act of 1790, to make all European immigrants eligible for nearly automatic citizenship, with rights above all persons of color. Whites depended on land giveaways like the Homestead Act, and housing subsidies that were essentially white-only for many years, like FHA and VA loans. Even the GI Bill was largely for whites only, and all of these government-sponsored efforts were instrumental in creating the white middle class. But it goes deeper than that.
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Re: To Those Who Oppose Affirmative Action! (READ THIS!)

Michael ·
Funny how a Huey, Kevin41, Marty, Kweli4Real, Popcorn, etc., etc., would concentrate on condemning me for: A. Showing contempt for our own disgraceful elected Black leadership. B. Showing contempt for AA which has yet to benefit me or anyone else in my circle. C. claiming that I'm some "Uncle Tom"..... .........another erroneous contention that neither of these individuals can prove. D. Showing contempt for anyone who does not agree with their viewpoint, however erroneous the viewpoint......
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Re: ROSA PARKS DEAD AT 92

sunnubian ·
Everyone knows that Rosa Parks once refused to give her seat on a city bus in Montgomery, Ala., to a white man, and that that simple action started a revolution as profound as anything that has ever occurred in this nation. That was almost half a century ago "” Dec. 1, 1955. Schoolchildren in Detroit will celebrate that anniversary Monday. But what very few know is that Rosa Parks was not the first black woman to refuse to surrender her seat. Nine months before, a teenager named Claudette...
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Re: What Use Are Black Mayors?

Guest ·
Negrological: Could you explain this segment of the author's statement? Is he saying that THE COC is counter to the interests of BLACK FOLKS? You see - as I just got Noah to detail for me - the major cities of the NORTHEASTERN quadrant of the country (and beyond) were built on the COMMERCE that was contained within them. As much as some of you all love to attack me, the truth is that I may just be ahead of many of you in my analysis. I just don't understand how we can easily prove the...
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Re: Q. Who Financed the African Holocaust?

James Wesley Chester ·
Fine: You live in an area of Ohio that is rich in Underground Railroad history. I recall seeing a piece Public Radio, or C-SPAN on a new museum in Cincinnati. In all your digging, at home and abroad so to speak, have you seen anything concerning the establishment of a distinct ethncity for Americans of unknown African ancestry. As you know, that is my 'pet', my focus. I haven't seen anything, and I'm definitely alert to such things. But I don't dig, per se. PEACE Jim Chester
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Re: Q. Who Financed the African Holocaust?

Fine ·
Originally posted by JWC --Yes, I do. And quiet as it is kept Ali helped to finance this local museum.
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Re: Kwanzaa Took A Hit 3 Years Ago...

Fine ·
Q. Who appointed the scary Nmaginate my personal moderator of politically correct responses to post to the board? A. The ghost of Nmaginate's imagination. Let's face it you are not really trying to exchange intellectual discourse here you have a different mission...right? --------------------------------------- Back on topic: Another shared opinion... Kwanzaa: Symbolism Over Substance Submitted by mweaver on Wed, 2005-12-14 22:07. General Current News Kwanzaa: Symbolism Over Substance from...
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Re: Black Conservatives

Kai ·
Peace.... I do not think that it was the liberalism of the Republican party which led to the abolition of slavery in the South. I believe that it was simple greed that led to the change. Lincoln had Real estate interests, and political interests which tied him to the movement. Quite simply, classical values led to the end of slavery. These classical values include pure capitalism. The supposed shift in ideology was a facade as we all know. In the end it was conservatism not liberalism which...
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Re: Dating a sista/brotha after she/he went white...

Huey ·
Re: Dating a sista/brotha after she/he went white...
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Re: Q. Who Financed the African Holocaust?

Kocolicious ·
How true. This is why this information MUST be kept in our faces as well. I've always said that the "jews" and arabs are brothers. Cuz they both are semites. And come from the womb of the forced concubine during the initial spread of Islam-7th century. And the arabs were known to snatched the male children from the slave women they impregnate and turn these boys into their soldiers. This legacy has been going for years including today with Africa's child soldiers in Rwanda, Sierra Leone,...
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Re: REPARATIONS MOVEMENT IN TROUBLE

Kevin41 ·
Three Banks Targeted by Reparations ActivistsBy Carmen Cusido © 2005 DiversityInc.com December 14, 2005 A slavery-reparations group has launched a boycott against three national banks it alleges have ties to slavery. The boycott is aimed at reducing their student-loan portfolios. The three banks whose predecessors have been linked to slavery declined to comment on the boycott or the pending lawsuit for reparations affecting two of them. However, all said they are actively involved in helping...
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Re: What 'white' muso's get you groovin'?

Fagunwa ·
Cream, Tom Waits, Yes, Paul Simon,Van Morrison,Pink Floyd,Grand Funk Railroad, Anita O'Day, RAge Against the Machine.
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Re: Graham To Undergo Heart Surgery (CNN: 1/23/03)

MBM ·
BREAKING NEWS Sen. Bob Graham to undergo heart surgery, postpones presidential bid Associated Press WASHINGTON - Sen. Bob Graham of Florida said today he will undergo heart surgery in early February, postponing announcement of a bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. Graham told reporters in his office that he had made up his mind to run and was planning to announce his candidacy in Tallahassee, Fla. on Feb. 3. Now, Graham said, he will have surgery to replace a faulty aortic valve...
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Re: Berkeley Club Holds Anti-Affirmative Action Bake Sale

Guest ·
Kweli4Real, this article is just for you :@>: Tim Wise I think it's called 'projection.' When someone subconsciously realizes that a particular trait applies to them, and then attempts to locate that trait in others, so as to alleviate the stigma or self-doubt engendered by the trait in question. It's a well-understood concept of modern psychology, and explains much: like why men who are struggling with their own sexuality are often the most outwardly homophobic. Or the way whites during...
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Re: While Condoleeza Rice, and Clarence Thomas are Called Uncle Toms, or House Negroes.....

Guest ·
Kevin41, EbonyRose, and/or anyone else of similar mindset. "I don't really have a damn thing to say to you but since you like to act like a little pu_ _y and call names.....Don't let me being a professor bother you so much. It is just a part-time job that you seem to make a bigger deal out of then I do....but if that is your thing, just knock yourself out." ....That makes two of us. I could care less as to what you may think of me, and vise versa. Yes you can say what you like and others...
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Re: Word Association Game

ricardomath ·
Fulsom Prison Blues I hear that train a comin', it´s rolling round the bend and I ain´t seen the sunshine since I don´t know when, I´m stuck in Folsom prison, and time keeps draggin´ on but that train keeps a rollin´ on down to San Anton.. When I was just a baby my mama told me. Son, always be a good boy, don´t ever play with guns. But I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die now every time I hear that whistle I hang my head and cry.. I bet there´s rich folks eating in a fancy...
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Re: Black Deaths in Iraq War Exceeds Rate of Vietnam

ricardomath ·
I would be very much opposed to a draft of any form. This is exactly the opposite of what we should be doing. Rep Rangle would be better advised to encourage nonviolent resistance to the war amoung the troops, and amoung the rest of the population. The only way that they will ever stop calling wars is if they have reason to believe that there is a chance that nobody will come. I can say that a warm meal and a soft bed will always be available for anybody at this stop along the underground...
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Re: Mexicans Battle Blacks for jobs in the ATL.

ricardomath ·
Yes, by all means, let's get things straight. I clicked on your link, and all I got was the front page of AA.org. Really, if you are going to make stupid jokes about non-existent threads actually existing, then you really ought to make sure that your links point to actually existing threads. Learn how to form URL's. As it stands, I am assuming that you are referring to either my 5 year old "Blacks in Colombia" thread, or Bill C's 1 year old "Do you stand up for America" thread, since these...
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Re: Mexicans Battle Blacks for jobs in the ATL.

Romulus Burnett ·
How do you catch a deceitful, deceptive liar in a lie? Use the Col u mbo method. Already quoted: Since when does retiring and moving to a poverty-stricken, corrupt, oppressive, starving, third world environment like Colombia supposed to be so great? Wait. I almost forgot. You're a pastey white boy. You'd be looked up to--considered higher up on the hierarchy of color--because that's the mentality of the people in regions like that and the reason why you are so eager to move there--because...
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Re: Mexicans Battle Blacks for jobs in the ATL.

Romulus Burnett ·
Since you're determined to call me ironhorse like that other idiot that's determined to think I'm also billc, I'll just continue to refer to your pastey, beer belly, freakle faced, underbite-having, middle-aged, liver spot-infested, balding self as Dilbert. You haven't reduced anyone to a damn thing. I just love to see you continue to lie about not having made certain comments, then when proven wrong you act like a child with down syndrome by trying to dismiss and marginalize your...
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Re: A white dudes take on repatriations

Kocolicious ·
Originally posted by Xeon What's soooooooo abstract about it? I personally know a lot folks with that SLAVE mentality that could use a couple of dollars. And I know a few who hold that MASSA mentality who need to learn how to be charitable with the nasty dynasty passed down by their slaveowner forefathers. Maybe if they did that, the harshness of slavery and its ramifications will be just as real as the World World Two and holocaust stories that are beat to death on television and the...
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Re: A white dudes take on repatriations

Xeon ·
What's soooooooo abstract about it? I personally know a lot folks with that SLAVE mentality that could use a couple of dollars. And I know a few who hold that MASSA mentality who need to learn how to be charitable with the nasty dynasty passed down by their slaveowner forefathers. Maybe if they did that………just as reparation is just as important to blackfolks to do so. Don't you get it? It's NOT about the money as much as it is about the MESSAGE. What message? That slavery was a horrible and...
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Re: A white dudes take on repatriations

Kocolicious ·
Originally posted by Xeon Apparently not clear enough Nope not anyone! You. This is what you said “ black slaves were like commodities and chattel that had established value.” So even though you didn’t say blacks were not valuable per se...the implication is there. In other words, your words can be easily depicted as saying that they [blacks] were only valuable as commodities and chattle....not as human beings. You wrote this. I didn’t. Wrong my brotha. Although it’s true the Chinese were...
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Re: Who is Black????

IndependentMan ·
MBM, I will have a busy day tomorrow, so here it is. Homer Plessy was an octoroon (7/8 white, 1/8 black) who had purchased a first class rail road ticket. He was sitting in the white railroad car. He was then arrested for being a "colored" man sitting in the white section. The reason why he sued was NOT because he felt that this was racial discrimination against "black" people. The reason why he sued was that he felt that since his skin colour and fcial appearence was white, then he should...
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Re: A white person with a question

shebakoby ·
Come to Canada, y'all, since we never had the slavery up here and all that. Which, IMHO, makes a huuuuuuuge difference in how it impacts ppl's attitudes. Hell, slaves escaped up here thru the "underground railroad". No Jim Crow bullcrap, and I've never heard tell of segregation or separate water fountains ANYWHERE in Canada at any time. "You liberals with your conspiracy theories are starting to sound like your own version of the John Birch Society "-Rush Limbaugh
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Re: A white person with a question

Oshun ·
I see that Shebakoby is not a historian. There was slavery in Canada, however, it became very unprofitable. The Canadian slaves were emancipated on August 1, 1834. The best thing you can do if you make a statement is to back it up. Check out these links about slavery in Canada: Canadian slavery Guelph Museum [URL= http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:AmrJVrHZz-8J:collections.ic.gc.ca/magic/mt40.html+Slavery+in+Canada&hl=en&ie=UTF-8]Early black history in Canada[/URL] "I am a child of...
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Re: Preferring Our Violence Wholesale Race and Destruction in Black and White

shebakoby ·
What I never understood is why ANYBODY, be they cops, judges, city councilmen, what have you, would WASTE time being idiots and racist f***s that seem to have nothing better to do all day than railroad minorities. Do they REALLY have THAT much time on their hands? What the hell is wrooooooong with those people. "You liberals with your conspiracy theories are starting to sound like your own version of the John Birch Society "-Rush Limbaugh
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Re: April 19th

James Wesley Chester ·
Yes. I remember the day. Everyone immediately said it was an Arab/Muslim person who ..., Oops!Wrong event! Yes. I remember the day. Everyone immediately said it was an Arab/Muslim person who .... blew up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. But, no that couldn't be right. That was some disgruntled European Americans throwing a rememberance party for what our government did in Waco. Or was that what the government did at Ruby Ridge? Wait. When was it "O.J." was cruising The 405, or was it...
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Re: Nonviolence in Colombia

ricardomath ·
I wish that I had more time to read up on Colombian history. I do know that Panama was once a part of Colombia. And that US interest in building a canal was a factor in Panama's independence from Colombia. Here's a page from a history of Panama that describes the seperation: "La vida te da sorpresas... Sorpresas te da la vida..., ¡Ay, Dios!" Rubén Blades---Pedro Navaja Plowshares Actions The Nuclear Resister School of the Americas Watch Cauca, Colombia [This message was edited by...
 
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